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jesusjnr2020:
That's how another "gospel" singer would wake up and sing a song about a "daddy wey dey pamper", yet the song will be trending in churches and among Christians, despite the fact that it doesn't align with the scriptures which teaches us that he that pampers his child hates the child, and that God doesn't pamper but chastens those He loves. Proverbs 13:24, Revelation 3:9, Hebrews 12:6.

The god who pampers his children is not the God of the Bible, but the devil (the god of the world) because he hates them and doesn't want them to change or repent so they'd end up in hell with him.

Therefore beware of the "daddy wey dey pamper"

God bless.

churro:
You are so right. Whenever I sing that song, I had to take out some parts of the lyrics and add in my own cos I like the tune. How can I say, daddy wey dey

jesusjnr2020:
That's how another "gospel" singer would wake up and sing a song about a "daddy wey dey pamper", yet the song will be trending in churches and among Christians, despite the fact that it doesn't align with the scriptures which teaches us that he that pampers his child hates the child, and that God doesn't pamper but chastens those He loves. Proverbs 13:24, Revelation 3:9, Hebrews 12:6.

The god who pampers his children is not the God of the Bible, but the devil (the god of the world) because he hates them and doesn't want them to change or repent so they'd end up in hell with him.

Therefore beware of the "daddy wey dey pamper"

God bless.

churro:
You are so right. Whenever I sing that song, I had to take out some parts of the lyrics and add in my own cos I like the tune. How can I say, daddy wey dey pamper 'I say something else. I don't say burst my brain? What is that? What does that mean, he bursts my brain night and day. And Christians and pastors sing it, and they don't see it? Sometimes I feel so lonely.

I reluctantly went for a praise program yesterday evening and everyone was dancing crazy, vibing, videoing themselves, entertaining one another, a few lifted up their chairs, took off their wigs, while a popular praise gospel singer "entertained". I tried to concentrate on God, but at some point it was hard cos the lyrics were mostly about self. Oh! It's sad. A congregation of about a thousand people. I feel unhappy sometimes when I see these things.

Enskynelson:
What does "daddy wey dey pamper" mean in the contest of the song? I think you interpreted that phrase without considering where it was used. You lifted it and just talked about the "pamper"! Here is the song lyrics:

Even when I fall your hand
You still dey hold my hand
Lover of my soul, You nor dey break my heart
I'll sing about your mercy
I'll sing about your grace
Na u dey burst my brain
Every night and day
Daddy wey dey pamper
Daddy wey Dey bless
Forever you're my father
Na u dey give me rest
When I look around
I see your faithfulness
I'll bow down on my knees
Cos na u wey be the best


Daddy wey dey pamper in this context means God that doesn't abandon us in spite of our flaws, weaknesses and imperfections. It means God, my Father, who constantly shows me tender love, mercy, and undeserved care.

If the above is not true of the nature of God let me know the area or nature expressed there that contradicts the nature of God.

churro:
You are so right. Whenever I sing that song, I had to take out some parts of the lyrics and add in my own cos I like the tune. How can I say, daddy wey dey pamper 'I say something else. I don't say burst my brain? What is that? What does that mean, he bursts my brain night and day. And Christians and pastors sing it, and they don't see it? Sometimes I feel so lonely.

I reluctantly went for a praise program yesterday evening and everyone was dancing crazy, vibing, videoing themselves, entertaining one another, a few lifted up their chairs, took off their wigs, while a popular praise gospel singer "entertained". I tried to concentrate on God, but at some point it was hard cos the lyrics were mostly about self. Oh! It's sad. A congregation of about a thousand people. I feel unhappy sometimes when I see these things.

Enskynelson:
What does "daddy wey dey pamper" mean in the contest of the song? I think you interpreted that phrase without considering where it was used. You lifted it and just talked about the "pamper"! Here is the song lyrics:

Even when I fall your hand
You still dey hold my hand
Lover of my soul, You nor dey break my heart
I'll sing about your mercy
I'll sing about your grace
Na u dey burst my brain
Every night and day
Daddy wey dey pamper
Daddy wey Dey bless
Forever you're my father
Na u dey give me rest
When I look around
I see your faithfulness
I'll bow down on my knees
Cos na u wey be the best


Daddy wey dey pamper in this context means God that doesn't abandon us in spite of our flaws, weaknesses and imperfections. It means God, my Father, who constantly shows me tender love, mercy, and undeserved care.

If the above is not true of the nature of God let me know the area or nature expressed there that contradicts the nature of God.

jesusjnr2020:
You're missing the whole point.

This isn't about the body of the song, but the word 'pamper" being used in the same sentence with God, because it doesn't align with the character of God according to the scriptures.

You may need to look up the meaning and synonyms of the word in the dictionary to understand that it isn't synonymous with mercy, compassion, love etc and vice versa.

So the fact remains that "pamper" is the wrong word to depict God in any context because God doesn't do pamper regardless of how it is being dressed.

It's just like trying to justifying the use of lust to depict God in the title of a song because it speaks about God's love for us. It will never work because lust in not in the character of God.

