₦airaland Forum

Svoboda:
Is it thia featherweight who can't win an election in his family that Tinubu is now relying on to sway sentiments to power remaining in the south? How is power even in the south when we all know power is in the Lagos boys club.
I am igbo. What has Tinubu significantly done for the southeast? Nothing. Even Buhari did well for us.

Don't mind them.

There is nothing like zoning. If they want Zoning, they should put it in the constitution.

North East has not produced a president. So Atiku has the right to also contest . That why I want Peter Obi to humble himself and Vice Atiku. He need Atiku just like Atiku also needs him to remove Apc from power.

Tinubu must go! The fake Chicago fraudster must go!

Most Northerners are sincere and trustworthy only Atiku is the bad apple from the north

AmazingELixir:
Diswan go shatter obidients hearts like egg shell...Datti calling Wike their mortal enemy dear friend...

Datti is working for Obi

stanluiz:
Don't mind them.

There is nothing like zoning. If they want Zoning, they should put it in the constitution.

North East has not produced a president. So Atiku has the right to also contest . That why I want Peter Obi to humble himself and Vice Atiku. He need Atiku just like Atiku also needs him to remove Apc from power.

You said it all sir.

fergie001:
You don't know Atiku.

The man in the North doesn't understand what you are saying, they will also not back Obi or Amaechi. Tinubu wins seamlessly again!

I know they could do that and that’s why sometimes I like what a character like Wike is doing.

All southern politicians should agree that in 2027, it’s either the coalition gives their ticket to a southerner or let Tinubu complete his 8 years. We won’t be the worst off.

Make Atiku go rest.

stanluiz:
Don't mind them.

There is nothing like zoning. If they want Zoning, they should put it in the constitution.

North East has not produced a president. So Atiku has the right to also contest . That why I want Peter Obi to humble himself and Vice Atiku. He need Atiku just like Atiku also needs him to remove Apc from power.

In that case let Atiku humble himself and vice obi

It's a 2 way thing 🤗

Penguin2:
I know they could do that and that’s why sometimes I like what a character like Wike is doing.

All southern politicians should agree that in 2027, it’s either the coalition gives their ticket to a southerner or let Tinubu complete his 8 years. We won’t be the worst off.

Make Atiku go rest.

Exactly 💯 💯 support your opinion on this matter 👍

WesleyPepper:
Just Dey play 😂😂😂
The A in ADC stands for Atiku . The earlier you Zom.biedie.nts understand , the better

Then it's a sad thing to say but let tilumbu then continue

AMINDA:
It would rather work against Tinubu. Southern votes will be split into three (Tinubu, Obi, PDP). Atiku will get majority of the votes cast by consolidating on his Northern base. Afterall, Atiku's Northeast is the region that has never produced a President. If the Southeast deserves it, the Northeast deserves it even more. Facts are stubborn and numbers don't lie.

Don't be clever by half.

Abacha was from Borno state. He was a Kanuri man.

There is nothing like northern base.

Tinubu is clearing the south, north central and northern christian votes in 2027.

slivertongue:
Understand that datti is also playing games to distract APC. Obi and Co are resting while he has taken the stage to talk. Once AA and PO shows up he will take leave of the stage so please allow him entertain them

Datti that has already made his intentions known to Peter Obi so that their will be no crack between?

SEE CONFIDENCE




IN A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION OBI WILL DEFEAT TINUBU BEFORE 12NOON

Also supported as well.

AntiChristian:
It seems Atiku will spend money for BAT to win again!

Honestly!

I'm beginning to wonder if Atiku doesn't have some sort of secret agreement to help PBAT win elections?

Zoning is dead
The south will not repeat the mistake of 2019 in 2031

South contest just like North did in 2023

Ikaeniyan0:
Datti is working for Obi

Working for or working with...choose your words appropriately.

Svoboda:
You said it all sir.

A lot of northerners want power in the south till 2031

Akpakomiza2:
A lot of northerners want power in the south till 2031

Not with what Tinubu is doing. How are they even sure he's going to handover to the north?

Svoboda:
Not with what Tinubu is doing. How are they even sure he's going to handover to the north?

What is Tinubu exactly doing to the north please?

Penguin2:
I know they could do that and that’s why sometimes I like what a character like Wike is doing.

All southern politicians should agree that in 2027, it’s either the coalition gives their ticket to a southerner or let Tinubu complete his 8 years. We won’t be the worst off.

