₦airaland Forum

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

Oh now u know? Do u remember how Atiku abandon PDP and ran to Dubai after the 2019 election while Wike was the one running the affairs of the party. They called this Atiku to come back so they can build the party ahead of 2023 but Atiku ignored their calls, that was when Wike took over the affairs of the party, spending his state Money on the party with the intention of running for presidency in 2023, only for until 2022 Atiku ran back to Nigeria to prepare for presidential primary. Atiku is not a true leader, know this and know truth.

JASONjnr:
But Atiku wanted to eat what Wike cooked when he left PDP for APC leaving PDP in shambles and Wike stayed back build on the party....when Atiku's ambition wasn't feasible he ran back and ridiculed the people who held the party down.

You should be ready to take what you dash out...

Again, APC has a southerner as a president and the coalition members are all presidential candidates.
.with strong willed mind to become the president.

If Obi steps down, he will never amount to something serious to his movement anymore.....

Aamechi will agree to step down for a VP position and Atiku doesn't want anything less......

Definitely, Obi will lower the momentum of the coalition if he decides to leave and return to Labour party.

He not the momentum . It's the North that it Decamping Right left centre to ADC the christian North this time will not waste vote on Obi I assure you there Leaders are in Boss mustapha ,baba chir , David Mark and more .
Obi will Slipt southern votes
While North will have only 1 candidate Atiku

Demurray:
Atiku should support Obi? At what age? If Obi actually win the general elections, what gave you the assurance that Obi will do just 4 years and pave way for Atiku?

This country has finish kpatakpate to be candid, so there are no other people with proven track records to fight for the presidency other than the old crop of politicians who have in one way or the other milked the country

Thanks for your response.
However I will not be able to answer your question as you have missed the point of the issue raised. Our point of emphasis differs hence I can't take part in this debate.
Good morning

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

but your guy is not marketable to Nigerians . Dats all i can type

Educationalserv:
He not the momentum . It's the North that it Decamping Right left centre to ADC the christian North this time will not waste vote on Obi I assure you there Leaders are in Boss mustapha ,baba chir , David Mark and more .
Obi will Slipt southern votes
While North will have only 1 candidate Atiku

The north can not have one candidate to vote for.

The north understand what zoning is all about.

They respect it and will never go against it. Tinubu respected Buhari and never contested against him even when Buhari promised to do just a term.

I promise you that the North will be divided......

Obi is unstable. His people wants him to officially declare his stands and they will reject his ambition.

If Obi settle for a vice position, he will lose all his relevance in politics.

JASONjnr:
The north can not have one candidate to vote for.

The north understand what zoning is all about.

They respect it and will never go against it. Tinubu respected Buhari and never contested against him even when Buhari promised to do just a term.

I promise you that the North will be divided......

Obi is unstable. His people wants him to officially declare his stands and they will reject his ambition.

If Obi settle for a vice position, he will lose all his relevance in politics.

North in APC will Not stand against Tinibu but North in ADC will stand the North have only one Candidate which is ATIKU ! He will gather all Tinibu Muslim Muslim Votes + his Former votes

I said it in 2023 first Obi was working for Tinubu and APC so
It checks out
Even the online Obidient Movement is a creation of The APC propanganda Machine
Nigerians are so stupid and gullible

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

You must be living in a dream world 📌 what ground work is Atiku doing? Shearing dollar's? U think obi is Dia to clap? U sure have not learnt anything from 2023 Nigerian are tired of oligarchy 📌 the moment you give the ticket to Atiku just no that history will repeat itself no two way about it📌 this is not capping 🧢

BlessedGift:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pc6dxAWF14


The ADC has said it has no preferred or favourite presidential aspirant but has set out to first put out a platform that would be attractive and acceptable to majority of Nigerians.

“We are doing this because we do not want this great ship called Nigeria to sink because if we do not rise up, and now, they will sink all of us.

“I don’t own this party more than any of our members and I urge all members to prepare to show Nigerians that ADC is a different party," the interim Chairman, David Mark has said.

Make Obi stay for ADC if he wan stay. Where e wan go? No wonder why we keep saying that Obi may eventually be sponsored by Tinubu, who knows. Trust politicians at your perils.

