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bayelsaowei:
Oya na..

Lets sit down with our pop corns and watch the numbers rise like garri..

Isreal is doing a fantastic daddy loving job.

Of course it will rise. Each day a bullet is fired, Hamas holds on to hostages will lead to a civilian dying. I have laid out what Hamas is doing to make the numbers rise, you don't seem to care.

Your problem is Israel.

basilico:
The poor suffering Palestinians living in the world's largest open air prison have a right to resist the settlers occupation. Rockets have failed to ensure from the river to the sea because if the iron dome. The Wall has reduced suicide attacks to negligible incidents. Their only other option is invade and murder 1400 Israeli citizens including throwing babies in ovens.

That's what bayelsaowei is not saying.

That's in the space of hours. But let's say genocide because Palestinians are being used as a bullet proof.

benalvino3:
Of course it will rise. Each day a bullet is fired, Hamas holds on to hostages will lead to a civilian dying. I have laid out what Hamas is doing to make the numbers rise, you don't seem to care.

Your problem is Israel.

my problem is both..

Youre absolving isreal of any trace of genocidal attacks.. thats where I have an issue.

But keep at it as we watch the numbers rise..

Remember the world rotates. One day it maybe our turn to experience same. Then we would maybe speak the same language..

bayelsaowei:
my problem is both..

Youre absolving isreal of any trace of genocidal attacks.. thats where I have an issue.

But keep at it as we watch the numbers rise..

Remember the world rotates. One day it maybe our turn to experience same. Then we would maybe speak the same language..

There is no genocide; there are civilian deaths and suffering. You should direct your anger at Hamas for laying the groundwork for all these events. Your outrage is misguided.

Do you think any of us, me, Ibime or basilico like we see? For years, I warned Palestinians to embrace peace. If they managed to inflict harm on Israel, chaos would ensue and they are going to lose everything they have built.

Na your pal budaatum that was encouraging them to fight, start a war when they know they can't defend themselves.

They have watched too many Vietnam War documentaries, and they thought one or two tunnels would help them win the war.

benalvino3:
Na your pal budaatum that was encouraging them to fight, start a war when they know they can't defend themselves.

Dude, stop with the lying. Say, buda bought them weapons to go fight war because buda is General Hamas.

benalvino3:
There is no genocide; there are civilian deaths and suffering. You should direct your anger at Hamas for laying the groundwork for all these events. Your outrage is misguided.

Do you think any of us, me, Ibime or basilico like we see? For years, I warned Palestinians to embrace peace. If they managed to inflict harm on Israel, chaos would ensue and they are going to lose everything they have built.

Na your pal budaatum that was encouraging them to fight, start a war when they know they can't defend themselves.

They have watched too many Vietnam War documentaries, and they thought one or two tunnels would help them win the war.

nope..

Thank you..

I have taken my stand.. and its against mass killings irrespective of the perpetrators..

budaatum:
Dude, stop with the lying. Say, buda bought them weapons to go fight war because buda is General Hamas.

You encouraged them to fight, not that you spoke with Hamas.
I said they should seek peace. You said they should fight

benalvino3:
You encouraged them to fight, not that you spoke with Hamas.
I said they should seek peace. You said they should fight

I did not just encourage them, stop with your lies.

buda and hamas sat in meetings and planned their attacks that buda paid for!

benalvino3:
You seem to have a different stance when it comes to the South Africans and the Afrikaners.

Really? Do tell. What is buda's stance on South Africans and the Afrikaners?

budaatum:
I did not just encourage them, stop with your lies.

buda and hamas sat in meetings and planned their attacks that buda paid for!

budaatum:
Hamas was created to oppose the occupation of Palestine by the Jews who were offered the land by the British, so I cant quite understand why the Palestinians should stop fighting those who are stealing their land first.

But I guess your lack of knowledge of history would make you claim an Israel that stopped existing was surrounded.

budaatum:
I bet your manifesto would be to drive me out or at least to hell or into my grave if I come and occupy the land your father inherited from your grandfather and that was passed down to you. And if someone divides your inherited land between us I bet you'd never agree and with your dying breath tell your child to continue the struggle. Or perhaps you are not like that, and would just say that's ok and live peacefully with me while I help myself to more of your land.

Below is some history. I posted it for benalvino2 but doubt he bothered and called you to interpret it to him. Enjoy.

benalvino2:
I don't know where you are getting your information from. Palestinians don't even want Israel to exist from the very first day the Israeli state was created.

Israel is or was surrounded by neighbors who pledge to exterminate them and some of them still hold that agenda while some of them are now in working terms with Israel.

I think the problem is Palestinians. If they could accept to live in harmony all this will stop. Palestinians was even crossing into Israel to work and get medical treatments before they started using those privileges to carry out suicide bombing. Israel had to build a wall.

