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Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lioness5280(f): 10:01pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
They worked mostly on plantations picking cottons
Which was the building block of that economy that now attracted you there wink

And they also worked in building the rail system and most of the infrastructure as well . Let's not be selective out of bias wink grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lioness5280(f): 10:04pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I hate it when they take no responsibility fir their own problems and looking for who to blame. They blame the whites, blame the Hispanics, blame immigrants and now blame Nigerians in diaspora.

SSame wa I see SAs blame immigrants for their problems whole their police collect bribes and loot immigrants shops. I have a video of these that I can show you if you want.
I bought two houses within my first three years abroad while lots of black Americans sit on their lazy asses relying on handouts from the government. I am able to save a cash of about $250,000 in accounts while these people are busy complaining. I worked my butt off in the cold to get where I am today and do not look down or condescend to anyone.
Now, I will never join in any BLM movement, never speak out when a black American is being oppressed. I am now all for my country and no one else.
@the bolded ...like the Igbos who demand leadership roles all over Nigeria and blame fellow Nigerians and their host communities for not handing them those positions instead of competing like other tribes ? grin grin grin grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 1:02am On Jul 17, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
They worked mostly on plantations picking cottons
lol, you think so, i will advice you to pick a book on african american history
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 1:06am On Jul 17, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Meaning you have no verifyable source for your statisand I am supposed to accept them as facts. Ok I understand.
really the internet is there for you. i am sure you are suprised about the info because you think they are poor. African americans are the richest blacks in the black world.

if you want source, type this on goggle( The state of Black consumers: An opportunity for growth) by a world renowned consulting firm Mckinskey and co)
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by YelpforHelpCSAP: 9:05pm On Jul 18, 2025
Why are you using alternate handles to keep a thread ? It is the same person behind each Moniker.

Nice discourse though!

This is what nairaland used to be.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 1:15am On Jul 19, 2025
YelpforHelpCSAP:
Why are you using alternate handles to keep a thread ? It is the same person behind each Moniker.

Nice discourse though!

This is what nairaland used to be.
Because I am getting paid to open threads right?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by YelpforHelpCSAP:
Nnamdipapa:
Because I am getting paid to open threads right?
Yeah right!


Go back and check where you used Nnamdipapa to quote another Nnamdipapa and you threw a rebuttal of what one of the other handles, the female actually, would have said. Besides, the writing style, tune, semantics, delivery obviously screams same person !
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 4:27pm On Jul 19, 2025
YelpforHelpCSAP:
Yeah right!


Go back and check where you used Nnamdipapa to quote another Nnamdipapa and you threw a rebuttal of what one of the other handles, the female actually,who have said. Besides, the writing style, tune, semantics, delivery obviously screams same person !
Can you quote that so I can know what you are talking. I don't have the time.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by SoaringLife01: 7:09pm On Jul 19, 2025
Lionessza6:
It is a good question though. I ask this everytime I hear African migrants claim to be more hardworking than black SA grin grin. Hardworking in what, when they have never built any country to match SA,do they know what we went through during the building of this country? Nope!. They must show us their hardwork grin. And of course,currently, if you listed the most productive countries in Africa, you'll find the lazy people country up there and theirs down there.

