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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Factcheck0001: 5:25pm On Jul 17, 2025

Finquas:
I will only answer dis question when u educate me on what a body double is...

see u people n your propaganda

Buhari was cloned n your agulu Messiah said he also met him before election n Buhari told him to treat the poor well

Who did your agulu Messiah meet?

Jubril or Buhari?

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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 17, 2025

Tingotoe:
It means that in real life you are a liar. You have never seen anything even close to a clone before

I think you are just a devil's advocate

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Factcheck0001: 5:33pm On Jul 17, 2025

agentNija:
Send your aza now. The hunger no be small thing o.

u can use many of your alternate account to beg, but this is just my union bank account balance.

If u get it then u try but I doubt

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Factcheck0001: 5:43pm On Jul 17, 2025

Finquas:
U sound very lame... If u reduce a topic to petty name calling.. and not stay on facts.. it diminishes you and makes u rogue.. I should have just given u agbado to eat ..cuz Its obvious u empty and hungry

oga who did Peter obi meet?

Jubril or Buhari?

Only people who don't ask questions can b decieved by u lots

One simple question n u won't b able to give an answer but u will start deflecting.

Who did obi meet

Buhari or jubril

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Finquas: 5:45pm On Jul 17, 2025

kedeojo:
Is not deviating. You igbos want the rest of Nigeria to believe nmandi kanu of what he said to others but you don't want us to believe what he also said about Obi. That show you are an hypocrite. Anyway he still suffering from is foolish talk till date.

You see how u guys misfire cuz of prejudice and not on logic.. you don't even know me to boldly announce my Clan .. dats to say the least ludicrous grin

. I asked a question based on what the originator of this topic proped up . And none of you can answer it .. but rather choose to go the weak and inferior method of name calling and end up exhibiting folly cool

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Finquas: 5:49pm On Jul 17, 2025

Factcheck0001:
oga who did Peter obi meet?

Jubril or Buhari?

Only people who don't ask questions can b decieved by u lots

One simple question n u won't b able to give an answer but u will start deflecting.
Oga if u are hungry .. let me know . I will order enough Agbado for u.. but if u want ur question to be answered.. den first educate me on what a body double is ? If u can't .. den stay off my mentions

Who did obi meet

Buhari or jubril

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Moveittothem: 6:56pm On Jul 17, 2025

According to MNK, Jubril from Sudan is a Doppelganger, or wearing a silicone mask.

Not cloning

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Moveittothem: 6:57pm On Jul 17, 2025

SeyiDominion:
Big Question: Can an adult man who died be cloned and be acting as the dead person within a short time?

The Answers, according to Chatgpt:

No, a cloned adult man would not behave like the person who died—certainly not within months, and likely never exactly like them. Here's why:

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🔬 1. Cloning = DNA only, not memories or personality

Cloning can (in theory) produce a genetic copy of a person.

But personality, memories, and behavior are shaped by:

Environment

Life experiences

Upbringing

Education

Relationships

> So a clone would be like an identical twin born later, not a reincarnated or revived version of the dead man.

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🧠 2. Memories and consciousness aren't stored in DNA

There's no current technology to copy or transfer someone's memories or consciousness into a clone.

Even if you cloned a body, it would be a baby, starting life from scratch.

---

⏳ 3. Clones don't grow instantly

Cloning would produce a newborn, not an adult.

It would take decades for the clone to reach the adult's age.

> There's no known or theoretical method to "age up" a human clone rapidly.

---

🧬 4. Behavior is not fully determined by genetics

While genes can influence things like temperament, they don’t define a person’s beliefs, decisions, habits, or learned knowledge.

---

🚫 In summary:

A cloned adult man:

Would be born as a baby

Would not have the memories, personality, or behaviors of the dead man

Could resemble him physically as he matures

Would grow up to be his own unique person

There’s no current science that allows us to “recreate” a person in full by cloning—only their genetic body, not their mind or self.

According to MNK, Jubril from Sudan is a Doppelganger, or wearing a silicone mask.

Not cloning

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by SeyiDominion(op): 7:10pm On Jul 17, 2025

Moveittothem:
According to MNK, Jubril from Sudan is a Doppelganger, or wearing a silicone mask.

