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Here's the rest of the images from the same ChatGPT. i await your rebuttal o Boomark. No go get headache and sleepless night over ChatGPT. Let's discuss, human to human dear.

Round 4


Rebuttal:

That Jesus Christ is called God in the scripture does not in in any way support trinity because he has a God who he himself called the only true God. Jesus Christ himself showed us in the scripture how to distinguished between the Father, son, and the Holy spirit by telling us that the Father is the only true God, that he is the Son of God and the spirit he will ask from the Father is the Holy spirit. So the phrase God the Son is unscriptural and should not be used at all.

Jesus clearly told us that he has no authority of his own and that he was sent to do, not his will but the will of God the Father. The will of the Father is the salvation of mankind. This is the reason why God the Father (Yahweh) said, "there is no other saviour but me." Jesus is also called saviour because it is God the Father that made him a saviour also known as Messiah by using him to save the world. If God the Father refused to send him, he will not be called a saviour and the world will not be saved through him. So It is only God the Father that can say besides him there is no saviour. It is the will of God the Father, the only true God to save the world not the the will of Jesus Christ as Jesus himself said.

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is clearly the Father who sent Jesus. So God as saviour in the old testament does not apply to Jesus. LORD does not apply to Jesus also because LORD was used in place of Jehovah, the name of God the Father.

So It is the Father who is the only true saviour and redeemer by his will and he is the one that made Jesus a saviour and redeemer. Without the Father there won't be any saviour of the world. It is still only God the Father who is true saviour and not a trinity God.

Key verses:

Acts 3:13 LSB
[13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him.

Isaiah 47:4 AMP
Our Redeemer [will do all this], the LORD of hosts is His name, The Holy One of Israel.

1 Timothy 1:1 AMP
[1] Paul, an apostle (special messenger, personally chosen representative) of Christ Jesus by the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus (the Messiah, the Anointed) our Hope [the fulfillment of our salvation],

Titus 2:13 LSB
[13] looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Psalms 83:18 HCSB
[18] May they know that You alone — whose name is Yahweh — are the Most High over all the earth.

Psalm 83:18 NLT
Then they will learn that you alone are called the LORD, that you alone are the Most High, supreme over all the earth.

John 17:3 NIV
[3] Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

John 10:36 RSV
[36] do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?

John 14:26 NIV
[26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

John 12:49 NLT
[49] I don’t speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.

Luke 22:42 GNT
[42] “Father,” he said, “if you will, take this cup of suffering away from me. Not my will, however, but your will be done"

John 3:16-17 HCSB
[16] “For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send His Son into the world that He might condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

Acts 13:22-23 RSV
[22] And when he had removed him, he raised up David to be their king; of whom he testified and said, ‘I have found in David the son of Jesse a man after my heart, who will do all my will.’ [23] Of this man's posterity God has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus, as he promised.


Isaiah 43:11 HCSB
[11] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.

Acts 2:36 HCSB
[36] “Therefore let all the house of Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah! ”


Image123

Image123:
Here's the rest of the images from the same ChatGPT. i await your rebuttal o Boomark. No go get headache and sleepless night over ChatGPT. Let's discuss, human to human dear.

Please make a video of the instructions you gave to it from the beginning. You don't just send claims and rebuttal to it without instructions.

Image123:
i have to mention AI because it seems you depend a lot on it. i have simply told you that fact that AI depends on what you feed it.
You don't need faith, simply ask chatgpt and let's see the response. "does ai and ChatGPT depend on gigo" and "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?"
i did not ask you to ignore a phrase, i asked you to read to understand and not feed AI with misleading prompts. The Bible wasn't written in english dear, there's no going out to borrow anything.
2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 
Boomark says verse above never said anything about the Holy Spirit. We are expected to believe Boomark by faith.

Please show us where you saw "Holy spirit" in the verse you posted?

Boomark:
Please make a video of the instructions you gave to it from the beginning. You don't just send claims and rebuttal to it without instructions.

It's interesting that you don't believe me or trust me, despite attaching the images. You are on your own oh my dear. i told you what i did, you can do same at your end. i simply asked the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. You are simply asing AI to mark the arguments on their own merit, not on a forced conclusion that there must be a rebut of Jesus has a God.
A good thing about ChatGPT is that it always repeats or rephrases the question to you in its 1st paragraph in responding. You may check that also, since you are so keen. But for me to go and be doing screen recording and uploading on youtube, sorry dear. You can get the same results by following what i just said since you don't believe the images i posted.

