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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:09am On Jul 21, 2025 |
From the racism, to the Nazism, to openly admitting they are autocrats, to aligning with people who say they don't want you in the country, to hating immigrants while your parents are immigrants, this is what it is like discussing with some of the people in this thread. Watching this it is clear America is heading into some dangerous waters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-WJN3L5eo |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:24am On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibeme:Yet there have been more members of the press killed in this conflict than all conflicts combined since WW2. But I guess you never came across this data. If you have, did your research it, or did you dismiss it like you are doing the others? There have been more humanitarian aid volunteers killed in this conflict than in all conflicts combined since WW2. We watched the events of World Central Kitchen staff targeted by drones and killed. Humanitarian aid workers moving in a convoy, in a deconflicted zone, coordinates shared prior with the IDF, world kitchen central logo boldly and visibly inscribed on the vehicles' roof tops, for clear identification...... all standard protocols observed. Follow main-steam media, and all you see is BS story that the vehicles were struck in what was considered a misidentification. This was after they first blamed Hamas for this incident. But switch to alternative reporting and you see the evil that unfolded in what can only be described as a targeted attack to prevent aid from distributed to Gaza. The convoy was followed by the drones for 1.8km. The evil in this tragic attack alone, blows the nonsense you are typing completely off the hinges. The problem with your data is your source. Filtered source from Israeli-owned apparatus. If you really want to feed your conscience, then make an effort to get out of your bubble and be informed. You wan dey tell me Israeli State no dey target civilians. Na today? The victims of Sabra and Shatila still remember. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:35am On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:Did you keep your brain in the ice box? It's because of useless questions like this I wrote what I wrote. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:37am On Jul 21, 2025 |
IjeBos:Even when the tyrant predator trump dies, these hateful people will still be among us. God help us. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibeme: 9:55am On Jul 21, 2025 |
nateevs:Which Press and volunteers are those? The HAMAS members with UNRWA pass? When you start looking for news from "alternative news sources", just know you have gone down rabbit hole like the typical maga conspiracy theorist. When you are finished, you can tell me about civilians casualties in any urban guerilla conflict that compare disfavourably with the Gaza one. I deal with stats not emotions |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:57am On Jul 21, 2025 |
nateevs:These folks actually disparage reports from the UN and humanitarian organizations who are actually rendering aid to the Gaza victims but rather scramble for reports that says otherwise.. how can someone completely blame Hamas for truncating aid access whilst absolutely absolving Isreal and the IDF. Thats insanity. So the UN, EU leaders are all mad for suggesting or even claiming that a genocide is happening in Palestine. I have left our own Nigerian brothers to their conscience. Like I said if they had their relatives (children, parents, girl friends, wives, close friends) in Palestine they won't be down playing the mayhem happening in that region. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibeme: 10:43am On Jul 21, 2025 |
nateevs:Another propaganda. Now it's obvious why you shun mainstream media to get your propaganda straight from the terrorists mouth Why are there no BBC, Reuters, CNN journalists killed who follow war protocols It's always Al Aqsa TV (Hamas run television) or Quds Network (Terrorist TV) being killed. Hamas members, sympathisers and enablers who produce press pass after death in furtherance of the agenda of accusing Israel of war crimes I have no tears for your terrorist Hamas and Bolo Haram TV journalists who embed themselves in Hamas and get kpaid, nor the ones actively looking to martyr themselves by not following press proptcols. Cry me a river.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:05am On Jul 21, 2025*. Modified: 11:22am On Jul 21, 2025 |
Obrigardo:You know it's difficult to make you see sense. So a president has full absolute immunity , as defined in official duties. Obama refused what the experts said and ordered subversion , based on his fetlings. There is no immunity in that. Some, such as former CIA Director John Brennan and fired FBI Director James Comey, are already being investigated. James Clapper and Barack Obama should be next, for knowingly politicizing and weaponizing the intelligence to hamstring Donald Trump. The intelligence community was adamant that Moscow couldn’t interfere in our elections . Then, Obama ordered Clapper to draft a new intelligence report, which used the Steele Dossier as its foundation. That document, a Clinton campaign-funded opposition research project, is at the heart of this operation. Even Clapper didn’t believe it, but reportedly silenced any analyst who raised objections He was told Russians didn't affect elections. He ordered the Intelligence Community to declare otherwise. This led directly to Mueller inquisition. Since you are saying President has absolute immunity , Trump can order Obama be executed by Team Seal Six as an enemy combatant. Democrats cant think beyond their noses. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:38am On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibeme:Hamas had released names of the dead earlier in the war. We all know Mossad has infiltrated the SIM card numbers of every Gazan cellphone in use. It's very easy to do it if a govt agency wants to. Setup dummy Base Stations with an output power greater than the nearest BTS. So a Man in the Middle Attack . So when Hamas released names of the dead women and innocent killed IDF checked them against their current database. Those dead Gazan terrorists were making calls from their graves. In other words everything you hear from Hamas is total lies. Don't forget Pallywood is bigger than Bollywood and Nollywood. We disagree on a lot but on this you are a spot on. That's what discussions should be about, agree to disagree. Hold your ground and convictions. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibeme: 12:27pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:Nateevs is the biggest Pallywood fan, always regurgitating Pallywood scripts |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:59pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:There is no UN aid to the Palestinians. Aid is delivered by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation set up by the US and Israel to stop Hamas controlling the flow of aid where they make billions and smuggle weapons GHF delivery sites are constantly attacked by Hamas and fed to media as IDF attacks. GHF constantly debunks these lies and media later retract their lies fed from the Hamas Health Ministry You are just a victim of Pallywood propaganda I have never seen where someone feeding you daily to keep you alive is accused of genocide
