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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:51am On Dec 18, 2024
MightySparrow:
What exactly are you practicing?
He is now a practicing member. He has a certificate given to him by Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses or religious body as it applies to ordained ministers cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:52am On Dec 18, 2024
Jehovah’s Witnesses have little truly systematic theology … In fact, they have almost no consistent doctrinal system at all except for one thing: they do have an ecclesiology that stresses loyalty to the Watch Tower organization above everything else.

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 9:23am On Dec 18, 2024
The Watchtower of 15 November 2001 published the following statement
about Jehovah’s Witnesses:

Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. (1 Peter 2:11) ‘Not even a plague draws near their tent.’ Whether our hope is heavenly or earthly, we are not part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion, and worship of the ‘wild beast’ and its ‘image,’ the United Nations.
Break it down.........

1. That's why their Governing body remain isolated in their ivory tower in USA headquarters.

2. They are infected by such spiritually deadly plaques as it's

(a) IMMORALITY........ child sexual abuse widespread within the community, adultery, fornication, wife swapping, homosexuality from the lowest cadre to the highest cadre.

(b) MATERIALISM.......... former headquarters was sold in billions, kingdom halls taken over are still being sold at appreciable amounts, modern buildings being built with sophistication that comes with latest materialistic comfort


(c) FALSE RELIGION..... They can hardly carry out theological research without the works and contributions of those they call FALSE RELIGION. What a deception.

(d) worship of the ‘wild beast’ and its ‘image,’ the United NATIONS........ Do I have to remind you that they were caught in bed with the same UN for 10 years under the disguise of just making use of the UN library 😂🤣😂🤣
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by bobestman(m): 2:56pm On Dec 18, 2024
All your religions know truth in parts and lies in part. No one is better. As we have former JW 's so we have former Deeper life, living Faith, Rccg etc

Since many are comfortable with the path they choosed cos they find it difficult to look within and tap from the truth hidden within them, let them focus on the path comfortable for them for in the time of RESTORATION you shall all know the truth and only that truth can set you free.

The goal is Righteousness cos all are in Isi/sin/blindness/Ignorance and can only know the truth in time of RESTITUTION of all things

For now focus on your path and that which is important 👉 RIGHTEOUSNESS, if thou be worthy at the time of RECONCILIATION, you shall be shown the FORTH
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:38am On Dec 19, 2024
American historian Richard Hofstadter calls the “paranoid style,” and as he says: “A fundamental paradox of the paranoid style is the imitation of the enemy.

What the catholic were for thousands of years one of the babies of protestanism copied and imitated within it's first hundred years grin cheesy grin cheesy

Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:30pm On Jan 05, 2025
Frequently Asked Questions
...
Is there a dress code?

No. However, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to dress modestly and respectfully.
Going by the letters and new light on beards and grooming.....

The Governing Body has decided that sisters may choose to wear slacks...they should not be casual, but dignified, modest, and appropriate.

When a sister has a part on the program, she should wear a skirt or a dress... In addition, brothers may choose not to wear a tie or a jacket when participating in the ministry and when attending Christian meetings, assemblies, and conventions... When a brother has a part on the program, he should wear a tie and a jacket if that is the standard of dress in that land.
Both side of the mouth. Double faced. Project A on the outside project B on the inside.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:01pm On Feb 09, 2025
w58 2/15 p. 106

The Growth of Papal Authority -

"That authority reaches out to the individual Catholic particularly through the priesthood. The position of the clergy was greatly enhanced as....it was enjoined on all to confess their sins to a priest ...What power was in their hands as they were called on by the Pope to oversee the important aspects of life...and to guide the consciences of men through the confessional[/b]al"

However, as I grew older I [b]realized that the Catholic Church
did not satisfy my spiritual needs. I could not understand, for example, why the clergy..... .... interested themselves in the personal affairs of others in the confessional.


Let's rephrase.........

The Growth of Governing Body Authority

"That authority reaches out to the individual Jehovah’s witnesses particularly through the elders. The position of the elders was greatly enhanced as....it was enjoined on all to confess their sins to body of elders ...What power was in their hands as they were called on by the Governing Body to oversee the important aspects of life...and to guide the consciences of men through the judicial committees"

However, as I grew older I realized that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses did not satisfy my spiritual needs. I could not understand, for example, why the elders ..... .... interested themselves in the personal affairs of others in those judicial committees.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MightySparrow: 1:58am On Feb 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I am a PRACTICING WITNESS OF JEHOVAH.

The thread is for FORMER JWs.

Do you understand now? wink
You are still related by shunning. grin
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 9:56pm On Mar 21, 2025
MightySparrow:
You are still related by shunning. grin
Loool
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey:
Janosky:
Any man who always spends his time, money and energy to abuse, denigrate , insult and defame his former partner he called off their relationship, that man has deep seated very, serious personality flaws and very seriously ment.

