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raumdeuter:
Hamas ragtag militia killed 1400 in 4hrs and they think if IDF with all their weaponry has genocidal intent it will not wipe out all of Gaza in 4 weeks?

But we are counting 50K in 20months as genocide

As in, inside the 50k
You have natural deaths
People killed by hamas,
Hamas fighters

And inflated number if deaths

But its genocide

benalvino3:
As in, inside the 50k
You have natural deaths
People killed by hamas,
Hamas fighters

And inflated number if deaths

But its genocide

That is even if we concede the 50k numbers which is inflated by Hamas. Ask any of them that what would they have done in Israel shoes if they face the type of death cult that Hamas is and watch their responses

raumdeuter:
That is even if we concede the 50k numbers which is inflated by Hamas. Ask any of them that what would they have done in Israel shoes if they face the type of death cult that Hamas is and watch their responses

I keep telling them they are saying all these because they are not running to a bomb shelter every 2 hours.

Lebanon is peaceful since Hezbollah surrendered. Israel invaded Lebanon and decimated Hezbollah fighters that were not hiding behind civilians.

How many civilians died there? The unfortunate ones that were living in close proximity to a high profile terrorists.

bayelsaowei:
Wow..just wow..

Hamas killed 1k plus. ISREAL has killed tens of thousands.. but one killing is better than the other to you..

Infact the one who has sluttered tens of thousands is righteous than the one who killed a thousand.

One bad one good..

I clap for you.

Most of IDF dead are from booby trapped buildings, roadside IEDs remotely detonated and direct anti tank missiles.
Hamas fighters walk along the streets in civilian gear , duck into the nearest armoury , shoot at patrol troops then duck again into the 300 mile plus tunnel network.
That's what Hezbollah had planned for IDF besides a barrage of tickets and missiles. We know how that went

Shooting rockets tipped with love letters. chocolates, candy and balloons instead of explosives into Israel territory is not a war crime to you.
Listen to yourself.

budaatum:
Hundreds of names Ibi! Most of us read those figures with a ± at least 5-10% in mind, and expect revisions.

Its like when they say "Six million Jewish people died were murdered in the Holocaust". We expect that figure to have been rounded up or down to the nearest million.

Good luck believing anything from Hamas. Hamas provide the data, Hamas correct the data. Hamas tell you most journalists have been killed and they are all work for Hamas TV or are alive

Only a fowl takes data or news from a terrorist who shoot their own people queuing for food sef for propaganda purposes

Ibeme:
Why are there no BBC, Reuters, CNN journalists killed who follow war protocols

Because they are not allowed by Israel to go report in Gaza!

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/bbcs-bowen-israel-bans-journalists-from-gaza-because-theres-stuff-they-dont-want-us-to-see/

raumdeuter:
That is even if we concede the 50k numbers which is inflated by Hamas. Ask any of them that what would they have done in Israel shoes if they face the type of death cult that Hamas is and watch their responses

https://www.timesofisrael.com/second-intifada-icon-muhammad-al-dura-didnt-die-in-2010-shooting-israel-claims/

The fake death story that fueled the 2nd intifada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyWu_OdJmSk

Ibime, bemeruca.

Ibime:
Good luck believing anything from Hamas. Hamas provide the data, Hamas correct the data. Hamas tell you most journalists have been killed and they are all work for Hamas TV or are alive

Only a fowl takes data or news from a terrorist who shoot their own people queuing for food sef for propaganda purposes

Budaatum was encouraging this war years before it started when I was warning him.

I said people who can't defend themselves should always look for peace.

Journalists that were part of the massacre that happened in Israel. UN workers holding hostages.

raumdeuter:
That is even if we concede the 50k numbers which is inflated by Hamas. Ask any of them that what would they have done in Israel shoes if they face the type of death cult that Hamas is and watch their responses

To them Israel defending itself and fishing out Hamas is illegitimate so any death is illegitimate

They go to school but cannot reason materiality, data and logic.

bayelsaowei:
Find in the link. UN itself is giving aid.. except the UN itself is lying and you are the only true source of good information...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/05/1163501

UN and it's affiliates are providing aid to victims..

