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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 6:34pm On Jun 28, 2025
basilico:
Are you aware that Chinese control mining in Congo. DRC is very rich 67% natural forests, 11% arable land and minerals are found in almost 35% of it's 2.35 million sq kilometers.

The conflict are from external forces with Rwanda being a big player fueling it. They want the minerals . There are ethnic groups that were separated by colonial borders during the Scramble for Africa that reside in both countries.

Trump is after cobalt for batteries that's found in plenty .
They had proposed a security guarantee similar to Ukraine.

Trust Trump to demand something big in return.
I know the war is about the control of mineral resources in some area of Congo, reason Rwanda and SA were also involved on opposite end. I read about the offer from Congolese President to Trump if Trump should end the war in his favour. I am not even particular about all these minerals deals (good or bad) and I prefer peace even at the cost of mineral exploitations from US or other places.... But for raumdeuter to tie this to Trump now being a lover of blacks and Africa is a bs taking too far.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:34pm On Jun 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
I was going to post that Justice Kagan already supported the ruling from her speech in 2022 but opposed her own opinion yesterday

Shows many of these judges are not acting in good faith
The democrats are working in unison ie the media, non profits, politicians and judges to derail and hamstring any Trump achievement.
Add Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell “Too Late—Powell is the WORST. A real dummy, who is costing America $Billions!” .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:37pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I know the war is about the control of mineral resources in some area of Congo, reason Rwanda and SA were also involved on opposite end. I read about the offer from Congolese President to Trump if Trump should end the war in his favour. I am not even particular about all these minerals deals (good or bad) and I prefer peace even at the cost of mineral exploitations from US or other places.... But for raumdeuter to tie this to Trump now being a lover of blacks and Africa is a bs taking too far.
Give it to Trump . A peacemaker through strength and a deal broker per excellence. Knows how to use leverage to achieve his plans.
Of course you think he hates black people , I don't think he does .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:42pm On Jun 28, 2025
IjeBos:
Makes no sense.
I think they are pushing an extreme form of state rights where fundamental rights are state/circuit dependent.
I boggles the mind to think that one Federal judge can rule something unconstitutional and leave it in place for others outside that state/circuit.

I understand there may be bad actors using the universal injunctions, but that could be easily remedied by the Supreme court taking the cases quicker.
And who gets injured?
I get the feeling that this Supreme Court doesn't rate people and doesn't seem to care about the costs nor the harms they may have to endure until illegal executive orders are argued.


Just disappointed in where the US is going.
Congress can easily fix this by rewriting the rules of the court system.
But the way it is now, Republicans holding power, it is also broken.
We are getting much closer to an Imperial presidency.
it's sad.. but i think the Democrats are learning.. there will be pay back..

Each and every ammendment would be challenged and let's see how the country ends up..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:42pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I know the war is about the control of mineral resources in some area of Congo, reason Rwanda and SA were also involved on opposite end. I read about the offer from Congolese President to Trump if Trump should end the war in his favour. I am not even particular about all these minerals deals (good or bad) and I prefer peace even at the cost of mineral exploitations from US or other places.... But for ramdeuter to tie this to Trump now being a lover of blacks and Africa is a bs taking too far.
Biden the lover of blacks turned the other side while Africans were getting killed

Where were your effusive tears for Congolese kids like you did for Gaza kids
Are Congo kids inferior or undeserving of your pity compared to Gaza kids
Look in the mirror and see what TDS looks like.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 6:51pm On Jun 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
Trump brokered a peace about a region that Biden did not even remember yet all you have to say is she is worshipping him

Who wont worship someone who stopped the killing of your people. The person who doesnt like black is the one stopping the killing the Biden who loved blacks couldnt even be bothered

The lady whose people on ground getting killed while being forgotten by everyone then Trump came and remembered them

Seek a cure for your TDS
Bidden was not invited and offered a deal that Trump was offered by the Congolese president. Biden couldn't also have interfered at the time cos SA was invited during Biden's time to broker peace and offer help by the Congolese president, it was only recently that SA ran out of Congo after accusing Rwanda of killing her soldiers.