Make Atiku go rest.

You are spewing gibberish.
Highly disappointed. If igbo miss the opportunity of entering aso rock in 2027, you will never smell it again in 30 yrs coming.
The only chance you guys get is through obi even if he is deputising. Once that door close. It will take miracle to open again. Realignment will happen again and you guys will start crying marginalisation up and down.
An avenue is wide open for you and you are playing emotional sentiment with it. As if tinubu and co care about you igbo. You dont know anything about national politics. Stop talking please and allow sensible igbo people do the permutation and for first time since the end of civil war, an igbo man is projected to enter aso rock and fellow igbo is yapping nonsens. You well so?
No matter how popular you think obi is, without the north, he is going nowhere. North has reached out to igbo. Do you know the realignment happening? Do you know what it took them?

It will bury the pains of the biafran civil war. No more dot. For the first time,igbos will belong and be part of nigeria. Don't spoil this golden opportunity for igbo people.

So ashamed of you and your likes saying south this or south that.
Did you know that Datti betrayed Obi even though he was his running mate?
That's how little you know about national politics.

Not shouting obidients up and down.
Even if after south rule and north take over. When it's south turn, you think yoruba will support igbo.

You and fergie fall my hand.
Anyway, you are one out of so may so your opinion doesn't matter.

Put obi as a presidential candidate and he will never win even if in ADC.
He can only deputise and we will support him 100%.
North is gonna test and see if it's worth the gamble. Obi is the sacrificial lamb. He has already acknowledged that. He do well,he will be projected for the presidency. Its people like you that's making him hesitate from coming out with full chest. If you cant support him, pls supporttinubu. Simple. No wonder it's said igbo people play politics of emotions.

Tell Atiku that, the desperate Dubai old man. If ADC gives it to Atiku, just forget the south ever honoring that again, even in APC, we won't vote any Northerner after Tinubu.

aribisala0:
Zoning is dead
The south will not repeat the mistake of 2019 in 2031

South contest just like North did in 2023

Exactly, my point. A credible Southerner has the ability to capture votes of all the middle belts plus southern states since the North don't want power shift. If not for what Atiku did in 2023 it would have been normal power sharing between the two regions: north and south, across all parties.
But he's a greedy and selfish man.

descarado:
You are spewing gibberish.
Highly disappointed. If igbo miss the opportunity of entering aso rock in 2027, you will never smell it again in 30 yrs coming.
The only chance you guys get is through obi even if he is deputising. Once that door close. It will take miracle to open again. Realignment will happen again and you guys will start crying marginalisation up and down.
An avenue is wide open for you and you are playing emotional sentiment with it. As if tinubu and co care about you igbo. You dont know anything about national politics. Stop talking please and allow sensible igbo people do the permutation and for first time since the end of civil war, an igbo man is projected to enter aso rock and fellow igbo is yapping nonsens. You well so?
No matter how popular you think obi is, without the north, he is going nowhere. North has reached out to igbo. Do you know the realignment happening? Do you know what it took them?

It will bury the pains of the biafran civil war. No more dot. For the first time,igbos will belong and be part of nigeria. Don't spoil this golden opportunity for igbo people.

So ashamed of you and your likes saying south this or south that.
Did you know that Datti betrayed Obi even though he was his running mate?
That's how little you know about national politics.

Not shouting obidients up and down.
Even if after south rule and north take over. When it's south turn, you think yoruba will support igbo.

You and fergie fall my hand.
Anyway, you are one out of so may so your opinion doesn't matter.

Put obi as a presidential candidate and he will never win even if in ADC.
He can only deputise and we will support him 100%.
North is gonna test and see if it's worth the gamble. Obi is the sacrificial lamb. He has already acknowledged that. He do well,he will be projected for the presidency. Its people like you that's making him hesitate from coming out with full chest. If you cant support him, pls supporttinubu. Simple. No wonder it's said igbo people play politics of emotions.

What did Yoruba benefit from Osinbajo entering Aso Rock?

And what are the Kanuris, and the Northeast in extension, gaining from Shettima entering Aso Rock?

You see you are accusing us of playing emotional politics but it’s you who lack foresight despite having a lot of historical examples you can learn from.

Everyone thought Buhari would anoint Osinbajo as successor but how did it end?