So it's a very good question. You're successful in environments built on the sweat of others only ?. Because the ground work for black immigrants in USA was laid down by the Black Americans. And that's a fact. So you can never get credit for it. 💁‍♂️
This SA lady, you just dey show yourself for our forum.Nigeria greatly helped Black South Africans during the apartheid. The development South Africa is enjoying today is GREATLY BUILT BY THE WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS( AFRIKANERS ).
Nigeria in her hey days was SOLELY BUILT BY NIGERIANS, 100% BLACK.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by SoaringLife01: 7:17pm On Jul 19, 2025
I think it is Black Americans with inferiority complex that are spearheading this FBA yeye stuff.
An average Black American acknowledge that his/her ancestors were forcefully taken from Africa. Those in Cuba , Barbados, Belize etc are trying to connect back to the land of their forebears( Africa).While some delusional Black Americans are saying that their ancestors have no roots in Africa.
Guy , leave them make dem live for their Ekpaish paradise.
The Blacks in India( Siddhis) are also vocal of their African roots as well.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 8:41pm On Jul 19, 2025
SoaringLife01:
I think it is Black Americans with inferiority complex that are spearheading this FBA yeye stuff.
An average Black American acknowledge that his/her ancestors were forcefully taken from Africa. Those in Cuba , Barbados, Belize etc are trying to connect back to the land of their forebears( Africa).While some delusional Black Americans are saying that their ancestors have no roots in Africa.
Guy , leave them make dem live for their Ekpaish paradise.
The Blacks in India( Siddhis) are also vocal of their African roots as well.
I think it is inferiority complex a result of racism and slavery history. They claim to have existed before African countries and that Africans in diaspora are misappropriating their cultures.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 8:45pm On Jul 19, 2025
SoaringLife01:
This SA lady, you just dey show yourself for our forum.Nigeria greatly helped Black South Africans during the apartheid. The development South Africa is enjoying today is GREATLY BUILT BY THE WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS( AFRIKANERS ).
Nigeria in her hey days was SOLELY BUILT BY NIGERIANS, 100% BLACK.
I realized its a waste of time engaging most South Africans in a rational conversation, she would not even address the subject of discussion. They are raised from very little to hate.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold: 12:28am On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I realized its a waste of time engaging most South Africans in a rational conversation, she would not even address the subject of discussion. They are raised from very little to hate.
That's how we also feel about you, by the way. There's nothing rational about you lots, stop grandstanding
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 12:38am On Jul 20, 2025
KingCold:
That's how we also feel about you, by the way. There's nothing rational about you lots, stop grandstanding
Nope, you don't. Reason you lot are on NL trolling.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold: 12:46am On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Nope, you don't. Reason you lot are on NL trolling.
Of course, you're always these helpless victims who can do no wrong? .. Me and other South Africans are always reacting to your insults on this forum so please, the victim card won't work with me..
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 12:54am On Jul 20, 2025
KingCold:
Of course, you're always these helpless victims who can do no wrong? .. Me and other South Africans are always reacting to your insults on this forum so please, the victim card won't work with me..
Can you go back and see if I have ever insulted any South African? I bet you lots insults Nigerians every single day on your forums, same way you insult Zimbabweans all the time and rest of Africa.

You prétend to be reacting to imaginary insults. Your lady was derailinhlg my thread and trying to make it a South Africa verson Nigerian thread as you people always do reason I stopped responding to her.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold: 12:58am On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Can you go back and see if I have ever insulted any South African? I bet you lots insults Nigerians every single day on your forums, same way you insult Zimbabweans all the time and rest of Africa.

You prétend to be reacting to imaginary insults. Your lady was derailinhlg my thread and trying to make it a South Africa verson Nigerian thread as you people always do, reason I stopped responding to her.
Nope, I'm talking about the average Nigerian on this forum.. You be talking about your issues, but name-dropping South Africans left, right, and center and saying negative things about us, don't expect us to be quiet here..

As for the Zimbabweans, if you knew half of the things they get up to in SA, you wouldn't be in even trying to speak for them..
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lioness5280(f): 11:37am On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I realized its a waste of time engaging most South Africans in a rational conversation, she would not even address the subject of discussion. They are raised from very little to hate.
LMAO grin cheesy cheesy. You engaged me for so long until I stopped playing with you and brought out the big guns ( logic) something you lots fear more than dying in the Sahara desert grin grin.

Run run run grin grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lioness5280(f): 11:47am On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I think it is inferiority complex a result of racism and slavery history. They claim to have existed before African countries and that Africans in diaspora are misappropriating their cultures.
Inferiority complex is when one leaves a free black nation with no war and risks dying from starvation and dehydration in the Sahara desert or drowning in the Mediterranean Sea all in a bid to go and live on their knees in a white man's country🤮.