Youre fully soaked in the IDF propaganda. You are not neutral.

I was surprised he claims otherwise, but then, he agrees with the basilicos he never could agree with till now.

Ibime:
Good luck believing anything from Hamas. Hamas provide the data, Hamas correct the data. Hamas tell you most journalists have been killed and they are all work for Hamas TV or are alive

Only a fowl takes data or news from a terrorist who shoot their own people queuing for food sef for propaganda purposes

I do not have to take the fact foreign journalists are barred from Gaza from Hamas, when every time BBC reports on Gaza they mention Israel doesn't allow them in there, and numerous journalists are asking to be let in to see for themselves.

For more than 20 months, Israeli authorities have barred foreign journalists from entering the Gaza Strip.

https://rsf.org/en/gaza-rsf-cpj-and-over-130-media-outlets-call-opening-strip-foreign-journalists-and-protecting

budaatum:
Because they are not allowed by Israel to go report in Gaza!

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/bbcs-bowen-israel-bans-journalists-from-gaza-because-theres-stuff-they-dont-want-us-to-see/

They all have local journalists in Gaza who follow their war reporting protocols, withdraw from areas of heavy fighting, follow safe corridors etc

Not Hamas members with camera phone standing next to Hamas fighters shooting at IDF and collect airstrike

Those journalists must be the most foolish journalists in the world, or in bed with terrorists. Infact they work for Hamas so are terrorists.

There are wars where 3 million people die like Vietnam and only a handful of journalists. So what are these journalists doing, either low IQ or standing next to the terrorists

Obrigardo.

Noone is above the law.

What truth and facts will it take to break you? You are impervious to reason. Tough nut to crack... On the negative scale.

budaatum:
I do not have to take the fact foreign journalists are barred from Gaza from Hamas, when every time BBC reports on Gaza they mention Israel doesn't allow them in there, and numerous journalists are asking to be let in to see for themselves.

They all have local journalists who are not dying. Only Al Aqsa (Hamas owned) journalists are dying for the most part. 🤡 shyt

Ibime:
To them Israel defending itself and fishing out Hamas is illegitimate so any death is illegitimate

They go to school but cannot reason materiality, data and logic.

So if Israel fishing out Hamas is illegitimate then what is Israel expected to do? Lie down and wait for when Hamas will kill them all? That is actually the end goal acceptable to them, The death and eradication of Israel just like Hamas wants

Per the bold, They can but they deliberately refuse to. Take away Israel from the news and apply the same scenario elsewhere and you will see their sense return and fully functional

benalvino3:
I said people who can't defend themselves should always look for peace.

I find it absurd you'd be asking me to seek peace with people who are chasing me out of my home and occupying it.

Its like asking you to seek peace with me who is constantly kicking your ass, or asking UK to seek peace with Hitler when German bombs were dropping on their heads, or even asking the Jews to seek peace with the Germans who were incinerating them!

benalvino3:
UN has been lying and working with Hamas. Which location setup today by the UN to distribute food in Gaza. Tell me

You have been spreading terrorists propaganda.

If Israel is committing genocide and Hamas and the Palestinians are worried they will be wiped out, why are they still fighting and holding to the Hostages?

You know Israel cannot kill people if they have surrendered and returned what they took right?

The UN is complicit in this crisis.

Shey ona don see? UN is lying and you are saying the truth?

Clap for yourself once more..

I'd leave you and the others with your conscience.

basilico:
I've been writing about the deep state actors who need to be throughly investigated. Kash Patel investigated Russiagate, his report was buried by FBI and was probably what they were looking for when they raided Melania's closet.
Kash Patel has a list of these bad actors, the Senate call it an enemy list and thus he should not be the FBI Director.
In other words any opinion you hear from anyone on this list is at best dubious and self serving.