Are you not seeing what is happening to Shettima? Him not running with Tinubu in 2027 is almost signed, sealed and delivered.

What am I saying? I’m trying to make you see how powerless, useless and helpless Vice Presidents usually are.

If we are to go by your thinking, what is the guarantee that Atiku and his men will handover to Obi even after 8 years?

What is the Southeast likely to gain from Obi’s vice presidency?

Give Atiku the ADC ticket and the entire south will unite behind Tinubu and majority of Obi supporters will rather stay home on Election Day than come out to vote Atiku. Or you don’t know that?

See, all this “Obi cannot win Tinubu” is stupid narrative they feed your minds to create inexistent limitations.

If the north is sincere about getting Tinubu out of power, they should give Peter Obi the ticket and support him across the north to do one tenure and hand power back to the north.

This is doable, and it’s not impossible.

Open your mind!

Akpakomiza2:
What is Tinubu exactly doing to the north please?

Like we all don't live in Nigeria.

Svoboda:
Like we all don't live in Nigeria.

Is he marginalizing them because the north has more appointments? The hardship is everywhere. The north central or middle belt are very happy. They are several projects in the north

Penguin2:
What did Yoruba benefit from Osinbajo entering Aso Rock?

And what are the Kanuris, and the Northeast in extension, gaining from Shettima entering Aso Rock?

You see you are accusing us of playing emotional politics but it’s you who lack foresight despite having a lot of historical examples you can learn from.

Everyone thought Buhari would anoint Osinbajo as successor but how did it end?

Are you not seeing what is happening to Shettima? Him not running with Tinubu in 2027 is almost signed, sealed and delivered.

What am I saying? I’m trying to make you see how powerless, useless and helpless Vice Presidents usually are.

If we are to go by your thinking, what is the guarantee that Atiku and his men will handover to Obi even after 8 years?

What is the Southeast likely to gain from Obi’s vice presidency?

Give Atiku the ADC ticket and the entire south will unite behind Tinubu and majority of Obi supporters will rather stay home on Election Day than come out to vote Atiku. Or you don’t know that?

See, all this “Obi cannot win Tinubu” is stupid narrative they feed your minds to create inexistent limitations.

If the north is sincere about getting Tinubu out of power, they should give Peter Obi the ticket and support him across the north to do one tenure and hand power back to the north.

This is doable, and it’s not impossible.

Open your mind!

Yoruba have been there as president. Have you been there?
We have more than 300 ethnic groups in nigeria. Igbo is among the 3 major group. Clamour for an igbo man to enter there goes beyond the presidency. Its about healing and integration, acceptance and trust.
It will not come easily based on igbo history but a step is taken and an olive branch has been extended. That is what an average igbo man is looking at. That is what igbo elders are looking at including obi.

You coming online with that mentality that it's either our way or the highway is nonsense. You come with that emotional outbursts, it will never ever be your way and nothing will happen. Highest, more agitation for Biafra. Clamp down and the cycle continues.
Obi is the best bet for igbo and you may never know why people like obasanjo is pushing him to enter aso rock. It is for national reconciliation.
Let me tell you, if obi mistakenly become president 2027, igbo will do worst than what the yorubas are doing. The military will be forced to take over. Igbo people should be prepared for the presidency. Obi is good but what about his people.

They will justify why they are doing what they are doing. You know your people. You behave the same manner in this forum. You should also know what happened before the biafran war.
The north problem is never obi but actions of igbo people if he takes the mantle of national leadership. They will chase obi out of office with their chest beating and grabbing by all means as they will say they have never eaten national cake since ekwueme time. So they should start from the vp slot.

Also, obidients are not only igbo. People that fought and supported obi are not only igbo. It will do you well to listen to their voices and don’t intimidate them.

I know a yoruba guy that have fought his people here cos of his support for obi several times. Lost some of his friends. Do not be insensitive and mock people like him. He and others are happy to let obi enter there even as vp as long as tinubu is out.
Be guarded in your utterances.

Hey, I dont live in nigeria and I am telling you the mind of many obi supporters. We see beyond today. We are looking at nigeria of tomorrow where fairness is promoted according to our constitution or are you not tired of what nigeria has become because of division which favours few? Diaspora are the people who promoted marketed obi before you guys came in with our resources. This same Diaspora are telling you guys to allow nigeria heal through obi.
What do igbo people actually want from the center that they don't have? A average igbo man want to integrate freely anywhere in nigeria and do his thing without looking at his back or disenfranchised cos he is an igbo. You know nothing at all.
In all good indices, igbo is always first. So obi going there is about bringing all to the table for peace talk which he is very good in. Igbo need that more than any other thing.
So my friend, that is the most important thing.
The rest will follow naturally


This is what you guys are not seeing. Beyond your nose.


