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Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 11:58am On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just as Jesus told his disciples:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

Today i have brothers and sisters in all the places where Jehovah's Witnesses are throughout the earth and anywhere i get to on this planet as long as JWs are there i have a home waiting for me.

So Jesus is the head of this CULT that's what he promised us! Matthew 10:24-25 smiley
This is what cults tell their members to keep them chained and never taste freedom. An obvious lie
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:58am On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
This is what cults tell their members to keep them chained and never taste freedom. An obvious lie
So Jesus lied shey?
No wonder he told us that you people will call us a CULT:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 11:59am On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just as John the baptist taught people and Jesus changed it so that Jews were mocking them that they keep jumping back and forth in their beliefs! wink
That's why I told you never say never because they will change again
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:01pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
That's why I told you never say never because they will change again
Just as Jesus keep changing the beliefs of his disciples in the first century shey? cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:05pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus lied shey?
No wonder he told us that you people will call us a CULT:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
cheesy
Did Jesus lie to any black person in deeply segregated Jim Crow America that they can go a JW in a white neighborhood and have a home?
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:10pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Oya expatiate! smiley
I already did. The Kingdom of God (Jesus) was physically in their midst. Quite different from when a person has the Kingdom within himself
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:12pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just as Jesus keep changing the beliefs of his disciples in the first century shey? cheesy
Give example where Jesus kept changing who they could worship or not worship
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Did Jesus lie to any black person in deeply segregated Jim Crow America that they can go a JW in a white neighborhood and have a home?
See RACIST claiming believer! cheesy

Peter asked Jesus:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?" Matthew 19:27

Jesus replied:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

So according to Jesus what will assure me that i'm truly one of his blessed friends?

I'll have brothers and sisters everywhere his disciples are because we are ONE in the faith {John 17:22} and love will bound us together {John 13:34-35} that will be the first and foremost sign that i am truly among Jesus' true disciples!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:15pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
I already did. The Kingdom of God (Jesus) was physically in their midst. Quite different from when a person has the Kingdom within himself
So which one is correct, that Jesus in their midst or that God's Kingdom is in people? cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:18pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Give example where Jesus kept changing who they could worship or not worship
God's people never worshiped anyone else except Jehovah the God and father of all.
Jehovah's Witnesses never worshiped Jesus only Jehovah is our God that's why we bear His name!

But when it comes to changing of certain beliefs Jesus surely corrected the beliefs of his disciples!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:20pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
See RACIST claiming believer! cheesy

Peter asked Jesus:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?" Matthew 19:27

Jesus replied:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

So according to Jesus what will assure me that i'm truly one of his blessed friends?

I'll have brothers and sisters everywhere his disciples are because we are ONE in the faith {John 17:22} and love will bound us together {John 13:34-35} that will be the first and foremost sign that i am truly among Jesus' true disciples!
Exactly what I'm telling you - they were telling black JW in Jim Crow America same lie, knowing fully well no white JW will let them in their homes.
That's what cults specialize in - half-truths!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:23pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So which one is correct, that Jesus in their midst or that God's Kingdom is in people? cheesy
Jesus is embodiment of God's Kingdom. If he is physically in your house God's kingdom is in your house. That doesn't mean you have God's Kingdom in you
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:25pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God's people never worshiped anyone else except Jehovah the God and father of all.
Jehovah's Witnesses never worshiped Jesus only Jehovah is our God that's why we bear His name!

But when it comes to changing of certain beliefs Jesus surely corrected the beliefs of his disciples!
Read below again

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:27pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Exactly what I'm telling you - they were telling black JW in Jim Crow America same lie, knowing fully well no white JW will let them in their homes.
That's what cults specialize in - half-truths!
RACIST EXPOSED; cheesy

Our own Jesus (Archangel Michael) works wonders by uniting us throughout the earth that's why i'm telling you that we will never ever raise weapons against our fellow believers no matter what color such a person may be! John 13 :34-35 wink
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:29pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Jesus is embodiment of God's Kingdom. If he is PHYSICALLY in your house God's kingdom is in your house. That doesn't mean you have God's Kingdom in you
Now you have much lies to cover since Jesus is no longer PHYSICALLY on earth is the kingdom of God here now?

