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bixton:
You have to tell me, why..... I hope you can.



Rev.20.13 - The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev.20.15 - And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.




The book of Revelation ended in Chapter 22.....

Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Rev.22.15 - But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.



Please what does the "outside" mean in the verse above of Rev 22:15.....
Thanks.

You should tell me why.....you are the teacher here

MaxInDHouse:
God created them from the dust, they were nowhere before God created them and gave them the opportunity to be alive so they will return to oblivion that's what God said.
Do you have a contrary meaning?

Well, good of you, that they return to oblivion.

Please define "oblivion" in the context from that which you said?

bixton:
Well, good of you, that they return to oblivion.
Please define "oblivion" in the context from that which you said?

They never existed before God created them so they will return to the same state.
Oya say what you think about God's pronouncement nah.
Àbí your pastors never thought of this?

bixton:
Please kindly tell me.....just post it as it's written in your own Bible. Thanks.

It's in all translations but since you want to know i will quote the KJV:

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. Malachi 3:16 KJV

This is what Jesus God's only begotten Son established when he commanded his disciples to go from house to house and door to door preaching and teaching whoever welcome them.
Note what Malachi said: God instructed angels to pen down the names of those who have godly fear and those meditating on His name.
So when Jesus said whoever refuse to welcome his disciples they should dust their feet in front of the person's house that's a sign that they have brought the message but the householder declined.

So the last book of the Old Covenant told us how our names will be written for the WORKS we did in the name of God's Son {Malachi 3:16} while the last book of the New Covenant told us what will happen to those whose names are not found in that book! Revelations 20:15

MaxInDHouse:
It's in all translations but since you want to know i will quote the KJV:

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. Malachi 3:16 KJV

This is what Jesus God's only begotten Son established when he commanded his disciples to go from house to house and door to door preaching and teaching whoever welcome them.
Note what Malachi said: God instructed angels to pen down the names of those who have godly fear and those meditating on His name.
So when Jesus said whoever refuse to welcome his disciples they should dust their feet in front of the person's house that's a sign that they have brought the message but the householder declined.

So the last book of the Old Covenant told us how our names will be written for the WORKS we did in the name of God's Son {Malachi 3:16} while the last book of the New Covenant told us what will happen to those whose names are not found in that book! Revelations 20:15

You can't be quoting from a book you don't actually use.

But you have really tried.
My singular prayer is that I be not misled to the point where I'm lost and can't be redeemed.

bixton:
You can't be quoting from a book you don't actually use.

Guy if you don't have anything tangible to say it's OK i can understand at least i have proved what i promised in the KJV so that if someone show you in the NWT you won't say it's strange!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy if you don't have anything tangible to say it's OK i can understand at least i have proved what i promised in the KJV so that if someone show you in the NWT you won't say it's strange!

If you're proud of your Bible that you carry around to preach you should also be proud to post it's contents as it's written online rather than quote from a version you don't sleep with.



One doesn't have to become a member to own your book. It doesn't speak well at all and tells otherwise.

Steep:
If you live on earth and ignore the evidence of the creator inspite of the evidence all around then you are responsible and God is fair. Take note nobody is going to be saved by their good works, intellectually propensity etc only by depending on God's salvation which is Jesus christ.

So all Muslims will go to hell abi?

What of the Jews?

Steep:
every human will be judged and condemn to hell for their sin. The only offer of salvation freely is Jesus christ, no other religion offers you that, atheism, agnosticism, humanism etc does not offer salvation from sin only Jesus christ of Nazareth.

Are you aware that the Jews don't believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah?

Uchesis:
So all Muslims will go to hell abi?

What of the Jews?

God is not interested in the religion of man or of some strange deceitful spirit.
God is not an author of confusion.


Anyone who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior, anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died and resurrected and is the only One through whom redemption and salvation from sin and death will come to God and lastly keep His commands by hearing and doing them.

Then they all will go to hell....

bixton:
If you're proud of your Bible that you carry around to preach you should also be proud to post it's contents as it's written online rather than quote from a version you don't sleep with.
One doesn't have to become a member to own your book. It doesn't speak well at all and tells otherwise.

Bible is Bible just say you are worried that people you least thought could teach you know sacred secrets you don't have access to.
That's the only way people's names could be found in the book of life so if you're still bragging over your ignorance i've played my own part the rest is in your own hands if you like listen and work on it if you like ignore!

Uchesis:
So all Muslims will go to hell abi?
What of the Jews?

Their pastors makes scary movies about Hell to show them so whenever they come across that word "Hell" it's those scary movies that comes to their mind.