Not cloning

The possibility of a body double acting as President Muhammadu Buhari is extremely unlikely when viewed through the lens of logic, security protocol, and international scrutiny.

Let’s explore the facts, arguments, and counterarguments.

🧠 The Origin of the Rumor

The “Buhari body double” conspiracy theory became popular around late 2017, during and after Buhari’s long medical absence in London. The story suggested he had died and been replaced by a Sudanese man named Jubril.

Promoted most loudly by Nnamdi Kanu (leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB), the claim relied on:

Changes in Buhari’s physical appearance (e.g. ear shape, writing hand, etc.)

His reduced public engagement

Alleged inconsistencies in voice or speech

🧪 Analyzing the Possibility

Factor Analysis

Physical resemblance No evidence supports that a double exists with exact facial features, voice, and gait, under public and media scrutiny.
Behavior and speech patterns Language experts have not identified compelling inconsistencies in Buhari’s voice before and after 2017.
Security protocols Nigeria’s presidency is surrounded by dozens of aides, DSS, ministers, foreign leaders, and close family. Sustaining a fake president for years would be near-impossible to hide.
Diplomatic exposure Buhari continued to travel globally, meet with world leaders (e.g., UN, EU, ECOWAS, AU). No credible government or intelligence agency ever raised concerns.
Family and inner circle His wife, children, political allies, and even critics never seriously claimed he was replaced. A conspiracy of this scale would require total complicity or silence from hundreds.

📉 Why It Falls Apart

The theory fails under even basic scrutiny:

Medical absence isn’t death — Buhari was confirmed alive by UK medical staff, Nigerian officials, and foreign diplomats.

Media and live interviews continued — including press conferences, town halls, and the 2019 election campaign.

He joked about the theory himself in 2018 at a business conference in Poland, saying:

> "It’s the real me, I assure you… I will soon celebrate my 76th birthday and I will still go strong."

🔍 What Fuels the Conspiracy?

Lack of government transparency during Buhari’s 2017 health leave led to mistrust.

Political tension, especially from separatist groups like IPOB, turned speculation into propaganda.

Social media virality, especially from misleading photos/videos, allowed the theory to spread beyond Nigeria.

🧾 Summary

Question Answer

Could a body double plausibly act as Buhari? No — the practical, social, and political barriers make this nearly impossible.
Is there credible evidence of a replacement? None. No verified source, institution, or state has backed the claim.
Why do people still believe it? Conspiracies offer simple answers to complex political realities, especially when distrust is high.

📌 Bottom Line:

The “Jubril from Sudan” theory is a conspiracy, not a reality. It lacks evidence, logic, and credibility. It thrives mostly on misinformation and political distrust.

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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by 9japride(m): 7:11pm On Jul 17, 2025

Finquas:
I think what is discussed is a human double..not cloning.. Maybe u should educate us on if a human double can behave like the original version

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Anyone using the term clone is being mischievous. The right word should be human double.

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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Finquas: 7:20pm On Jul 17, 2025

9japride:
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Anyone using the term clone is being mischievous. The right word should be human double.

💯 Exactly bro.. that's why they running away from the question I posed.. they just want to be mischievous

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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by 9japride(m): 7:26pm On Jul 17, 2025

Finquas:
💯 Exactly bro.. that's why they running away from the question I posed.. they just want to be mischievous

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I really tired of misinformation.

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by SeyiDominion(op): 7:31pm On Jul 17, 2025

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by hope4nigeria(m): 7:41pm On Jul 17, 2025

SeyiDominion:
Big Question: Can an adult man who died be cloned and be acting as the dead person within a short time?

The Answers, according to Chatgpt:

No, a cloned adult man would not behave like the person who died—certainly not within months, and likely never exactly like them. Here's why:

---

🔬 1. Cloning = DNA only, not memories or personality

Cloning can (in theory) produce a genetic copy of a person.

But personality, memories, and behavior are shaped by:

Environment

Life experiences

Upbringing

Education

Relationships

> So a clone would be like an identical twin born later, not a reincarnated or revived version of the dead man.

---

🧠 2. Memories and consciousness aren't stored in DNA

There's no current technology to copy or transfer someone's memories or consciousness into a clone.

