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Christian American Men - what brand of Christianity?
Sure, he's referring to white evangelicalism.
Are Jewish Americans, Muslims not American enough? Black Americans not in reckoning. And, didn't even think women can hold political office.
This is their dream. If una like continue to carry water for them.

bayelsaowei:
you know this is not totally true.

They’ll make politically motivated moves to denaturalize non supporters of trump.

You know that.


By the time trump is done with the US they’ll never vote for a fool like that again.

Trump won popular vote, 86% of the counties and the electoral college . Democrats don't have a Kennedy Democrat anymore , they replaced them with socialists.

The president thing for you is to give everyone illegal voting rights becauae 99% chance they will vote for anything with a D. I read selfishness, haughtiness and smugness from you.

IjeBos:
1.) Biden was not a progressive President.
2.) Mamdani is not an anti-semite. Being for Palestinian rights, against giving tax deductions to send money to settlers to buy weapons and against genocide doesn't mean you are an anti semite.
3.) I don't think he is against people being wealthy, but people should pay for the services they derive, in fact I think it's patriotic to. In the 1940's the top tax rate was in the 90%. That wasn't socialism then.

@bold, is why ingrates in the Far-left helped Trump win again. I said he was the most progressive President so yes he was progressive because there is no other president since LBJ that has had his progressive records records. Anyway enjoy your retrogressive president currently in power. Since you folks cannot recognize a good thing and are waiting for perfect candidates.

Also, Mandani or whatever his name is is an anti-semite. Using the term "settlers" is from the anti-semite playbook and Palestinians do not own that land. He and many progressives are anti-semites. Whatever genocide happening in Gaza is happening in Sudan and everywhere else but no scrutiny because no Jews, no news.

Rubbish.

bemeruca:
I was expecting the Supreme Court not to side with Trump on birthright citizenship, but he may have a point.

They have yet to rule . Their ruling was on federal judges jurisdiction on injuctions. They have heard arguments already but not made a ruling.
Strictly speaking I don't think at the time that birthright citizenship was granted to every Time Dick and Harry who got born on US soil.
Precedent and judicial rulings since then have interpreted it as a right to all.
If the SCOTUS agree with Trump expect unimaginable protests. With democrats vowing to expand the Supreme Court judge numbers. With judges personal safety at risk.
Some crazed liberal lunatic wanted to assassinate Kavanaugh after Roe Vs Wade. A man for that matter

Oh I get what you’re saying. He might not be progressive for what actually constitutes progressivism but by American standards he’s been the most progressive so far. Particularly grateful for the progressive judges he put in place in lower and middle courts.

People really don’t know how right winged America truly is. Our left wing is maybe center left in other developed countries and the “far left” is really just left wing.

That’s why people who live in the UK and Canada don’t know that when right wingers lie to them about the extremism of America’s extreme left, they are basically talking about people who just want what basic left wing policies they themselves have been benefiting from for decades.

That’s also why I don’t even see Mamdani as far left. His “socialism” is basically social capitalism where the capitalist systems still remain in place with enhanced programs that socially help people stay afloat.

But I guess time will tell.

AmazonTopaz:
@bold, is why ingrates in the Far-left helped Trump win again. I said he was the most progressive President so yes he was progressive because there is no other president since LBJ that has had his progressive records records. Anyway enjoy your retrogressive president currently in power. Since you folks cannot recognize a good thing and are waiting for perfect candidates.

Also, Mandani or whatever his name is is an anti-semite. Using the term "settlers" is from the anti-semite playbook and Palestinians do not own that land. He and many progressives are anti-semites. Whatever genocide happening in Gaza is happening in Sudan and everywhere else but no scrutiny because no Jews, no news.

Rubbish.

Good Morning Americans

Basi and others, Dont forget to buy a Trump perfume today abeg .

Elon Musk is aghast at the Big Beautiful Bill for increasing deficit limit and eliminating subsidies. Trump response.

@realDonaldTrump

Elon Musk knew, long before he so strongly Endorsed me for President, that I was strongly against the EV Mandate. It is ridiculous, and was always a major part of my campaign. Electric cars are fine, but not everyone should be forced to own one. Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history, by far, and without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa. No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE. Perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this? BIG MONEY TO BE SAVED!!!

