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Ohyoudidnt:
No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

The phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus. It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority—similar to other prophets.

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of God like the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

Actually it implies Jesus is fully God.
The word interpreted as "Godhead" is theotes in Greek and it means the state of being God.
Paul was saying that Jesus is fully God.

Gabrielshow24:
Of course! There is no boundary you use to define God that won't fit Jesus!

okay bookman pls ask him some questions

Chibuezem:
Yh God is not a man very correct He doesn't act like Man, He has his nature which Jesus Christ displayed.

Jesus was revealed as a man, in flesh and he is called a man.

Any spirit that doesn't acknowledge this is not from God, that is what John wrote.

Jesus did not act like a god but revealed the one true God through his teachings and did miracles God did through him.

Because we the children of God have the nature of God and display the nature of God, does not make us God

Chibuezem:
You know the answer, figure it out besides as a disciple of God you are, you can ask Him and He will answer you. Unless your heart is noisy.

I did and He did.

Ken4Christ:
You have the same attitude of a Jehovah Witness. You focus on verses of Scripture that appears to support your opinions and turn blind eyes on other scriptures that says otherwise. A genuine Bible scholar will look at virtually all the scriptures that has to do with the topic in question.

Why didn't you cite where God addressed Jesus as God:

Hebrews 1:8-9
8 BUT UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

What about John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.

Yes, the Father is the only True God. And the Scripture also says that the only true God is revealed in the flesh as Jesus. Is this hard for you to understand?

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

In the book of Revelation, Jesus called himself, the Almighty:

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Who is the Lord which is to come? Jesus.

Jesus also calls himself the Alpha and Omega:

Revelation 22:12-13
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Your carnal mind is your issue. Are you even born again and filled with the Holy Spirit? If you are, it will be easy for you to grasp spiritual truth.

I see plenty of errors and blunders in what you posted. Even in the Revelation you posted. But let me use one

Hebrews 1:8-9
8 BUT UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

You accept verse 8 where Jesus was called God and reject verse 9 where that clearly shows he has a God. The God in Vs 8 has a God according to Vs 9. It says, therefore God, even they God has anointed you above your fellows. Who are his fellows that his God exalted his above? God his Father is the God of God. This is very powerful.

So now do you believe that Jesus has a God according to your Hebrew 1:8-9 according to Revelation 3:12 where Jesus said it by himself?

This is a question o. Lets see those who have rejected Christ and his God.

You can also go back to the original question which you dodged and Accept or reject A or B. Thank you.

Ken4Christ:
Who made you a slayer? You truly have a problem. May God forgive you for trying to take his place

God made me a slayer of false doctrine. The way I have slayed your not knowing that Jesus has a God. You read Hebrew everyday but you have been deceived not to understand what you read so you can oppose Christ and his God.

God has given me hpower to do his will. To slay all those who are rejecting his words which came through Christ.

Remember to answer my question. Don't dodge the words of Jesus Christ.

I am Boom Ark of God. The great slayer of the antichrist

Gabrielshow24:
English is your hurdle, you can't seem to understand. Likewise, I have answered your question and I repeat it once more for clarity!
The Son glorified the Father and the Father in return has glorified the Son with a name above every other name and has subjected everything and everyone under him!

English is not his problem. It is his pretence and delusion of not knowing that is worrying him

StillDtruth:
English is not his problem. It is his pretence and delusion of not knowing that is worrying him

I wonder how his self-boast diminishes the divine nature within Jesus? —He has in no way disproved Trinity because Trinity centres on the Godship of Jesus! Something he has invariably accepted over and over again! Along with this, he and his boy-band have a skewed perception of trinity.

Trinity exemplifies that in identity The Father is different from the Son, in Nature they are the same! This is the position of the bible on this subject any other submission is far-fetched!

I thought he was going to tackle the Crux of the matter by showing us how Jesus doesn't have the nature of God, this in no wise has he shown! Even his boy-band members, Janosky, gohf and others have failed to negate this instance!

The insufficient reply made by them is flawed because the bible affirms that we strive to be like Christ, the fullness of God, and we will be like him👀! Is this not God's gift to mankind? Salvation along with being sons of God—possessing His divine nature and invariably gods!

Everything he has surmised just shows that in Authority the Father is greater than the Son!

Gabrielshow24:
In what way have I said the above!
Now bring out screenshots to justify where I said the above(bolded)! You like to lie!

I said Christ is the fullness of God and christians are admonished to have Christ! How does this not reconcile the question? I remember even using the analogy of a box carrying an elephant put within a van and querying you, "Does the van not contain an elephant?"