Even if you cloned a body, it would be a baby, starting life from scratch.

---

⏳ 3. Clones don't grow instantly

Cloning would produce a newborn, not an adult.

It would take decades for the clone to reach the adult's age.

> There's no known or theoretical method to "age up" a human clone rapidly.

---

🧬 4. Behavior is not fully determined by genetics

While genes can influence things like temperament, they don’t define a person’s beliefs, decisions, habits, or learned knowledge.

---

🚫 In summary:

A cloned adult man:

Would be born as a baby

Would not have the memories, personality, or behaviors of the dead man

Could resemble him physically as he matures

Would grow up to be his own unique person

There’s no current science that allows us to “recreate” a person in full by cloning—only their genetic body, not their mind or self.

you are just exposing buhari the more, people who spare head the evil act understand how gullible Nigerians can be so forget it

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Moveittothem: 8:16pm On Jul 17, 2025

SeyiDominion:
The possibility of a body double acting as President Muhammadu Buhari is extremely unlikely when viewed through the lens of logic, security protocol, and international scrutiny.

Let’s explore the facts, arguments, and counterarguments.

🧠 The Origin of the Rumor

The “Buhari body double” conspiracy theory became popular around late 2017, during and after Buhari’s long medical absence in London. The story suggested he had died and been replaced by a Sudanese man named Jubril.

Promoted most loudly by Nnamdi Kanu (leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB), the claim relied on:

Changes in Buhari’s physical appearance (e.g. ear shape, writing hand, etc.)

His reduced public engagement

Alleged inconsistencies in voice or speech

🧪 Analyzing the Possibility

Factor Analysis

Physical resemblance No evidence supports that a double exists with exact facial features, voice, and gait, under public and media scrutiny.
Behavior and speech patterns Language experts have not identified compelling inconsistencies in Buhari’s voice before and after 2017.
Security protocols Nigeria’s presidency is surrounded by dozens of aides, DSS, ministers, foreign leaders, and close family. Sustaining a fake president for years would be near-impossible to hide.
Diplomatic exposure Buhari continued to travel globally, meet with world leaders (e.g., UN, EU, ECOWAS, AU). No credible government or intelligence agency ever raised concerns.
Family and inner circle His wife, children, political allies, and even critics never seriously claimed he was replaced. A conspiracy of this scale would require total complicity or silence from hundreds.

📉 Why It Falls Apart

The theory fails under even basic scrutiny:

Medical absence isn’t death — Buhari was confirmed alive by UK medical staff, Nigerian officials, and foreign diplomats.

Media and live interviews continued — including press conferences, town halls, and the 2019 election campaign.

He joked about the theory himself in 2018 at a business conference in Poland, saying:

> "It’s the real me, I assure you… I will soon celebrate my 76th birthday and I will still go strong."

🔍 What Fuels the Conspiracy?

Lack of government transparency during Buhari’s 2017 health leave led to mistrust.

Political tension, especially from separatist groups like IPOB, turned speculation into propaganda.

Social media virality, especially from misleading photos/videos, allowed the theory to spread beyond Nigeria.

🧾 Summary

Question Answer

Could a body double plausibly act as Buhari? No — the practical, social, and political barriers make this nearly impossible.
Is there credible evidence of a replacement? None. No verified source, institution, or state has backed the claim.
Why do people still believe it? Conspiracies offer simple answers to complex political realities, especially when distrust is high.

📌 Bottom Line:

The “Jubril from Sudan” theory is a conspiracy, not a reality. It lacks evidence, logic, and credibility. It thrives mostly on misinformation and political distrust.

WHAT IF BUHARI REALLY DIED IN LONDON IN 2017?
A Logical Breakdown You’ve Probably Never Heard Before

In 2017, President Buhari left for medical treatment in London. He was gone for 104 days. No video. No live photo. No audio. Nothing.

Just imagine that: the president of Africa’s most populous country disappears for over 3 months, and nobody sees him. In London of all places, where paparazzi, embassy workers, and journalists are everywhere.

When he came back, we were told he couldn’t use his office because rats had eaten the cables. Think about that. RATS. Garba Shehu later confessed the rat story was a lie, just to distract the public from Buhari’s health condition.
Why couldn't he make use of the Aso Rock office? Possibly because Jubril Biometrics couldn't access it.
And there was a renovation.