Trump is too brash responding to every accusation in public.
Well if you are wealthy , you can afford to be arrogant. Like Ijebos generational wealth

happney65:
Good Morning Americans

They said we were fear mongering and Medicaid was never going to be cut.
Imagine the duplicity of character you have to have for you to lie about this, find out you were wrong and still not have the decency to admit you were wrong. Just carrying on like they never said it.

Despicable behavior.

I've always said that some of the people who virulently support children gender transitions may be paedophiles. They want to sexualize young kids and rape them. A 13 your old boy for instance starting to look feminine will unconsciously desire approving glances from the male species.Normal girls going through puberty mostly know it's part of growing up. It's very normal for people making conscious changes to their bodies to want to show off their new looks. There is nothing a body builder loves more than being praised for his chest muscles , biceps , abs etc and will dress conspicuously to show off.
Same to a teenager undergoing transition , attracting the attention of predators if they are not the ones prodding him to transition.

Jk Rowling gets to laugh last. Loudly.

Budaatum. This is one big reason I oppose the Lbgtq movement.

Ibime:
These will all be noticed in the children's uniform and hygiene and intervention should be be made at that point, we do not need to cover up their negligence by feeding their children

Here's a bible verse for you

Jeremiah 31 Vs 29

In those days they shall say no more: ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’

There is nowhere on earth where childrens quality of life is not determined by their parents but in totality, almost all parents try to match society's expectations of school meal and uniform, unless they are on drugs, at which point the children will/should be taken from them anyway. As I dey here, some children are flying private Jet or in private education but not my children. Who will provide equity for my children? We can't equalise everybody.

lol, don't play the scripture with me You ignore the emphasis in the scripture you quoted.

Jeremiah 31 Vs 29

'In those days they shall say no more The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’

You ignored the part that says "people shall no longer say the proverb of parent eating sour grape and children having bad teeth. Ordinarily children will suffer the consequences of their parents, but in a caring society and in the new covenant of God, children are not supposed to inherit the curses upon their parents.

Read it more clearly from Ezekiel 18:1-4: (NIV)

18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:

“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.

I digress.

In the community I grew up before we started building all these gated houses, (not far from Awolowo's community) even though our fingers were never equal, but the community joined hands to raise all the children. At least to have the basics. All the children will not wear the same cloths or play with the same toys, but my community would not allow a child of school age roaming the streets during school hours. All that is changing now I know, but that is where the government can come in and give a helping hand.

Like you said, a good lunch might not cost up to $2, that is not a lot for government to spend on a kid per day compare to billions of $ wasted somewhere else. No one is asking the government to make all children comfortable like Billionaire kids, we are simply asking that they should be given a chance to survive and thrive. That is a cheaper investment compare to the cost of dealing with the mess they will create when they become nuisances to the society. If we fail to spend that money in feeding a needy child now, we will spend more to feed him/her as an adult in a prison (after a lot of damages and atrocities committed against the society) while we continue to blame the parent.

cococandy:
They said we were fear mongering and Medicaid was never going to be cut.
Imagine the duplicity of character you have to have for you to lie about this, find out you were wrong and still not have the decency to admit you were wrong. Just carrying on like they never said it.

Despicable behavior.

Very despicable behavior

ObaIgwe1:
lol, don't play the scripture with me You ignore the emphasis in the scripture you quoted.

Jeremiah 31 Vs 29

'In those days they shall say no more The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’

You ignored the part that says "people shall no longer say the proverb of parent eating sour grape and children having bad teeth. Ordinarily children will suffer the consequences of their parents, but in a caring society and in the new covenant of God, children are not supposed to inherit the curses upon their parents.

Read it more clearly from Ezekiel 18:1-4: (NIV)

18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:

“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.

I digress.

In the community I grew up before we started building all these gated houses, (not far from Awolowo's community) even though our fingers were never equal, but the community joined hands to raise all the children. At least to have the basics. All the children will not wear the same cloths or play with the same toys, but my community would now allow a child of school age roaming the streets during school hours. All that is changing now I know, but that is where the government can come in and give a helping hand.