That abusive man is largely responsible for the breakup of the relationship, no matter their excuses on social media or this forum to polish their own image and play the victim card.
Apostates are WAILING WAILERS whose motive is very vindictive,malicious & hatred for JW's.
. That is what Apostates do.


Their evil motives exposes their folly and fictitious claim of following the right path.
(How does hatred for JW's translate to your following the right path?)
You can not claim to love God whom you can not see & use this forum spread abuse,hatred against JW's whom you see.
John the apostle made that point clearly .

Your ex won't ever be perfect, but deserves a part on the back for putting up with the toxic WAILING WAILER who left the relationship.
Like wise, JW's deserve commendation for putting up with an abusive vindictive person with deep seated personality flaws with over bloated ego of self importance.
Apostates are sifia pained WAILING WAILERS.

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The main problem about this werey peddling brain is projecting their failings and failures in bold on apostates grin cheesy grin cheesy

Any man who always spends his time, money and energy to abuse, denigrate , insult and defame his former partner he called off their relationship, that man has deep seated very, serious personality flaws and very seriously ment.
Over the years Jehovah's witnesses all over the world have contributed to Nairaland most of their post are about abuse, denigrate, defame those they call all sorts of names like

1. Faithless miscreants
2. Churchgoers
3. Lie lie Christians
4. False Christians
5. Christendom
6. Dogheads worshipers
7. Pastorpreneurs

Their religious organization are the leading organization who right from their existence had published books after books after books with voluntary donations, those books are filled with numerous bile, venom and utter disregard, disrespect of the very same people that give those donations for any other religious organization. Below are examples of such book

1. Religion
2. Babylon they great has fallen

Both are filled with so many illustrations to denigrate those they call Christendom. Their deep seated personality flaw as a religious organization stems from the simple fact that before they can advance anything that they call truth they must first label other Christian denomination, false Christians or false doctrine or Satan's agent in order to elevate themselves and give themselves good standing. That's where the werey peddlings of Janosky originated from. cheesy grin cheesy

That abusive man is largely responsible for the breakup of the relationship, no matter their excuses on social media or this forum to polish their own image and play the victim card.
When those they call apostates write by stating Jehovah's witnesses are fornicators, wife beaters, homosexuals, child abusers, murderers, wife swappers, adulterers seen from even among the prominent members of Jehovah's witnesses according to Jehovah's Witnesses like Janosky the JaNosense they are abusive apostates and the apostates coming out to say so and expose such flaws is the reason they are responsible for the break up. Apostates are meant to sweep it under the carpets under the guise of leaving not breaking the relationship but apostates are free to keep silent under all forms of such abuse in order to polish the face of the so called fraud of a Jehovah's organization and that the organization throws the blame on others and claim victim as it is being played in numerous court cases all over the world. grin cheesy grin grin

Apostates are WAILING WAILERS whose motive is very vindictive,malicious & hatred for JW's
Projectors of their flaws on others. Their first 50 years is filled with wailing upon wailings upon wailings that Babylon the great has fallen, all sorts of description, denigrating up till today they are still peddling wailings about other Christian denominations. Even when those other denomination say Jehovah is God, it does not matter. What counts is as long as they are not Jehovah's witnesses they are bad and fit for destruction.

That is what Apostates do.
Exactly what the so called Jehovah's organization had done using their money and money of those they call Christendom gave them voluntarily for that matter. Is that not vindictive, malicious and utter hatred and disdain for other Christian denomination? cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Their evil motives exposes their folly and fictitious claim of following the right path.
The evil motive of Jehovah's Witnesses is seen in books like

1. Millions now living will never die book
2. Babylon the great has fallen.
3. Studies in the scriptures


These books are not only no longer in print. In fact their congregations don't have it on their bookshelf [/b]and [b]many of the things called spiritual food in due season contained in those books are found to be utter lies, manipulations, folly and fictitious claims about other Christian denomination. They are terribly ashamed to even reference those books as having to do with truth. For example it is in such books you get to see

1. Pope being referred to as Archangel Michael

2. Charles Russell as one of the 7 militant of the gospel alongside John, Waldo Luther e.t.c cheesy grin cheesy
3. That Charles Russell the founder of the the religious organization is the angel Revelation 14 and the rest grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

How does hatred for JW's translate to your following the right path?
Their Governing body had repeatedly shown hatred for apostates up to the extent of

1. Using a matchstick and matches box to illustrate how apostates will go up in flames.
2. They equally show hatred by saying apostates are mentally diseased cheesy cheesy cheesy
3. Treat them as the poison they are.
4. Therefore, no loyal modern-day witness of Jehovah would greet a disfellowshipped or disassociated apostate or allow that one to use his Christian home as a place from which to spread doctrinal error. Surely, there would be grave accountability before God if a believer extended hospitality to an apostate and this resulted in the spiritual death of a fellow worshiper of Jehovah.