Feedthenation. Remember these names. Above was my Jan 28th post

Ibime:
They all have local journalists in Gaza who follow their war reporting protocols, withdraw from areas of heavy fighting, follow safe corridors etc

BBC does not have local journalists in Gaza! They get there reports from people not trained to BBC standards, and that's why their reporting in Gaza is subject to so many revisions and errors.

"It is vital to bring people the truth about what is happening in Gaza. International journalists are not currently allowed into Gaza and we would welcome the support of the White House in our call for immediate access."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/bbc-statement-on-claims-made-about-gaza-reporting

But seriously! Have you always been this way and I just missed it?

raumdeuter:
So if Israel fishing out Hamas is illegitimate then what is Israel expected to do?

"Fishing out Hamas", is when you bomb Hamas, and not when you bomb a school or hospital without fishing out Hamas!

At the moment, Israel seems to be fishing out Palestinians, and that's why it is genocide.

raumdeuter:
So if Israel fishing out Hamas is illegitimate then what is Israel expected to do? Lie down and wait for when Hamas will kill them all? That is actually the end goal acceptable to them,

It is their end goal. That's why I call them out as the anteeseemites they are.

Most of these anteeseemites on the hard left have been purged even from Labour Party here in UK.

They will be disgusted at someone shouting Allahu Wackbar while beheading or shooting anyone indiscriminately but cheer when it happens to an Israeli

Watching ISIS videos killing civilians and Yazidis indiscriminately in 2014 let me know categorically what I will never support in this world.

Ibime:
They all have local journalists in Gaza who follow their war reporting protocols, withdraw from areas of heavy fighting, follow safe corridors etc

Not Hamas members with camera phone standing next to Hamas fighters shooting at IDF and collect airstrike

Those journalists must be the most foolish journalists in the world, or in bed with terrorists. Infact they work for Hamas so are terrorists.

There are wars where 3 million people die like Vietnam and only a handful of journalists. So what are these journalists doing, either low IQ or standing next to the terrorists

what sort of conclusion is this?

Are you people ok?

budaatum:
BBC does not have local journalists in Gaza! They get there reports from people not trained to BBC standards, and that's why their reporting in Gaza is subject to so many revisions and errors.



But seriously! Have you always been this way and I just missed it?

All media companies have independent productions and local journalists that shoot for them in Gaza. These ones don't die as much, na Hamas camera phone escorters dey die.

BBC even shot a documentary inside Gaza using a local production company about a child in warzone. Turns out the child was son of a Hamas official

bayelsaowei:
what sort of conclusion is this?

Are you people ok?

Very OK

Tell me why Hamas TV journalists are dying in large numbers if they are not low IQ or standing with terrorists

In warzone reporting, you either report from a demilitarised zone or embed yourself within an army a good distance from the front line where probability of harm has been checked. The commander is aware a journalist is with them and if situation changes rapidly, they are withdrawn to the back.

Al Aqsa TV (literally owned by Hamas and named after the destruction of Israel) journalists will be doing Guerilla journalism, ducking and diving with Hamas terrorists while they are under fire. Filming Israeli soldier positions and reporting the position to Hamas - reconnaissance posing with press pass. So you can call them low IQ or outright terrorists.

bayelsaowei:
Shey ona don see? UN is lying and you are saying the truth?

Clap for yourself once more..

I'd leave you and the others with your conscience.

Show us where UN is giving foods to gazans
They are humans, they are capable of lying.

Also, their workers were working with Hamas in taking hostages. All these are facts.

budaatum:
"Fishing out Hamas", is when you bomb Hamas, and not when you bomb a school or hospital without fishing out Hamas!
At the moment, Israel seems to be fishing out Palestinians, and that's why it is genocide.

Where is Hamas? Do you have a location of where they are based that Israel can target? When Hamas is hiding in a school or Hospital shooting rockets then what should Israel do

budaatum:
I find it absurd you'd be asking me to seek peace with people who are chasing me out of my home and occupying it.

Its like asking you to seek peace with me who is constantly kicking your ass, or asking UK to seek peace with Hitler when German bombs were dropping on their heads, or even asking the Jews to seek peace with the Germans who were incinerating them!