Like you said, a good lunch might not cost up to $2, that is not a lot for government to spend on a kid per day compare to billions of $ wasted somewhere else. No one is asking the government to make all children comfortable like Billionaire kids, we are simply asking that they should be given a chance to survive and thrive. That is a cheaper investment compare to the cost of dealing with the mess they will create when they become nuisances to the society. If we fail to spend that money in feeding a needy child now, we will spend more to feed him/her as an adult in a prison (after a lot of damages and atrocities committed against the society) while we continue to blame the parent.

I hail you for the scriptures, however the cost of Government feeding the children is not £2 per week, that's the parents cost

Government puts milk. juice, broccoli, carrot, potatoes, pasta, cheese and protein on the childrens table costing about £3 or more per plate per day

So instead of parents spending £2 per week taxpayers are now paying like £15 per week to balance their plate

basilico:
They have yet to rule . Their ruling was on federal judges jurisdiction on injuctions. They have heard arguments already but not made a ruling.
Strictly speaking I don't think at the time that birthright citizenship was granted to every Time Dick and Harry who got born on US soil.
Precedent and judicial rulings since then have interpreted it as a right to all.
If the SCOTUS agree with Trump expect unimaginable protests. With democrats vowing to expand the Supreme Court judge numbers. With judges personal safety at risk.
Some crazed liberal lunatic wanted to assassinate Kavanaugh after Roe Vs Wade. A man for that matter

I'd say 80% against him, 20% for him.
I'd be surprised if the court sides with him.

Ibime:
I hail you for the scriptures, however the cost of Government feeding the children is not £2 per week, that's the parents cost

Government puts milk. juice, broccoli, carrot, potatoes, pasta, cheese and protein on the childrens table costing about £3 or more per plate per day

So instead of parents spending £2 per week taxpayers are now paying like £15 per week to balance their plate

I have no problem if the debate is to cut off the waste and unnecessary luxury around the meal. I also support any good idea that can identify and attend to only those who really need these support. And sincerely Government need to criminalize parents who have no will, time or means to cater for children they give birth to. If I have the power, a lot of parents will be in jail by now including a number that japa and left no plan or means to cater for children they left behind.

AmazonTopaz:
@bold, is why ingrates in the Far-left helped Trump win again. I said he was the most progressive President so yes he was progressive because there is no other president since LBJ that has had his progressive records records. Anyway enjoy your retrogressive president currently in power. Since you folks cannot recognize a good thing and are waiting for perfect candidates.

Also, Mandani or whatever his name is is an anti-semite. Using the term "settlers" is from the anti-semite playbook and Palestinians do not own that land. He and many progressives are anti-semites. Whatever genocide happening in Gaza is happening in Sudan and everywhere else but no scrutiny because no Jews, no news.

Rubbish.

You're using the language of the far right.
They called Biden a socialist far left progressive President, the same thing they called Obama.
I don't think Biden lost because of his policies but because of the prolonged media strategy on the right.
I'm not even sure half the conservatives know what socialism or communism is.
And I'm sure if any Dem would have suggested Social Security or Medicare today, the right would be calling it full blown socialism.

As to settlers, that's what they are, that's what even Israel calls them and I believe they call their movement. They even have Government policies in place to support them like the "Ministry of Settlements and National Mission".
As to who owns the land, I know some guy who lives in Ohio who becomes Jewish and decides to move to Israel doesn't own the land.

What is happening in Gaza is happening with the aid and tacit support of the US. That is the reason why Americans care about it.
Tell me how much money and weapons we give Sudan to kill other people. $0.

But we have to stop using the word anti-semite as a means to stop debate and bludgeon people. Israel is a foreign country. And criticizing a foreign country does not make one hate all people of the Jewish religion. This in itself is a problem with what Israel is. They want to be a Jewish state than want to equate any criticism for their government's policies with criticism of their religion. There are plenty of Jews who criticise Israel's policies like Bernie Sanders.

bemeruca:
I'd say 80% against him, 20% for him.
I'd be surprised if the court sides with him.