That contrary spirit is surely in you. Even simple laws of transitivity are contrary to your submissions! Paul surmised that Jesus be in All, so that God can be in all since God is in Jesus! What aspect of this is hard for a person to understand 🤨?

Christ is in us, the same way, God is in Christ! And since Christ is the fullness of God hence the fullness of God dwells in us also! 👌Which is also supported by phrases such as "Greater is he in you than he that is in the world"!

Once more, boomark you have no case! Your lack of reason.-ing will always provide me with arsenals to debilitate your arguments!

In conclusion, an intelligent mind will understand the Infinite-D analogy was to show the science-oriented reader that the true essence of God was not seen! It's not meant for those that doesn't know the difference between "God" and "God almighty"! The analogy reconciles the whole of scripture as regards seeing God with theophanies properly accounted for within!

Unlike your response that doesn't address anything!

Let me show the world how you run from pillar to post. Recycling falsehood recycling plant. Speaking from both sides of your mouth. International falseshow24-7. Na you biko.

I don't have time to be chasing you around to prove yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/11#136169014

I told you to show me where it is written in the bible that "Jesus is the fulless of God." After so much dribbling you posted Colossians 2:9 which says, "IN Christ LIVES the fullness of God in a human body."

I asked you where is this thing you said up there? That's when asking if I don't know the implication of the statement.

I don't work with implications you twisted and manufactured for yourself. I work with what is written in the scripture.

Since you are working with implications, contexts that oppose whatever Christ said himself, falsehood, science, and 3-D objects, you are not fit to discuss the scripture. Go and start teaching intro-tech.

I deal with what I see in the bible not a manufactured and twisted implication.

Go and answer my question. A or B. Nothing else to discuss until you accept or reject Christ.

gohf:
I did and He did.

okay so what's your thought on how we can end tribalism in Nigeria?

gohf:
Jesus was revealed as a man, in flesh and he is called a man.

Any spirit that doesn't acknowledge this is not from God, that is what John wrote.

Jesus did not act like a god but revealed the one true God through his teachings and did miracles God did through him.

Because we the children of God have the nature of God and display the nature of God, does not make us God

I hear you

Chibuezem:
lol flee or dissappear clap for yourself.
God the Father is the Father
God the Son Jesus Christ is the Son
God the Holy spirit is the Spirit. They are one.
If you don't understand this then my friend there's nothing I can do about it
The scriptures you quoted are correct.
I believe and accept God's words and instructions.
However I don't believe and accept what you propose that Jesus Christ is lesser than God the Father or the Holyspirit is lesser. They are equal and one. There's One God
1 John 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

If you want flee, dance, jump and force your notions except God convinces me... You are wasting your time.
Have a productive day.

No. It is satan that will convince since you have rejected Christ.

Read this carefully till the end. I treated I and my Father are one in the end.

John 14:23-29, 31 NIV
[23] Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. [24] Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. [25] “All this I have spoken while still with you. [26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. [27] Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. [28] “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. [29] I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe.
[31] but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me. “Come now; let us leave.

When the Holy spirit comes he will teach them and still reminds them everything that he taught them. John 8:27. And they are:

1. Anyone who loves him will obey his teaching. Only those who hate him will reject his words/teaching. John 8:23-24

2. The Father is greater than him. John 8:28, 10:29.

3. He does exactly what the Father commands him to do. Verse 31.

4. That the Father is his God. John 20:17, Hebrew 1:8-9, Revelation 3:12.


The Holy spirit came, revealed, reminded and they knew and understood:

1. That the Father is the God of Jesus Christ, Hebrew 1:8-9, Romans 15:6, 2 Corinthians 1:3, 11:31, Ephesians 1:3,17, Colossians 1:3, 1 Peter 1:3

2. That his God chose him and made him Lord and Messiah, Act 2:36.

3. That Jesus is still the holy servant of God, Act 3:13,26, Acts 4:27,30

4. That he is now serving as the high priest of God in heaven, Hebrew 4:14-15, 5:1-10, 7:1-28, 9:11-14.

5. That they should pray to the Father in his name. Not to him. Acts 4:23-31, Ephesians 3:14, As Jesus told them, "in that day you will not ask me anything," John 16:23-24, 26-27.

6. That the Father is their God and Jesus is their Lord, Romans 1:8, 2 Corinthians 1:2, 2 John 1:3, and all the epistles especially in chapter 1.