But according to God's word only people who deliberately kill their conscience will be forgotten in Hell (Grave) whether you are a Christian or not all dead people goes to Hell but while some will be called back to life many will not be remembered because they lived without conscience! Psalms 9:17

If someone is a Muslim or Judaist or Atheist or Agnostic or Traditionalist what matters is how you treated true believers in Christ who are sent to visit you. If your conscience doesn't blame you then you still have another chance but once you start judging yourself about how you treated Christ's true disciples your judgement starts that very moment. Romans 2:14-15

MaxInDHouse:
Bible is Bible just say you are worried that people you least thought could teach you know sacred secrets you don't have access to.
That's the only way people's names could be found in the book of life so if you're still bragging over your ignorance i've played my own part the rest is in your own hands if you like listen and work on it if you like ignore!

You're completely mistaken in your entire discuss with me if you think you know ......

I'm very sure Apostle Paul, was never taught the (secret) gospel of Christ Jesus by any man or even the first set of Christ Jesus disciples who became the early Apostles.....
I don't follow the psychology and philosophy of men to have knowledge polluted and get myself brainwashed.



I have the Holy Spirit to teach me all there is of the secret of the Living God.

bixton:
I'm very sure Apostle Paul, was never taught the (secret) gospel of Christ Jesus by any man.

Don't kill yourself with ignorance!

Paul was taught first by a Pharisee named "Gamaliel" here is Paul himself talking:
“I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Ci·liʹcia, but educated in this city at the feet of Ga·maʹli·el, instructed according to the strictness of the ancestral Law, and zealous for God just as all of you are this day. Act 22:3

Gamaliel was a highly respected Pharisee who lived by good conscience so it's his teachings that Paul was using as a scholar but when he converted to Christianity he was taught by Christians.
Here is what Jesus told him:

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.” Act 9:5-6

So Christians taught Paul what he needs to know about Christ Jesus and the ministry before he became a life time pioneer in the faith! Act 9:17-21

Read and stop being ignorant with empty arrogance!

bixton:
God is not interested in the religion of man or of some strange deceitful spirit.
God is not an author of confusion.


Anyone who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior, anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died and resurrected and is the only One through whom redemption and salvation from sin and death will come to God and lastly keep His commands by hearing and doing them.

Then they all will go to hell....

That means only Christians will not go to hell.
because you cannot expect a Muslim or Buddhist or Orthodox to accept Jesus Christ as his saviour.

So can we now call that hell a NON-CHRISTIAN HELL?

MaxInDHouse:
Their pastors makes scary movies about Hell to show them so whenever they come across that word "Hell" it's those scary movies that comes to their mind.

But according to God's word only people who deliberately kill their conscience will be forgotten in Hell (Grave) whether you are a Christian or not all dead people goes to Hell but while some will be called back to life many will not be remembered because they lived without conscience! Psalms 9:17

If someone is a Muslim or Judaist or Atheist or Agnostic or Traditionalist what matters is how you treated true believers in Christ who are sent to visit you. If your conscience doesn't blame you then you still have another chance but once you start judging yourself about how you treated Christ's true disciples your judgement starts that very moment. Romans 2:14-15

Are you referring to Re-incarnation here? @bolded

Uchesis:
Are you referring to Re-incarnation here? @bolded

NO it's called resurrection!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't kill yourself with ignorance!

Paul was taught first by a Pharisee named "Gamaliel" here is Paul himself talking:
“I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Ci·liʹcia, but educated in this city at the feet of Ga·maʹli·el, instructed according to the strictness of the ancestral Law, and zealous for God just as all of you are this day. Act 22:3

Gamaliel was a highly respected Pharisee who lived by good conscience so it's his teachings that Paul was using as a scholar but when he converted to Christianity he was taught by Christians.
Here is what Jesus told him:

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.” Act 9:5-6

So Christians taught Paul what he needs to know about Christ Jesus and the ministry before he became a life time pioneer in the faith! Act 9:17-21

Read and stop being ignorant with empty arrogance!

Really, am I the one ignorant with empty arrogance!!!!!!! ??

It's all up to you.....
Maybe that which is below is not even acknowledged in your own Bible....

Gal.1.11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
Gal.1.12 - For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal.1.13 - For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it.
Gal.1.14 - And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.
Gal.1.15 - But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
Gal.1.16 - to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
Gal.1.17 - nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
Gal.1.18 - Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
Gal.1.21 - Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia.

