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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:49pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:so quick to spew and reel out all these jargons, but also zealous to defend Trump and his involvement with Epstein.. This your work go hard oo.. ![]() They should go ahead and arrest Obama..let them quit this jamboree and go ahead with apprehending Obama.. Elon musk has helped us shake the Epstein table.. . Let Trum go ahead and arrest our black man.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:52pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:I never made any standards. Just because you shout genocide does not mean it's genocide. Israel is not going house to house, rounding people up and executing them. You are here supporting Hamas that did exactly that. Tell Egypt and UN to open up the desert for people to build tents. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:57pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:i am not the only one shouting genocide.. There are lots and lots of folks in the world who share same sentiment. But we will follow your standard and wait till it exceeds 500k+.. ![]() Happy again now ? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:12pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Meanwhile see this kolo man below.. it may be fake news though.. since it is from NBCnews.. ..
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:52pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:Land before 1948 was bought and land after 1948 was taken following a genocide attempt by the Palestinians. Infact it was 4 months before the Israelis could get organised enough to fight them back and throw them out |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:57pm On Jul 21, 2025*. Modified: 10:23pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:It's not just one person who believes that the Earth is flat; millions of people hold that belief. Does that make them right? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:59pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:Like I said you are ignorant of history Nigeria has not thrown me off my land and my village, I am just part of Nigeria though I may prefer not to be. Same way the Palestinians were not thrown off their land, they were just not happy with the administrative centre where they were placed. I as an Ijaw am no different from the Bedouins, Kurds, Alawites, Yorubas, Yazidis, Igbo, Wolof, Igalas, Efik or the Palestinians. We've all been placed in countries with administrative centres that may not be to our taste. We still have our land, but we are not happy to be grouped in the country where we are grouped. It doesn't mean we go around trying to commit genocide like the Palestinians did on finding out their grouping. And if we FA we would FO and get thrown off our land for being a security threat just like the Palestinians. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:02pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:---FBI releases records on MLK Jr.'s assassination---hopefully the full Epstein files will be released soon---as part of Felon 47's campaign promises--- https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-releases-fbi-records-mlk-jrs-assassination/story?id=123938278 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:24pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:Keep ignoring the evidence while trying to convince yourself you are not the ignorant one here. The international community considers Israeli settlements to be illegal under international law,[9][10][11][12] but Israel disputes this.[13][14][15][16] In 2024, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found in an advisory opinion that Israel's occupation was illegal and ruled that Israel had "an obligation to cease immediately all new settlement activities and to evacuate all settlers" from the occupied territories.[17] The expansion of settlements often involves the confiscation of Palestinian land and resources, leading to displacement of Palestinian communities and creating a source of tension and conflict. Settlements are often protected by the Israeli military and are frequently flashpoints for violence against Palestinians. Furthermore, the presence of settlements and Jewish-only bypass roads creates a fragmented Palestinian territory, seriously hindering economic development and freedom of movement for Palestinians.[18] |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:28pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:genocide is in the eyes of the beholder.. thats the juncture we have come to.. While you believe that Isreal is doing just fine without the intent of genocide, millions if not billions of other people around the world believe there is a genocide being carried out by isreal. Lets all live with our conscience on this one.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:29pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:You are still quoting Wikipedia and BBC? Aren't they all fake news? ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:39pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:I have been calling out the criminalities of the Obama machinery for years. His actions are tantamount toa coup , if not worse . I lack an extreme word to describe him. I'm open to your suggestions... Regarding Epstein, I have said everyone should be prosecuted. FBI ran cover for him. FBI is being exposed as the worst criminal organisation similar to the Sinaloa cartel. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 10:43pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
[b]Footage Of Obama Saying He's Not Doing Anything For Black American As He Helped Native Americans[/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3J9awSTrZ0 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:44pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:81 million voted for Biden too Autopen use started day one. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:47pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:Like I said, partionimg in 1948 did not throw them off their land. Which part of genocide has consequences don't you understand? They fvkd around and found out, you are just bringing the found out phase as evidence. No be who first throw punch suppose cry the most.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:07pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:. Only Arabs are allowed to colonize land. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:10pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
basilico:wetin be this? ![]() What did you just write.. please repost. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:11pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:So, you do not see the UN resolution you posted there as the first throw of a punch of the land grab from those who lived there before the resolution? I can just about hear you justifying the masacre of your own Ijaw people too, because of oil. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:11pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Ibime:Add that they lost. The Arab army had told them to clear out so they they could drive the Jews to the sea. Those who moved out and those who were displaced in the ensuring wars were called Palestinian Arabs. Russia helped them coin the Palestinian identity circa 1964 distinct from the Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria Iraq etc Arabs. They demand as right to return which is logical in a true sense.To live amongst the same people they wanted exterminated, and still want them wiped off today. Israel partners for peace. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:15pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:I am rather surprised he hasn't said they are, but he'd then have to claim the wikipedia report of the massacre of the Ijaw people is fake news too. Or perhaps he'd argue they deserved it because they threw the first punch by murdering 12 policemen. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:17pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