But the bs is not in the deal Trump is trying to cut in Congo, and I have no problem with him brokering peace in Congo at any cost, the bs is not even about the lady praising Trump for brokering peace, I told you if I were in her shoes I will do more for the peace of my people. But the bs is in you slapping it in our faces that trump is not racist because of that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 7:04pm On Jun 28, 2025
basilico:
Give it to Trump . A peacemaker through strength and a deal broker per excellence. Knows how to use leverage to achieve his plans.
Of course you think he hates black people , I don't think he does .
Yeah I know about Trump's greed in cutting deals well, countries presently not in conflicts are also seeing him for who he is and for what he is now portraying US to be, and they are taking note. He is not even diplomatic about it. But that is fine.

Well even if you don't think Trump hates black, just don't tell me he is doing it for the love he has for blacks. He also didn't broker peace in Iran for the love he has for Iran nor is he trying to broker peace in Ukraine because of his love for the Ukrainians. We know his motives. I have no issue with that but let no one tell me the bs that Trump is a lover of blacks because of his intervention in Congo conflict, that is my issue with raumdeuter.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:08pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Bidden was not invited and offered a deal that Trump was offered by the Congolese president. Biden couldn't also have interfered at the time cos SA was invited during Biden's time to broker peace and offer help by the Congolese president, it was only recently that SA ran out of Congo after accusing Rwanda of killing her soldiers.

But the bs is not in the deal Trump is trying to cut in Congo, and I have no problem with him brokering peace in Congo at any cost, the bs is not even about the lady praising Trump for brokering peace, I told you if I were in her shoes I will do more for the peace of my people. But the bs is in you slapping it in our faces that trump is not racist because of that.
Why was Biden not invited? Was the death of Congolese and Rwandan people not enough or he wanted to see more of it

A racist Trump brokered peace that stopped the death of black people but the non racist Biden looked the other way

Classic TDS on display
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:09pm On Jun 28, 2025
bemeruca:
Iran was defeated.
They could not even fly their fighter jets in their own country.
Clown. You don't even know what you are talking about.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:10pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Yeah I know about Trump's greed in cutting deals well, countries presently not in conflicts are also seeing him for who he is and for what he is now portraying US to be, and they are taking note. He is not even diplomatic about it. But that is fine.

Well even if you don't think Trump hates black, just don't tell me he is doing it for the love he has for blacks. He also didn't broker peace in Iran for the love he has for Iran nor is he trying to broker peace in Ukraine because of his love for the Ukrainians. We know his motives. I have no issue with that but let no one tell me the bs that Trump is a lover of blacks because of his intervention in Congo conflict, that is my issue with rumdeuter.
Racist Trump granted clemency to a Black woman Alice Marie Johnson

https://mynbc15.com/newsletter-daily/trump-appoints-alabama-woman-to-clemency-role-after-her-own-pardon-in-2018-during-black-history-event-at-white-house-february-2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:10pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Bidden was not invited and offered a deal that Trump was offered by the Congolese president. Biden couldn't also have interfered at the time cos SA was invited during Biden's time to broker peace and offer help by the Congolese president, it was only recently that SA ran out of Congo after accusing Rwanda of killing her soldiers.

But the bs is not in the deal Trump is trying to cut in Congo, and I have no problem with him brokering peace in Congo at any cost, the bs is not even about the lady praising Trump for brokering peace, I told you if I were in her shoes I will do more for the peace of my people. But the bs is in you slapping it in our faces that trump is not racist because of that.
You're being disingenuous. This is what you said earlier, but that's not what Raumdeuter's post is about.

ObaIgwe1:
lol... That lady is smart. She knows Trump's mumu-button grin Just praise him a bit, tell him everyone loves him, tell him he is better than Biden and he is most qualified for Nobel Peace Prize and Trump will do your wishes even though he hates your face and gut. Someone who cried openly for Iran's 'thank you' is only a baby in an old man's body. Imagine Trump wishing all the journalists covering him are like the lady, who will only praise him and say beautiful things to him grin

The lady is a loyal Congolese and she knows just what to say to get Trump dance to Congo wishes and end the war in Congo.

If I get a chance to get the racist Trump do something for Africa, I will also have to say all that and even more. cheesy
You were out criticizing Trump without understanding what she meant or why she was praising him. This is exactly what TDS Raumdeuter was talking about.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 7:11pm On Jun 28, 2025
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
That’s exactly what it is.