Don't forget to ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"

Boomark:
Please show us where you saw "Holy spirit" in the verse you posted?

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord. Are you a robot?

Image123:
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord. Are you a robot?

Are you a liar?

Quote the verse and show the whole world where you see "Holy spirit"

Boomark:
Are you a liar?

Quote the verse and show the whole world where you see "Holy spirit"

Calm down, the whole world is not watching you. You're getting agitated. i never knew that i would meet someone argue that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of the Lord. Miracle no dey tire Jesus.

Image123:
It's interesting that you don't believe me or trust me, despite attaching the images. You are on your own oh my dear. i told you what i did, you can do same at your end. i simply asked the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. You are simply asing AI to mark the arguments on their own merit, not on a forced conclusion that there must be a rebut of Jesus has a God.
A good thing about ChatGPT is that it always repeats or rephrases the question to you in its 1st paragraph in responding. You may check that also, since you are so keen. But for me to go and be doing screen recording and uploading on youtube, sorry dear. You can get the same results by following what i just said since you don't believe the images i posted.

Don't forget to ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"

I don't believe you and I don't trust you.

How can I trust someone that didn't see a matchbox on a table but he is insisting there is a matchbox on it?

You didn't even do the right thing and you came out with pictures castigating the AI and making it look like I manipulate it. You removed the topic? So if you are into coding, you will remove the aim of your codes?

I told you and some other people that under normal condition the AI will favour trinitarians because almost all the church believe in it. So to avoid that I gave it instructions that will make it to remain neutral. It will not go outside to borrow information for the analysis.

Use the instructions as I posted it after Round 1. I would like to see what it gives in your own.

Image123:
Calm down, the whole world is not watching you. You're getting agitated. i never knew that i would meet someone argue that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of the Lord. Miracle no dey tire Jesus.

Now you have met me.

It is now very difficult to quote a single verse you used to defend a false doctrine and show us where you saw "Holy spirit?"

Or is it a spirit word?
And this is how you want us to discuss human to human?

Larying no dey tire satan

Image123:
Let me explain this to you like i said i'll try. You have fed AI with a topic: Is the Trinity biblical? And a subtopic that says "Jesus Christ has a God and His God is the Father. No one is against that claim, so automatically it's a setup for any rebut because there's even no rebut in the 1st place. Hence the claimant has the edge. In real life, we both claim that Jesus Christ has a God and His God is the Father. If you read me instead of merely feeding AI, you'd have seen the explanation.
i'll attach some screenshots from your video and then edit the prompt to prove to you that AI is GIGO and prompts can give a bias/wrong result.
In 1st image, ChatGPT explains about the subtopic given in the prompt. It changes the whole narrative as it's not rebutted. i gave an earlier example of a claimant saying Image123 does not appear in the Bible seven times. There's no rebuttal to that as no one alleged this in the first place. Automatically, any attempt to be at the rebutting end will be edged out regardless.
In 2nd image, did either side prove or avoid the point, you obviously see where this goes. There was no argument about the subtopic in the first instance, so the opposing side will be said to shift focus or not rebut. Classic GIGO
In the 3rd image attached, you see the reference to the subtopic again. The flawed feeding will definitely influence the AI. AI is not saying that Jesus is not God, but is responding to what it was fed, that there MUST be a rebuttal to the subtopic, which is affirmed by both sides. Of course, no point for rebut. Na who need point know how to get point oh.
In the 4th image below, the rebuttal did not overturn the main point, which is a flawed subtopic fed to the AI.

In my next post, i'll try to attach what the same ChatGPT says when fed just the arguments, same rules and prompts without a flawed topic/subtopic.

What do you mean by flawed subtopic? So in you don't write topic before copying all the notes you copied. You see topics in text books?

The problem is not AI but you. I told you that you are talking of point but you didn't realise it just as you didn't realise that there is no Holy spirit in 2 Corinthians 3:17.

Let me show you how you are talking of point in the screenshot below. AI was right. You could not overturn the subtopic.

1. First screenshot.
You agreed that the there is no arguments against my subtopic. In other words you have agreed that Jesus has a God and his God is the Father. But instead of throwing in the towel, you on to start saying things that could not counter my claim. You forgot I used key bible verses to support that subtopic. You even made a fatal blunder by saying that God the Father also has a God and never told us who his God is. You quoted Hebrew 1:8 and left out verse 9. Our aim here is not to deceive people and win argument. Don't even try to say this kind of thing again.