I believe they will rule against it. If you look at the context the 14th Amendment was clearly meant for the freed slaves. Doesn't seem to have been for everyone although it does explicitly say so.

The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, during the Reconstruction era following the Civil War. It was a pivotal measure aimed at securing rights for newly freed enslaved people and redefining the relationship between the federal government and the states, particularly in the context of slavery’s abolition and its aftermath.Context Behind the 14th Amendment with Focus on Slavery:Post-Civil War and Abolition of Slavery: The Civil War (1861–1865) ended with the Union’s victory and the passage of the 13th Amendment in December 1865, which abolished slavery and involuntary servitude (except as punishment for a crime). However, the end of slavery left millions of African Americans in a precarious legal and social position. The 14th Amendment was crafted to ensure that the freedoms promised by emancipation were protected and to address the systemic inequalities that persisted.
Black Codes and Continued Oppression : After the Civil War, Southern states enacted Black Codes, restrictive laws designed to control and exploit formerly enslaved people. These laws limited African Americans’ ability to own property, seek employment, move freely, or access courts, effectively recreating conditions akin to slavery. For example, vagrancy laws forced Black individuals into labor contracts under exploitative conditions, and some states barred them from testifying against whites. The 14th Amendment sought to dismantle these discriminatory practices by guaranteeing equal protection and due process under the law.
Civil Rights Act of 1866: As a precursor, Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which declared that all persons born in the U.S. were citizens, regardless of race, and entitled to equal rights in contracts, property, and legal proceedings. This was a direct response to the Black Codes and aimed to secure the rights of freedmen. However, fears that the Act could be repealed or struck down by courts prompted Congress to constitutionalize these protections through the 14th Amendment, ensuring they could not be easily undone.
Political and Social Tensions: The amendment arose amid fierce political battles. President Andrew Johnson, who assumed office after Lincoln’s assassination, advocated a lenient Reconstruction policy, allowing Southern states significant autonomy. This alarmed Radical Republicans in Congress, who sought robust federal intervention to protect African Americans and prevent the South from reinstating slavery-like systems. The 14th Amendment was a tool to enforce federal authority and ensure that the abolition of slavery translated into meaningful rights for freedmen.
Key Provisions with Relevance to Slavery:Citizenship Clause: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This explicitly granted citizenship to formerly enslaved people, overturning the Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) decision, which had denied citizenship to African Americans and declared them property.
Due Process Clause: “Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” This protected freedmen from arbitrary state actions, such as those imposed by Black Codes, ensuring they could not be stripped of their newfound freedoms without legal recourse.
Equal Protection Clause: “Nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” This clause aimed to ensure that states could not discriminate against African Americans, countering laws and practices that sought to maintain racial hierarchies post-slavery.
Other Sections: Section 2 addressed apportionment of congressional representation, reducing a state’s representation if it denied voting rights to male citizens (a partial attempt to secure voting rights for Black men, though enforcement was weak). Section 3 barred former Confederate officials from holding office, targeting those who had supported the slaveholding rebellion. Section 4 ensured that debts incurred to support slavery or the Confederacy were not honored, reinforcing the economic rejection of the slave system.

Ratification and Resistance: The amendment faced significant opposition, especially in the South, where it was seen as a federal overreach and a threat to white supremacy. Congress required Southern states to ratify the 14th Amendment as a condition for readmission to the Union, a process that was contentious and sometimes coerced. By 1868, enough states ratified it, but Southern resistance persisted through violence (e.g., by groups like the Ku Klux Klan) and later Jim Crow laws, which undermined the amendment’s protections for decades.
Slavery’s Legacy and the Amendment’s Limitations: While the 14th Amendment was a landmark in securing rights for formerly enslaved people, its immediate impact was limited. The federal government’s commitment to Reconstruction waned by the 1870s, and the Supreme Court’s narrow interpretations (e.g., Slaughter-House Cases (1873) and Plessy v. Ferguson (1896)) weakened its protections, allowing segregation and discrimination to flourish. Nonetheless, the amendment laid the groundwork for later civil rights advancements, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Brown v. Board of Education (1954), which relied on the Equal Protection Clause to dismantle segregation and advance racial equality.