7. That the head of Christ is God, 1 Corinthians 11:3.

8. That Jesus will continue to remain subject to the Father until death is destroyed, 1 Corinthians 15:25-26.

9. That it is God that GAVE him all powers in heaven and on earth. God made everything possible for him. He didn't do it by himself. 1 Corinthians 15:28

10. That at the end of age, he will hand over the kingdom to God so that God will be ALL in ALL, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

Those rejecting what Christ said and what the Holy spirit inspired are of the devil.

You belief that 'I and my Father are one' is pointing at trinity Is what satan revealed to you. Let me show you what Christ himself revealed.

John 10:30 HCSB
[30] The Father and I are one.”

See explanation to it from Jesus in the bible.

John 17:21-23 HCSB
[21] May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me. [22] I have given them the glory You have given Me. May they be one as We are one. [23] I am in them and You are in Me. May they be made completely one, so the world may know You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me.

"May they be one as we are one." Trinity slayed to pieces.

This is simple english. Satan will not allow those that are deluded to understand simple english. Your revelation is only coming from satan and the antichrist.

Boomark:
God made me a slayer of false doctrine. The way I have slayed your not knowing that Jesus has a God. You read Hebrew everyday but you have been deceived not to understand what you read so you can oppose Christ and his God.

God has given me hpower to do his will. To slay all those who are rejecting his words which came through Christ.

Remember to answer my question. Don't dodge the words of Jesus Christ.

I am Boom Ark of God. The great slayer of the antichrist

The worst ignorance is not knowing that you are truly ignorant.

Boomark:
I see plenty of errors and blunders in what you posted. Even in the Revelation you posted. But let me use one

Hebrews 1:8-9
8 BUT UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

You accept verse 8 where Jesus was called God and reject verse 9 where that clearly shows he has a God. The God in Vs 8 has a God according to Vs 9. It says, therefore God, even they God has anointed you above your fellows. Who are his fellows that his God exalted his above? God his Father is the God of God. This is very powerful.

So now do you believe that Jesus has a God according to your Hebrew 1:8-9 according to Revelation 3:12 where Jesus said it by himself?

This is a question o. Lets see those who have rejected Christ and his God.

You can also go back to the original question which you dodged and Accept or reject A or B. Thank you.

Jesus of course has a God and he is himself God manifest in human flesh. You can’t see God in physical form. If you want to see God in physical form, look at Jesus.

Boomark:
No. It is satan that will convince since you have rejected Christ.

Read this carefully till the end. I treated I and my Father are one in the end.

John 14:23-29, 31 NIV
[23] Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. [24] Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. [25] “All this I have spoken while still with you. [26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. [27] Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. [28] “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. [29] I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe.
[31] but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me. “Come now; let us leave.

When the Holy spirit comes he will teach them and still reminds them everything that he taught them. John 8:27. And they are:

1. Anyone who loves him will obey his teaching. Only those who hate him will reject his words/teaching. John 8:23-24

2. The Father is greater than him. John 8:28, 10:29.

3. He does exactly what the Father commands him to do. Verse 31.

4. That the Father is his God. John 20:17, Hebrew 1:8-9, Revelation 3:12.


The Holy spirit came, revealed, reminded and they knew and understood:

1. That the Father is the God of Jesus Christ, Hebrew 1:8-9, Romans 15:6, 2 Corinthians 1:3, 11:31, Ephesians 1:3,17, Colossians 1:3, 1 Peter 1:3

2. That his God chose him and made him Lord and Messiah, Act 2:36.

3. That Jesus is still the holy servant of God, Act 3:13,26, Acts 4:27,30

4. That he is now serving as the high priest of God in heaven, Hebrew 4:14-15, 5:1-10, 7:1-28, 9:11-14.

5. That they should pray to the Father in his name. Not to him. Acts 4:23-31, Ephesians 3:14, As Jesus told them, "in that day you will not ask me anything," John 16:23-24, 26-27.

6. That the Father is their God and Jesus is their Lord, Romans 1:8, 2 Corinthians 1:2, 2 John 1:3, and all the epistles especially in chapter 1.

7. That the head of Christ is God, 1 Corinthians 11:3.

8. That Jesus will continue to remain subject to the Father until death is destroyed, 1 Corinthians 15:25-26.

9. That it is God that GAVE him all powers in heaven and on earth. God made everything possible for him. He didn't do it by himself. 1 Corinthians 15:28

10. That at the end of age, he will hand over the kingdom to God so that God will be ALL in ALL, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

Those rejecting what Christ said and what the Holy spirit inspired are of the devil.

You belief that 'I and my Father are one' is pointing at trinity Is what satan revealed to you. Let me show you what Christ himself revealed.

John 10:30 HCSB
[30] The Father and I are one.”

See explanation to it from Jesus in the bible.

