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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Chibuezem:I have known the truth that's why i'm asking you to quote the word TRINITY before anything further! ![]() |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 7:35am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24:Show with screenshot where I claimed the Jesus is NOT God. I hope you understood what you are to show me? We shall see those working for the father of li-ars. |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 7:44am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24:This is a very useless comment. Make it useful by posting Paul's rebuke against the prophecies and the words of Jesus Christ in the scriptures I posted. I'm not interested in hide and seek from people who are too afraid to counter the scriptures I posted. Not a single person has done that and we are about to enter page 4. You have used 3 pages to post laughing emojis. |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 7:55am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24:Please that my post that you claimed and typed all these things for is not for you. Stop being dishonest and deceitful. Like I told you from the beginning that I don't have anything to discuss with you since you don't know how to make use of your bible. So there is nothing like rebuttal or refutal except on l.ies that were told. And stop acting as if we have been discussing anything to deceive people. The only thing I'm doing with you is to show you where and how you li-ed against my post. |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 8:27am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Chibuezem:MaxInDHouse armchairscholar Explore2xmore See the sect of dishonest people that are preaching trinity. Always looking for a way to fool me with words as they do with trinity. I said it right from the beginning that they are doing the work of satan the father of li.es and antichrist. 1. I never asked him if my scripture are correct. 2. I never asked him anything about my interpretation. See screenshots I was patient to ask him the question a second time, pointing out what I needed him to answer, so it will become very obvious that he is deceitful. Someone who cannot understand a simple question has no business teaching things from the bible. The antichrist is at work in then. Doing everything possible with li,es to stand against the only true God and our Lord Jesus Christ. John 8:44 NIV [44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 8:31am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Boomark:It's very obvious to begin with that you do not know your problem statement. Any sane person understands your emphasis that "Jesus is not God" |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 8:44am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Boomark:what lies? You claim you caught me lieing only for you to screenshot me reiterating your own words😂. Also, what then is the use of posting all these to prove trinity wrong? When you have formed a dogmatic conclusion 🤨. You are not open to discourse, all what you wrote up there are your own assertions . Your evasive character shows that you are afraid of a discourse, I am not interested in wasting my time. If you quote me saying that I lied then I will clear it up! You claimed you didn't say Jesus is God, when your problem statement revolves around it? 🤨No be juju be that. You bash trinity when the entire concept is hinged on Jesus' coeternal, coequal substance with God👀. Once again, you are misinformed! Tell that to those you can score cheap victories on, as for me, if we do have an engagement, you will be em.barrassed! Out of il.-literacy, you said I reported you so that your quotes could get banned—Imagine, the wisdom of Arianism! I don't need to engage with you because you have formed a conclusion that everything I want to say are all lies! |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 8:57am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Boomark:We have done that, but you have ignored it. You have only picked what soothes you. That verse rebukes the flawed statement you made earlier! Boomark:If you like you can take it up with Paul, that's your business! Are you so pained that I use emojis? Are you like Max that resort to cheap ad hominems when you can't tackle the matter at hand? 😂Arian keeps on surprising me! His children are really funny! Henceforth, after this reply. I won't engage you. I just wanted to show the reader that you have formed your own brick wall and even when lapses are shown to you, you assert them as lies. It's very evident that this can never be an intellectual discourse centred on scripture! I leave the rest to the reader to form their own conclusions. Boomark:By the way this is a weak argument against trinity. I leave this question to the reader, is the term "Fibonacci" found within nature as a whole but yet its series is prevalent? Is "schwarzschild radius" written on the moon, or perhaps an asteroid but yet it's important when studying black holes? Is the womb you came from called womb? Is it not a man made term that exemplifies the concept of storage and development of foetus? The wisdom of Arian is really humorous 😅. Have a nice day! |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by BIBLESPEAKS(m): 10:01am On Jul 16, 2025 |
The issue i, alongside all non-trinitarians have with the doctrine of Trinity - it is unintelligible, it is an idea forced in the scriptures and has its roots in paganism. Those who try to prove the Trinity from the Bible rely on a few selected so-called "proof texts" in which wild interpretations have been given in order to make it appear real. One of many questions regarding this issue is, if Jesus was both God and man while he was on earth, how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26). If Jesus is truly God Almighty: How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67) John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31) How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15. History says: The Council of Nicaea in 325 AD made Jesus 'God'. They waited until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula? |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 10:05am On Jul 16, 2025 |