Raum because he’s most likely a citizen and his kids are citizens. So, he thinks he’s in the clear, everyone else be damned. Typical republican.

Basil and Beme (the resident master troll) are just catching cruise because it will never affect them. They don’t live in the US and have no path to citizenship anyway. Obsessed af.

If you notice, no real sensible US resident or citizen who isn’t a perplexing troll supports him. They quietly exited the stage when the ediocy of the president was waxing pro max. Only the trolls are still going hard for him. That’s all you need to know.

IjeBos:
The key that Bemeruca doesn't live in the US is that he supports all this.
Trump is pausing immigration hearings for citizenships and green cards alike. He's also trying to pause visas for more countries.
All non citizen immigrants are probably freaking out at this point, if they have any sense.

These are just people catching cruz and trolling for fun (can tell you the quality of their lives) because it won't touch them.
Some because they are already US citizens and want to burn the ladder they used and some who were never able to step foot in the US and so want others not to as well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 7:13pm On Jun 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
Why was Biden not invited? Was the death of Congolese and Rwandan people not enough or he wanted to see more of it

A racist Trump brokered peace that stopped the death of black people but the non racist Biden looked the other way

Classic TDS on display
Take your medicines 1st, then go back and read what I wrote, this time s l o w l y.

If you still don't get it and still want to ask same question, then direct it to the Congolese President and ask him why he invited SA instead of US during Biden's regime but now offering mouth watering deals to Trump after SA failed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:14pm On Jun 28, 2025
nateevs:
Clown. You don't even know what you are talking about.
So Iranian fighter jets do anything about Israeli Jets flying sorties at will in their airspace day and night?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:19pm On Jun 28, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
Just like I advised Cococandy, get your passport ready and jet out when necessary. Things are only going to get a lot worse and don't even count on the Midterm elections and 2028.
Nne I’m not in the US for now. I’ve been going between US and Europe but I feel I’m going to stay put in Europe for now. Until further notice.

Luckily for me I don’t have to come back every so often to maintain my citizenship.
Let’s see where this craze is going.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:19pm On Jun 28, 2025
basilico:
Bemeruca Raumdeuter
Justice Kagan dissented in SCOTUS decision on district judges and national injunctions.
In 2022 when Joe Biden was president she said.

“It just can’t be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through the normal process.”
She also commented on the practice of "forum shopping," stating:
“You look at something like that and you think, that can’t be right. In the Trump years, people used to go to the Northern District of California, and in the Biden years, they go to Texas.”



Translation.
Some of Her decisions are based on political partisanship first then looking for relevant laws for justification.
this point should be used to counter any arguments about the overreach of district courts. They can serve as a tool to undermine presidential authority.

I don't understand why anyone would have issues with this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 7:22pm On Jun 28, 2025
bemeruca:
You're being disingenuous. This is what you said earlier, but that's not what Raumdeuter's post is about.



You were out criticizing Trump without understanding what she meant or why she was praising him. This is exactly what TDS Raumdeuter was talking about.
You are the one that slow...typical of MAGA.

I didn't condemn Trump's intervention. I only praised the lady for saying the right thing to a praise-loving and egomaniac person like Trump. and I wrote "If I get a chance to get the racist Trump do something for Africa, I will also have to say all that and even more". This is to denounce every attempt by raumdeuter and others like you to make it look like Trump did what he did for the love he has blacks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:33pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Yeah I know about Trump's greed in cutting deals well, countries presently not in conflicts are also seeing him for who he is and for what he is now portraying US to be, and they are taking note. He is not even diplomatic about it. But that is fine.

Well even if you don't think Trump hates black, just don't tell me he is doing it for the love he has for blacks. He also didn't broker peace in Iran for the love he has for Iran nor is he trying to broker peace in Ukraine because of his love for the Ukrainians. We know his motives. I have no issue with that but let no one tell me the bs that Trump is a lover of blacks because of his intervention in Congo conflict, that is my issue with raumdeuter.
Okay but Let's just say he loves himself , flesh and blood. And he also hates to see blood being shed needlessly.
We know blood doesn't know race .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:36pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
You are the one that slow...typical of MAGA.