Additional Details on Slavery’s Role:Economic and Social Disruption: The abolition of slavery upended the South’s economy, which relied heavily on enslaved labor for agriculture, particularly cotton. The 14th Amendment aimed to stabilize this transition by ensuring freedmen could participate as citizens in the economy, though sharecropping and debt peonage often trapped them in exploitative systems.
Freedmen’s Bureau: Established in 1865, the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands worked to support formerly enslaved people with education, land, and legal aid. The 14th Amendment complemented these efforts by providing a constitutional basis for federal intervention to protect freedmen’s rights.
Moral and Ideological Shift: [/b]The amendment reflected a broader ideological battle over the meaning of freedom. Abolitionists and Radical Republicans argued that true emancipation required not just the end of slavery but also equal citizenship and legal protections, which the 14th Amendment sought to codify.

[b]Long-Term Impact:The 14th Amendment transformed the Constitution by prioritizing individual rights and federal authority over state discrimination, directly addressing the legacy of slavery. Its clauses became foundational for 20th-century civil rights litigation, including cases that ended segregation and expanded protections against discrimination. However, the struggle to fully realize its promise for African Americans continued long after 1868, as systemic racism persisted through legal and extralegal means.

bayelsaowei:
democrats need to switch their strategy and play just like the republicans. Probably that’ll help a lot of folks grow more sense. Let them all strip the amendments till America breaks into pieces. No one should have the monopoly of madness or breaking the law .

But they won't and I think Republicans understand that.
They believe in the ideals of the Constitution.
Biden was a perfect example. After the Supreme Court ruling saying Presidents were basically kings, Biden didn't act that way, instead he pushed Dems to overturn that ruling.

basilico:
I don't believe they will role against it. If you look at the context the 14th Amendment was clearly meant for the freed slaves. Doesn't seem to have been for everyone although it does explicitly say so.

We shall see.

IjeBos:
This is who you carry water for.
And this woman has the ear of Trump.
Lol @ the there aren't racists in the US.

You arent the only black person who live in the US, there are other people here who live in other white dominated country

Now ask how come they are not getting arrested every market day like you

bayelsaowei:
you know this is not totally true.

They’ll make politically motivated moves to denaturalize non supporters of trump.

You know that.

By the time trump is done with the US they’ll never vote for a fool like that again.

All these are your projection and speculation, We have already seen Trump rule once and we loved it so much we voted for him again. At this time he is making good of his campaign promises

raumdeuter:
You arent the only black person who live in the US, there are other people here who live in other white dominated country

Now ask how come they are not getting arrested every market day like you

You might want to first understand the difference between detained and arrested. You seem not to.
And every one of my black friends talks to their children about Police interactions, how to manage them and that their parent's "success" won't afford them the same privilege of their white friends.

You live in a world of cognitive dissonance.
A world where one of the President's key supporters thinks dogs eat betterare cleaner than Africans and also in a world where that type of racism doesn't bleed into systems of government like policing.
You're purposefully naive. I just don't understand what agenda it satisfies in your mind.

IjeBos:
You're using the language of the far right.
They called Biden a socialist far left progressive President, the same thing they called Obama

Forgiving student loans, child tax credit, climate executive orders and so on are not progressive right? They are not the campaign promises he made to progressives abi? Biden is regarded as one of the most progressive Presidents in Legislation for decades. It is not a "Far-right" language but facts and there is nothing wrong with it because he had progressive legislation and policies he tackled that made him different from Obama, his judicial nominees and their records also add to the progressive label some experts gave him. Recognizing trans rights is even a progressive idea, something mainstream or blue dog Democrats shy away from. But Biden did and signed executive orders on that issue.