5. Apostates often appeal to the ego, claiming that we have been deprived of our freedoms, including the freedom to interpret the Bible for ourselves.

6. Modern-day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the Devil

You can not claim to love God whom you can not see & use this forum spread abuse,hatred against JW's whom you see.
A confirmation that your werey peddling brains are in pains and Lamentations that the same platform you are your likes called apostates platforms give you room to peddle your werey alongside your fraudulent doctrines called truth of God's words cheesy grin cheesy cheesy.

You Janosky aka JaNosense in particular cannot engage anyone here you called apostates without insults abuse, denigrating them. Your werey peddling, mumu and no get sense peddling brains emanate from such interaction that lacks love grin cheesy grin grin

John the apostle made that point clearly
And Janosky the werey peddling brains gladly go against the point to advance his mumu and no get sense peddling about what love is.

Your ex won't ever be perfect, but deserves a part on the back for putting up with the toxic WAILING WAILER who left the relationship
We know Jehovah's organization and Jehovah's witnesses loves hiding under we are imperfect slogan to play the victim of issues and project their insecurities on others. Those your werey peddling brains called toxic wailing wailers will be kicked out the moment they expose the fraud you called imperfections and your werey peddling brains will never ever pat them on the back for becoming those you call apostates because they saw many of the fraud that you later in life recognize as fraud you wanted and killed them over.

Like wise, JW's deserve commendation for putting up with an abusive vindictive person with deep seated personality flaws with over bloated ego of self importance.
You should worship Christendom and Babylon the great for the fact that they kept growing and keep growing up till today despite the lies, vindictive and fraud of Jehovah's organization that Babylon the great had fallen and that 99.9% of the worlds population are doomed for destruction grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Apostates are sifia pained WAILING WAILERS.
Rather Jehovah's organization cannot be raised high and above without denigrating and undermining the words of those they call apostates through sifia pained peddling, wailing wailers regarding apostates. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Your werey peddling brains must reset by force.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:49pm On May 04, 2025
Here we go...

Jehovah’s Witnesses

Definition: The worldwide Christian society of people who actively bear witness regarding Jehovah God and his purposes affecting mankind. They base their beliefs solely on the Bible.
Two things here:

1. Jehovah's witnesses are a Christian religious denominations (Christendom) and therefore a sect under the Christian religion or Christianity as it were.

2. The beliefs or doctrine regarding blood fractions or components are definitely not on the Bible. The belief that the last day began in 1914 is not definitely from the Bible. The belief that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 is not of the Bible. The belief that Matthew 24:44,45 is about some men housed in USA is not of the Bible. The belief that God is using a religious organization associated with the Watchtower as sole channel to bring people to salvation, road to everlasting life and correct interpretation of the Bible is definitely not of the Bible.


More to come......
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 9:57pm On May 04, 2025
Since 1st June 2024, 12 months ago, only 6 page of WAILING WAILERS consoling themselves.

As e dey sweet us Omo e dey pain them.

grin grin grin grin grin

Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:04pm On May 05, 2025
Janosky:
Since 1st June 2024, 12 months ago, only 6 page of WAILING WAILERS consoling themselves.

As e dey sweet us Omo e dey pain them.

grin grin grin grin grin
We know your wailing and wailers brains cannot avoid the exposure so you have to bring your usual deflectors items. cheesy grin grin
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:31pm On May 05, 2025
Question

Are Jehovah’s Witnesses an American religion?
Answer........

They are advocates of God’s Kingdom, not of the political, economic, or social system of any nation of this old world.
The above is deflectors items to deceive or divert attention from the main fact. Then........

It is true that Jehovah’s Witnesses had their modern-day start in the United States. The location of their world headquarters there has helped to make it possible to print and ship Bible literature to most parts of the world. But the Witnesses do not favor one nation over another; they are found in almost every nation, and they have offices in many parts of the earth to supervise their activity in those areas.
The bold tells you the real details after deflecting. Jehovah's witnesses modern day religion starts in the United States of America and it is from America set up by an American, all it's control and structures extended elsewhere comes from America simple.

Consider: Jesus as a Jew was born in Palestine, but Christianity is not a Palestinian religion, is it?
Another means to deflect.

The place of Jesus’ human birth is not the most important factor to consider
.

That which is consider as not important becomes important when they start examining the religion of others.

For example they stated about Seventh Day Adventist.......