2. 2nd screenshot
You said Jesus made everything. This never opposed the subtopic which are back by scriptures. You left weightier matters to attack little things. You could not overturn the subtopic.

3. Screenshot
Jesus also claimed to be more powerful.

This is out of point

4. Screenshot

Still out of point because it didn't oppose the fact that Jesus has a God. Out of point.

So this is the reason you fail. You things that are off point.

If you you analyse my rebuttals you will see that I oppose you word for word. And most importantly those ones that are connected your subtopic. I present key verses to show that they are false. This is one that counts.

Nobody does anything stating their topic. The fault is from you not the subtopic.

By the way you are gradually shifting away from your main topic which is trinity. I noticed it in round 3. What ever subtopic you present must reflect support for trinity.

Not heard from Boomark yet, hope he's fine? Or he's coding a new AI?

Boomark:
Round 4


Rebuttal:

That Jesus Christ is called God in the scripture does not in in any way support trinity because he has a God who he himself called the only true God. Jesus Christ himself showed us in the scripture how to distinguished between the Father, son, and the Holy spirit by telling us that the Father is the only true God, that he is the Son of God and the spirit he will ask from the Father is the Holy spirit. So the phrase God the Son is unscriptural and should not be used at all.

Evidently, you do not know or understand what people who believe in Trinity do or teach. The Trinity doctrine teaches that the Father is God and He is over all. Your robotic attempt to keep proving that is laughable, it was never disputed. i have used an illustration with my name a couple of times but it seems to fly past your head. ia am not arguing that you're not Boomark. You shouting and repeating "I am Boomark, I am Boomark" is ridiculous, there's no contest or rebuttal in such a claim. Feeding such to AI is unproductive and a mockery of technology. Use your God given brain dear. Again, no one that believes in Trinity will tell you that The Father is not God, whether of Jesus Christ or of anyone else. We also teach and believe this. Your insistence that it must be rebutted shows you're just here to joke and not discuss. Understand what you are discussing and challenging. That Jesus Christ is God is why He is called God the Son. You continue to ignore this simple fact for whatever reasons. How can Jesus Christ being God not support Trinity, what sort of joke is this? The Bible says Jesus is God, you don't clearly agree or disagree but insist that it should not be used at all. Which kain wahala be this? Should the term 'Bible' also not be used since we don't find it in the Bible? Was the Bible written in English?

Jesus clearly told us that he has no authority of his own and that he was sent to do, not his will but the will of God the Father. The will of the Father is the salvation of mankind. This is the reason why God the Father (Yahweh) said, "there is no other saviour but me." Jesus is also called saviour because it is God the Father that made him a saviour also known as Messiah by using him to save the world. If God the Father refused to send him, he will not be called a saviour and the world will not be saved through him. So It is only God the Father that can say besides him there is no saviour. It is the will of God the Father, the only true God to save the world not the the will of Jesus Christ as Jesus himself said.

This was not a claim so i wonder what you are rebutting here.The claim was clear; Jesus Christ is called God in the scriptures. He carries out divine functions of Saviour and Redeemer in a sense like no other being aside from God. Try going point by point instead of running all over the place without a good plan except an AI one That way, you can probably pick up at least 1 lesson. It is all these jumbling that makes you run around in circles, which prompted you to seek AI to help you in the first instance. If you calm down, discuss step by step and point by point, like they say line upon line, you'd be better for it.
Jesus is called Saviour and there's no other Saviour beside God. Clear and clean. All these reasons are not needed or valid in the discussion. You're stepping outside to get these. i'll be very surprised now if AI doesn't pick up these roaming around. i will now pay some more attention to your AI thing to help you the 2 months user do things better for yourself.

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is clearly the Father who sent Jesus. So God as saviour in the old testament does not apply to Jesus. LORD does not apply to Jesus also because LORD was used in place of Jehovah, the name of God the Father.

So It is the Father who is the only true saviour and redeemer by his will and he is the one that made Jesus a saviour and redeemer. Without the Father there won't be any saviour of the world. It is still only God the Father who is true saviour and not a trinity God.

You must still prove this your LORD and Lord thing from the Bible oh, not by faith. You must use it as one of your claims and proof. What part of the Bible says that LORD is the Father alone and not the Son? This your rebuttal that was endless, are you saying Jesus Christ is not Saviour, since the Father is the true Saviour?

Boomark:
I don't believe you and I don't trust you.

How can I trust someone that didn't see a matchbox on a table but he is insisting there is a matchbox on it?