First Palestinians should take back their country from the terrorists groups hamas who runs the country and come to the table and talk peace. Else this conflicts will continue. You cannot be teaching your kids hate... Someone already mentioned. When you do those kids will never see peace till they die.

You have to understand that you cannot fight a bully if you stand no chance of winning the fight. Give him your lunch and keep all your teeth. You can choose to fight and lose your lunch and your tooth.

The ones who choose not to fight are in parliament, living in Harmony in Israel.

basilico:
So your problem is Israel right to exist in the first case?

No, Israels existence is not my problem, as they, like all humans and Palestinians have a right to exist.

My problem is Israel's treatment of the people who exist on the land Israel now occupies. And I'd have had a problem if they were treating the people in Ararat or Fugu or Madagascar the way they are treating Palestinians.

benalvino3:
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Its good of you to recognise that Hamas listen to General buda and not you. It must be the millions in funding I send to Palestine that gives me that authority.

budaatum:
Its good of you to recognise that Hamas listen to General buda and not you. It must be the millions in funding I send to Palestine that gives me that authority.

As I said, it’s not as if you spoke with them. We are only analyzing the situations here. Your solution or opinion has led to destruction in Gaza. This is exactly what I predicted would happen.

and this was 4 years ago

Ibime:
I am countering a lie that Palestinians were fighting for their land by trying to genocide Jews upon announcement of partition in 1948 when partition did not take a single piece of land or village from any Palestinian.

But, you are still rationalizing colonialism.

The White House has removed the Wall Street Journal from the press pool for Trump's trip to Scotland after the paper published an alleged letter from Trump to Epstein.
Trump continues to do everything he can to try to distract and hide any information about his potential involvement with Jeffrey Epstein's criminal behavior.

But Kamala had a “weird” laugh and that’s worse than being a pdf file, am I right?

The Republican playbook. Cut the budget to publicly funded services, complain about it not working, get the media involved, and then call for the service’s removal to be privatized. The politicians get a nice kick back from the corporations that take over.

Now they’ll sell you information that you’re entitled to (courtesy of your taxes) for an additional $9.99 monthly subscription while your taxes fund more subsidies to the billionaires. And ediots will cheer as they pay more. This is what they mean by less govt.

Privatization would diminish a central role the federal government has played in weather forecasting since the 1800s, which experts say poses a particular harm for those facing financial strain who may not be able to afford commercial weather data.

The effort also reveals the difficulty that uber wealthy members of Trump’s Cabinet have in freeing themselves from conflicts, even if they have met the letter of federal ethics law.

“It’s the most insidious aspect of this: Are we really talking about making weather products available only to those who can afford it?

benalvino3:
As I said, it’s not as if you spoke with them. We are only analyzing the situations here. Your solution or opinion has led to destruction in Gaza. This is exactly what I predicted would happen.

and this was 4 years ago

Oh come on, do stop with the lies. You know very well that my opinion counts more than that. General buda and Hamas sat in a meeting and decided to go fight the Israelis who were stealing their land, then buda financed it all.

benalvino3:
You have to understand that you cannot fight a bully if you stand no chance of winning the fight. Give him your lunch and keep all your teeth. You can choose to fight and lose your lunch and your tooth.

The ones who choose not to fight are in parliament, living in Harmony in Israel.

This is what weak you would do, give up your lunch to the bully. If you were alive when Germany was bullying Europe, you'd roll over to save your teeth. Good thing though that not everyone is weak like you.

Some of value our freedom so much that we are willing to lose our teeth and our life for it and "shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old".

budaatum:
Oh come on, do stop with the lies. You know very well that my opinion counts more than that. General buda and Hamas sat in a meeting and decided to go fight the Israelis who were stealing their land, then buda financed it all.

What happens to the old adage. "To the winner go the spoils of war"
There have been resettlement of people throughout history. The Palestinians who moved out hoping the Arab armies use the same argument that they need to be restored to the land they once occupied. The Jews chased out of Europe were resettled to a land they were already settling in using the Zionist movement. The kibbutz was first established in 1910 with local Arabs laughing at the stupid Jews thinking they would cultivate the desert on a large scale. As soon as the desert started green,many Arabs flicked there looking for jobs
When the Arabs attacked them and lost , common sense dictated they lose any land from which they could launch attacks. The so called buffer zones. Golam heights come into play.
The Palestinians have been offered peace deasl which they rejected and started the intifada waves.
While you are pretending to look at it as land rivalry,there is the nakba thing.Thw humiliation of the Arab world in losing wars and land to Jews. Nakba has a masculine, cultural,historical and religious dimension

The Palestine issue is not just about land ,why would Iran expend so much money on an issue that doesn't affect them. Solidarity?

basilico:
Nakba has a masculine, cultural,historical and religious dimension

Don't you mind those Palestinians. They should get over the genocide inflicted on them by Israel. Instead they are listening to General buda who is funding them to fight back like they have not heard "To the winner go the spoils of war".