This is the largest of some 200 Adventist denominations. Their name is based on belief in the second coming, or advent, of Christ. The Adventists stem from Baptist lay minister William Miller’s movement of the early 1840’s.
You can see here they attached a name to the movement as added means to describe it.

What Jesus taught originated with his Father, Jehovah God, who deals impartially with people of all nations.—John 14:10; Acts 10:34, 35.
What all other Christian religious denominations say they teach equally originate from God who they belief deals impartially with people.


More to follow
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:24pm On May 06, 2025
The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, a legal religious corporation that is used by Jehovah’s Witnesses, was incorporated in 1884 in accordance with the Nonprofit Corporation Law of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, U.S.A. Thus, by law it cannot be, and it is not, a profit-making enterprise, nor do individuals make a profit through this Society. The Society’s charter states: “It [the Society] does not contemplate pecuniary gain or profit, incidentally or otherwise, to its members, directors or officers.”
What is captured in the bold is vital when engaging them. That concocted Jehovah's organization na man made organization licensed according to them by Satan's agent to be not a profit making enterprise.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:05pm On May 08, 2025
In continuation....

How old is the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses?
Their answer:

According to the Bible, the line of witnesses of Jehovah reaches back to faithful Abel.
Abel or any other Bible character back in time were never addressed as Jehovah's Witnesses. The line of witnesses of Jehovah is not a name but an action by numerous individuals. Witnessing about Jehovah is not a religion, nowhere in the Bible says witnessing about Jehovah means you are in a religion.

There global news stated.......

Ninety Years Embracing the Name Jehovah’s Witnesses
On Sunday, July 26, 1931, Brother Joseph F. Rutherford, then president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, spoke to an audience of over 15,000 people at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A. A portion of the program was broadcast on over 450 radio stations worldwide in what was at the time the most extensive radio chain broadcast ever to air. Brother Rutherford also presented a historic resolution entitled “A New Name.” It contained the statement: “We desire to be known as and called by the name, to wit, Jehovah’s witnesses.” (See the box “ The Resolution.”) The audience responded in approval with a resounding “Aye!” and erupted in thunderous applause.
A new name in year 1931. What is the old name of the religion since the name Jehovah's witnesses is a new name of the religion.



According to the Bible, the line of witnesses of Jehovah reaches back to faithful Abel. Hebrews 11:4–12:1 says: “By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain . . . By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear . . . By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed in going out into a place he was destined to receive as an inheritance . . . By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh, choosing to be ill-treated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin . . . So, then, because we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us.”
A classic case of rewriting the scriptures to fit cooked doctrines or shoe horn Bible into doctrines.

With reference to Jesus Christ, the Bible states: “These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God.” Of whom was he a witness? He himself said that he made his Father’s name manifest. He was the foremost witness of Jehovah.—Rev. 3:14; John 17:6
.

Another classic case of rewriting or making scriptures fit ready made doctrines. In content and context Revelation 3:14, John 17:6 have nothing to do with the name of a religion or Jesus being a Jehovah's witness in name.


Now the laughable part of this explanation....

Interestingly, some of the Jews asked whether the activity of Jesus Christ represented “a new teaching.” (Mark 1:27) Later, some Greeks thought the apostle Paul was introducing a “new teaching.” (Acts 17:19, 20) It was new to the ears of those who were hearing it, but the important thing was that it was the truth, in full harmony with God’s Word.
Read those two scriptures cited in the quote above. It was made for you to reason that the religion Jehovah's witnesses had existed in times past but those in Jesus time and Paul's time thinks and feel it is new. Read those accounts, it has nothing to do with a new religion or the name Jehovah's witnesses in content and context.

The modern-day history of Jehovah’s Witnesses began with the forming of a group for Bible study in Allegheny, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., in the early 1870’s. At first they were known only as Bible Students, but in 1931 they adopted the Scriptural name Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Isa. 43:10-12) Their beliefs and practices are not new but are a restoration of first-century Christianity
Like they use to do deflect and divert through revisionist ideologies then come back to admit the reality only this time this below......

The modern-day history of Jehovah’s Witnesses began
should be written as.....

The modern-day religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses began
Because those they talked about are never called Jehovah's witnesses in name by anybody in content and context of the Bible and what they call adopting a scriptural name based on Isaiah 43:10 - 12 is a case of God telling Israel what they are to do regarding his ways and not giving them a name. Then this........

Their beliefs and practices are not new but are a restoration of first-century Christianity
Just two examples why the bold is a lie and manipulations being advanced.

1. Jesus the master and overseer of faith last words stated they should be witnesses of him(Jesus). The overseer of the faith they have said they should witness about him they said No, we will witness about Jehovah grin cheesy cheesy

2. Peter admit during their own time just like Paul that they were in the last days, Jehovah's Witnesses of today belief the last days started in year 1914.