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:26pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Feedthenation. The ODNI oversees intelligence consolidation across every IC agency. Previously if z Trump requested info from CIA it would have to pass thru unelected bureaucracy before he got what they thought he should see. Tulsi Ganbard has powers to request everything from many agency and brief him. That's one reason the Senate intelligence committee wants to control her powers. Ratcliff as head of DNI before just didn't bother to look for Obama PDB for instance. Tulsi Gabbard has said she is releasing info on the mar a Lago raid in a few days time.. This is info within the intelligence community agencies. You can thank the democrats for giving Trump Tulsi. Let's wait and see who plotted what during that raid. I bet your hair will grey faster than that of the traitor Obama. Gina Haspel was London CIA chief which coordinated with Chris Steele. She was promoted to CIA head by Trump on recommendations by McConnell and Co because the CIA head has to pass Senate vetting. After her came Pompeii, who was another RINO out to protect the CIA from Russia gate. You can see hiwcs president us held hostage by the Senate when it comes to nominations. Matt Gaetz ring a bell? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:29pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:Adding to the definition of blood libel |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:32pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:You are not making any rational point. Ibime:The question is: Does he want to see the truth, or has he already reached his decision, and facts like this burn like the sun on the skin of a vampire. The war has been ongoing for almost 3 years 1. Hamas is claiming that there are 55,000 dead. 2. This figure includes people whom they have killed. 3. It also accounts for individuals who died of natural causes. 4. Among the deceased, there are approximately 25,000 to 30,000 Hamas fighters. 5. You have fighters who are between 15 to 18 years old and are regarded as children. 6. People whom Israel deliberately killed (this is common in all wars - Small numbers) 7. People whom they accidentally killed. (They even killed 3 of their people who were hostages that escaped.) War is riddled with chaos and confusion. You can't be throwing the word Genocide for a few thousand deaths in a confined space where enemy fighters blend in with the civilians. I have been asking, How is it that it is only this war that refugees are not allowed to go to safety. Israel has been asking for this, and the UN and Egypt are doing nothing about it. All these people want Palestinians to die, including Hamas. Israel will not stop operations because Hamas and people like you are complaining. In a war, the losing side surrenders so the bloodshed stops. In this war, the losing side rejoices when they see their people die so that others will ignorantly say genocide. So let's blame Israel for fighting a war Hamas started and won't surrender the Hostages? Let's blame Egypt for ignoring Humanitarian laws and let Gazans be between Israel and Hamas? Does this even sound rational? It took Hamas a few hours to kill more than 1000 Israelis. That is what a genocide looks like. Saying 55k after two and a half years is not deliberate killing. Numbers which include Natural deaths, deaths by Hamas, Hamas fighters, etc. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:36pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:I always ask a simple question. To qualify as a war crime how many active Hamas combatants should IDF kill vis-a-vis civilians. How many dead civilians should an army kill in a war in proportion to actual fighters. Zero, ten, ten thousand ? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:44pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Nateevs . You refuse to read Hamas charter that I asked you to. Here it is. ]I do believe you know what a charter is . T'was presented as a corporate mission statement to the voters in this case You expect Israel to make peace with Hamas. Bemeruca ibime |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:45pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:It is hard to answer when you have wars that have resulted in the deaths of millions of people. If the IDF is deliberately killing, the numbers should be around 500k by now. It took Hamas hours to kill more than one thousand without air strikes in a place that is not densely populated. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:03pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:Find in the link. UN itself is giving aid.. except the UN itself is lying and you are the only true source of good information... https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/05/1163501 UN and it's affiliates are providing aid to victims.. Youre fully soaked in the IDF propaganda. You are not neutral. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:08pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:so what numbers determine what a genocide is? Can you stipulate a number from all definitions that fully determines what should be decided as a genocide or not. Whats the threshold in numbers? Please put it down here.. Let's go with numbers.. Thank you.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:13pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:Hamas ragtag militia killed 1400 in 4hrs and they think if IDF with all their weaponry has genocidal intent it will not wipe out all of Gaza in 4 weeks? But we are counting 50K in 20months as genocide |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:14pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:Wow..just wow.. Hamas killed 1k plus. ISREAL has killed tens of thousands.. but one killing is better than the other to you.. Infact the one who has sluttered tens of thousands is righteous than the one who killed a thousand. One bad one good.. I clap for you. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:20pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:UN has been lying and working with Hamas. Which location setup today by the UN to distribute food in Gaza. Tell me You have been spreading terrorists propaganda. If Israel is committing genocide and Hamas and the Palestinians are worried they will be wiped out, why are they still fighting and holding to the Hostages? You know Israel cannot kill people if they have surrendered and returned what they took right? The UN is complicit in this crisis. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 2:20pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:If you read your link, it says UN has been stopped from providing AID (due to abuse by Hamas) for 3 months and only 5 trucks allowed in US and Israel has been feeding the Palestinians One of the conditions Hamas put forward for ceasefire is that GHF stops providing the aid and return to UN Aid so they can hijack it again and abuse the system, use it to make money by selling the food and smuggle weapons Which is why they keep attacking GHF aid lines You are dealing with terrorists here |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:21pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:Qualify hours = hamas and 2.5 years = Israel. How do you miss this? I am sure it is deliberate. You gast to be open minded |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:22pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
nateevs:I can't stand such dishonest people who have to lie to themselves in order to justify their beliefs. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:25pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:He is so Uninformed. War is not chuck Norris shooting his way through a jungle. Even Biden pull out of Afghanistan resulted to the bombing of a family which has nothing to do with anything. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:27pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:Hundreds of names Ibi! Most of us read those figures with a ± at least 5-10% in mind, and expect revisions. Its like when they say "Six million Jewish people |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:33pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibeme:So, when Israel is expropriating Land in the West Bank they are not deliberately targeting civilians? |
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