You didn't even do the right thing and you came out with pictures castigating the AI and making it look like I manipulate it. You removed the topic? So if you are into coding, you will remove the aim of your codes?

I told you and some other people that under normal condition the AI will favour trinitarians because almost all the church believe in it. So to avoid that I gave it instructions that will make it to remain neutral. It will not go outside to borrow information for the analysis.

Use the instructions as I posted it after Round 1. I would like to see what it gives in your own.

But you trust and believe ChatGPT na, or are you afraid to ask it? Simply say, remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. i think your belief is that AI doesn't change and that it is not based on what you feed it. Ohhh, come oh, did you ask already and you're shy to say? Because all this beating around the bush is suspect.

Get it right, the aim of the code or AI prompt was clearly stated by you. Here they are. You wrote them yourself, remember?

Please analyze both responses and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?

This is the main thing you should be after instead of being scared about the topic change/removal. Rebuttal is an english word dear. The AI will check if the topic is rebutted, it cannot be neutral to the topic, it is SUBJECT to the topic. Don't take my word alone for it as you evidently do not believe me. Simply ask lord AI "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral?" You need to think and analyse your aim of the discussion. Is it for rebutting topics nobody is arguing about or the above quote? Who is using scriptures accurately, or in context? Who is proving the point or avoiding the point, and who is based on the Bible? As i have repeated, i don't depend on AI for such, but since you believe so much in AI, then set your priorities and focus properly.


P.S i didn't find the instructions you posted after round 1. Are they significantly different from the OP? If yes, please show me and kindly edit the OP to reflect what you are using.

Boomark:
Now you have met me.

It is now very difficult to quote a single verse you used to defend a false doctrine and show us where you saw "Holy spirit?"

Or is it a spirit word?
And this is how you want us to discuss human to human?

Larying no dey tire satan

Again, you evaded the question. Here it is again.
1. So, Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of the Lord?

Boomark:
What do you mean by flawed subtopic? So in you don't write topic before copying all the notes you copied. You see topics in text books?

The problem is not AI but you. I told you that you are talking of point but you didn't realise it just as you didn't realise that there is no Holy spirit in 2 Corinthians 3:17.

Let me show you how you are talking of point in the screenshot below. AI was right. You could not overturn the subtopic.

1. First screenshot.
You agreed that the there is no arguments against my subtopic. In other words you have agreed that Jesus has a God and his God is the Father. But instead of throwing in the towel, you on to start saying things that could not counter my claim. You forgot I used key bible verses to support that subtopic. You even made a fatal blunder by saying that God the Father also has a God and never told us who his God is. You quoted Hebrew 1:8 and left out verse 9. Our aim here is not to deceive people and win argument. Don't even try to say this kind of thing again.

2. 2nd screenshot
You said Jesus made everything. This never opposed the subtopic which are back by scriptures. You left weightier matters to attack little things. You could not overturn the subtopic.

3. Screenshot
Jesus also claimed to be more powerful.

This is out of point

4. Screenshot

Still out of point because it didn't oppose the fact that Jesus has a God. Out of point.

So this is the reason you fail. You things that are off point.

If you you analyse my rebuttals you will see that I oppose you word for word. And most importantly those ones that are connected your subtopic. I present key verses to show that they are false. This is one that counts.

Nobody does anything stating their topic. The fault is from you not the subtopic.

By the way you are gradually shifting away from your main topic which is trinity. I noticed it in round 3. What ever subtopic you present must reflect support for trinity.

Lolz. Reading this shows that you actually understand what i have been saying. See me thinking of helping you, poor me
Firstly, there's a lot of poor writing and grammatical errors in your posts, i need to struggle and assume your position to easily understand what you are typing. Try to do some revision/review before posting.
Think of your life, are you here to argue about suitable subtopics or to actually know if the Son is not God and the Spirit is not God? For the umpteenth time, every christian says that God the Father is God, that is why we are THEISTS. You can't force me to argue that He is not God because you have written some topic or subtopic. Are you looking for the overturning of topics and subtopics or for truth?
i have not blamed AI but showed you that AI is GIGO and you need to be careful what you feed it if you want good and not skewed analysis. Remember you said that you're just 2 months old in this. Take advice from an older more experienced user. Be humble.

Remember, you are arguing that the Father is God, no one is arguing against that, i am not. We are both arguing that the Father is God, nothing to rebut or overturn. The DIFFERENCE you think the Father alone is God. We say and i say that the Son is also God and the Spirit is God. That is what you should try to disprove or believe, rebut or accept.
i'll help repost what your AI said about Hebrew 1:8.