This was clearly elder abuse. I'm calling for Jill Biden to be charged Dogs are treated better. Deer in the headlights . Ouch.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:22pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:So your problem is Israel right to exist in the first case? My post was deleted , had asked you whether UN should pass a resolution to give Palestinians a right to murder any Jew they cone across. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:22pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:What has Israel done to minimize civilian casualties: 1. Issuing Warnings and Evacuation Notices. - Dropping leaflets, sending text messages, making automated and live phone calls 2. Distributing evacuation maps and urban warfare graphics - Conducting daily four-hour pauses for civilian evacuation 3. Use of Precision-Guided Munitions - Employing precision-guided munitions like Iron Sting Using smaller bombs for targeted strikes 4. Roof-Knocking Technique - Dropping small munitions on building roofs to warn civilians 5. Humanitarian Aid Facilitation - Delivering over 900,000 metric tons of aid (food, water, medical supplies, shelter equipment) Constructing a new road near Kerem Shalom for 200–240 daily aid trucks 6. Intelligence and Situational Awareness -Using control centers to monitor civilian locations Gathering data on population density and civilian infrastructure 7. Operational Adaptations - Deploying ground troops to reduce reliance on airstrikes Exercising tactical patience and surveillance to detect civilians what has Hamas done to maximize casualties: 1. Using Civilians as Human Shields: - Placing rocket launchers, weapons, and command centers in or near civilian infrastructure, such as schools, hospitals, mosques, and residential buildings. - Operating military activities from densely populated areas, increasing the risk of civilian casualties during Israeli retaliatory strikes. 2. Blocking Civilian Evacuations: Actively preventing civilians from evacuating combat zones by blocking routes and issuing counterorders to stay, despite Israeli warnings to leave. 3. Storing Weapons in Civilian Areas: - Hiding weapons, explosives, and rockets in civilian structures like homes, schools, and hospitals, making these sites military targets. 4. Firing Rockets from Populated Areas: - Launching rockets from densely populated neighborhoods, such as Beit Lahiyah, knowing misfires or Israeli counterstrikes could harm civilians. 5. Using Tunnels for Military Purposes Only: - Building extensive tunnel networks (e.g., “the Metro”) for military operations and leadership protection, but not for civilian shelters. 6. Inflating Casualty Figures: - Manipulating casualty data through the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry to exaggerate civilian deaths, particularly of women and children, to gain international sympathy and pressure Israel. 7. Advising Misrepresentation of Casualties: - Issuing guidelines to describe all casualties as “innocent civilians,” even when they include combatants, to shape public perception. 8. Holding Hostages in Civilian Areas: - Keeping hostages in civilian homes and populated areas rather than isolated locations, increasing the risk of civilian casualties during rescue operations. 9. Misfired Rockets Harming Civilians: - Launching rockets that misfire and land within Gaza, causing civilian casualties, such as the Al-Ahli Hospital incident attributed to Palestinian Islamic Jihad. 10. Strategic Use of Civilian Deaths for Propaganda: - Deliberately increasing civilian casualties to provoke international outrage against Israel, as part of a strategy to gain political advantage. This is genocide in your eyes. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:25pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:The UN resolution is not a throw of the punch because it is the agreement and law of Nations Palestine was never an independent country in its history so it cannot dictate how it will be constituted. It is a construct of the Ottomans, British and the United Nations. Just like we Nigerians didn't choose how we were constituted nor any other colonised country. The UN has laid the law, you want to genocide your neighbour, you done FAFO Infact almost all of the land is owned by Ottomans who brought in most of the Arabs as serfs from neighbouring countries to work the land in the previous century. Almost all of them have ancestral lands in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. The Jews bought most of their land from the Ottomans and would have bought more post 1948. The Arabs are there by common law i.e when you are working an Ottoman Lords land, you are allowed to settle a village on the outskirts. All of that to say nobody punched them and they cannot use force to dictate to UN their Governing structure anymore than Yazidis can dictate they don't want to be in Iraq, nor can Nigeria fight Cameroon over Bakassi that UN has given to Cameroon. They can only negotiate and when it's done, you get on with it, not try to genocide your neighbour. They would have been wildly rich and successful like the 20% Muslims in Israel are now, but they had to go the genocide route The sibling that throws the first punch receives little sympathy from the mother after receiving a beating in response. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:28pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3: ![]() Isreal has exterminated women and children.. Killed them..!!! All those long long grammar you dey write na straight from the isreali network.. Oboy believe what you believe to be genocide. I and billions of other people believe otherwise. Under no condition would I support the deliberate killings of innocent civilians.. Convince yourself about what's happening in Gaza. If it massages your conscience.. ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:29pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:Land grab from whom? Which state or government? The land in question was under colonial rule by various empires and was subsequently partitioned. No be so? You seem to have a different stance when it comes to the South Africans and the Afrikaners. You would argue that the South Africans are reclaiming what rightfully belongs to them, but when it comes to Israel, you suggest that the colonizers are the ones being robbed. Well done oh. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:30pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:Which war wey women and children need very die? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:30pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum: ![]() Oh they'll just have to select the news they want. Or maybe the Odi massacre was all a lie too ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:31pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:Oya na.. Lets sit down with our pop corns and watch the numbers rise like garri.. Isreal is doing a fantastic daddy loving job. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:32pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
benalvino3:The poor suffering Palestinians living in the world's largest open air prison have a right to resist the settlers occupation. Rockets have failed to ensure from the river to the sea because if the iron dome. The Wall has reduced suicide attacks to negligible incidents. Their only other option is invade and murder 1400 Israeli citizens including throwing babies in ovens. That's what bayelsaowei is not saying. |
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