Funny Churchian!
So Paul never learned from Christians he just started one day without anyone telling him what to know about Christianity.
Paul meant establishing congregations among the gentiles was his assignment which Jesus gave him directly if what he meant is that he never learned anything from Christians then everyone should start their own ministry without preaching or teaching so Jesus' instruction to preach and teach is useless because everyone will claim they got what they are saying directly from God.
How does that make sense to you?
Well on that note this is what Paul himself said to Christians in Corinth:

For who makes you different from another? Indeed, what do you have that you did not receive? If, in fact, you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not receive it? 1Corinthans 4:7

Now how can someone who was never taught by fellow believers utter such and expect his listeners to agree with him that it's impossible for them to become Christians without learning anything from Christians before them?

bixton:
Really, am I the one ignorant with empty arrogance!!!!!!! ??
It's all up to you.....
Maybe that which is below is not even acknowledged in your own Bible....
Gal.1.11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
Gal.1.12 - For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal.1.13 - For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it.
Gal.1.14 - And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.
Gal.1.15 - But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
Gal.1.16 - to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
Gal.1.17 - nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
Gal.1.18 - Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
Gal.1.21 - Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchian!
So Paul never learned from Christians he just started one day without anyone telling him what to know about Christianity.
What Paul meant here is that forming a congregation among the gentiles was his assignment which Jesus gave him directly if what he meant is that he never learned anything from Christians then everyone should start their own ministry without preaching or teaching so Jesus' instruction to preach and teach is useless because everyone will claim they got what they are saying directly from God.
How does that make sense to you?
Well on that note this is what Paul himself said to Christians in Corinth:

For who makes you different from another? Indeed, what do you have that you did not receive? If, in fact, you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not receive it? 1Corinthans 4:7

Now how can someone who was never taught by fellow believers utter such and expect his listeners to agree with him that it's impossible for them to become Christians without learning anything from Christians before them?

You funny well well.....

Gal.1.11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
Gal.1.12 - For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.




Please can you still explain what Apostle Paul was saying in the bolded above in Gal 1: 11-12....


I sure hope it's written in your Bible too or was it omitted ?

bixton:
You funny well well.....

Gal.1.11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
Gal.1.12 - For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Please can you still explain what Apostle Paul was saying in the bolded above in Gal 1: 11-12....
I sure hope it's written in your Bible too or was it omitted ?

Highlighted in blue simply means what he is taught the Galatians is not human philosophy but divine which we all know today as God's inspired expressions from Genesis to Revelations not that he was never taught by people who knew God's word.
Gamaliel was his teacher who taught him God's law written by Moses {Act 22:3} and Jesus directed him to go and meet Christians! Act 9:6
If each person is to develop his own teaching directly from God how can they have the same line of thought?

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthans 1:10

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

Now i know why only Jehovah's Witnesses have the same beliefs while the rest of you are always contradicting yourselves!

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted in blue simply means what he is taught the Galatians is not human philosophy but divine which we all know today as God's inspired expressions from Genesis to Revelations not that he was never taught by people who knew God's word.
Gamaliel was his teacher who taught him God's law written by Moses {Act 22:3} and Jesus directed him to go and meet Christians! Act 9:6
If each person is to develop his own teaching directly from God how can they have the same line of thought?

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthans 1:10

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

Now i know why only Jehovah's Witnesses have the same beliefs while the rest of you are always contradicting yourselves!

The bolded is enough proof that what you're being taught is not divinely inspired but all just photoshopped.


One of the workings of the Holy Spirit is that He is not static but always dynamic from generation to generation all over the earth but the message is very clear and one.

bixton:
One of the workings of the Holy Spirit is that He is not static but always dynamic from generation to generation all over the earth but the message is very clear and one.

That's the work of the devil CONFUSION not of God's Holy Spirit.
Jesus commanded his disciples to go and meet people in their homes then he said they should preach God's Kingdom to them {Matthew 10:3-13} then later when they have become baptized Christians they should be taught continually all what he commanded them {Mathew 28:19-20} that's why he is sure they will all have the same line of thought! John 17:22

Where you people have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines that's the handiwork of Satan {1Corinthans 14:33} which leads people into politics then later you people will be divided into fractions where Satan can instigate you people into hating, fighting and killing your fellow worshipers! Revelations 6:3-4

But the oneness in Christ is to be observed among his true disciples where LOVE is the watchword {John 13:34-35} ask anybody in your neighborhood they will confirm that there is LOVE among Jehovah's Witnesses!

