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cococandy:
Yea but America will never be a fully socialist country. I’ve not even seen any full socialist politician to date. Not even Mamdani. We want a mixed society as well but the people this guy is challenging want unregulated capitalism.

Fully agree that billionaires shouldn’t influence govt. that’s what we all want except the right. If less billionaires meddled in the govt, we would honestly have less billionaires overall. Many of them are billionaires today because they’ve been allowed to meddle in govt. less meddling, less billionaires overall.

I really do agree with far leftists being a problem in the movement and my problem with them is their penchant to pick apart and expect perfection from their candidates while the right whole heartedly endorses criminals and rapists with vigor.

Spot on. 💯

AmazonTopaz:
Any candidate American Leftists endorse or support I oppose. I will never forget what they did to Hillary, Biden and Harris. Anyway I agree with everything you said.

What if they are the only chance we have to win?

They didn’t support Kamala because she wasn’t leftist enough for them. If their candidate is too left wing for us as well, our side will remain divided while the republicans whole heartedly get behind every despicable candidate their side endorses. Even the right wing extremists

Ibime:
As I dey here, some children are flying private Jet or in private education but not my children. Who will provide equity for my children? We can't equalise everybody.

This is where you conflate issues.

No one is providing private jet for your children, so you don't want free meals provided to children who need it.

It's as if you think free meals equalise, when in fact they make it likely your own children are not disadvantaged by the rumbling stomach of a hungry child in their class.

When I was a kid, we'd sit at the dining table to eat, then see this poor woman with her 5 kids coming. Quickly, we'd eat all we can, because soon as ma sees them, she'd stop us eating and then redistribute the food between the 10 of us. Damn did we hate the equity!

My siblings and I went on to sponsor that woman's first born to study marine engineering in Ghana, and her second to LASU to become an art teacher.

Those kids father was a builder, and a drunk, so you know where his money went. His wife who sold fish, had a permanent black eye until ma intervened.

No one is equalising or providing equity. Just, opportunity.

Agree with everything else except Mamdani because frankly speaking, as a politician, he’s new to me. I support him now because he opposes the billionaire oligarchy. He hasn’t had a long political career for me to base my judgement of him on.

However I’m not a right winger who glazes politicians just for being in my party so for now I’ll agree to disagree with you until I see further what he does with his career if he becomes mayor…or more. Time will tell.

AmazonTopaz:
Thank you. @ijebos, this is what I mean. Analysts even used the word progressive to tout some of his policies and legislative record. That's why he is regarded as the most progressive President in decades more progressive than Obama.


My side of the political spectrum is Center-left.


Democratic Socialism isn't Socialism, Mandani is not a Democratic socialists in that sense. American Leftists are not Democratic socialists they have socialist ideas. They are big critics of Capitalism as a whole.

armyofone:


The bolded just too funny

But Budaatum- Hungry children can be a distraction in the classroom. Not necessarily rumbling stomach but the emotional aspect of it.

This many fail to note.

Nigeria does not provide free meals or even education to children in the North. So they become alimanjeris and disturb you in the South, and the entire Nigeria benefits from the insecurity they provide.

Just forcing them to receive free education will increase our gdp and decrease the tax we pay for securing ourselves against them. But Naija people would rather build walls to keep them out of our yard, which is stupid if I'm asked me.

raumdeuter:
How many of the people who post here and live outside Nigeria have been detained that frequently.
So why always you. Everyone talks to their kids about police interaction even in Nigeria, If black friends talk to their kids about police interaction, Is it that no one spoke to you about police interactions? Or despite the talks you still get "detained" more than the average

I grew up in the US. You came here as a post grad adult.
The truth is that this whole conversation is a tell about your integration with US blackness.
Only someone who doesn't know many black people or doesn't interact much with black people would write any of the posts you do.
You should probably open your ears and listen and maybe you won't sound so out of touch.

budaatum:
This many fail to note.

Nigeria does not provide free meals or even education to children in the North. So they become alimanjeris and disturb you in the South, and the entire Nigeria benefits from the insecurity they provide.

Just forcing them to receive free education will increase our gdp and decrease the tax we pay for securing ourselves against them. But Naija people would rather build walls to keep them out of our yard, which is stupid if I'm asked me.

It is mind boggling how you guys are missing Ibime point.

bemeruca:
It is mind boggling how you guys are missing Ibime point.

Perhaps if you explain Ibime point, we'd not miss it.

Go on. Give it a go.