Educationalserv:
North in APC will Not stand against Tinibu but North in ADC will stand the North have only one Candidate which is ATIKU ! He will gather all Tinibu Muslim Muslim Votes + his Former votes

Let's wait and see.....

Northerners are not loyal to party but to history and recognition of favors.

Jaylord12:
If Atiku will not respect other region then let Tinubu a southern continue

This is not about Atiku, this is about removing Tinubu from power. Nigerians mean business this time around, and it’s not business as usual. The chicks have come home to roost.

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

Simple truth is that Eeebowes lack political discipline because of their emotional nature

Political discipline entails patience , endurance and TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for your choices

Example

In 1979 . There were 19 states each with 5 senators

NPN Shagari won 7 states
UPN Awolowo won 5 States
NPP ZIk won 3 state
PRP Aminu Kano won 2 states
GNPP Waziri won 2 states

At the National Assembly NPN did not have Majority

What did Zik do? He compromised went into alliance with NPN and his party got the Speaker of the House of reps and some juicy positions

What did Awo do . He did not compromise
And Yoruba were frozen out of the so called juicy positions

Instead his party UPN focused on development in the states in controlled and forgot about the Federal Government positions

Again we saw that same level of political discipline with Tinubu when Obasanjo used the Federal might to capture the whole of the SW except Lagos

It is from Lagos that Tinubu regrouped to become president today

Note i am not talking about his governance as president but political sagacity and patience for the long term purpose of capturing power

Now we must ask why is Obi jumping up and down

Honestly he does not need Atiku. What Obi should have done to show competence is to take charge or the Labour party and build on his success from the last election. But he is showing signs of Impostor syndrome. A man who finds himself at the high table and deep down believes he does not belong
He needs patience and political organization. HAs he ever sat down with his team to analyze why he did not win the last election and what he can do to improve? Instead of propagating the fiction that he won?

NO!!!

WHY? He has no team

Not only has he not analyzed why he did not win . He has not analyzed why he was so successful

Can his supporters look at Obi a and say these are h is top team members as in TWO PEOPLE from each geopolitical zone that are politically relevant?

That is what Obi needs to have spent the last 2 years building . Not commenting on every issue in the media

Rather he should have been doing the work of getting together A YOUNG TEAM of political associates . Sitting with them strategizing with them . The likes of Aisha Yesufu, Hundeyin and so on who put so much effort . He should have been meeting such people every month building

But no he is talking coalition

Atiku needs Obi Obi does not need any of those people like Atiku and ElRufai

He should go and work

Work with Young people under the age of 50

If I had seen that kind of work ethic I would have believed

All I see is somebody who just got luck and does not understand what happened

ifinger:
You must be living in a dream world 📌 what ground work is Atiku doing? Shearing dollar's? U think obi is Dia to clap? U sure have not learnt anything from 2023 Nigerian are tired of oligarchy 📌 the moment you give the ticket to Atiku just no that history will repeat itself no two way about it📌 this is not capping 🧢

It not same the Condition are not same .The Muslim Muslim Buzz that made Northern Christian Votes obi is not there again . It was 3 Muslim Candidate VS single christian
So it was a Religious contest .
Now it a single Northern Candidate Atiku VS Two Southern Candidate so Obi is splitting South Votes if he leave especially South South where Tinibu hope to get Votes .
Tinibu is not getting any 5.8 million from the North the Muslim Muslim mantra has failed his vote is going to Atiku Majority.

Atiku will step down for Obi and the Apc will be shocked…we want to hit them unexpectedly …Nigerians should calm down and watch how ADC will beat APC in their own game…the end of the evil party is nearer more than expectation

Why should Atiku want to take the turn of the South even with Obi proposing one term?

Nonsense let Tinubu continue then

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

In 2015, Tinubu did all the ground work and Buhari benefited , yet no one complained. You don't have a point

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

Don't mind them. That we have a coalition is the work of atiku. I remember him talkin about it immediately after the last election.