Now let’s go deeper.

Buhari’s wife, Aisha, publicly said cabals have taken over the presidency. Why would she say that unless she knew something was seriously wrong? If your own wife says people are running your office in your absence, is it not obvious something deeper is happening?

A former British MP, Eric Joyce, even tweeted condolences in 2017 that Buhari had died. Not once. Multiple tweets. With confidence. And he never deleted them. Ask yourself: would a British politician risk his reputation over “rumors”? Or did he hear something credible?

Then there's Nnamdi Kanu’s challenge. He said if Buhari could speak Fulfulde, the native tongue of his own people, he would drop Biafra agitation. Till today, “Buhari” never took that challenge. Why? A Fulani man dodging Fulfulde? Or was it someone who couldn’t speak it?

Now look at the physical changes. Compare Buhari in 2015 to the “Buhari” from 2018 onward. Ears. Height. Voice. Movement. Yes, people age. But ear shapes don’t change. And even the way he walks and talks changed.

Ask yourself this:

If the Nigerian elite could hide Yar’Adua’s death and control the media for months back then, what makes you think they wouldn’t do it again?

The truth may never be officially confirmed. But if they could lie about rats, hide the president, silence his wife, ignore Fulfulde, and let a UK MP call Buhari dead without consequences — then what else could they have hidden?

Sometimes, the silence tells you more than the noise.

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by bdon123(m): 8:41pm On Jul 17, 2025

SeyiDominion:
Big Question: Can an adult man who died be cloned and be acting as the dead person within a short time?

The Answers, according to Chatgpt:

No, a cloned adult man would not behave like the person who died—certainly not within months, and likely never exactly like them. Here's why:

---

🔬 1. Cloning = DNA only, not memories or personality

Cloning can (in theory) produce a genetic copy of a person.

But personality, memories, and behavior are shaped by:

Environment

Life experiences

Upbringing

Education

Relationships

> So a clone would be like an identical twin born later, not a reincarnated or revived version of the dead man.

---

🧠 2. Memories and consciousness aren't stored in DNA

There's no current technology to copy or transfer someone's memories or consciousness into a clone.

Even if you cloned a body, it would be a baby, starting life from scratch.

---

⏳ 3. Clones don't grow instantly

Cloning would produce a newborn, not an adult.

It would take decades for the clone to reach the adult's age.

> There's no known or theoretical method to "age up" a human clone rapidly.

---

🧬 4. Behavior is not fully determined by genetics

While genes can influence things like temperament, they don’t define a person’s beliefs, decisions, habits, or learned knowledge.

---

🚫 In summary:

A cloned adult man:

Would be born as a baby

Would not have the memories, personality, or behaviors of the dead man

Could resemble him physically as he matures

Would grow up to be his own unique person

There’s no current science that allows us to “recreate” a person in full by cloning—only their genetic body, not their mind or self.

No one said he was cloned.Instead,d notion was that he died n a doube wit similar resemblance was put in his place.

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by pointblank247(m): 7:00am On Jul 22, 2025

APOPTOSIS:
The first question such people should reflect on, is ..
Which world renowned scientist would want to go through the stress of cloning an overwhelmingly incompetent person who lacked human feelings? 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

Nobody said that anybody was cloned. Body double is it.

Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Brandosky: 7:34am On Jul 22, 2025

Finquas:
I think what is discussed is a human double..not cloning.. Maybe u should educate us on if a human double can behave like the original version

A man double is not possible. Please stop this dump narrative. Is very embarrassing.
Even powerful leaders like stalin, saddam who used double only used it for some minutes or few hours. In those cases, they were not allowed to speak. They even wear mask or undergo some surgery.
It is practically impossible today to produce a double of Buhari that would last for so many years.
The closest to this, is if muhammadu buhari had an identical twince we were never aware of .
Trust me, is all fake news

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Re: Powerful Messages To Those Who Believe Buhari Was Cloned by Brandosky: 7:38am On Jul 22, 2025

APOPTOSIS:
The first question such people should reflect on, is ..
Which world renowned scientist would want to go through the stress of cloning an overwhelmingly incompetent person who lacked human feelings? 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

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