20% of Israel are Palestinian Arabs.

Who was chasing them out? When you start a war, you cause hatred and divide. And the consequences of war is loss of land. Ask Ukraine, they have lost lands. That is true to all wars. Westbank with settlers dispute did not attack Israel because Hamas is not leading the Westbank.

Ibime:
Very OK

Tell me why Hamas TV journalists are dying in large numbers if they are not low IQ or standing with terrorists

In warzone reporting, you either report from a demilitarised zone or embed yourself within an army a good distance from the front line where probability of harm has been checked. The commander is aware a journalist is with them and if situation changes rapidly, they are withdrawn to the back.

Al Aqsa TV (literally owned by Hamas and named after the destruction of Israel) journalists will be doing Guerilla journalism, ducking and diving with Hamas terrorists while they are under fire. Filming Israeli soldier positions and reporting the position to Hamas - reconnaissance posing with press pass. So you can call them low IQ or outright terrorists.

SMH

So we can conclude that the other journalists who are non Palestinians and that have died during this war are also low IQ or terrorists themselves?

Right ?

Ibime:
All media companies have independent productions and local journalists that shoot for them in Gaza. These ones don't die as much, na Hamas camera phone escorters dey die.

BBC even shot a documentary inside Gaza using a local production company about a child in warzone. Turns out the child was son of a Hamas official

A local production company is not BBC journalists!

The fact the documentary you mentioned did not meet BBC standards is evidence enough they are not BBC journalists!

The child son of Hamas was not a journalist. UK law does not allow BBC to hire kids. And the kid was not even reporting as a journalist, but as a narrator.

benalvino3:
Show us where UN is giving foods to gazans
They are humans, they are capable of lying.

Also, their workers were working with Hamas in taking hostages. All these are facts.

and your source isnt capable of lying?

So UN is lying right on their website.. and also it's affiliates and arms? You guys boldly claimed that the UN isnt sending any aid to Gaza.

I went to the very organizations website to show you that aid is being provided. And the next is that the UN is lying..infact they've not provided anything or funded aids to Gaza.

I'd leave you to your delusions..

bayelsaowei:
and your source isnt capable of lying?

So UN is lying right on their website.. and also it's affiliates and arms?

I'd leave you to your delusions..

The UNRWA that has been hiring Hamas members

Peter Hansen, the head of the UN Relief and Works Agency says some of its workers in the Mideast are members of Hamas, but Hansen says that's not a crime.

The agency provides aid to Palestinian refugees. Ottawa contributes about $10 million per year to the UNRWA.

Hansen's admission has raised the possibility that Canada is indirectly supporting Hamas, which Ottawa has put on a list of banned groups, making it a crime to support it.

The dispute began when military pictures emerged that Israel said showed a man putting a rocket into a UN vehicle. The UN says it's just a stretcher.

It illustrates Israel's suspicion that UNRWA is used as a front by militants.

That suspicion was fuelled by a CBC News interview with Hansen, who conceded some UNRWA employees are almost certainly members of Hamas. "I am sure there are Hamas members on the UNRWA payroll," he said. "And I don't see that as a crime."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-examining-contribution-to-un-agency-1.500892

benalvino3:
20% of Israel are Palestinian Arabs.

Who was chasing them out? When you start a war, you cause hatred and divide. And the consequences of war is loss of land. Ask Ukraine, they have lost lands. That is true to all wars. Westbank with settlers dispute did not attack Israel because Hamas is not leading the Westbank.

Israelis were chasing them out, and theres enough evidence for this for me to not feel the bother to further educate you.

When you chase me out of my house and occupy it, you have started a war with me because I am not a weakling like you are, and will fight for my property you stole even if you are more powerful than me.

If you are strong Russia and you invade my weak Ukraine, I will fight you, because if I don't you'd convert my Ukraine to your Russia.

That's what weak Britain did when strong Germany tried to invade. They didn't just roll over and capitulate over because of Germany's strength, but "we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be".