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MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you don't have any idea about when Yahweh was born neither when earth was formed shey?

Thanks for your time!

Oh the earth is not born again(pun intended). Now it's formed? 🤣

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you help me with information on the date YHWH was born?

we need to observe his birthday

fuckJones:
we need to observe his birthday

OK!

fuckJones:
If in heaven we will be happy forever, why didn't God create us directly in heaven?

In Psalms 115:16 says “As for the heavens, they belong to God, but the earth he has given to the sons of man.” So God created us to live on the earth.
In Psalms 37:10–1+29 says “the wicked will be gone but the righteous will live on the earth forever in an abundance of peace.” That was God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden. God’s purpose hasn’t changed. That’s why he gave his son to die for us. John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son for those who believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Everlasting life right here on earth. In Ecclesiastes 1:4 says “A generation is going, and a generation is coming, but the earth remains forever.”

What is the hype of heaven?

When thinking of what heaven is like may conjure some thoughts about clouds, harps, streets of gold, a nice house. All while worshiping one supreme being.

If I were completely honest, I too have thought of things I’d rather do than spend an eternity in Heaven. What about traveling around the globe visiting destination spots and the wonders of this world? This sound like an option that I personally would prefer.

After all, humanity was created to rule over this earth and everything in it.

The Earth | To harvest its contents, to rule and subdue it.
the land
the sky
the sea
every creature
that flies in the air
swims in the sea
walks/crawls/creeps on the earth
Everything that has breath
Every plant that grows
So why Heaven? Why is the end-game to take humanity out of Earth and place humanity in God’s space?

why do you want to go to heaven?

As Spirits, the Saints will be in heaven.

“We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” — 2 Corinthians 5:8

But during the earthly resurrection, they will return to their bodies to inhabit this earth again. Rev 20

4 And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years."

tctrills:
A few things here, no verse in the bible says that God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden.
And by that logic, you are calling God a failure because he was unable to achieve his plan.

You are wrong Mr, God original plan for man is to stayed on earth and take care of the earth according to the bible

fuckJones:
You are wrong Mr, God original plan for man is to stayed on earth and take care of the earth according to the bible

And Revelation shows that man will always stay on the earth even though there is a new heaven. So no one is going to heaven but rather we are going to a new heaven and earth which replaces this present one.

tctrills:
A few things here, no verse in the bible says that God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden.
And by that logic, you are calling God a failure because he was unable to achieve his plan.

Did you not read the word "lest you die"? Does that word not tell you that if they had never eaten the fruit they would have lived forever?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not read the word "lest you die"? Does that word not tell you that if they had never eaten the fruit they would have lived forever?

You are right if they had not eaten the fruit, the would have lived forever. Also, if God had not created the fruit and placed it in the garden, they would have lived forever.
No good parent will place what will end up hurting their kids just right next to the kids. And God, being the greatest parent ever knew and expected Adam and Eve to eat the fruit despite Him telling them the consequences. It was clearly part of His plan, not to hurt the human race but to bless us with salvation through His Son Jesus Christ

fuckJones:
You are wrong Mr, God original plan for man is to stayed on earth and take care of the earth according to the bible

Actually no.
The bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the earth. This shows that the original plan even before the world was created was for Jesus Christ to come and die for our sins. This wouldn't have been necessary if Adam and Eve had not eaten the fruit.

tctrills:
You are right if they had not eaten the fruit, the would have lived forever. Also, if God had not created the fruit and placed it in the garden, they would have lived forever.
No good parent will place what will end up hurting their kids just right next to the kids.

You do not want to go to helfaya, yet you say this.

That aside, right next to your babies are gas burners, knives, forks, electric wires, freezers, glasses and other dangerous, stuff. Even you keep dangerous animals like dogs,cats, snakes yet those babies grew up from babyhood to adulthood, going on to make their own homes for another set of babies to live in.

Not to talk of your adult relations whom you bring from your villages to live with you in the city where they too finally left to their own houses.

So, clearly you have proven God right that it is very possible to live with dangerous items and not be harmed.