AmazonTopaz:
Forgiving student loans, child tax credit, climate executive orders and so on are not progressive right? They are not the campaign promises he made to progressives abi? Biden is regarded as one of the most progressive Presidents in Legislation for decades. It is not a "Far-right" language but facts and there is nothing wrong with it because he had progressive legislation and policies he tackled that made him different from Obama, his judicial nominees and their records also add to the progressive label some experts gave him. Recognizing trans rights is even a progressive idea, something mainstream or blue dog Democrats shy away from. But Biden did and signed executive orders on that issue.

But those aren't all progressive ideas. The problem is the political spectrum has shifted. Republicans have gone so far right and crazy that middle of the road policies seem progressive. And the media doesn't help. What is centrist about Murkowski or Susan Collins? An example is Reagan. If Reagan were alive today he would be considered a RINO and kicked out of the party.
Trans rights is a unique issue as it's a civil rights issue.

AmazonTopaz:
Part of the reason why Biden isn't in office is because progressives decided to become ingrates and failed to tout his legislative record but instead began a purity culture on Biden because of Gaza. They forgot everything because of Gaza whereas their country was going to burn with Orange in power but they forgot all that because of Gaza and were "uncommitted, Jill Stein" voters. They played a part in the National sentiment against Biden which Republicans capitalized on when they started protesting in colleges. They used it to spread Islamophobia and anti-immigration sentiments, which was one of the reasons why Harris lost too. The Leftists player a part in it. They have been doing this nonsense since 2016.

Gaza was a moral failing on Biden's part. The problem is Dems really believe the morality they preach.
To argue the we should be ok with what was going on for expediency isn't the type of politics most Dems want or spend their time organizing for.

AmazonTopaz:
"Settlers" by Leftists refer to the entirety of Israel and not just the West Bank or East Jerusalem, same way they use the term "Colonizers" and "River to the sea" because they refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist." It's pure anti-Semitism playbook. The Land historical was home to the Kingdoms of Judah and Northern Israel. Palestinians have no claim to that Land because they never exercised sovereignty over it, but instead were always under colonial rule. Colonial masters in anywhere always had administrative and governing control over their colony. Arabs are not indigenous to the region, they are not even indigenous to Saudi Arabia. That said, if everyone had agreed to the 1947 map nobody would be fighting today.

I and most Dems I talk to opposed to "settlers" use the term settlers to refer to the actual people who call themselves settlers in Israel who currently forcibly take over Palestinian land because they believe it's their right. It's a whole separate issue from Israel. The view that randos can come take over someone's land and then the Israeli government can annex it and argue they have to defend them is insane. The US even has a policy on settlers.

AmazonTopaz:
Israel would still defend itself without America, When America was on its imperialists campaign to other regions, we didn't see Americans on the street despite their tax dollars being involved in those conquest.

We do. Democrats were against Iraq and protested loudly against it. Dems are also against Russia's imperialism in Ukraine.

AmazonTopaz:
anti-Semitism, rightly applies to anyone who refuses to accept that Israel has a right to exist, refuses to acknowledge it's a country that must defend itself just like any other country would and believes that Israelis are colonizers who are not indigenous to the land. Many rhetorics like "globalize the intifada" "River to the Sea" "Watermelon" etc are all anti Semitic.

I do not believe Israel has a right to take over land occupied by people for thousands of years. I can't find any logical rational for it and I don't see religion as a logical rational.
Maybe you can make a rational argument that doesn't allude to religion.

AmazonTopaz:
When you criticize Israel the way you would any other country then you are not an anti-semite however when you use anti-semitic dog whistles and aim to target Jewish people like many critiques do in their rhetoric of the Far-left then indeed they are anti-semites. That there are Jews who criticize Israel doesn't water down that many criticisms are rooted in anti-semitism.

And here is the rub.
Take the analogous case of Russia. A country using it's imperial might to try to colonize a smaller country. America trashed Russia. They were boycotted. Their citizens maligned, rightfully so. They were boycotted. Restaurants/Stores in the US boycotted. Their ships weren't even allowed in some harbours. They were even kicked out of international sporting events. etc. etc.
Now compare them to Israel. Is anyone had done anything like that to Israel there would be shouts of antisemitism.
No Israel is not treated the same as anyone else. They are treated unequally in that they are treated better and limited from criticism compared to any other country in a similar position.
Those are just facts.

budaatum:
Perhaps if you explain Ibime point, we'd not miss it.

Go on. Give it a go.