Boomark:who do you want us to believe Jesus or you? John14:9 [i] "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" [i] Even your own speech contradicts you😂. According to your speech, it was God almighty that spoke these words yet you claim something different even using Timothy below to sell your point! Boomark:Judging by your own yardstick whose words should we hold as standard?🤨how did you reconcile these two verses? Does wisdom not tell you that Jesus is the physical manifestation of God—[b] The fullness of God in human body! I leave this also to the reader! By his own words, he contradicted himself how much more the Lord's word! Look at this fallacy also: Boomark:Food for thought, if fallen angels already knew who he was by these verses Matthew 8:29, Mark 1:24 this negates his man-made assertion. How he even came to such conclusion is baffling?😅wisdom of Arianism! If I scrutinize your write-up, you will know you have only concocted fallacies and half-baked misconceptions! I don't have your time, hopefully with these I have been able to show the reader to take your posits with a pinch of salt, they are very misplaced and it's based on some nairaland genius' conception. He doesn't take the scripture in full, only cherry-picks! And from these he makes theories😂. |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 10:35am On Jul 16, 2025 |
BIBLESPEAKS:Nice write-up, let me address your questions real quick, one after the other. The first question can God die? God cannot die, he is immortal. God made the concept death👀, which in the context of Jesus is physical death. Jesus has the ability to lay down or take up his life, it's a voluntary thing done for the sake of salvation! Jn10:18. This doesn't negate the fact that with God there's life eternal, all was done within a physical context to exploit a physical limitation, death, for the purpose of salvation. Jesus has the fullness of God embodied within him, He can choose when he needs to express himself fully or not. It's like someone saying that because Jesus was subject to Gravity that he doesn't have the fullness of God. When the occasion needed he ascended to heaven, it's something that he could have done. Do you understand this concept? Also there is finity in infinity and finity can be expanded to infinity. Hence if he has the fullness of God, he choose by what mark he wills to express himself. This also allows him to be Man and God in one person! Any time he wills, he can be finite or infinite! Your next question, the Jews killed him because his words implied equality with God! Jn10:30. This is well documented. The Jews understood that things beget after their like! You can't be a son of God if you are not divine🤨. Thus they understood he claimed he was equal with God based on substance! And you know the rest—what happened after that Now, John summed it up. The Sonship implies his divine nature and it also fits his Jewish audience. The Jews were aware of this already Ps 2:12, psalm 110:1, Isaiah 9:6. Thus the Jews knew the background, all what he(John) had to show was that He was the Son, by showing his divine side and using other fulfilled prophecies! It was mentioned in the bible that he preached quite different from the rest Matt 7:29. Hence he didn't tell them plainly, but the signs were there of His authority. He spoke in parables when needed to obfuscate the meaning of his message Matt 13:34-35. Hence, He must have preached in several synagogues with the Jews being only able to hold onto a few of his words which implied equality with God! They preached his Sonship which implied substance equality with God, even at this they were still persecuted when the Jews had enough. I just gave short notes on each question as I do not have the luxury of time, by evening if you have any more questions I will get back to you. Also, forgive my typos, if there are. Thanks |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 7:50pm On Jul 16, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24 Apart from lying. It now also obvious that you don't understand English. If you don't know the meaning of SCREENSHOT, SEARCH IT ON GOOGLE. See what I told you to show me in the screenshot below. I don't know why you people don't understand simple instruction. All the things you wasted time typing are useless. That's how liars do cover up for lying. I need proof in a single picture only, simple. Let me ask you again. From the 2nd screenshot you said that I posted that Jesus is not God. So prove to us that you are not a liar by 1. USING SCREENSHOT(S) TO SHOW ME WHERE I SAID JESUS IS NOT GOD. You can Google my question and understand it well before you answer. I wonder how people who don't understand simple question are here claiming they know something from the bible. NO LONG STORY. Follow the instruction and guideline I have given you to vindicate yourself. All these for a simple question with 12 words. And they think they can understand bible with close to one million words.
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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 8:10pm On Jul 16, 2025 |
Boomark:What more do you want from screenshots when I have given you excerpts of your speech, where you mentioned such. Nvm, the screenshot is there for all to see. If You like you can deny and say that I fabricated those quotes of yours. Hence the screenshot will show who is really the liar! This guy and lie, 5 & 6.
