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M7even:
Pele..you really seething Arsenal's decision at failing to acquire Osimhen...you'd wished they'd signed him up right. ?

Samueltemi337:
He even said psg won't pass the second round of the ucl 😂😂😂

TheSuperNerd:
Only an ignoramus doesn't know Forgiveness' reasons. He wants a striker and selfishly courts Osimhen as a he is obviously the best available on the market for this summer irrespective of how shitty and unstable Chelsea currently is.

And my reasons are for Osimhen to head to the best bet where his rise up the football ladder won't be hampered. This is why I prefer Arsenal. Playing philosophy is also taken into consideration.


And yes, the stigma stays as you are one comment from dropping stinkers. You couldn't even catch a simple sarcasm on a discourse you were also involved in pages ago. How unintelligibly amnesiac.

Now you are dropping a shallow stance on what my main discourse with Forgiveness is. Typical Emeka... rushing to comment but short of understanding.

Napoleon55:
So do u think he should go to Galatasaray perhaps he could lead them to champions league glory then some of us could eat our words?

And no time did people consider PSG that could boast of great players like Mbappe, Messi and the rest less elite.

Samueltemi337:
They were many here
Many didn't fancy the PSG move at that time

TheGoodJoe:

I doubt any was against Osimhen moving to PSG. I for one was in support of it.

lovewins:
I personally do not like the Galatasaray move. Would prefer he plays in top England, Spain or Italy too. That however wasn't the crux of that argument. I can express my preference as a fan of Victor and my disappointment on the Turkey move without calling to question the motivation for his decision, while at the same time predicting the future like I know tomorrow.

@TheGoodJoe's argument that Victor's refusal to reduce his wage for EPL teams is because of his desire for luxurious leaving and a dent on his legacy is in my opinion problematic. First, he had know way to know his true intentions (none of us do). Second, even if Victor decides today to reduce his wage, he'll still be rich enough to be luxurious, so that argument falls flat on its face.

On legacy, no one can't predict the future. Let's assume Victor signs for a club that like say Arsenal who hasn't won anything in the last decade, wouldn't that fit into the same "no legacy" argument? Who would have thought just a year ago that PSG would be the best team in Europe after letting Mbappe, Messi and Neymar go. Many persons here didn't think it was a great move for Victor just a year ago.

Odunayaw:
So Saudi is irrelevant to the discussion. We're talking about why a small PSG side — according to you, pays Kvara a similar wage with Gala, and "big side" [and you] regard such a wage prideful.

Odunayaw:
So Saudi is irrelevant to the discussion. We're talking about why a small PSG side — according to you, pays Kvara a similar wage with Gala, and "big side" [and you] regard such a wage prideful.

Samueltemi337:
He even said psg won't pass the second round of the ucl 😂😂😂

Odunayaw:
Joe no know that one o. They are small side

lovewins:
I personally do not like the Galatasaray move. Would prefer he plays in top England, Spain or Italy too. That however wasn't the crux of that argument. I can express my preference as a fan of Victor and my disappointment on the Turkey move without calling to question the motivation for his decision, while at the same time predicting the future like I know tomorrow.

@TheGoodJoe's argument that Victor's refusal to reduce his wage for EPL teams is because of his desire for luxurious leaving and a dent on his legacy is in my opinion problematic. First, he had know way to know his true intentions (none of us do). Second, even if Victor decides today to reduce his wage, he'll still be rich enough to be luxurious, so that argument falls flat on its face.

On legacy, no one can't predict the future. Let's assume Victor signs for a club that like say Arsenal who hasn't won anything in the last decade, wouldn't that fit into the same "no legacy" argument? Who would have thought just a year ago that PSG would be the best team in Europe after letting Mbappe, Messi and Neymar go. Many persons here didn't think it was a great move for Victor just a year ago.

TheGoodJoe:
The point is not guaranteed Legacy but a chance to achieve Legacy. I believe that has always been my point. So if you believe that there is a possibility of not achieving greatness in one of the biggest clubs in England, then imagine how low Osimhen's odds will be at Galatasaray.

I think I already pointed out winning the EPL Golden boot. It is not only winning trophies but also personal accolades.

A drop in wage demands wouod have given Osimhen a better shot at achieving greatness.

The wages is not for necessities but extra luxury.

Finito.