They are not restoring Christianity, they are advancing their numerous religious doctrines and ideology under the cloak of the Bible just like every other denominations out there.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:50pm On May 11, 2025
Question.....

Do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that their religion is the only right one?
Their response.....

The Bible does not agree with the modern view that there are many acceptable ways to worship God.
So what's the acceptable way of worshipping God? They continue......

Ephesians 4:5 says there is “one Lord, one faith.”
Even those they call Christendom and trinity worshipers teach and believe they have One God and one Lord and their faith is one not two or threegrin cheesy


Jesus stated: “Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.
Jesus is not talking about worship or religion here in content and context.

. . . Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.”—Matt. 7:13, 14, 21
Here too has nothing to do with religion or acceptable way of worship in content and context

see also 1 Corinthians 1:10.
Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.

This scripture is not talking in content and context how to worship God and acceptable way of worship. Just the usual way of trying to force the scriptures to support lies and manipulations.

Repeatedly the Scriptures refer to the body of true Christian teachings as “the truth,” and Christianity is spoken of as “the way of the truth.” (1 Tim. 3:15; 2 John 1; 2 Pet. 2:2)
Let's see how the scriptures support the point made......

1 Timothy 3:15 but in case I am delayed, so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in God’s household, which is the congregation of the living God, a pillar and support of the truth.

God's word contains the truth, Jesus said he is the truth, body of Christian teaching is not the foundation of the truth, that's why Paul warned they should conduct themselves well, their conduct regarding the truth not the congregation manufactured truth to avoid corrupting what they are pillars and as it were support.

2 John 1 The older man* to the chosen lady and to her children, whom I truly love, and not only I but also all those who have come to know the truth

The truth they know is not the name of a religion or acceptable way of worship or a body of Christian teachings grin cheesy cheesy

2 Peter 2:2  Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct,*+ and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.

Nothing here about religion or acceptable way of worship already established in God's word and here more about conduct again rather than body of Christian teachings

Because Jehovah’s Witnesses base all of their beliefs, their standards for conduct, and organizational procedures on the Bible, their faith in the Bible itself as God’s Word gives them the conviction that what they have is indeed the truth.
Jesus says he is the truth. Read the above, nothing about having Jesus. Many are aware of the many doctrines, beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses that they say 100% is Bible based that they have come to be tagged previous understanding, past understanding, Bible belief clarifiedgrin cheesy

We have come to see in recent times how wearing beards for men and slacks, pants for women banned and reinstated. In fact they chastise members for even raising questions whether men will wear beards in God's kingdom as unnecessary questions during these times. Even reporting hours of field service scrapped in some areas. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Organization procedures on cases of child abuse is an eye sore. In fact it took the intervention of those they call Satan's agent to correct their organization procedures and adopt better redress scheme for victims. grin cheesy cheesy

Finally on this particular section, many Christian denomination have firm conviction in the Bible as God's words in fact defended it more even before the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses came into existence +/-150 years ago. Jehovah's witnesses should be grateful to the fight put by many Christian denomination regarding the existence of the Bible. grin cheesy grin grin


So their position is not egotistical but demonstrates their confidence that the Bible is the right standard against which to measure one’s religion.
It becomes egotistical from the face they always compare their religious denominations with others and denigrate others in order to lift their religious denomination.

Philippians 2: 3......Do nothing out of contentiousness+ or out of egotism,+ but with humility* consider others superior to you,+ 4  as you look out not only for your own interests,+ but also for the interests of others.+

What do their members do here, always telling other Christian denomination they are false Christians and not performing performance group than them. grin cheesy cheesy

They are not self-centered but are eager to share their beliefs with others.
Not self centered when it comes to recruitment of people into their religious organization. Any person that tells them right from the start he/she is not interested in being one of Jehovah's Witnesses whenever they preach or study with that person is discarded immediately. grin cheesy cheesy
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 7:44pm On May 25, 2025
It is only in one verse of the Bible the commandment not to eat the bread and wine came from...

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord. 28  First let a man approve himself after scrutiny,y and only then let him eat of the loaf and drink of the cup. 29  For the one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment against himself.
In content and context it has nothing to do with heavenly hope or earthly hope. It has nothing to do with anointed Christians and non - anointed Christians.

Below is manipulations of the scriptures based on cooked doctrines....

Paul also helps us to understand that those with an earthly hope do not partake of the Memorial emblems. He said to anointed Christians: “For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.” (1 Cor. 11:26)
From the above two key words stand out

1. Earthly hope do not partake

2. He said to anointed Christians = heavenly hope Christians = partake

Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:07am On May 26, 2025
Question as usual from their publication...