I don't think Biden lost because of his policies but because of the prolonged media strategy on the right.
I'm not even sure half the conservatives know what socialism or communism is.
And I'm sure if any Dem would have suggested Social Security or Medicare today, the right would be calling it full blown socialism

Part of the reason why Biden isn't in office is because progressives decided to become ingrates and failed to tout his legislative record but instead began a purity culture on Biden because of Gaza. They forgot everything because of Gaza whereas their country was going to burn with Orange in power but they forgot all that because of Gaza and were "uncommitted, Jill Stein" voters. They played a part in the National sentiment against Biden which Republicans capitalized on when they started protesting in colleges. They used it to spread Islamophobia and anti-immigration sentiments, which was one of the reasons why Harris lost too. The Leftists player a part in it. They have been doing this nonsense since 2016.

As to settlers, that's what they are, that's what even Israel calls them and I believe they call their movement. They even have Government policies in place to support them like the "Ministry of Settlements and National Mission".
As to who owns the land, I know some guy who lives in Ohio who becomes Jewish and decides to move to Israel doesn't own the land

"Settlers" by Leftists refer to the entirety of Israel and not just the West Bank or East Jerusalem, same way they use the term "Colonizers" and "River to the sea" because they refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist." It's pure anti-Semitism playbook. The Land historical was home to the Kingdoms of Judah and Northern Israel. Palestinians have no claim to that Land because they never exercised sovereignty over it, but instead were always under colonial rule. Colonial masters in anywhere always had administrative and governing control over their colony. Arabs are not indigenous to the region, they are not even indigenous to Saudi Arabia. That said, if everyone had agreed to the 1947 map nobody would be fighting today.

What is happening in Gaza is happening with the aid and tacit support of the US. That is the reason why Americans care about it.
Tell me how much money and weapons we give Sudan to kill other people. $0.

But we have to stop using the word anti-semite as a means to stop debate and bludgeon people. Israel is a foreign country. And criticizing a foreign country does not make one hate all people of the Jewish religion. This in itself is a problem with what Israel is. They want to be a Jewish state than want to equate any criticism for their government's policies with criticism of their religion. There are plenty of Jews who criticise Israel's policies like Bernie Sanders.

Israel would still defend itself without America, When America was on its imperialists campaign to other regions, we didn't see Americans on the street despite their tax dollars being involved in those conquest.

anti-Semitism, rightly applies to anyone who refuses to accept that Israel has a right to exist, refuses to acknowledge it's a country that must defend itself just like any other country would and believes that Israelis are colonizers who are not indigenous to the land. Many rhetorics like "globalize the intifada" "River to the Sea" "Watermelon" etc are all anti Semitic. When you criticize Israel the way you would any other country then you are not an anti-semite however when you use anti-semitic dog whistles and aim to target Jewish people like many critiques do in their rhetoric of the Far-left then indeed they are anti-semites. That there are Jews who criticize Israel doesn't water down that many criticisms are rooted in anti-semitism.

cococandy:
Oh I get what you’re saying. He might not be progressive for what actually constitutes progressivism but by American standards he’s been the most progressive so far. Particularly grateful for the progressive judges he put in place in lower and middle courts

Thank you. @ijebos, this is what I mean. Analysts even used the word progressive to tout some of his policies and legislative record. That's why he is regarded as the most progressive President in decades more progressive than Obama.

People really don’t know how right winged America truly is. Our left wing is maybe center left in other developed countries and the “far left” is really just left wing

My side of the political spectrum is Center-left.

That’s why people who live in the UK and Canada don’t know that when right wingers lie to them about the extremism of America’s extreme left, they are basically talking about people who just want what basic left wing policies they themselves have been benefiting from for decades.

That’s also why I don’t even see Mamdani as far left. His “socialism” is basically social capitalism where the capitalist systems still remain in place with enhanced programs that socially help people stay afloat.

But I guess time will tell.

Democratic Socialism isn't Socialism, Mandani is not a Democratic socialists in that sense. American Leftists are not Democratic socialists they have socialist ideas. They are big critics of Capitalism as a whole.

cococandy:
They said we were fear mongering and Medicaid was never going to be cut.
Imagine the duplicity of character you have to have for you to lie about this, find out you were wrong and still not have the decency to admit you were wrong. Just carrying on like they never said it.

Despicable behavior.