Goke7:
If it's personal accolades, Osihmen has plenty already. Just say you want to watch him score goals in England, that's all. All these legacy, greatness, and golden boot na senmatics sir. Dude is already greatness personified. If you're still in doubt, check his Wikipedia page under individual honours. England cannot be the only place he achieves greatness or legacy! That one no enter

Goke7:
Imagine o, Arsenal. People should just say they want to watch Osihmen week in week out on their screens in the EPL instead of all this legacy or greatness bullshit! That one no enter at all!

TheGoodJoe:

I never said PSG is a small side. I wonder where your getting such misconception from.

I said PSG is not among the biggest sides. This is their first Champions League. First. Teams have done it repeatedly. Teams play in more glamorous leagues.

That is why they pay more. That does not mean after the top sides they don't fall into a big bracket.

Or are you saying PSG is as big as the likes of Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc?

TheGoodJoe:
That is PSG, not one of the big sides.

Odunayaw:
Inconsistent man

TheGoodJoe:

I wonder what you are still trying to argue.

I said the big sides would require a lower wage to get Osimhen. You said Kvaratskelia. I said he joined PSG, which is not one of the big sides. That was why he got such wages. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea would not have paid him that much.

That is a simple point.

TheGoodJoe:
Osimhen can't expect the big sides to pay him what PSG is paying Kvaratskelia. The point is too simple.

TheGoodJoe:
Maybe missed my phrase. PSG is not one of the biggest sides. PSG is definitely a big side but it is not amongst the greats. Not at all. Or can you put PSG in the same bracket as Bayern and Barcelona?

TheGoodJoe:
What osimhen did at Napoli is the only main Legacy he can hinge on now. However going to a place of big reputation like a buy Munich the Chelsea in Manchester United put a semen in a position of even 10X what he has already done that is why moving into a big side is necessary. Winning golden boot in Turkey won't push him among the greatest of all time.

It is about pursuing greatness. At the moment, Osimhen is not among the greatest. He has not even reached Drogba's level.

TheGoodJoe:
Maybe missed my phrase. PSG is not one of the biggest sides. PSG is definitely a big side but it is not amongst the greats. [/b]Not at all. Or can you put PSG in the same bracket as Bayern and Barcelona?

TheGoodJoe:
We can watch numerous players week in week out but few have unmatchable legacy. Osimhen has the potential of being one of the greatest strikers. Moving to Turkey diminishes his chance of achieving that.

Samueltemi337:
Alot were
Even TheLoneCitizen said Iheanacho moving to Sevilla was more exciting than Osimhen going to PSG

Goke7:
That's your opinion, and to cut his wages to move to a bigger side cannot be a justification cos Osihmen is not an entry-level or young player. Even if he moves to Germany, where he has played before, folks on this thread will still complain if they don't see him in England. Greatness I insist, cannot be only in England.

Goke7:
Fine, that means legacy or greatness is not in England. Thanks

Moving to Turkey was not his doing. Dude even tried not to go to Saudi Arabia, then still we have all accused him here of all sorts of wanting money over football. It's obvious that the bigger clubs' not wanting to buy him has nothing to do with either footballing or financial reasons.

Goke7:
we are getting there gradually, from small to big, maybe they will become one of the greatest in your eyes if they win the Club World Cup today.

Goke7:
That's your opinion, and to cut his wages to move to a bigger side cannot be a justification cos Osihmen is not an entry-level or young player. Even if he moves to Germany, where he has played before, folks on this thread will still complain if they don't see him in England. Greatness I insist, cannot be only in England.

Odunayaw:
But Bayern & Barcelona are not the clubs in discuss don't move goalposts. You even went as low as mentioning Arsenal just to defend an irrelevant point.

There are players on Man U, Chelsea & Arsenal with similar wages who are not as good as Osimhen. Admit it is your subjective pov and let's move on

Odunayaw:
It is a simplistic point. Far lesser quality players earn such amounts so stop the cap

Napoleon55:
So where do you think he has a better and more realistic chance of achieving greatness on GOAT level status?
Will Turkey be among?

Napoleon55:
So where do you think he has a better and more realistic chance of achieving greatness on GOAT level status?
Will Turkey be among?

TheGoodJoe:
The reason top clubs could not go for Osimhen is his wage demands. So we can't know the clubs that would have wanted him if his wage demands stayed high. That is where It is troubling. And yes, Osimhen stood a chance of hitting greatness at Arsenal.