And anyway this is not the topic so stop trying to CHANGE POST!

And thank God you have admitted that they would have lived forever if they had not disobeyed, which is the point.

tctrills:
Actually no.
The bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the earth. This shows that the original plan even before the world was created was for Jesus Christ to come and die for our sins. This wouldn't have been necessary if Adam and Eve had not eaten the fruit.

Mr twister. Always twisting the bible.

Before Jesus came, was it not truly the unblemished lamb and doves that was the original plan that God laid down for them to be used to save mankind?

Kai, you be everlasting Sathan pikin and you can never change just like him. Which means that 2 of you will have the same end

tctrills:
Actually no.
The bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the earth. This shows that the original plan even before the world was created was for Jesus Christ to come and die for our sins. This wouldn't have been necessary if Adam and Eve had not eaten the fruit.

Please can you quote the highlighted in the Bible?😟

Dtruthspeaker:
You do not want to go to helfaya, yet you say this.

That aside, right next to your babies are gas burners, knives, forks, electric wires, freezers, glasses and other dangerous, stuff. Even you keep dangerous animals like dogs,cats, snakes yet those babies grew up from babyhood to adulthood, going on to make their own homes for another set of babies to live in.

Not to talk of your adult relations whom you bring from your villages to live with you in the city where they too finally left to their own houses.

So, clearly you have proven God right that it is very possible to live with dangerous items and not be harmed.

And anyway this is not the topic so stop trying to CHANGE POST!

And thank God you have admitted that they would have lived forever if they had not disobeyed, which is the point.

So you put dangerous stuff around your babies. Wow

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote the highlighted in the Bible?😟

I just did Revelation 13:8.
You guys should stop asking questions like kids at this stage, you should know how to find verses in your bible.

tctrills:
Your problem is that you don't read your bible, you only rely on 2 to 3 memory verses.
Now explain this verse below.
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

What do you understand "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Who or what is "from the foundation of the world"?

A Is it the lamb?
B Or the slaying?
C Or the book of life?
D Or all that dwell upon the earth?

Revelations is about the beginning of the world to the end so that verse is talking about the end of "all that dwell upon the earth from the foundation of the world" as it clearly said at the beginning of the verse.

Dtruthspeaker:
Who or what is "from the foundation of the world"?

A Is it the lamb?
B Or the slaying?
C Or the book of life?
D Or all that dwell upon the earth?

Revelations is about the beginning of the world to the end so that verse is taking about shows that it about "all that dwell upon the earth from the foundation of the world" as it clearly said at the beginning of the verse.

Please read and answer your question. I believe you have at least a JSS 3 education so you shouldnt have any problem answering your question. You don need me to teach you every thing.
But to guide you, let me give you hints.
1 Peter 1.20
2 Timothy 1:9
You are welcome.

tctrills:
I just did Revelation 13:8.
You guys should stop asking questions like kids at this stage, you should know how to find verses in your bible.

And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it. From the founding of the world, not one of their names has been written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered. NWT

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All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. NIV‬


Everyone living on earth would worship the beast. These are all the people since the beginning of the world whose names are not written in the Lamb’s book of life. The Lamb is the one who was killed. ERV



And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. KJV

Do you think what this place is saying is that God already killed Jesus before Adam and Eve committed sin?
Because according to the Bible it was the sin Adam and Eve committed that warrants the sacrifice Jesus made!😟

Dtruthspeaker:
See Ësù changing post to Peter and Timothy since he cannot answer Revelations 13:8.

Instead of you say that your head could not process the whole information arising from the leading questions and analysis because it points out that you are talking rubbish, you decided to change post and return the exam question to me.

Even at that you are still a failure else you would have seen that verse 19 of your 1 Peter 20 still Said "as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:" which was even placed first

But, since you don't read, in case you have passed common entrance then read

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world but was manifest in these last times for you,

And where this verses should have reminded you that they were affirming and confirming John 1, but in your blindness as a result of being a son of Sathan, you cannot see it especially as none of them say that from the foundation of the world Jesus was to die.