Do not other religions also follow the Bible?
Their response....

Many use it to some extent.
The question they raised is not about use but follow. You see how manipulations starts? The fact of the matter is many Christian denominations follow the Bible even far better than Jehovah's Witnesses. They went further...

But do they really teach and practice what it contains?
Their response.....

Consider: (1) From most of their Bible translations they have removed the name of the true God thousands of times.
Before Russell the founder was born the name Jehovah which they state is more popular than the correct name Yahweh was used by those they call Christendom. Despite stating the name was removed from the Bible many books, hymns still have the name Jehovah. In fact the point they made that the name was popular among the people of that times nullify the point made. The thousands of Bible translations Jehovah's Witnesses have in their libraries all over the world are the works of the many Christian denominations who had worked tirelessly and sacrificed their lives to have what is called the Bible today.

(2)The Trinity doctrine, their concept of God himself, is borrowed from pagan sources and was developed in its present form centuries after Bible writing was completed.
The word trinity is not found in the Bible and was never a topical discussion in the Bible. So is many of the doctrines and concepts developed using the Bible. The trinity though not a word in the Bible will in no way make adherent missed the essence knowing God, Jesus and holy spirit through the concept. That cannot be said about Jehovah's organization

3. Their belief in immortality of the human soul as the basis for continued life is not taken from the Bible; it has roots in ancient Babylon.
Another topic never discussed in the Bible just another topic created by men revolving around some Bible verses which can be debated for and against.

(4) The theme of Jesus’ preaching was the Kingdom of God, and he sent his disciples out to talk personally to others about it; but the churches today seldom mention that Kingdom and their members are not doing the work of preaching “this good news of the kingdom.” (Matt. 24:14)
You know lies and manipulations when you see one. I don't need to expansiate further. That others don't push their members out to preach in order to report hours is not a criteria for deciding whether other Christian denominations don't preach about God's kingdom. Jehovah’s witnesses are never known as waking up around 5am to 7 am in the early hours to preach about the kingdom of God. cheesy

(5) Jesus said that his true followers could be readily identified by their self-sacrificing love for one another. Is that true of the religions of Christendom when the nations go to war?
When a Soldier who is a Christian volunteers to go to war based on the directive of God's ministers in Romans 13: 1-5 to bring punishment against evildoers and self defense their nation against evil a religious organization tells me it is not SELF SACRIFICING LOVE for fellow Christians, citizens even people that are not Christians cheesy grin cheesy grin

Note that they raised a question here that they can never answer. It is just another question to paint other Christian denomination in bad light. cheesy grin cheesy


(6) The Bible says that Christ’s disciples would be no part of the world, and it warns that whoever wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God; but the churches of Christendom and their members are deeply involved in the political affairs of the nations. (Jas. 4:4) In view of such a record, can it honestly be said that they really adhere to the Bible?
What dismantles this is that Jesus the lamb died for the world. The same Jesus said give to caesar what belongs to caesar. In fact the response Jesus gave here was a political issue regarding taxes. A thing of politics. Saying other Christian denomination are deep rooted in politics does not mean they don't adhere to the Bible. Many knows what the benefits of politics had done and follow the principle given by James, he who knows what is good and does not do it, it becomes a SIN.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:55am On Jun 07, 2025
Next installment.....

How do Jehovah’s Witnesses arrive at their explanation of the Bible?
Their answer....

A key factor is that the Witnesses really believe that the Bible is God’s Word and that what it contains is there for our instruction. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11)
Just like every other Christian denomination too really believe.

So they do not resort to philosophical arguments to evade its clear statements of truth or to justify the way of life of people who have abandoned its moral standards.
Most of what they now call Bible beliefs clarified are based on philosophical arguments that they had defended and are still defending as part of belief unique to Jehovah's witnesses. The belief about 144,000 thousand, 1914, blood transfusion doctrines, governmental authority, Neutrality, pyramidology, types and antitypes, wearing beards, slacks and pants for women, even sleeping with animals, homosexuality is not a basis divorce or classified adultery at one time, Jehovah's organization, are based on philosophical argument

Then....