Or is anyone having God's Kingdom? cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:30pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Read below again
You've been lied to.

Just quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where Jesus is worshiped and you're done! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:33pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
RACIST EXPOSED; cheesy

Our own Jesus (Archangel Michael) works wonders by uniting us throughout the earth that's why i'm telling you that we will never ever raise weapons against our fellow believers no matter what color such a person may be! John 13 :34-35 wink
Racist what? What has this to do with racist. I'm telling you that's what cults do - they LIE! Go to certain areas and try going nearby JW's home - they'll call the cops on you. Kingdom halls are segregated, blacks with blacks, whites with whites
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:35pm On Jun 26, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Racist what? What has this to do with racist. I'm telling you that's what cults do - they LIE! Go to certain areas and try going nearby JW's home - they'll call the cops on you. Kingdom halls are segregated, blacks with blacks, whites with whites
This one no sabi anything yet him won argue about faith in God! cheesy

See pictures of God's people as in LOVE in action!

Go and ask South Africans what stopped Apartied in that country.

All religions were having their place of worship separately according to their skin color but by the time Jehovah's Witnesses had our assembly Pope John Paul called all world rulers together and all religious leaders telling them that Jehovah's Witnesses have given them a heavy blow by defying the segregation happening in South Africa.

Don't allow stubborness to blind you now ask anyone around you about the love that reigns among Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35 smiley

Archangel Michael is working wonders in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses! Daniel 12:1-3 smiley

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 1:16pm On Jun 26, 2025
Some people can swallow lies like wetin i no know!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that are globally known for going to knock on people's doors without any invitation will now call police to arrest a stranger knocking on their door.

What a childish thought! huh
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DoctorStanley: 1:19pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You've been lied to.

Just quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where Jesus is worshiped and you're done! cheesy
This one doesn't even know history of his cult.
Bible Students (now called JW) worshipped Jesus
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DoctorStanley: 1:31pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This one no sabi anything yet him won argue about faith in God! cheesy

See pictures of God's people as in LOVE in action!

Go and ask South Africans what stopped Apartied in that country.

All religions were having their place of worship separately according to their skin color but by the time Jehovah's Witnesses had our assembly Pope John Paul called all world rulers together and all religious leaders telling them that Jehovah's Witnesses have given them a heavy blow by defying the segregation happening in South Africa.

Don't allow stubborness to blind you now ask anyone around you about the love that reigns among Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35 smiley

Archangel Michael is working wonders in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses! Daniel 12:1-3 smiley
You are soo brainwashed! Do you think JW did not exist durring the worst segregationsvin US and fully participated in it. See below

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 1:33pm On Jun 26, 2025
DoctorStanley:
This one doesn't even know history of his cult. Bible Students (now called JW) worshipped Jesus
You are wrong!
There was a group called International Bible Students Association before the year 1914 so when Jesus came to teach faithful people how to return to true faith only Jehovah's Witnesses welcome him and he began teaching us many things while those who felt there is no need to change their beliefs continued in their error.

So the group Jehovah's Witnesses came as a result of the restructuring that's why God gave us that name in the year 1931

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 1:37pm On Jun 26, 2025
DoctorStanley:
You are soo brainwashed! Do you think JW did not exist durring the worst segregationsvin US and fully participated in it. See below
My guy.

You're like saying the disciples of John the baptist are the same as Christians.

Though some of John's disciples became followers of Jesus but most of them refused to join Jesus because what he taught totally differs from what John taught them and many who even followed him later turned back because they felt he is teaching heresy! John 6:66

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES totally differs from those groups after they have been taught by the invisible king Christ Jesus Jehovah began calling us by another name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DoctorStanley: 1:47pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxIntheHouse2:
You are wrong!
There was a group called International Bible Students Association before the year 1914 so when Jesus came to teach faithful people how to return to true faith only Jehovah's Witnesses welcome him and he began teaching us many things while those who felt there is no need to change their beliefs continued in their error.