I didn't condemn Trump's intervention. I only praised the lady for saying the right thing to a praise-loving and egomaniac person like Trump. and I wrote "If I get a chance to get the racist Trump do something for Africa, I will also have to say all that and even more". This is to denounce every attempt by raumdeuter and others like you to make it look like Trump did what he did for the love he has blacks.
Let me help you analyze your comment, as you seem to misunderstand what you are typing here.

ObaIgwe1:
lol... That lady is smart. She knows Trump's mumu-button grin Just praise him a bit, tell him everyone loves him, tell him he is better than Biden and he is most qualified for Nobel Peace Prize and Trump will do your wishes even though he hates your face and gut.
You're saying this because you believe she wants to use Trump. However, they were there signing a peace deal. So, how could she be deceptively trying to make him do her bidding if it’s already completed?

ObaIgwe1:
Imagine Trump wishing all the journalists covering him are like the lady, who will only praise him and say beautiful things to him grin
Your problem is that she is praising him? why wouldn't he wish for people who will treat him nicely? she is not calling him Nazi or lying about him by taking his words out of context as journalist do to him all the time both in the US, UK, and many western nations.

ObaIgwe1:
The lady is a loyal Congolese and she knows just what to say to get Trump dance to Congo wishes and end the war in Congo.

If I get a chance to get the racist Trump do something for Africa, I will also have to say all that and even more. cheesy
If Trump is this gullible, don't you think the Ukrainian president would have done that?

So, explain to US how she is saying all that for Trump to do what has already been done?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXAcD2kj8Qw
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:40pm On Jun 28, 2025
nateevs:
Clown. You don't even know what you are talking about.
They lost all their nuclear plants, 30 Generals, 17 nuclear scientists . The IDF operated hundreds of planes over their airspace , not a single plane was lost. They bombed the igrc and Basij headquarters.
But Iran defeated Israel because their rather precise ballistics missiles that escaped Israel air defences
What a victory.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:41pm On Jun 28, 2025
cococandy:
Nne I’m not in the US for now. I’ve been going between US and Europe but I feel I’m going to stay put in Europe for now. Until further notice.

Luckily for me I don’t have to come back every so often to maintain my citizenship.
Let’s see where this craze is going.
Very good decision o my sister.

I really sympathize with those who don't have this privilege because some people didn't vote for this and they cannot leave. cry
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 7:58pm On Jun 28, 2025
bemeruca:
Let me help you analyze your comment, as you seem to misunderstand what you are typing here.



You're saying this because you believe she wants to use Trump. However, they were there signing a peace deal. So, how could she be deceptively trying to make him do her bidding if it’s already completed?



Your problem is that she is praising him? why wouldn't he wish for people who will treat him nicely? she is not calling him Nazi or lying about him by taking his words out of context as journalist do to him all the time both in the US, UK, and many western nations.



If Trump is this gullible, don't you think the Ukrainian president would have done that?

So, explain to US how she is saying all that for Trump to do what has already been done?
I am not interested in going back and forth with you. I have better things to do. Whatever you understand by my post is fine by me and whatever you believe contrary is your problem.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:03pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I am not interested in going back and forth with you. I have better things to do. Whatever you understand by my post is fine by me and whatever you believe contrary is your problem.
No need to go back and forth. Just answer the questions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:12pm On Jun 28, 2025
basilico:
They lost all their nuclear plants, 30 Generals, 17 nuclear scientists . The IDF operated hundreds of planes over their airspace , not a single plane was lost. They bombed the igrc and Basij headquarters.
But Iran defeated Israel because their rather precise ballistics missiles that escaped Israel air defences
What a victory.
so much victory.
Their leader still in hiding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3XhkmTs4gg
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:29pm On Jun 28, 2025
Cococandy and Ijebos, also happney65, feedthenation, nateevs and other sane people I didn't block. grin

I follow the U.S. Supreme Court and American law and I just remembered that this Supreme Court allowed an illegal law called SB8 the Texas Abortion bounty hunter law remain in effect when Roe v. Wade was still the law of the Land and wasn't overturned as at then.