In pointing out the meaning of symbolic language in the Bible, they let the Bible provide its own explanation, instead of giving their theories as to its significance. (1 Cor. 2:13)
Many of their religious publications published over the years are now classified to be destroyed, not fit for use because many of those books and publications contains many theories that has no correlations with what the Bible states clearly. For example, where in the Bible was any topic related to blood fractions or what they call minor components a conscientious matter as it applies to transfusion? They are simply theories

Indications as to the meaning of symbolic terms are usually found in other parts of the Bible. (As an example, see Revelation 21:1; then, regarding the meaning of “sea,” read Isaiah 57:20. To identify “the Lamb” referred to in Revelation 14:1, see John 1:29 and 1 Peter 1:19.)
Many of which they had manipulated to suit their precooked doctrines. Many of which they keep clarifying under adjustment or readjusted from past truth, present truth and future truth grin cheesy

As for fulfillment of prophecy, they apply what Jesus said about being alert to events that correspond to what was foretold. (Luke 21:29-31; compare 2 Peter 1:16-19.) Conscientiously they point out those events and draw attention to what the Bible indicates they mean.
Many of which they are now hiding under what we know and what we simply don't know after years of boasting about the end, predicting, forecasting, prophesying theories they cooked up and above the Bible grin cheesy

Jesus said that he would have on earth a “faithful and discreet slave” (his anointed followers viewed as a group), through which agency he would provide spiritual food to those making up the household of faith. (Matt. 24:45-47)
The above right here is the biggest of their theories that keeps the delusions in their midst going grin cheesy cheesy. Jesus never said a group, an agency, organization or some men housed in USA will be his faithful and discreet slave. You will never read Matthew 24:44,45 on your own and get inspired by the holy spirit that oh this is about 11 men called the Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy.

See it as what it is plain THEORIES, philosophical explanation they inherited from even other Christian denominations to control their members grin cheesy cheesy

Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that arrangement. As was true of first-century Christians, they look to the governing body of that “slave” class to resolve difficult questions—not on the basis of human wisdom, but by drawing on their knowledge of God’s Word and his dealings with his servants, and with the help of God’s spirit, for which they earnestly pray.—Acts 15:1-29; 16:4, 5.
There was never anything called Governing body in the time of the apostles. It is simply theories and philosophical explanation to assume authority over fellow Christians.cheesy cheesy cheesy

The summary of this latest installment about Jehovah's Witnesses is as long they have a section called BELIEFS CLARIFIED just know that they never belief completely that Bible can speak for itself. From the onset of that religious organization till today, they keep mixing Bible with cooked philosophical explanations.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:28pm On Jul 06, 2025
Samuel Herd: What I am about to reveal to you is not from anybody not even the Governing body but from Jehovah grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

That's how Jehovah ended being culprit of lies and manipulations.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:56pm On Jul 13, 2025
On GB Update # 4 Stephen Lett says (@ 12:33) :

"Another example is toasting or clinking glasses. For years Jehovah's Witnesses have avoided this practice because it may have had origins in false religion. However now, in most places, toasting or clinking glasses no longer has any religious association. It is viewed simply as a friendly custom. Therefore, after prayerful consideration, the Governing Body has concluded that there is no need to make a rule regarding toasting and clinking glasses. Each Christian should use the principles we have discussed in this update and his own Bible-trained conscience to make a good decision. What does this mean? Are we saying that toasting is ok now, at all times, and in every situation? Of course not. We are simply saying that there is no need to make a rule. Each Christian will need to use Bible principles to make a good decision in each instance..........


After prayerful consideration over friendly custom. Their foot soldiers will say their thinking and conscience are not regimented by their religious leaders like they accuse others. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 11:02am On Jul 31, 2025
There is no 1900 old faithful and discreet slave cool cool cool

Jehovah and Jesus did not need the no 1900 faithful and discreet slave to prepare the Bible. What is the one reason Jehovah needs them now? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 1:42pm On Jul 31, 2025
achorladey:
There is no 1900 old faithful and discreet slave cool cool cool

Jehovah and Jesus did not need the no 1900 faithful and discreet slave to prepare the Bible. What is the one reason Jehovah needs them now? cheesy grin cheesy grin
The most astonish part is that the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" is in SINGULAR form not in plural.

The Watchtower knows this as can be seen from their various publications that that illustration of Jesus was about just single SLAVE not SLAVES.

The question to JWs is:

If scripture talks about single SLAVE, how come Watchtower is interpreting it as MULTIPLE SLAVES despite acknowledged that it's just a single SLAVE? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:15pm On Jul 31, 2025
Emusan:
The most astonish part is that the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" is in SINGULAR form not in plural.

The Watchtower knows this as can be seen from their various publications that that illustration of Jesus was about just single SLAVE not SLAVES.

The question to JWs is:

If scripture talks about single SLAVE, how come Watchtower is interpreting it as MULTIPLE SLAVES despite acknowledged that it's just a single SLAVE? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Looool! You remember they do teach and preach about the faithful and discreet slave class. All those men are made singular by putting them in a class.

They later removed the class and left faithful and discreet slave.