If i asked you to mention the name of your church where all members have the same line of thought as Christ prayed for his disciples {John 17:22} you will be silent.
WHY?
Because even in the church where you're a member each one of you choose whatever you want to believe about the same god!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the work of the devil CONFUSION not of God's Holy Spirit.
Jesus commanded his disciples to go and meet people in their homes then he said they should preach God's Kingdom to them {Matthew 10:3-13} then later when they have become baptized Christians they should be taught continually all what he commanded them {Mathew 28:19-20} that's why he is sure they will all have the same line of thought! John 17:22

Where you people have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines that's the handiwork of Satan {1Corinthans 14:33} which leads people into politics then later you people will be divided into fractions where Satan can instigate you people into hating, fighting and killing your fellow worshipers! Revelations 6:3-4

But the oneness in Christ is to be observed among his true disciples where LOVE is the watchword {John 13:34-35} ask anybody in your neighborhood they will confirm that there is LOVE among Jehovah's Witnesses!

If i asked you to mention the name of your church where all members have the same line of thought as Christ prayed for his disciples {John 17:22} you will be silent.
WHY?
Because even in the church where you're a member each one of you choose whatever you want to believe about the same god!

Hahahahahah.......

Even the early Apostles and also Peter did not quiet come to terms with the teachings of Apostle Paul who was sent to the gentile nation to speak the gospel of Christ Jesus.

bixton:
Hahahahahah.......

God's people are united in faith globally it's not automatic it's by ARRANGEMENT! 1Corinthans 14:40

MaxInDHouse:
God's people are united in faith globally it's not automatic it's by ARRANGEMENT! 1Corinthans 14:40

Do you not know even the occultic says same thing.

What is that one thing that makes you unique as a Christian or JW apart from love as it's written in the Scripture?

Note, that even unbelievers and the occultic love themselves and express same.

Confused Churchian!
So are you saying Jesus doesn't know what he was saying?

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves." John 13:34-35
So Jesus is 100% correct because he told us that when you people failed to prove being true believers the next thing you'll do is call his real disciples "Satanists"

Here is Jesus himself saying:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10 24-25

Now you're confirming that Jehovah's Witnesses are the true disciples of Christ!

bixton:
Do you not know even the occultic says same thing. What is that one thing that makes you unique as a Christian or JW apart from love as it's written in the Scripture? Note, that even unbelievers and the occultic love themselves and express same.

MaxInDHouse:
Confused Churchian!
So are you saying Jesus doesn't know what he was saying?

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves." John 13:34-35
So Jesus is 100% correct because he told us that when you people failed to prove being true believers the next thing you'll do is call his real disciples "Satanists"

Here is Jesus himself saying:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10 24-25

Now you're confirming that Jehovah's Witnesses are the true disciples of Christ!

Jesus Christ also says those who are His brother, sister, father and mother are those who do the will of His Father.

Anyone who doesn't take "wholesome" to hear and practice the Word of God is not yet a true disciple but just a religious person.

bixton:
Jesus Christ also says those who are His brother, sister, father and mother are those who do they will of His Father.

See confused Churchian!

Do you even know the will of the father?

Well for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will say the will of God for mankind.

It's revealed to two different prophets:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. ‭Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 NIV‬

This means during the endtime faithful people of all the nations will start to get involved in the study of God's word and they will agree to worship the Father in Spirit and Truth by having the same line of thought globally.
With what result?
The next verse revealed: They will settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors again!

That's why Jesus commissioned preaching and teaching work that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today and the result is obvious that people globally confirmed it!

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

MaxInDHouse:
See confused Churchian!

Do you even know the will of the father?

Well for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will say the will of God for mankind.

It's revealed to two different prophets:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. ‭Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 NIV‬

This means during the endtime faithful people of all the nations will start to get involved in the study of God's word and they will agree to worship the Father in Spirit and Truth by having the same line of thought globally.
With what result?
The next verse revealed: They will settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors again!

That's why Jesus commissioned preaching and teaching work that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today and the result is obvious that people globally confirmed it!

bixton:

Confirmation!


No weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute (SILENCE) every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the Lord. ‭Isaiah 54:17 NIV‬

The word of our God is alive! Hebrews 4:12

MaxInDHouse:
Confirmation!


No weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute (SILENCE) every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the Lord. ‭Isaiah 54:17 NIV‬

The word of our God is alive! Hebrews 4:12

Prov.12.8 - A man will be commended according to his wisdom, But he who is of a perverse heart will be despised.



Prov.12.26 - The righteous should choose his friends carefully, For the way of the wicked leads them astray.