So the group Jehovah's Witnesses came as a result of the restructuring that's why God gave us that name in the year 1931

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 smiley
Rutherford was the leader of JW till 1942. Read about him below

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DoctorStanley: 1:53pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxIntheHouse2:
My guy.

You're like saying the disciples of John the baptist are the same as Christians.

Though some of John's disciples became followers of Jesus but most of them refused to join Jesus because what he taught totally differs from what John taught them and many who even followed him later turned back because they felt he is teaching heresy! John 6:66

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES totally differs from those groups after they have been taught by the invisible king Christ Jesus Jehovah began calling us by another name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15
Rutherford was definitely JW wasn't he? Lead till 1942. You've seen his views on race. Till 1999 there was no backs in upper echelons

Oga just find a way to extricate yourself from the cult

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 1:59pm On Jun 26, 2025
DoctorStanley:
Rutherford was the leader of JW till 1942. Read about him below.
I want to believe that you are honest and sincere with your findings so calmly think over what i'm telling you today!

Note that Charles Taze Russell first said God's Kingdom will come and the end of badness in 1914 but later he discovered he was wrong though that year was a significant year in the history of mankind but the end did not come that year.
He died on 31 October 1916 that was the time Rutherford became the next president of the group.

Note that each time a new leader comes some things in the belief system of this group changes.

Have you ever stop to ask why?

Well it's because Jesus the founder of Christianity picked interest in that group since 1914 and gradually teaching them to make changes in their former errors just as he did when he first came to planet earth! Hebrews 13:8

The restructuring has been perfected now that people throughout the world can say about this group:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!
Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..
XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.
freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.
boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.
Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.
Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!
Do you think all these changes for good is just coincidental or the works of those humans you mentioned? John 16:12-13 smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 2:01pm On Jun 26, 2025
DoctorStanley:
Rutherford was definitely JW wasn't he? Lead till 1942. You've seen his views on race. Till 1999 there was no backs in upper echelons. Oga just find a way to extricate yourself from the cult
Jesus Christ used several humans to lead his group till today that's why we are the best thing that has happened to this planet in the 20th century:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!
Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..
XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.
freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.
boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.
Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.
Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DoctorStanley: 2:18pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxIntheHouse2:
Jesus Christ used several humans to lead his group till today that's why we are the best thing that has happened to this planet in the 20th century:
Bros, you are so deluded. I wish I'd be there when you finally come to your senses (as many before you have) and muster the courage to look at JW as it really is NOT as they try to tell you it is. I hope you'd revisit all these stuff you're now writing. You don't have to belong to a brainwashing, suffocating cult to devoutly worship God!

Ciao.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Maximus692(m): 2:28pm On Jun 26, 2025
DoctorStanley:
Bros, you are so deluded. I wish I'd be there when you finally come to your senses (as many before you have) and muster the courage to look at JW as it really is NOT as they try to tell you it is. I hope you'd revisit all these stuff you're now writing. You don't have to belong to a brainwashing, suffocating cult to devoutly worship God! Ciao.
Guy people like you don't have faith that is why you can't see things from the right angle.

There has been many groups claiming Christians before Jehovah's Witnesses and there has been many after Jehovah's Witnesses but none has achieved 1% of what Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved in less than 160 years.

So if you feel it's a cult that's your own cup of coffee after all Jesus has said you people will call his real disciple a CULT! Matthew 10:24-25

But one thing is certain:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

I know you just registered this account to argue but you failed woefully! smiley

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Emusan(m): 8:01pm On Jun 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is there any difference between being God and a God? undecided
You know this yet you quickly brought John 1:1 as “...a god" to prove how Jesus isn't GOD.

So why did you claim Jesus is not GOD but a god according to John 1:1 if there's no different between the two words?
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