During the foundational events of the Nakba in 1948, approximately half of Palestine's predominantly Arab population, or around 750,000 people,[19] were expelled from their homes or made to flee through various violent means, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of the State of Israel, by its military. Dozens of massacres targeted Palestinian Arabs and over 500 Arab-majority towns, villages, and urban neighborhoods were depopulated.[20] Many of the settlements were either completely destroyed or repopulated by Jews and given new Hebrew names.[20][21] Israel employed biological warfare against Palestinians by poisoning village wells. By the end of the war, 78% of the total land area of the former Mandatory Palestine was controlled by Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

budaatum:
Don't you mind those Palestinians. They should get over the genocide inflicted on them by Israel. Instead they are listening to General buda who is funding them to fight back like they have not heard "To the winner go the spoils of war".

Nowhere does the article say that invading Arab armies told the Palestinian Arabs to flee so they would go scorched earth on the Jews. It was supposed to be the final solution for middle east Jewry. Majority of the Arabs left voluntarily ,the article wants you to believe a tiny population surrounded by 6 countries was the aggressor.The evil Jews.

Nowhere does that article say that the Israelis imported hundreds of thousands of lipsticks , then used the shells for bullet casings.
It would be giving Israeli credit.

Ibime:
Which non Palestinian journalists have died and name their company, so we can check them out, thanks

I cannot believe you asked the question. This tells me everything I need to know about what you know about this conflict.

This is shockingly unbelievable!

I went away for a day, and I see lies everywhere by Zionist sympathisers. Where do I start from?

cococandy:
The Republican playbook. Cut the budget to publicly funded services, complain about it not working, get the media involved, and then call for the service’s removal to be privatized. The politicians get a nice kick back from the corporations that take over.

Now they’ll sell you information that you’re entitled to (courtesy of your taxes) for an additional $9.99 monthly subscription while your taxes fund more subsidies to the billionaires. And ediots will cheer as they pay more. This is what they mean by less govt.

it's the kick back play book..

I think going forward i will stop complaining about Nigerian politicians.. I guess they learned all they do from freaks and politicians in the US..

nateevs:
I cannot believe you asked the question. This tells me everything I need to know about what you know about this conflict.

This is shockingly unbelievable!

It's a simple question, bring them out

Ibime:
It's a simple question, bring them out

Guy, the free press is prohibited from covering the conflict in Gaza by the Israeli zionist government. There is not a single person from the international press on ground covering the conflict. None, ZERO, Zilch.

This is a known fact that people like me have understood from the get go.

What are you asking about?

nateevs:
Guy, the free press is prohibited from covering the conflict in Gaza by the Israeli zionist government. There is not a single person from the international press on ground covering the conflict. None, ZERO, Zilch.

This is a known fact that people like me have understood from the get go.

What are you asking about?

An example of a free press would be Aljjazeera.
Drop a nane if any other free press that is blocked

nateevs:
Guy, the free press is prohibited from covering the conflict in Gaza by the Israeli zionist government. There is not a single person from the international press on ground covering the conflict. None, ZERO, Zilch.

This is a known fact that people like me have understood from the get go.

What are you asking about?

So where are the non Palestinian journalists killed and which company do they work for as asserted by Bayelsa

Couldn't GAF about your Hamas TV journalists killed, they are terrorists

Ibime:
So where are the non Palestinian journalists killed and which company do they work for as asserted by Bayelsa

Couldn't GAF about your Hamas TV journalists killed, they are terrorists

You have no fact-based judgement on this matter. That is the only one thing that is clear to see here.

The only reason you conclude that Palestinian journalists are terrorists is based 100% on what Israel and the IDF said. There is no single independent body that has corroborated this information and you have no other way of corroborating this information.

Why do you think this information is true? Tell us.

feedthenation:
---FBI releases records on MLK Jr.'s assassination---hopefully the full Epstein files will be released soon---as part of Felon 47's campaign promises---

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-releases-fbi-records-mlk-jrs-assassination/story?id=123938278

Hopefully. The media scrramed that Republicans blocked the bill to release Epstein files. They stopped at that, alluding to Trump involvement without saying it. This was all smokes and mirrors.
The amendment was tied to the Crypto and defence funding. bills . Republicans have advanced their own non binding bill for documents release .
Democrats were just posturing, the release if it happens will hit them harder than republicans.
Separately House Speaker Mike Johnson has said they won't hold a vote on this bill until after the recess.

I don't like him. primarily because he refused to release CCTV footage of the J6 fedsurrection despite promising to. A lot of internet sleuths would have unravelled the actions of the day within a few weeks.