Obi doesn't even have a platform anymore. It's ego and pride that will make him not take the VP slot

aribisala0:
Simple truth is that Eboes lack political discipline because of their emotional nature

Political discipline entails patience , endurance and TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for your choices

Example

In 1979 . There were 19 states each with 5 senators

NPN Shagari won 7 states
UPN Awolowo won 5 States
NPP ZIk won 3 state
PRP Aminu Kano won 2 states
GNPP Waziri won 2 states

At the National Assembly NPN did not have Majority

What did Zik do? He compromised went into alliance with NPN and his party got the Speaker of the House of reps and some juicy positions

What did Awo do . He did not compromise
And Yoruba were frozen out of the so called juicy positions

Instead his party UPN focused on development in the states in controlled and forgot about the Federal Government positions

Again we saw that same level of political discipline with Tinubu when Obasanjo used the Federal might to capture the whole of the SW except Lagos

It is from Lagos that Tinubu regrouped to become president today

Note i am not talking about his governance as president but political sagacity and patience for the long term purpose of capturing power

Now we must ask why is Obi jumping up and down

Honestly he does not need Atiku. What Obi should have done to show competence is to take charge or the Labour party and build on his success from the last election. But he is showing signs of Impostor syndrome. A man who finds himself at the high table and deep down believes he does not belong
He needs patience and political organization. HAs he ever sat down with his team to analyze why he did not win the last election and what he can do to improve? Instead of propagating the fiction that he won?

NO!!!

WHY? He has no team

Not only has he not analyzed why he did not win . He has not analyzed why he was so successful

Can his supporters look at Obi a and say these are h is top team members as in TWO PEOPLE from each geopolitical zone that are politically relevant?

That is what Obi needs to have spent the last 2 years building . Not commenting on every issue in the media

Rather he should have been doing the work of getting together A YOUNG TEAM of political associates . Sitting with them strategizing with them . The likes of Aisha Yesufu, Hundeyin and so on who put so much effort . He should have been meeting such people every month building

But no he is talking coalition

Atiku needs Obi Obi does not need any of those people like Atiku and ElRufai

He should go and work

Work with Young people under the age of 50

If I had seen that kind of work ethic I would have believed

All I see is somebody who just got luck and does not understand what happened

You don't analyse Data in Entire Vote 5.8 + Atiku 6m and Obi 1.8 All came from the North this almost 14m of the entire 22m vote casted . meaning almost 60 percent of the Vote is from the North
So what can ObI do ?
He can't get this Vote 12m up Far North No matter what he does !
His 12m either goes to Atiku or TInibu
Before this 12 Million Normally goes to Buhari 11m .
Obi can only be a Future president under a Major party that can harness this 12m votes for him .
This what TInibu did
APC harvest this vites for him then added his other from Southwest

legacystore:
Why should Atiku want to take the turn of the South even with Obi proposing one term?

Nonsense let Tinubu continue then

Oya na.


We go see who will suffer.

If tiny but continues, atiku can then legitimately fight to win in 2031.

Can obi wait 12 years more?

As Una nobget sense
.. Make we dey see

2 Things: Sometimes, Strategically, Joseph needs to work under Pharoah.... Atiku & Obi Ticket

Sometimes, you use BAT's Strategy, Collaborating with Buhari to remove GEJ

It's time to serve the same medicine to BAT, Obi should work with ADC to remove disaster called BAT cum APC!

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

Tinubu did more than Atiku for many years.
_Seun from Temu.

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

I believe someone is using spell on them because truly they are unthinkable. The worst thing is thinking that Obi can do it alone. It made me conclude that some of Obi supporters have a low IQ. Why will someone stand and be deceiving himself or herself. If they don't want primary let them go their way.
We can't compare the traction that ADC is getting from the North to what is happening in the South. That means the North will contribute a significant votes to the South. Buhari won in 2015 for an additional of less than 3 million South votes that means the North provided the significant numbers.

Educationalserv:
Tinibu a southwest .
The Long term Loser will be South East .
Southwest will hand over to Ribadu North east
Tinibu then Ribadu or Atiku then Obi
In all available permutations the North stand to Gain
South east and South South Nothing in the next 16 years

As na you dey give power...see as you dey do permutations like it easy.......

"Rufai oseni is an APC mole"
"Rufai oseni is working for Tinubu"
"Rufai oseni don chop corn"

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

Then Atiku looses again. Tinubu continues. Atiku will end up the man that contested the most for presidency and lost the most and still never was president.