I haven't confirmed but I heard that the Medicaid cuts will begin after the Mid term elections so they can blame Democrats for it. How true is this? I haven't had time to research it online.

IjeBos:
You might want to first understand the difference between detained and arrested. You seem not to.
And every one of my black friends talks to their children about Police interactions, how to manage them and that their parent's "success" won't afford them the same privilege of their white friends.

You live in a world of cognitive dissonance.
A world where one of the President's key supporters thinks dogs eat betterare cleaner than Africans and also in a world where that type of racism doesn't bleed into systems of government like policing.
You're purposefully naive. I just don't understand what agenda it satisfies in your mind.

How many of the people who post here and live outside Nigeria have been detained that frequently.
So why always you. Everyone talks to their kids about police interaction even in Nigeria, If black friends talk to their kids about police interaction, Is it that no one spoke to you about police interactions? Or despite the talks you still get "detained" more than the average

Ibime:
This is a myth propagated by the food bank industry

In low income neighbourhoods, kids are fatter on average. There is no death of sustenance, only death of quality food.

A simple review of benefit payments shows that feeding is the last problem you expect on any benefits budget and any parent sending their child to school without food is negligent

Speaking as a child from lowest income household as a teenager with my mum working as a teaching assistant when we first returned from Nigeria, and my father in Nigeria, I never failed to have Wagon wheels, crisps and sandwich in my lunchbox. That was a single low income household with 5 kids to support, so I'm not buying any lamba about poverty. Even when I moved out of the house at 16, I got a weekend job that paid me £140 per week. From that £140, I paid my own rent, travelled to college everyday, ate well and had savings. People need to stop making excuses while their parents are puffing 20 cigarettes per day.

Unfortunately it's not Govts job to legislate for quality of food. Hunger is well taken care of by any job or benefits system. On an average day if you offer kids vegetables or fruits, they will hardly eat anyway, same as we did in Nigeria. Thankfully kids mostly use excess carbs and sugar for vertical growth rather than horizontal.

Ibime, when I went to Nigeria, I was at a time selling eggs and can coke at the Lagos end of Ibadan expressway. Danfo would stop on my tiny foot while I try to collect 50 kobo, and when I get home some poor woman will be begging ma for food for her 5 kids. I'll let you imagine who's money they sometimes got.

I got one Naira a week for school, which covered transport to and fro for the five days. Monday, I'd spend 20 kobo on transport, and being flush, 20 kobo on rumbling stomach alleviation. Food was not provided at school, and home rid not provide a packed lunch. Breakfast was ogi. On Tuesday, I'd spend 10 kobo on food and 20 on transport, and by Wednesday morning I'd have 30 kobo left. That left me with 10 kobo to get to school that day and the 2 days left in the week, so no food, and no transport money to get home, meaning I got to walk the 5 miles.

My first job after school was at my uncle's sawmill for food and board, till I returned home to UK and worked at Favourite Fried Chicken for £1.10 an hour.

I support school meals for underprivileged kids because its not their fault their parents can't or just don't provide them with a healthy diet. And investing in those kids makes it less likely they'd be a liability on society, and make them valuable tax paying assets.

Our difference in opinion on this issue makes me glad there's democracy. I wouldn't want you to unilaterally impose starvation on underprivileged kids, and I wouldn't want the power to ban hard up or irresponsible parenting.

And note. Free school meals and transport are simply an extension of the benefit system that is directly focused on the kid.

Ibime:
I'm talking free food not free travel

And I'm lumping them together, as you read above.

cococandy:
Amazontopaz.

To an extent I also believe billionaires should not exist simply because of how American billionaires come to be. BUT it’s still nuanced for me. I’m not a blanket no-one-should-ever-have-a-billion-dollars-ever type of person. Is someone who’s a billionaire worth 10 billion dollars the same as someone who’s a billionaire worth 400 billion? Obviously not.