The faithful and discreet slave” cannot be one person. Why not? Because the slave began serving spiritual food back in the first century, and according to Jesus, the slave would still be doing so when the Master arrived in 1914. That would represent some 1,900 years of faithful service for one individual. Not even Methuselah lived that long!​—Genesis 5:27
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 6:35pm On Jul 31, 2025
Courz:
I left the Cult once I realised it is indeed a Cult and A Business masquerading as a Religion. There were a lot of things that never made sense to me as a JW but indoctrination put all of that behind. So, in my case, it was an accumulation of doubts over the years. I also heard about the Child Sexual abuse problems during a Watchtower study and asked myself why a so called One True Religion should be battling with Child sexual abuse when throughout its greater part of its existence, it kept pointing fingers at the Catholic church for the same thing. During the Watchtower study, it was stated that JWS are now free to report a child sexual abuse case to the authorities, meaning, JWS were really told not to report but are now free to do so. This part didn't sit well with me. So, I googled Jehovah's Witnesses and Child sexual abuse and lo and behold, several news stories of CSA were online with many of them reporting that JWs were never allowed to report to the authorities with some of them punished for doing so.

After seeing all that, I gave myself the permission to research this Cult. I told Almighty God that He should show me everything. I told him that I must know everything no matter how shocking or overwhelming it is I can handle it and he did just that. He is still doing so till now. I kept stumbling into so much info even till this moment. I saw testimonies revealing the Occultic side of the Religion. I told myself that if I should see evidence about this aspect of the Cult, I'm done with It and will leave with my mind, body and Soul. I saw lots of evidence. Sometimes the evidence find me. There is a part of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society that is not being discussed online that I stumbled into from an African American JW (not an EXJW) who has Freemason family members. What this JW told me made me realise this Cult is part and parcel of the World System, in fact they are the main world players in the way the world is run.

I left once I saw the Occultic side of JW.
I hope MaxInDHouse is reading this. I pray that God will use you to deliver a few more others who are still in there. I also hope you have embraced the true gospel which is in Christ alone?
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:44pm On Jul 31, 2025
Ken4Christ:
I hope MaxInDHouse is reading this.
Funny Churchian! cheesy
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 9:00pm On Jul 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchian! cheesy
Repent before it's too late. You know your doctrines are full of lies. Maybe you are afraid of persecution when you renounce it. The choice is yours. Since you have chosen to spend eternity in burning hell, go on.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24pm On Jul 31, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Repent before it's too late. You know your doctrines are full of lies. Maybe you are afraid of persecution when you renounce it. The choice is yours. Since you have chosen to spend eternity in burning hell, go on.
Funny Churchian! cheesy
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:31pm On Aug 07, 2025
When the so called thinking and knowledge behind the spiritual food get examined you get the below. Even machines get to see the lies and manipulations going on.

Another look into the topic...... titled The King Shed Light On The Kingdom paragraphs 1 to 6 of the book Kingdom rules you get the below......


The result is a self validating loop. We were wrong in the past but that proves we are right today because being wrong shows we were humble and guided by Jesus.

That's not logical thinking. That's a narrative constructed to shield the religious organization from scrutiny and preserving unquestioning, blind trust and obedience.

In the words of the Splane...... It comes down to this friends, Do I really believe Jehovah is directing this organization today?
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey:
Watchtower March 15, 2004 page 19 paragraph 19

In chapter 3, the Knowledge book points out that the word “Trinity” does not appear in the Bible.
Use their own standard to check.....

Non-Biblical Words that are Fundamental to Jehovah's witnesses you will find the below as paramount..............

Organization

Governing body

Judicial committee

Judicial reproof

Restrictions

Pioneers

Special pioneers

Full time service

Special full time service

Blood fractions

Blood components

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Just look at the below quote from their religious publications to see the meaning of double standards in world of that religious organization....

Since the word “organization” does not occur in the Bible, even in its original languages, what right do we have to say that God has an organization or to speak of God’s organization? [..]
The word God's organization they know does not exist in the scriptures is the most used words in their religious publications grin grin grin grin You will never see Jehovah's witnesses preach and teach about Jehovah's organization being a false doctrine or teaching yet you see them say Trinity is a false doctrine based on count one charge of the word TRINITY DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE BIBLE

When you see pharisees and hypocrites you know one way to identify them.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21am On Aug 08, 2025
Just 6 pages after 404 days!
Surely you people do have a lot to share among yourselves as former Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

SunshineRays:
This thread will obviously be very long.
oteneaaron:
Let me park my car here.😁😁
This thread is going to be interesting.
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EmmyMaestro:
Hmmmmm, comments go plenty
Courz:
Happy to be part of this thread. I hope it doesn't get toxic but still information must be shared whether these people like it or not.
achorladey:
That's right. Regarding the words in bold as it applies to those on this platform, ChristianFreedo and rottennaija two of which I battled against. grin grin grin
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