I'd describe the FBA issue as confusion, given that they do have Native American ancestry and that there were " black " tribes among the Native Americans before African slaves were shipped there . And no, Columbus didn't discover shyt. grin grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lionessza6(f): 12:44pm On Jul 20, 2025
SoaringLife01:
This SA lady, you just dey show yourself for our forum.Nigeria greatly helped Black South Africans during the apartheid. The development South Africa is enjoying today is GREATLY BUILT BY THE WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS( AFRIKANERS ).
Nigeria in her hey days was SOLELY BUILT BY NIGERIANS, 100% BLACK.
@the bolded ,yes with$ 6 bill in another version and $1 bill in another grin grin...all versions ofcourse only appear in Nigerian media grin grin.

How about your students donating their lunch boxes to us and their okrikra boxers to our sons? grin grin grin grin.

You're a special kind of people grin

Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold:
SoaringLife01:
This SA lady, you just dey show yourself for our forum.Nigeria greatly helped Black South Africans during the apartheid. The development South Africa is enjoying today is GREATLY BUILT BY THE WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS( AFRIKANERS ).
Nigeria in her hey days was SOLELY BUILT BY NIGERIANS, 100% BLACK.
The way you people reason never ceases to amaze me. What's the racial composition of Nigeria, boss?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by seppuku: 8:24pm On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
My concern is black Americans trying to twist and rewrite history by claiming their forefathers were never from Africa. They are now claiming to be Foundational Black Americans with the status of Native Americans.
It affects me because I am an of African kn diaspora.
Hey Nnamdi, The phenomena you mentioned above started in the late 60's and has progressed to what you have today circulating in the black community in America. FBO or ADOs which are two of the most recent iterations of the identity crisis AA sometimes have originate from many doctrines that emanated in the 60's from the Black Moor movement championed by Nobe Dru Ali, to the NOI-Nation of Islam headed by Elijah Mohammed, some factions of the black panther party to the new age Black Hebrew Israelites and the likes.

If you study each of the sects mentioned above, all them have fashioned a history outside of the West African origin and created origins that are not tied to African.

FBO and ADO's are just a new iteration of this that has become popular especially for a lot of Gen Z'ers. A way of distinguishing or delineating themselves from a continent that is not doing too well and has little to offer.

I would glad to discuss this with you further because I have personally debated some of these individuals in the past.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by seppuku: 8:27pm On Jul 20, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I realized its a waste of time engaging most South Africans in a rational conversation, she would not even address the subject of discussion. They are raised from very little to hate.
lol
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by seppuku:
motymop:
To be me black Americans forefathers are long gone from Africa.

Why do they not ask White Europeans about their own ancestry, they also did not just appear in America, they came from Europe.

I think trying to tell them they are from Africa is trying strip them of their American identity.

They are not Africans but Americans, they have no culture similar to ours and we do not eat or behave similarly.
I would add to the above that identity comes in different layers. There is the genetic/biological, the social, the cultural and I dare say the economical.

It is without a doubt that AA share biological and some cultural affinities to Africans with a greater that 75% DNA match with West and central African peoples when they are tested.

It is also true they do not share a large amount of culture with Africans due the 400+ years of separation. This includes diasporans in central and South Americans. The Caribbeans with the closest in culture to the Africans because they were pretty much allowed to retain some cultural traits brought over from the mother continent.

There are however a greater number of AA's that are curious to make those reconnections more so than any amount of FBA and ADOS.

All I can say is that when you put that Afro beats or Amapiano on that African spirit from the ancestors cannot resist lol.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by SoaringLife01: 2:39pm On Jul 22, 2025
KingCold:
The way you people reason never ceases to amaze me. What's the racial composition of Nigeria, boss?
You already know the answer,abi we have indigenous white folks in Nigeria?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold: 2:57pm On Jul 22, 2025
SoaringLife01:
You already know the answer,abi we have indigenous white folks in Nigeria?
it's a negligible 000,01. You're essentially an all-black country bruv
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