SB8 was illegal because Roe v Wade was still the law of the Land as at 2021. I listened to the oral arguments and followed up that case as I usually do. These partisan hacks called Justices allowed that illegal law take effect directly contravening Roe because they intended to dismantle Roe.
The Court is doing the same thing with birthright citizenship that case was a precedent for what's happening. The way they ruled in this universal Injunction suit on procedural grounds without tackling the question on birthright citizenship was exactly what they did in SB8. They allowed an illegal law remain in effect so if you think they will not allow an illegal executive order think again. grin

Some naive folks might argue that, Roe is different abortion isn't in the constitution, but citizenship is, lol. It seems you are not familiar with their argument. They didn't say birthright citizenship isn't in the constitution they are telling you that it only applied to children of the enslaved back then. If you don't want to be enslaved no citizenship for you today. cheesy and I am very sure that this ludicrous legal argument has 5 votes on the Supreme Court. The coming months are going to be insane.

The fact that they didn't toss out that
executive order completely tells me all that I need to know on where this is going.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:31pm On Jun 28, 2025
I don't think I have typed this long in a while. But please read it, it would be worth your while. Magnolias and folake4u, maeve7, please you all should read this. Thank you. kiss
AmazonTopaz:
Cococandy and Ijebos, also happney65, feedthenation, nateevs and other sane people I didn't block. grin

I follow the U.S. Supreme Court and American law and I just remembered that this Supreme Court allowed an illegal law called SB8 the Texas Abortion bounty hunter law remain in effect when Roe v. Wade was still the law of the Land and wasn't overturned as at then.

SB8 was illegal because Roe v Wade was still the law of the Land as at 2021. I listened to the oral arguments and followed up that case as I usually do. These partisan hacks called Justices allowed that illegal law take effect directly contravening Roe because they intended to dismantle Roe.
The Court is doing the same thing with birthright citizenship that case was a precedent for what's happening. The way they ruled in this universal Injunction suit on procedural grounds without tackling the question on birthright citizenship was exactly what they did in SB8. They allowed an illegal law remain in effect so if you think they will not allow an illegal executive order think again. grin

Some naive folks might argue that, Roe is different abortion isn't in the constitution, but citizenship is, lol. It seems you are not familiar with their argument. They didn't say birthright citizenship isn't in the constitution they are telling you that it only applied to children of the enslaved back then. If you don't want to be enslaved no citizenship for you today. cheesy and I am very sure that this ludicrous legal argument has 5 votes on the Supreme Court. The coming months are going to be insane.

The fact that they didn't toss out that
executive order completely tells me all that I need to know on where this is going.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:41pm On Jun 28, 2025
Also, if you read Justice Sotomayor's dissent, she is signalling that they plan to end birthright citizenship. She signalled during the Dobbs oral arguments that the Court would end Roe v Wade and she was right.

I hope I am still able to study Law in the USA one day when all this is over. I am still young maybe I would be nursing my last baby by then while pursuing that degree. kiss grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:45pm On Jun 28, 2025
After they are done with birthright citizenship they will move to denaturalization. kiss

They are already testing the waters with that socialist lunatic that will likely become Mayor of New York City.

Democrats better rid the party of the Far-left lunatics. Yikes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:54pm On Jun 28, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
I don't think I have typed this long in a while. But please read it, it would be worth your while. Magnolia and folake4u, maeve7, please you all should read this. Thank you. kiss
Thanks for the mention.

I read two articles yesterday and some opinions but I am not sure I fully grasp it yet. This is why I reserve my comment for now until I have enough information to have an opinion. However, knowing how many judges are Trump’s picks on this court makes me suspicious of every decision they make but I want to give them the benefit of the doubt on each ruling individually.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:38pm On Jun 28, 2025
Someone that waits to understand what’s happening before they get loud and vitriolic. Refreshing and of course not surprising coming from you smiley .

That’s something maga would never do. They don’t even have enough presence of mind not to comment on things they don’t understand.

Yet we share a country with them.

Maeve7:
Thanks for the mention.

I read two articles yesterday and some opinions but I am not sure I fully grasp it yet. This is why I reserve my comment for now until I have enough information to have an opinion ..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:00pm On Jun 28, 2025
Maeve7:
Thanks for the mention.

I read two articles yesterday and some opinions but I am not sure I fully grasp it yet. This is why I reserve my comment for now until I have enough information to have an opinion. However, knowing how many judges are Trump’s picks on this court makes me suspicious of every decision they make but I want to give them the benefit of the doubt on each ruling individually.
It's very important to have an informed opinion.

Anyway, no need wasting your benefit of the doubt they don't deserve it and they are going to disappoint you. wink
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