Ibime:
That one na for your pocket. You have your own Mamdani in London, Sadiq Khan who introduced it last year to win votes. What's the difference between Year 6 and Year 7. Do children stop growing between that time or do their parents start affording to carry out their basic responsibility? You would think feeding a child for a week cannot be done with £2. Any child whose parents cannot put this together is already in the Care system

The government does a lot for the children already. Maybe the schools should provide meals for the children to take home.

IjeBos:
I grew up in the US. You came here as a post grad adult.
The truth is that this whole conversation is a tell about your integration with US blackness.
Only someone who doesn't know many black people or doesn't interact much with black people would write any of the posts you do.
You should probably open your ears and listen and maybe you won't sound so out of touch.

You are not the only one who grew up in US. Yet you get detained more than the average person.
Self reflect and ask again why you are getting detained

bemeruca:
The government does a lot for the children already. Maybe the schools should provide meals for the children to take home.

Ibime's concern is cost. Children in care cost more than free meals and transport and education combined.

We here in UK already provide meals for children at home, and its not from schools.

Breaking news: The Senate narrowly approved President Trump's massive tax and immigration bill, extending massive tax cuts for wealthy Americans and cutting nearly $1 trillion from Medicaid, SNAP and other programs.

News

budaatum:
Ibime's concern is cost. Children in care cost more than free meals and transport and education combined.

We here in UK already provide meals for children at home, and it's not from schools.

He has broken down the cost to feed a kid in a week. Any parent who cannot meet that obligation should have their kids taken away. It's not everything the government will do.

The Senate pass the BBB

raumdeuter:
You are not the only one who grew up in US. Yet you get detained more than the average person.
Self reflect and ask again why you are getting detained

When you grow up in the US and didn't just JAPA Nigeria as an adult, maybe then your experience/thoughts as to growing up black in the US might be valid.
Until then, keep capping for the likes of racist Laura Loomer who believe Dogs are cleaner than Africans.

budaatum:
Ibime's concern is cost. Children in care cost more than free meals and transport and education combined.

We here in UK already provide meals for children at home, and its not from schools.

To stop 2% of children from eating £2 per week sandwiches doesn't mean you feed 100% of children £15 per week balanced meals

That's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer and part of the reason we keep running massive deficits in the West

bemeruca:
He has broken down the cost to feed a kid in a week. Any parent who cannot meet that obligation should have their kids taken away. It's not everything the government will do.

I do not subscribe to his breakdown, and nor am I asking the government to do everything. Or do you not recall you railing against equity for your kids in maths, while I insisted on offering my kids superiority?

Equity is insisting your kids sit in lessons I give my kids, or insisting I teach my kids only to the standard rubbish parents achieve with theirs. Or insisting my kids share their caviar with your kids who have only chips and beans, or Ibime's kids getting to fly in private jets rich kids fly in.

An extension would be you insisting your kids inherit Bezos wealth, which is what you'd likely claim we are fighting for in your maths is racist logic.

As I have said, a means test for a license before you get pregnant. Barring that, we won't let your kids starve because you are a lousy parent.

Ibime:
To stop 2% of children from eating £2 per week sandwiches doesn't mean you feed 100% of children £15 per week balanced meals

That's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer and part of the reason we keep running massive deficits in the West

£2 per week sandwich (I'm certain you mean per day), is not sufficient food for a kid! And, if you feed your child sandwiches every day, it will cost me more providing health care due to their malnutrition.

As for deficits, the UK government spends about £1.4 billion a year on free school meals in England, and will spend £59.8 billion on defence in 2025/26. But I'm certain you are against that too, though do correct me if I'm wrong.

To the mentions, I will respond to your messages later nor vex.

I just dropped by to talk about denaturalization.

Cococandy, they want to denaturalise people oo. And we know it's not just going to be criminals.

Wallahi, American voters are idiots.

budaatum:
I do not subscribe to his breakdown, and nor am I asking the government to do everything. Or do you not recall you railing against equity for your kids in maths, while I insisted on offering my kids superiority?

Equity is insisting your kids sit in lessons I give my kids, or insisting I teach my kids only to the standard rubbish parents achieve with theirs. Or insisting my kids share their caviar with your kids who have only chips and beans, or Ibime's kids getting to fly in private jets rich kids fly in.

An extension would be you insisting your kids inherit Bezos wealth, which is what you'd likely claim we are fighting for in your maths is racist logic.

As I have said, a means test for a license before you get pregnant. Barring that, we won't let your kids starve because you are a lousy parent.

If pro-life advocates say not to get pregnant, you'll respond with "my body, my choice."

You are saying they should be stopped from getting pregnant.
Why not adhere to the slogan "My body, my choice" and allow them to make the decision to get pregnant and then choose to have an abortion?