Image123:
Again, you evaded the question. Here it is again.
1. So, Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of the Lord?

In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy spirit" is not the spirit of the Lord.


I have made bold so you see it properly incase you didn't see my previous answer.

If you say it is, show show me where you see Holy spirit in that verse.


I have also made it bold so you don't pretend you didn't see it or understand what I said. So answer my request.

Image123:
Lolz. Reading this shows that you actually understand what i have been saying. See me thinking of helping you, poor me
Firstly, there's a lot of poor writing and grammatical errors in your posts, i need to struggle and assume your position to easily understand what you are typing. Try to do some revision/review before posting.
Think of your life, are you here to argue about suitable subtopics or to actually know if the Son is not God and the Spirit is not God? For the umpteenth time, every christian says that God the Father is God, that is why we are THEISTS. You can't force me to argue that He is not God because you have written some topic or subtopic. Are you looking for the overturning of topics and subtopics or for truth?
i have not blamed AI but showed you that AI is GIGO and you need to be careful what you feed it if you want good and not skewed analysis. Remember you said that you're just 2 months old in this. Take advice from an older more experienced user. Be humble.

Remember, you are arguing that the Father is God, no one is arguing against that, i am not. We are both arguing that the Father is God, nothing to rebut or overturn. The DIFFERENCE you think the Father alone is God. We say and i say that the Son is also God and the Spirit is God. That is what you should try to disprove or believe, rebut or accept.
i'll help repost what your AI said about Hebrew 1:8.

My brother I don't know if you enjoy falsehood or that you don't really understand English. I don't even know what to call this thing I bolded.

You said I am arguing that the Father is God in your comment which I bolded. I don't know whether to call this a false accusation or lack of understanding of english. I am not arguing anything. I made a good claim that the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ. That the Father is God over all. That the Father is the God of Gods.

You can't use distorted words to pull me down to the level in your comment so you can gain a point. The things I bolded is where your trinity doctrine cannot reach. I know what am doing. You don't understand them because you go outside the bible to borrow the things believe in. See the screenshots or go to page 1 and see my claim clearly. They are all in the bible as I wrote them.

Stop lying against me and stop talking out of point.

You have also proven that you don't obey instructions. Or don't you understand english. See the screenshots where I said that you either support a claim or make a rebuttal. I thought you will support most of the things I wrote. After saying their is no argument against my subtopic you will go ahead and start making rebuttal that is off point.

Please I need a video of what you fed to ChatGPT. Start on new page in your ChatGPT. I don't trust you. See my response to you last night which was removed. I screenshoted it before refreshing the page.

Boomark:
In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy spirit" is not the spirit of the Lord.


I have made bold so you see it properly incase you didn't see my previous answer.

If you say it is, show show me where you see Holy spirit in that verse.


I have also made it bold so you don't pretend you didn't see it or understand what I said. So answer my request.

Ahhhh, Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord except in a particular verse. Wonderful.
Where are the answers to my questions and your next claim?

Image123:
Ahhhh, Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord except in a particular verse. Wonderful.
Where are the answers to my questions and your next claim?

Let me help you since it is difficult for you. Check some translations and you will see what you should be showing me.

Use scripture and prove your point and not by begging me to accept. Oya go and check.

I have been preparing a response to that with almost the whole of chapter 3 and part of chapter 4. I will post it this night or tomorrow. It will certainly be in the right context.

Boomark:
My brother I don't know if you enjoy falsehood or that you don't really understand English. I don't even know what to call this thing I bolded.

You said I am arguing that the Father is God in your comment which I bolded. I don't know whether to call this a false accusation or lack of understanding of english. I am not arguing anything. I made a good claim that the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ. That the Father is God over all. That the Father is the God of Gods.

You can't use distorted words to pull me down to the level in your comment so you can gain a point. The things I bolded is where your trinity doctrine cannot reach. I know what am doing. You don't understand them because you go outside the bible to borrow the things believe in. See the screenshots or go to page 1 and see my claim clearly. They are all in the bible as I wrote them.

Stop lying against me and stop talking out of point.

You have also proven that you don't obey instructions. Or don't you understand english. See the screenshots where I said that you either support a claim or make a rebuttal. I thought you will support most of the things I wrote. After saying their is no argument against my subtopic you will go ahead and start making rebuttal that is off point.

Please I need a video of what you fed to ChatGPT. Start on new page in your ChatGPT. I don't trust you. See my response to you last night which was removed. I screenshoted it before refreshing the page.