Hey, it may interest you to know i have been privileged to be in the same room with an ex military personnel who fought for nigeria during the nigerian biafran wars and retired as general. Will not tell you his country of origin but nigeria is held together by that country.
Intense debate ensured. Moment of truth.

Half of what I said here is what he echoed. I was all over the place like you. Guy know nigerian tribes and what they are capable of more than I know my tribe.
Igbo people are not ready for presidency. After the election,he rang me up. I told you so. They cannot withstand the shock. They will be slowly guided into it. And this is the phase we are in.
Take this to the bank. The rest of our discussion, I will not tell you.

descarado:
Yoruba have been there as president. Have you been there?
We have more than 300 ethnic groups in nigeria. Igbo is among the 3 major group. Clamour for an igbo man to enter there goes beyond the presidency. Its about healing and integration, acceptance and trust.
It will not come easily based on igbo history but a step is taken and an olive branch has been extended. That is what an average igbo man is looking at. That is what igbo elders are looking at including obi.

You coming online with that mentality that it's either our way or the highway is nonsense. You come with that emotional outbursts, it will never ever be your way and nothing will happen. Highest, more agitation for Biafra. Clamp down and the cycle continues.
Obi is the best bet for igbo and you may never know why people like obasanjo is pushing him to enter aso rock. It is for national reconciliation.
Let me tell you, if obi mistakenly become president 2027, igbo will do worst than what the yorubas are doing. The military will be forced to take over. Igbo people should be prepared for the presidency. Obi is good but what about his people.

They will justify why they are doing what they are doing. You know your people. You behave the same manner in this forum. You should also know what happened before the biafran war.
The north problem is never obi but actions of igbo people if he takes the mantle of national leadership. They will chase obi out of office with their chest beating and grabbing by all means as they will say they have never eaten national cake since ekwueme time. So they should start from the vp slot.

Also, obidients are not only igbo. People that fought and supported obi are not only igbo. It will do you well to listen to their voices and don’t intimidate them.

I know a yoruba guy that have fought his people here cos of his support for obi several times. Lost some of his friends. Do not be insensitive and mock people like him. He and others are happy to let obi enter there even as vp as long as tinubu is out.
Be guarded in your utterances.

Hey, I dont live in nigeria and I am telling you the mind of many obi supporters. We see beyond today. We are looking at nigeria of tomorrow where fairness is promoted according to our constitution or are you not tired of what nigeria has become because of division which favours few? Diaspora are the people who promoted marketed obi before you guys came in with our resources. This same Diaspora are telling you guys to allow nigeria heal through obi.
What do igbo people actually want from the center that they don't have? A average igbo man want to integrate freely anywhere in nigeria and do his thing without looking at his back or disenfranchised cos he is an igbo. You know nothing at all.
In all good indices, igbo is always first. So obi going there is about bringing all to the table for peace talk which he is very good in. Igbo need that more than any other thing.
So my friend, that is the most important thing.
The rest will follow naturally


This is what you guys are not seeing. Beyond your nose.


Hey, it may interest you to know i have been privileged to be in the same room with an ex military personnel who fought for nigeria during the nigerian biafran wars and retired as general. Will not tell you his country of origin but nigeria is held together by that country.
Intense debate ensured. Moment of truth.

Half of what I said here is what he echoed. I was all over the place like you. Guy know nigerian tribes and what they are capable of more than I know my tribe.
Igbo people are not ready for presidency. After the election,he rang me up. I told you so. They cannot withstand the shock. They will be slowly guided into it. And this is the phase we are in.
Take this to the bank. The rest of our discussion, I will not tell you.

See, I understand your point.

Unfortunately you don’t understand mine.

And saying Igbos would want to grab everything if Obi should become president is you being dishonest. First of all, who will give them that chance? Does Obi look like he’s going to tolerate Igbos doing rubbish just because he’s president?

Do you really think Igbos of this generation are brainless chaps that have learned nothing from history?