Stay on topic, this your side missions on maths, bezos no they relevant here.

budaatum:
£2 per week sandwich (I'm certain you mean per day), is not sufficient food for a kid! And, if you feed your child sandwiches every day, it will cost me more providing health care due to their malnutrition.

As for deficits, the UK government spends about £1.4 billion a year on free school meals in England, and will spend £59.8 billion on defence in 2025/26. But I'm certain you are against that too, though do correct me if I'm wrong.

The UK Government does not give free school meals past the age of 6. That only applies to Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. Add Year 3 to 6 and your £1.4 bln becomes circa £3.5 bln or 4% of UK Govt budget pre covid

Ibime:
The UK Government does not give free school meals past the age of 6. That only applies to Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. Add Year 3 to 6 and your £1.4 bln becomes circa £3.5 bln or 4% of UK Govt budget pre covid.

The UK government's budget for the financial year 2025/26 is expected to be around £1,335 billion, so 3.5b can not be 4%. But left to me, the UK government will be forced to spend 5%. And that's why I'm not the school meals minister or chancellor.

Children whose families receive certain qualifying benefits or have a low household income receive free school meals past Reception, Year 1 and Year 2.

The benefits of introducing free school meals have long been proven. Children who eat healthy, free school meals have lower obesity rates, better academic performance and behaviour and improved lifetime productivity.

New research shows they also deliver significant economic benefits - for every £1 invested in providing free school meals to children receiving Universal Credit, £1.38 would be returned.

https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/expanding-free-school-meals-would-generate-ps413-billion-economy

budaatum:
The UK government's budget for the financial year 2025/26 is expected to be around £1,335 billion, so 3.5b can not be 4%. But left to me, the UK government will be forced to spend 5%. And that's why I'm not the school meals minister or chancellor.

Pre covid UK budget was around £800bln, that's why I wrote pre covid which were normal spending conditions and not the bloatedness COVID introduced which politicians want to turn to the new normal

Imagine spending £1 in every £25 to feed some brats whose parents already feed them

bemeruca:
If pro-life advocates say not to get pregnant, you'll respond with "my body, my choice."

You are saying they should be stopped from getting pregnant.
Why not adhere to the slogan "My body, my choice" and allow them to make the decision to get pregnant and then choose to have an abortion?

Stay on topic, this your side missions on maths, bezos no they relevant here.

Shows how complicated things can be, don't it.

If you get pregnant and decide to abort because you can't afford to feed your child or for whatever reason, that's your choice and I support you.

If you get pregnant and decide to keep your child despite not being able to afford to feed it, I want society to feed your child because it is not your child's choice to be born by an irresponsible parent.

Now, if left to me, you shouldn't even be allowed to fuq if you can't feed a child 3 meals a day, and cloth it and educate it properly, but thankfully, no one made buda God.

Unfortunately for Elon his alliances are with the very far right so he can't present himself as a middle candidate

Like I said from the start, we would judge Trump on the deficit. Trump being a populist can only expand the deficit

Trump is the only conservative I know that dashes people free money just so they can hail him
I remember the case of $600 stimulus checks when he was shouting that they should increase it to $1.2k for everyone. Real conservatives were turning in their grave.

Ibime:
Imagine spending £1 in every £25 to feed some brats whose parents already feed them.

If their parents could feed them we wouldn't be advocating free school meals, and would be arguing for free university education instead, because that would further increase the tax they end up paying and increase gdp too. We wouldn't however pay for them to get degrees in golf course design, since we are paying for their education.

We only provide free school meals because we see their kids are malnourished and we don't want them ending up brats.

Ibime:
Unfortunately for Elon his alliances are with the very far right so he can't present himself as a middle candidate

Like I said from the start, we would judge Trump on the deficit. Trump being a populist can only expand the deficit

Trump is the only conservative I know that dashes people free money just so they can hail him
I remember the case of $600 stimulus checks when he was shouting that they should increase it to $1.2k for everyone. Real conservatives were turning in their grave.

Dump is giving free sandwiches to everyone, and three course meals to the rich, lol, and most "Real conservatives" voted for it today.

I hear its because they are afraid of him primarying them, but I hope they are primaried by their constituents.

AmazonTopaz:
To the mentions, I will respond to your messages later nor vex.

I just dropped by to talk about denaturalization.

Cococandy, they want to denaturalise people oo. And we know it's not just going to be criminals.

Wallahi, American voters are idiots.

especially legal immigrants who think Trump is a normal human being. Those immigrants are fools for voting for trump.