It's not a lie, you are arguing that the Father is God, YES. To "argue" implies putting forth a claim. An argument is essentially a claim supported by reasons and evidence. More specifically, or word-for-word, you are arguing that the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ. Again, no one disputes this, we also teach it. The difference is the ALSO, we also teach that Jesus is the only true God, and the Spirit is the only true God. The same goes for being God over all, and God of gods. This has already been explained in the rounds, except you want it re-explained.
There's no distortion in saying that you claim that the Father is God, especially when i have earlier elaborated in the rounds. If you don't feel that the Father is God, then you can claim it as a distortion. you don't have to talk or think like a robot, like we've never had previous discussions and everything has to be repeated every single time. The teaching of trinity reaches and largely SURPASSES your teaching. That's why there's disagreement in the first place. That the Godhead is not just the Father, but the Son and the Spirit.

Lol, i just saw your support a claim thing though. i guess i understood your procedure as strictly a claim and rebuttal thing. That's why i use to say that i wait for your rebuttal. Nonetheless, that does not significantly change much except in your feeding of AI.
As you don't trust me or the images and text that that posted from ChatGPT, you don't need to go through the pain of trusting my video. It can be doctored you know? Here's the easy straightforward thing to do, which i suspect you have already done but you're too shy to tell us.

1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

Round 1 you claim
we all, including Jesus Christ, have one God. And that one God is the Father not three persons. All the sentences and key verses that follow show what we both agree in bold. It is only right that i set you right to explain that Jesus is also one God and He is our God, the Spirit is also one God and He is our God.

Round 3, you claim again
Jesus Christ has a God. His God is the Father and the explanation still rotates around the similar thing. God over all. If you pause and ponder you'll notice that you're just spinning around. Let's hope there's something new in Round 5 though

Boomark:
Let me help you since it is difficult for you. Check some translations and you will see what you should be showing me.

Use scripture and prove your point and not by begging me to accept. Oya go and check.

I have been preparing a response to that with almost the whole of chapter 3 and part of chapter 4. I will post it this night or tomorrow. It will certainly be in the right context.

What translations, am i quoting koran? Which of these translations does not say Spirit of the Lord? How do YOU come to some weird conclusion that the Spirit of God is Holy Spirit except in this verse?
2 Corinthians 3:17
(BBE)  Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free.
(GW)  This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom.
(KJV)  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(YLT)  And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty;

Holman Christian Standard Bible
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
English Standard Version
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

New International Version
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You want to use two chapters to show me that one verse does not contain Spirit of the Lord, it's called FORCING it. Don't accept na, who's begging you?

These are the questions you can help me with, i don't need 2 chapters of twisting and turning. i await your round 5 claim.

1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

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What translations, am i quoting koran? Which of these translations does not say Spirit of the Lord? How do YOU come to some weird conclusion that the Spirit of God is Holy Spirit except in this verse?
2 Corinthians 3:17
(BBE)  Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free.
(GW)  This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom.
(KJV)  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(YLT)  And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty;

Holman Christian Standard Bible
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
English Standard Version
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

New International Version
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You want to use two chapters to show me that one verse does not contain Spirit of the Lord, it's called FORCING it. Don't accept na, who's begging you?

These are the questions you can help me with, i don't need 2 chapters of twisting and turning. i await your round 5 claim.

1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

What I fed the AI are all the out of point things you wrote and it gave you what you deserved.

Both of us have the opportunity to present our own subtopic. It is not my fault that you present topics that are not back the scripture. My own are superb and backed by the scripture. So stop complaining about this.

I don't know the school attended but my brother you cannot do anything without topic unless you are interested in confusing your readers. Did you copy notes in school with topics. Didn't they do for you things like this "today we going to learn Algebraic equations?" That is your topic. Go and check about 100 textbook and you will topics or table of contents in them. Please stop saying this in public.


I disagree with you. On those bible verses. Stop acting biko. You are not even seeing anything. Go and check NIrV. You can use it. Before we proceed I proposal to prove to you that AI knows what it is doing and that you are the problem for believing on falsehood and writing out of point. I will post it shortly. So that's you stop blaming Ai for your mistakes.