There’s nothing absolutely wrong with Peter Obi being president in 2027 and Igbos don’t need to be slowly guided or eased into the presidency. We won’t go hysterical and we won’t grab the national cake all to ourselves.

I will repeat what I’ve stated before…. If the north is sincere about defeating Tinubu, then let them support Peter Obi. But if their aim is to grab power with the help of Peter Obi’s large followership, then let Tinubu continue, and let the presidency not come to Igbos in 100 years.

Vice Presidency is useless to southeast and Ndigbo in general.

Akpakomiza2:
Is he marginalizing them because the north has more appointments? The hardship is everywhere. The north central or middle belt are very happy. They are several projects in the north

Yes. Benue and plateau people are very happy while still being displaced.

Also, farmers who spent through their noses to buy farming inputs, ranging from fertilizers to herbicides to tractors without any govt input or intervention, and are now forced to sell well below their cost price while he empowers already wealthy men like bua with import licenses, are also very happy.

Don't even go to appointments. We all know what is going on. Every money generating agency in Nigeria is headed by a Yoruba person currently. The first liners, CBN, nnpc, firs, customs and so on. The few second tier that are headed by non yorubas have a Yoruba as head of finance.

What even makes it worse for him is the arrogance. A president who had more people voting against him than voted for him should have been humble. But the so called sycophants would always tell him all is well. It's only a matter of time.

Penguin2:
See, I understand your point.

Unfortunately you don’t understand mine.

And saying Igbos would want to grab everything if Obi should become president is you being dishonest. First of all, who will give them that chance? Does Obi look like he’s going to tolerate Igbos doing rubbish just because he’s president?

Do you really think Igbos of this generation are brainless chaps that have learned nothing from history?

There’s nothing absolutely wrong with Peter Obi being president in 2027 and Igbos don’t need to be slowly guided or eased into the presidency. We won’t go hysterical and we won’t grab the national cake all to ourselves.

I will repeat what I’ve stated before…. If the north is sincere about defeating Tinubu, then let them support Peter Obi. But if their aim is to grab power with the help of Peter Obi’s large followership, then let Tinubu continue, and let the presidency not come to Igbos in 100 years.

Vice Presidency is useless to southeast and Ndigbo in general.

Nobody is giving anybody anything. Every region should do their political permutations and choose what pleases it. Southsouth are already positioning as a region to Vice a Northerner in 2031 and then presidency in 2039. They will mostly support Tinubu because of what's in it for them in the future, not even now. Power will still return North whether in 2027 or inevitably in 2031. The North as a region is strategically positioned to benefit from either scenarios because all their eggs are not in one basket. Do whatever pleases you or your region but nobody will surrender the ADC ticket to Obi without participating in the primaries. A section of the North (with potentially the largest voting bloc) has extended a handshake across the Niger to the Southeast like was done with the Southwest in 2015. Obi can either sink or swim with the future of his region. Soludo gave him a hint in 2023 but he didn't take it.

Svoboda:
Yes. Benue and plateau people are very happy while still being displaced.

Also, farmers who spent through their noses to buy farming inputs, ranging from fertilizers to herbicides to tractors without any govt input or intervention, and are now forced to sell well below their cost price while he empowers already wealthy men like bua with import licenses, are also very happy.

Don't even go to appointments. We all know what is going on. Every money generating agency in Nigeria is headed by a Yoruba person currently. The first liners, CBN, nnpc, firs, customs and so on. The few second tier that are headed by non yorubas have a Yoruba as head of finance.

What even makes it worse for him is the arrogance. A president who had more people voting against him than voted for him should have been humble. But the so called sycophants would always tell him all is well. It's only a matter of time.

But buhari did exactly the same na and nothing happened. Under buhari and Gej, the best appointments went to their zone, should tinubu do otherwise? Insecurity esp banditry and herdsmen festered in the north under buhari which Gej is tackling. There is progress in Benue and plateau. Of course you know they won't vote Atiku

Akpakomiza2:
But buhari did exactly the same na and nothing happened. Under buhari and Gej, the best appointments went to their zone, should tinubu do otherwise? Insecurity esp banditry and herdsmen festered in the north under buhari which Gej is tackling. There is progress in Benue and plateau. Of course you know they won't vote Atiku

Didn't we all expect better from Tinubu?
The middlebelt may not vote an atiku, but with Obi as his running mate, that would be enough persuasion to ditch Tinubu.