John 17:21-23 HCSB
[21] May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me. [22] I have given them the glory You have given Me. May they be one as We are one. [23] I am in them and You are in Me. May they be made completely one, so the world may know You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me.

"May they be one as we are one." Trinity slayed to pieces.

This is simple english. Satan will not allow those that are deluded to understand simple english. Your revelation is only coming from satan and the antichrist.

Yh God bless you abundantly. Have a wonderful day today.

Steep:
Actually it implies Jesus is fully God.
The word interpreted as "Godhead" is theotes in Greek and it means the state of being God.
Paul was saying that Jesus is fully God.

How exactly?

Gabrielshow24:
The same spirit of God was in different portions in the case of Elijah and Elisha! Thus they were presumably filled with the spirit but not the Fullness of God! It's only Christ that the phrase "fullness of God" was used!

Yes, the fullness of God comes with the full package, the nature along with the fruit! 👌

Paul didn't con-vulse while receiving messages but yet you believe in the visions of such a one👀! Incase you do not understand, kindly look up the biblical classification of such a spirit!

Must you convulse in a trance? You are leaning on a fabrication you tell yourselves and have no proof since it is untrue.

Gabrielshow24:
The same spirit of God was in different portions in the case of Elijah and Elisha! Thus they were presumably filled with the spirit but not the Fullness of God! It's only Christ that the phrase "fullness of God" was used!

Yes, the fullness of God comes with the full package, the nature along with the fruit! 👌

Paul didn't con-vulse while receiving messages but yet you believe in the visions of such a one👀! Incase you do not understand, kindly look up the biblical classification of such a spirit!

Stephen, Elijah, Elisha, and others were empowered by the Spirit of God to fulfill their missions.

Jesus, too, was filled with the Spirit of God, as we see in Luke 4:1: “Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan…”

The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus gave the Spirit to himself; rather, it was bestowed upon him by God.

Prophets like Elijah and Elisha received portions of God’s Spirit as gifts. Similarly, the Bible tells us that Jesus was also given the Spirit by God. The term "fullness of God" serves as a metaphor for intimacy, support, and divine approval not as evidence of divinity.

If having a portion of the Spirit doesn’t make Elijah or Elisha divine, then having the Spirit in greater abundance doesn’t automatically make Jesus God either.

Let’s not forget Matthew 3:16 – “...he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him.”

If Jesus already possessed divine fullness, why would he need to receive the Spirit?

Seems you enjoy switching off and on his supreme deitiness

The distinction between portions and fullness is functional, not ontological.

Gabrielshow24:
Yet when it soothes the Quranic writers they give him two hands🤨. Islam doesn't have an handle of the concept of omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient God!

You limited your Allah by saying he needs a consort to make a son when he obviously didn't need one when he made Adam and Jesus—You claim he said "Be!" but yet it seems so hard for Allah to say "Be!" again, in order for him to make a son🤨.

By the way, Adam was made by clay according to some Quranic verse which contradicts the Islamic reply that "Jesus is like Adam, a word from Allah!"

Another misunderstood probably intentional on your part. The Quran affirms Allah has hands as He described but not like anything in creation.
There is nothing like unto Him” (Qur’an 42:11)

It is a metaphorical statement denoting power and favour.

Where is Allah limited in needing a consort when his command is sufficient to do all he does?

Adam's body was made of clay or soul and this literally passes to all mankind that have bodies which degenerate back to clay.

Indeed, We created man from clay..."
Surah Al-Mu’minūn (23:12)

Sincerely ask yourself which is easier? Creation with no parent or with one parent?

You don't understand that without the command Adam will not have been in that bodily form.

And We certainly created you, then We gave you form; then We said to the angels, 'Prostrate to Adam.... (Quran 7:11)

Ohyoudidnt:
How exactly?

what is how? That is what the word theotes mean.

Ohyoudidnt:
Another misunderstood probably intentional on your part. The Quran affirms Allah has hands as He described but not like anything in creation.
There is nothing like unto Him” (Qur’an 42:11)

It is a metaphorical statement denoting power and favour.

Where is Allah limited in needing a consort when his command is sufficient to do all he does?

Adam's body was made of clay or soul and this literally passes to all mankind that have bodies which degenerate back to clay.

Indeed, We created man from clay..."
Surah Al-Mu’minūn (23:12)

Sincerely ask yourself which is easier? Creation with no parent or with one parent?

You don't understand that without the command Adam will not have been in that bodily form.