Pickieox:
This is not about Atiku, this is about removing Tinubu from power. Nigerians mean business this time around, and it’s not business as usual. The chicks have come home to roost.

Why can't Atiku support a southerner......must he be president...That was how Tinubu just wanted been called president and he has messed the country's economy in the guise if reform

That's the kind of politics den sabi.
They want everything to be placed on their laps.
If they succeeded in getting atiku to step down (which is 100% unlikely), they'll then try to manipulate Tinubu to also step aside for their candidate

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

swimmer:
Oya na.


We go see who will suffer.

If tiny but continues, atiku can then legitimately fight to win in 2031.

Can obi wait 12 years more?

As Una nobget sense
.. Make we dey see

Obi supporters are far from common sense and logic. By now Obi will be preparing for 2031 if he had not contested that election with Atiku. Atiku said in 2019 that when he becomes president and finishes is tunes that he would ensure a South East take from him. Obi has more 14 years to contest again calculating from now. How old will he be then.

DrAkpa:
There is really something wrong with the way you people reason. So you expect Atiku who is spearheading and doing all d groundwork in ADC, to finish cooking the food , and then you obidients with your Obi will come and eat? Abi

Why can't you and your obidients remain in labour party or start up a new party and push for a Southern president? You guys are very very unthinkable

So atiku is the only one spare heading adc abi? Listen to yourself, you are the only not thinking right. Party that is not yet upto one month you don dey indirectly talk who get am. This type of your reasoning is the reason Nigeria is going down as a nation

BlessedGift:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pc6dxAWF14


The ADC has said it has no preferred or favourite presidential aspirant but has set out to first put out a platform that would be attractive and acceptable to majority of Nigerians.

“We are doing this because we do not want this great ship called Nigeria to sink because if we do not rise up, and now, they will sink all of us.

“I don’t own this party more than any of our members and I urge all members to prepare to show Nigerians that ADC is a different party," the interim Chairman, David Mark has said.

The coalition was never a COALITION to begin with.
Mergers are formed between parties and not btw persons.
The individuals in the so-called coalition, were not influential enough to drag their erstwhile parties into a merger.
So, they are mere political decampees trying to chase clout on another platform.
Tinubu remains far more better, popular, intact and powerful than all of them placed together.

4 + 4 = ooPBAT
100%

Educationalserv:
You don't analyse Data in Entire Vote 5.8 + Atiku 6m and Obi 1.8 All came from the North this almost 14m of the entire 22m vote casted . meaning almost 60 percent of the Vote is from the North
So what can ObI do ?
He can't get this Vote 12m up Far North No matter what he does !
His 12m either goes to Atiku or TInibu
Before this 12 Million Normally goes to Buhari 11m .
Obi can only be a Future president under a Major party that can harness this 12m votes for him .
This what TInibu did
APC harvest this vites for him then added his other from Southwest

You need to write more coherently

You have not communicated anything

The only thing I observe which I think I need to address is this Buhari 12 million figure




First of all the presidential election in Nigeria is not determined just my the total number of votes

Many people claim to be educated and fail to understand this elementary fact

Just like in football league

If you win 1-0 or 100- 0 you will still get 3 points

To win the presidency the candidate must get 25% of the votes in 24 states

24 STATEs

In 2011 Buhari DID NOT GET 25% in A SINGLE STATE in Southern Nigeria

He also did not get 25% in Benue , Borno, Kogi or Kwara

That is he got 25% in 15 states in the North and Abuja = 16
And zero in the south

8 STATES SHORT OF THE 24 NEEDED

whether he got 100 million votes in Kano it is like winning a game 100-0 still only 3 points


Now to the 12 million issue.
In 2011 Buhari got 12 million and Jonathan Got 22 million

I do not believe those figures are real. Apart from the obvious underage voting I think both Jonathan and Buhari were able to conjure votes that did not exist

With BVN in 2023 the total votes of Tinubu , Atiku and Obi were 22 million while Jonathan and Buhari got 34 million in 2011


I do not believe those 12 million votes are real and more importantly what matters is National spread = 25% in 24 states not 100% in in Kano and katsina