I have always maintained that money shouldn't be in politics. I know money is important in every area of life but what I mean is that, billionaires shouldn't be donating that's why Citizens United remains one of the worst decisions of this Roberts Supreme Court. Billionaire money, influencing policies shouldn't be in government. I would have completely criticized lobbying but I know that lobby can be for good. If I could I would support lobbying for women's rights legislation across the globe so I cannot be against lobbying because it can benefit even the underprivileged. I believe in government regulating Capitalism in the form of labour rights, ethics and practices etc but to end Capitalism to an extent where it stifles ideas and innovation and wants to regulate how billionaires earn money. No way. However, billionaires should be taxed, infact the higher your income the higher your tax, but I believe that everybody should pay tax. The tax the higher income is taxed should be used for government social welfare programs, that's only where government should intervene. Wanting to stifle Capitalists is why you see them influencing government policy in the first place, aside from the fact that many can be evil, corrupt and greedy like the politicians but it doesn't mean that non-billionaires cannot be terrible as these people. The difference between a poor and rich person is access.

HOWEVER, if the said billionaire is paying their fair share of taxes, their workers are well compensated for the value of profits they bring to the company and MOST IMPORTANTLY they are not being propped up by tax payer money , then it’s their money and they have a right to it

This. Their workers should be well compensated, paid that's why labour rights/laws must be strengthened to avoid exploitation, this is where the government must come in.

The Walmart family of billionaires for example makes sure they keep most of their workers under full time hours so they’d not have to provide healthcare for them by law. They also don’t provide paid maternity leave or a livable wage etc. they are notorious for being the largest company in the USA whose workers have to depend on govt aid and food stamps to feed.

How are you raking in billions in profits every year but your staff have to be fed by the govt or they won’t survive. The same govt that you support when they want to take away the subsidized healthcare, housing and food allowance on which your under paid staff depends? Is there any plan in there somewhere for those workers to actually survive or thrive?

I swear if they explain America to an outsider and they fully understand it, then the explanation was probably inadequate because how does one make sense of the above? You don’t want to pay livable wages and you vote to take away the aid your underpaid workers depend? Make it make sense naw.

I have had a problem with American style “billionairism” where the middle class is paying for the billionaires to retain their wealth and we lose more ground each year. Just as we are speaking, another tax bill that will enrich American billionaires while taking healthcare away from tens of millions of Americans has passed preliminary consideration by the House.

We just watched Elon crash out because his projects that have always been funded by the federal govt wasn’t part of the deal this time around. That’s someone worth around $400 billion dollars and he’s mad the person earning 50k (whose taxes are about to go up BTW) is not paying towards his fun project. Never mind that he’s benefiting overall anyhow.

When Americans speak of billionaires negatively it’s for a very good reason.

I didn't even know Walmart was owned by a family, many billionaire American families are evil. Look at the Koch family funding Republicans evil policies, these people should be out of government and that's why Citizens United I hope I get to see it one day, be overturned. Capitalism is good the problem with American Capitalism is greed caused by unregulated capitalism which is as evil as Socialism and Communism.

cococandy:
Yea but America will never be a fully socialist country. I’ve not even seen any full socialist politician to date. Not even Mamdani. We want a mixed society as well but the people this guy is challenging want unregulated capitalism.

Fully agree that billionaires shouldn’t influence govt. that’s what we all want except the right. If less billionaires meddled in the govt, we would honestly have less billionaires overall. Many of them are billionaires today because they’ve been allowed to meddle in govt. less meddling, less billionaires overall.

I really do agree with far leftists being a problem in the movement and my problem with them is their penchant to pick apart and expect perfection from their candidates while the right whole heartedly endorses criminals and rapists with vigor.

Any candidate American Leftists endorse or support I oppose. I will never forget what they did to Hillary, Biden and Harris. Anyway I agree with everything you said.

basilico:

Zohran Mamdani: "Our end goal, seizing the means of production" HOLY F

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— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) June 30, 2025

Bullseye.
Mamdani talks about socialism and seizing the means of production.

I doubt you'll respond to this by asking me how I know whether he means what he said.

I wish you are aware that one "mean of production" is labour. If you were aware, you'd be posting here that Mamdani will seize people and force them to labour as slaves.

Go on. Try thinking a bit with a "maths is racist" reasoning, and you'd see him bringing back chains.