And We certainly created you, then We gave you form; then We said to the angels, 'Prostrate to Adam.... (Quran 7:11)

Probably you feigned ignorance to see how I have elucidated that above!
You also didn't tackle the question. If God can create Jesus "Be!" without needing a consort, why then is it impossible for God to have a son? What happened to the word "Be!"?
Do you get my point? I didn't ask you for which is better single parent procreation or whatsoever —my question aimed to highlight the incapability placed on an omnipotent God!

Ohyoudidnt:
Another misunderstood probably intentional on your part. The Quran affirms Allah has hands as He described but not like anything in creation.
There is nothing like unto Him” (Qur’an 42:11)

It is a metaphorical statement denoting power and favour.

Where is Allah limited in needing a consort when his command is sufficient to do all he does?

Adam's body was made of clay or soul and this literally passes to all mankind that have bodies which degenerate back to clay.

Indeed, We created man from clay..."
Surah Al-Mu’minūn (23:12)

Sincerely ask yourself which is easier? Creation with no parent or with one parent?

You don't understand that without the command Adam will not have been in that bodily form.

And We certainly created you, then We gave you form; then We said to the angels, 'Prostrate to Adam.... (Quran 7:11)

This is also tangential to my argument but I will dignify you with a response. Your God is metaphorically depicted in numerous verses as having anthropomorphic features while also denying his people from associating such features with him! 🤨

You can't eat your cake and have it! Like Jesus said "Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No".
For I can't be using the same thing I forbade as an illustration of who I am! It's like saying the Chinese president used "theft as a portrayal of something good when his country upholds the death penalty on such"

I can also reveal other surahs and hadiths that depict your God in various anthropomorphic features but I instead prefer to tackle the crux of the matter 🤤!

Ohyoudidnt:
Stephen, Elijah, Elisha, and others were empowered by the Spirit of God to fulfill their missions.

Jesus, too, was filled with the Spirit of God, as we see in Luke 4:1: “Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan…”

The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus gave the Spirit to himself; rather, it was bestowed upon him by God.

Prophets like Elijah and Elisha received portions of God’s Spirit as gifts. Similarly, the Bible tells us that Jesus was also given the Spirit by God. The term "fullness of God" serves as a metaphor for intimacy, support, and divine approval not as evidence of divinity.

If having a portion of the Spirit doesn’t make Elijah or Elisha divine, then having the Spirit in greater abundance doesn’t automatically make Jesus God either.

Let’s not forget Matthew 3:16 – “...he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him.”

If Jesus already possessed divine fullness, why would he need to receive the Spirit?

Seems you enjoy switching off and on his supreme deitiness

The distinction between portions and fullness is functional, not ontological.

In what way did you infer that I said Jesus gave the spirit to himself! In the Quran, Allah refers to himself as the "first and the last". In the bible, Jesus refers to himself as the "first and the last".
By Quranic standards, does Jesus not have the Essence of Allah? —Even though I don't want to be totally blunt by using direct equation since I have taken into view the standard Islamic narratives 🤧!

Let also ask you, By your prophet's definition or standard of relegation of other false gods, he posited that because they do not have the power to create they are false but look at such a one in Isa, that made birds🤨, supposedly didn't die and yet exhibited features and attributes that are imposed on God alone!

You have a skewed perception of trinity, you can look at my responses to educate yourself. You acknowledge that Elijah and Elisha have portions of God's spirit and you posit that having greater abundance doesn't warrant the Divine attribute—This is wrong, the fullness of God as much as you want to spin it as a metaphor rears its head as Jesus embodying the Full divine Essence of God!

You can have part of something doesn't necessarily translate to having the full. Elijah and Elisha in their own rights did things that were remarkable based on the portion of the spirit upon them! You can ascribe these things as "Divine" but the emphasis is that both didn't have the fullness of God! They had in portions and worked according to the portion given to them!

Ohyoudidnt:
Must you convulse in a trance? You are leaning on a fabrication you tell yourselves and have no proof since it is untrue.

It's in the hadith..with varying accounts of his expressions when he received the "wahy"👌. If you like proof, let me know. I base my speech on facts not hearsay! I will post all the necessary hadiths related to these expressions or episodes 👀!

Ken4Christ:
Jesus of course has a God and he is himself God manifest in human flesh. You can’t see God in physical form. If you want to see God in physical form, look at Jesus.

Exactly!

Ken4Christ:
Jesus of course has a God and he is himself God manifest in human flesh. You can’t see God in physical form. If you want to see God in physical form, look at Jesus.

Good.

Now go and answer the question properly if you are not ashamed of Christ and his words. Chose A or B.

Chibuezem:
Yh God bless you abundantly. Have a wonderful day today.

God bless you too. Have a wonderful day meditating on the scripture I have shown you.