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It's not a lie, you are arguing that the Father is God, YES. To "argue" implies putting forth a claim. An argument is essentially a claim supported by reasons and evidence. More specifically, or word-for-word, you are arguing that the Father is the only true God according to Jesus Christ. Again, no one disputes this, we also teach it. The difference is the ALSO, we also teach that Jesus is the only true God, and the Spirit is the only true God. The same goes for being God over all, and God of gods. This has already been explained in the rounds, except you want it re-explained.
There's no distortion in saying that you claim that the Father is God, especially when i have earlier elaborated in the rounds. If you don't feel that the Father is God, then you can claim it as a distortion. you don't have to talk or think like a robot, like we've never had previous discussions and everything has to be repeated every single time. The teaching of trinity reaches and largely SURPASSES your teaching. That's why there's disagreement in the first place. That the Godhead is not just the Father, but the Son and the Spirit.

Lol, i just saw your support a claim thing though. i guess i understood your procedure as strictly a claim and rebuttal thing. That's why i use to say that i wait for your rebuttal. Nonetheless, that does not significantly change much except in your feeding of AI.
As you don't trust me or the images and text that that posted from ChatGPT, you don't need to go through the pain of trusting my video. It can be doctored you know? Here's the easy straightforward thing to do, which i suspect you have already done but you're too shy to tell us.

1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

Round 1 you claim
we all, including Jesus Christ, have one God. And that one God is the Father not three persons. All the sentences and key verses that follow show what we both agree in bold. It is only right that i set you right to explain that Jesus is also one God and He is our God, the Spirit is also one God and He is our God.

Round 3, you claim again
Jesus Christ has a God. His God is the Father and the explanation still rotates around the similar thing. God over all. If you pause and ponder you'll notice that you're just spinning around. Let's hope there's something new in Round 5 though

Round 1
If you agree then then you don't have any other thing to say. Setting me right means you are interested in talking out of point. Even if post scripture of "Jesus wept," it is out of point.

Round 3
This the benefit of being on the side of truth and having a focus. My topic in Round cancelled everything about trinity. That is my main aim. You believe in trinity and I believe that there only One God over all and he is the Father. Your own is God is one Lord in 3 distinct persons. My goal is to count this your claim while you counter mine.You should make claim that support that while I make claims to support mine.

You don't expect me to believe falsehood and be at disadvantage. That is why you are complaining

This will show you that the Ai knows what it is doing. We will use it to do the neutral test you are asking for.


2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrV
[17] Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, freedom is also there.

I am doing this so you know I am putting myself at a disadvantage. But I will disagree with this translation and prove to you that it is a wrong interpretation.


So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.

I will make claims that the passage is not talking about Holy spirit but Jesus Christ and also present my verses.

We will not use topic. So posted your preferred scripture first and start making your claim under it. If we are to use to topic it will be: is 2 Corinthians 3:17 talking about Jesus Christ or the Holy spirit.

But we are not using topic so don't start saying it sway AI. I don't even know where it will sway this time. It will to your side if you present solid claim and key verses without talking out of point. So if I win don't think it is magic. The truth stands.

Below are the rules. Check if there is anything you want us to edit in the rules. We will make our presentation before 6pm tomorrow. After this we will start our normal challenge. I will check results and you will also do it with your own AI. I will post video here and will also bring your own video. Or you confirm if what I presented is the same with yours.

MINI CHALLENGE

Rule for the participants

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rules for you ChatGPT

Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only.

Rule 2: You must not be partial.

Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge.



MR I CLAIM:
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MR B CLAIM:
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✅ Instructions:
Please analyze both claim according to all the rules and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?

Where is Boomark na, has he given up? He probably asked AI those questions and got shy. For someone who'd have rushed out to inform about ChatGPT results and how he's making a lot of sacrifices, this silence is deafening. Boomark, are you not going to make video and inform us on the result of the last round and these questions?
1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

The answers to 2 and 3 should better inform you on how AI works, instead of accusing me of blaming AI.
When will you be posting your next round of claims, or are they the same circles as the one where Jesus has a God and He is over all?

Boomark:
This will show you that the Ai knows what it is doing. We will use it to do the neutral test you are asking for.


2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrV
[17] Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, freedom is also there.

I am doing this so you know I am putting myself at a disadvantage. But I will disagree with this translation and prove to you that it is a wrong interpretation.


So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.

I will make claims that the passage is not talking about Holy spirit but Jesus Christ and also present my verses.

We will not use topic. So posted your preferred scripture first and start making your claim under it. If we are to use to topic it will be: is 2 Corinthians 3:17 talking about Jesus Christ or the Holy spirit.

But we are not using topic so don't start saying it sway AI. I don't even know where it will sway this time. It will to your side if you present solid claim and key verses without talking out of point. So if I win don't think it is magic. The truth stands.