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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Boomark:Please i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. This arguments is none of my business the only key that disproves TRINITY is in that group name: Jehovah's Witnesses. Jesus said: “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20 Let Trinitarians organize themselves and prove they truly know Jesus and his father {John 17:3} after all Jesus prayed for his true disciples to be united in faith {John 17:22} and for the world of unbelievers to observe the love that permeates their assembly. John 13:34-35 Jesus' real disciples will have fine works {James 2:18-26} that the world of unbelievers will notice globally {Matthew 5:14-16} as they use the word of their God to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, erase the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the hearts of all adherents of the word of their God, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} with this they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that they are true witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Act 1:8 Anything aside that is worthless, useless and aimless arguments! 2Timothy 2:23; Titus 3:9 Thanks, God bless you and may you have peace! ![]() |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 10:06am On Jul 17, 2025*. Modified: 10:44am On Jul 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Bro you failed in your advertisement of your organisation Jehovah's witnesses. Stop giving the glory that belongs to God to your church/group if that is what you do on nairaland. The only key that disproves TRINITY is in the bible ( The key is the word of God. The words of Jesus Christ, prophecies from God, and the letters from the apostles. They are all in the bible. Your organisation didn't write the bible or inspire the scripture. Let them leave the bible and manufacture their own key so we can aee. Your organisation is an imperfect group. So putting an imperfect group where you should put the perfect is a blunder and a fatal error. The wolves in sheep's clothing can also apply to you, your organisation, and anybody. I don't want peace. I want problems always ![]() May the peace of Jehovah God be with me. May his face shine on me and may he favour me to uproot and exposé all the works of satan and the antichrist in Jesus name amen. God bless you too. |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 10:20am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Ken4Christ Chibuezem I don't want to believe that you guys have fled with just one question from me. It is now going to 2 days. See the screenshots and answer your questions. I tried to post it last night but it failed severally whenever I refresh the page. I want to slay the last hope of those believing this Trinity falsehood from the antichrist today and update my original post.
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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 11:48am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24:See your own in the picture below. It has been removed severely. Read the things you see in the picture carefully and explain. You quoted Matthew 8:29, Mark 1:24 against what I wrote without revealing the content. This is where demons recognized Jesus as the son of God and the Holy one of God. After this you started talking off point and didn't connect your scripture to anything. People will be wondering if you are ok. They are proof that you might have a problem. You are not fit to teach anyone the scripture. For now just focus on the 1st screenshot and reply. I made it bold so you will see what you need to do
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| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:25pm On Jul 17, 2025 |
It is well! Please don't mention my name anytime you want to argue with your people i'm not interested in such arguments to call my name means to inquire which group is doing God's will today anything aside that is none of my business. Thank you! ![]() Boomark: |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Ken4Christ: 1:31pm On Jul 17, 2025 |
Boomark:Please answer this question before I make further comments; 1. Who is the Holy Spirit? 2. Is he inferior to God? |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Gabrielshow24: 2:40pm On Jul 17, 2025 |
Boomark:It's become really obvious you lack com-prr-heen-sion. The scripture was to show that your assertion: "Angels started seeing Jesus when he was flesh" was false. Fallen Angels had known about him and they could recognize him. You have no case boomark. Is this what you have now relied your thesis upon? After I showed the world that you lied! That paragraph also started with "look at this fallacy" and ended with "how he came up with such a conclusion" which was to show the reader that you made a lot of assertions that can't be substantiated, they are solely based on what you think! Kindly tell us, why Angels started seeing Jesus only when he came to earth, when he hath already been with the Father even before the world even began? Psalm 2:12, Job38:7, John17:5, John 8:56, Gen19:24, Gen18:1-15. [b] These verses above are there to show that angels should have been seeing Jesus, it is not just when he became flesh that they started seeing him! [/b]Do you get my point now? Even a child would have understood what I drew out as an error on your part😅! |
| Re: One God Is The Father. Trinity Is A False Doctrine by Boomark(op): 4:57pm On Jul 17, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24:Stop being dishonest and mischievous. Don't you understand English? In my post which you quoted it was boldly written that you should focus on the 1st screenshot. Look at how people who call themselves Christians are being terrible l.iars. please I didn't ask you anything about angels seeing Jesus. See it here again. Tell me how you twisted what I said that [b]Jesus is a God to mean Jesus is not God. Follow simple instruction if you actually wrote your Jamb or waec by yourself. Nawa o.
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