In all of the verses, the phrase from the foundation of the world is always separate but as a child of Sathan, you can never see it.

And this is even with the word "but was manifest in these last times for you", in your Ësù mind last means original.

Oya find another verse so that I will be breaking them down and teaching you like you a toddler learning A is for Apple 🍎. Ah for Apple 🍎

1 Peter 1. 19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13.8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Read and stop making noise. Even before the world was created, it was decided that Christ was going to die for us.

MaxInDHouse:
And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it. From the founding of the world, not one of their names has been written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered. NWT

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All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. NIV‬


Everyone living on earth would worship the beast. These are all the people since the beginning of the world whose names are not written in the Lamb’s book of life. The Lamb is the one who was killed. ERV



And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. KJV

Do you think what this place is saying is that God already killed Jesus before Adam and Eve committed sin?
Because according to the Bible it was the sin Adam and Eve committed that warrants the sacrifice Jesus made!😟

It teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was God's original plan from the foundation of the world. Hence, God clearly knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, and He already made provision for that even before they came to earth.
Has this answered your question?

tctrills:
1 Peter 1. 19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13.8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Read and stop making noise. Even before the world was created, it was decided that Christ was going to die for us.

Repeating yourself proves you have No Thing.

I have pointed out the issues in Revelations 13: 8, and you could not answer, so you ran to 1 Peter 20, and I showed you that 1 Peter 19 showed you that you are wrong as that phrase is always separate from the silly thing you think.

None of the verses support it and your thinking is fuelled by your wishes and by your pastors constant restatement of error.

The phrase only seeks to remind us of John 1.

Dtruthspeaker:
Repeating yourself proves you have No Thing.

I have pointed out the issues in Revelations 13: 8, and you could not answer, so you ran to 1 Peter 20, and I showed you that 1 Peter 19 showed you that you are wrong as that phrase is always separate from the silly thing you think.
What exactly is your point. Do you disagree with the bible that Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?
None of the verses support it and your thinking is fuelled by your wishes and by your pastors constant restatement of error.

The phrase only seeks to remind us of John 1.

Oga wait oh, you at least went to school.
Don't all these verses teach you that Christ's mission is much older than Adam and Eve? Can you understand that the sacrifice of Christ is the original plan?
Haba, if you can't read or understand, how can I help you sir.

tctrills:
It teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was God's original plan from the foundation of the world. Hence, God clearly knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, and He already made provision for that even before they came to earth.
Has this answered your question?

The highlighted is what i disagree with but if your audience is satisfied there is no need going back and forth with you on the matter that's your own opinion!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i disagree with but if your audience is satisfied there is no need going back and forth with you on the matter that's your own opinion!

You are free to disagree with the word of God. But did you not just read that Christ was choosen to save us even before the foundation of the earth? So why fight with the word of God
I only speak the written word of God not my opinion

tctrills:
You are free to disagree with the word of God. But did you not just read that Christ was choosen to save us even before the foundation of the earth? So why fight with the word of God
I only speak the written word of God not my opinion

You don't have to worry because even if i show you the truth it has always been your way to argue on and on.

There is a difference between the earth and the world.

So foundation of the world is not the same thing as foundation of the earth!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
You don't have to worry because even if i show you the truth it has always been your way to argue on and on.

There is a difference between the earth and the world.

So foundation of the world is not the same thing as foundation of the earth!🙂

This is why I love you. You have an incredible ability to say crazy things.
So tell me, when was the foundation of the world made?
You are about to hook yourself.

tctrills:
This is why I love you. You have an incredible ability to say crazy things.
So tell me, when was the foundation of the world made?
You are about to hook yourself.

Ọmọ continue with your audience after all you too need to feel like a teacher so don't let me pour sand for your gari!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ continue with your audience after all you too need to feel like a teacher so don't let me pour sand for your gari!🙂

Lol, your logic always fails. The pattern always repeats. We have gotten so used to you and your system. But its ok bro have a great day