Below are the rules. Check if there is anything you want us to edit in the rules. We will make our presentation before 6pm tomorrow. After this we will start our normal challenge. I will check results and you will also do it with your own AI. I will post video here and will also bring your own video. Or you confirm if what I presented is the same with yours.



Rule for the participants

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rules for you ChatGPT

Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only.

Rule 2: You must not be partial.

Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge.



MR I CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here]


MR B CLAIM:
[Paste their full message here]

✅ Instructions:
Please analyze both claim according to all the rules and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?

Oh okay just reading this now. So this is like a break or what? No wahala. You didn't mention me. i tend to read my mentions rather than followed topics. i'll reply this soon sha.

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Oh okay just reading this now. So this is like a break or what? No wahala. You didn't mention me. i tend to read my mentions rather than followed topics. i'll reply this soon sha.

Sorry my brother. I remembered it but forgot later. Any time you are ready. The time I mentioned won't count. Just take your time and analyse well.

It is mini challenge to prove that the AI follows instruction on a neutral bases and to also show the right context and translation of 2 Corinthians 3:17.

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Where is Boomark na, has he given up? He probably asked AI those questions and got shy. For someone who'd have rushed out to inform about ChatGPT results and how he's making a lot of sacrifices, this silence is deafening. Boomark, are you not going to make video and inform us on the result of the last round and these questions?
1. Ask the same ChatGPT to remark our 'arguments' without the TOPIC that sways to Jesus has a God. Simply type remark and score our 'arguments' without the TOPIC
2. ask it, "does AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed it?" and "does ai and chatgpt depend on gigo"
3. Ask "Is AI subject to the topic asked or neutral"

The answers to 2 and 3 should better inform you on how AI works, instead of accusing me of blaming AI.
When will you be posting your next round of claims, or are they the same circles as the one where Jesus has a God and He is over all?

I will do that now. I wanted to address your concerns first. I don't like the feeling that I'm manipulating th AI. That's why I make the video so everyone will it is transparent. We have equal opportunity to make our subtopics favour us.

I will prepare the result now.

Please define your Trinity so I will add it as your main topic.

Main topic: my own Vs your own.

Please do this now if you see it so I can send our claim and rebuttal.

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I CLAIM:

Boomark:
This will show you that the Ai knows what it is doing. We will use it to do the neutral test you are asking for.

i like the word you used which is the logical thing, neutral. i have never said that AI does not know what it is doing. i have only cautioned you that AI is GIGO-based, depends on what you feed it, and is subject to the topic asked. So if you are looking for unbiased analysis, be careful what and how you feed it.

2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrV
[17] Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, freedom is also there.

I am doing this so you know I am putting myself at a disadvantage. But I will disagree with this translation and prove to you that it is a wrong interpretation.

There's no advantage or disadvantage here, only truth in context and without extrabiblical inputs. The Bible refers to the Holy Ghost as the Holy Spirit and also as the Spirit of the Lord. This is the direct observation and meaning across many books and verses of the Bible. A claim that the Spirit of the Lord is not the Holy Spirit is not found in the Bible. Like your verson quoted, it is straightforward enough without any eisegesis. Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. Many other versions also mention Him in the verse, either as Holy Spirit or Spirit of the Lord. This is why we say the Holy Spirit is Lord as seen in the Bible, Jesus is Lord as seen in the Bible, the Father is Lord as seen in the Bible.
2 Corinthians 3:17
(BBE)  Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free.
(GW)  This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom.
(KJV)  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(YLT)  And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty;
Rom_6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom_7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom_8:39  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom_10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth[b] the Lord Jesus[/b], and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Gen_2:18  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
1Sa_2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.

I will make claims that the passage is not talking about Holy spirit but Jesus Christ and also present my verses.

All over the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of the Lord. All verses refer to the Holy Spirit and His power in context. None is said to refer to Jesus in the Bible and rule 1 says the Bible alone.
1Sa_16:14  But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
2Sa_23:2  The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.
Act_5:9  Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

Even our chapter is gracious enough to refer to Him in the earler verses.
2Co_3:3  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co_3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co_3:18  But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Key verses:
2 Corinthians 3:17
(BBE)  Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there the heart is free.
(GW)  This Lord is the Spirit. Wherever the Lord’s Spirit is, there is freedom.
(KJV)  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(YLT)  And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty;
Rom_6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom_7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom_8:39  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom_10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Gen_2:18  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
1Sa_2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
1Sa_16:14  But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
2Sa_23:2  The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.
Act_5:9  Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
2Co_3:3  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co_3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co_3:18  But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.