I hope you get the point now.

God bless.

Enskynelson:
Words are explained in contexts.
Let me ask you this question:
Is it wrong to say "God is pampering me with His love?" This song is about God's love and mercy. "God is spoiling me with too much love" that is the same as pampering and I see nothing wrong in the way it is used here.

To correct you on the use of word without context you cannot pick a word from a sentence without looking at where it's being used. For instance, is "extravagant" a good thing? But haven't you heard of "extravagant love" or "reckless" as in "reckless love of God"?

God pampers all his children with so much love and care. This I stand to say is correct, and that is what the song is talking about

jesusjnr2020:
Where you're getting it wrong is that you're confusing the love of men with that of God.

It's men that pamper those they love not God.

The Bible says God chastens those He loves never pamper.

Even Jesus who God Himself called "my BELOVED Son in whom I'm well pleased" wasn't pampered by God but immediately led into the wilderness to fast dry for forty days, to prove the difference between the love of God and that of men. Therefore the idea of using pamper in the context of God's love is outright erroneous.

You can use mercy, grace, compassion, etc but never pampering because it's not in the character of God.

Moreover the Bible implies that those who pamper their children hate them, so it's wrong and unscriptural to use that to describe God's love, mercy or grace towards His children.

Enskynelson:
All these are contextual meanings. Yes, God chastises those He love but what kind of love would you describe one who loves you just so much? The pamper you saw there means to spoil one with so much love. The other part of the song clarifies this but you keep giving the song a different meanig just because of your own personal understanding of the word "pamper" outside the context of this song. I know you know and understand the Bible but understanding this song doesn't only require the knowledge of the Bible but also proper knowledge of songwriting and use of language and I think that is where the problem is.

To you, "Daddy wey the pamper" is saying God that doesn't discipline his children even if they disobey Him and do anything they wish against His will... But let me ask you a question, does the rest part of the song align with this your perceived meaning?

The song is an expression of God's reckless love and extravagant love towards the writer... They expressed how God love them in excess throughout the song, some of which are found in these lines:

"Your goodness and mercy dey follow me up
Like say I be new convert"

"Na you dey pamper
Na you dey love
Na you dey set Compass without maths set
Na u dey pamper
Na u dey love"

"This life nor go make sense
This life nor go make sense without you honestl"



I want you to tell me from the song, the lines that support the meaning you are referring to here? You just lifted the word "pamper" without looking at how it was used and for the reason it was used. That cannot breed the interpretation of a writer's true intention.

jesusjnr2020:
You keep using the context card to justify the use of a wrong word to describe God or His love and mercies towards .

You've now even added the word "spoil" which is also not in God's character to make matters worse, so you could as well use corrupt, pollute, bribe, rape,.molest, assault, lust, defraud, steal, lie, abuse etc, to also describe God, since you think it's all the about contextual meaning and the wrong word cannot be used in that regard.

But if you can't, it then clearly disproves your attempt to keep using the other part of the song (even if scripturally accurate) to justify the use of the wrong word (not in the character of God) to describe God in the song.

Moreover point of correction, this isn't about giving the song a different meaning, but using the wrong word to describe God's love, mercies, compassion etc., towards His children.

Enskynelson:
Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this. In case you don't know, I have been following you here for more than a year because of your posts but on this, I disagree.

Why did you refuse to answer some of the questions?
If spoil and pamper can never be used for God in a sentence, what make you feel comfortable with extravagant and reckless of all words to describe anything about God?

This is not about the Bible like I have been saying. The understanding of the song is about grammar sir and on this, you are not getting it right.

BodyCount:
That's your business

I will never worship any human, Jesus was a man.

churro:
Finally! Someone has mentioned that part of the song that others have failed to notice or completely ignore.

Burn the world? Which world do you want to burn. a World in which evil men and seduces will wax worse and worse.

Shift the culture? Which culture do you want to shift. When we are clearly warned that we are not to conform to the world's way of thinking and living. Christians do not change the world; they change themselves first.

And who told you you are to raise the dead? Christ followers follow Jesus in his teachings and in the way he lived his ordinary day to day life on earth; and not necessarily in his ministry. God works through a few of his Children to heal the sick and raise the dead. Many christians today just want fame and acclaim that comes from a ministry of 'raising the dead'.

Spend the billions? When Jesus has warned us against striving to get wealth. In the kingdom of God, financial wealth is neutral. It means absolutely nothing! Paul even warns Timothy that *they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare and pierce their heart with many sorrows"

And they want to hear well done? Well done for what? For following their own gospel, not Christ.

Oh! It's really sad to see the level of compromise that has eaten into many people's heart. We will not be many ooo. On the last day, we will be few. That's a fact!

jesusjnr2020:
"I Have Decided To Follow Jesus"?

Matthew 16:24 (KJV)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Jesus on this occasion made it stark clear what was required for anyone to follow Him.

He said the person must first deny himself, take up his cross, before he can follow Him.

However despite Jesus clearly stating this in His Word, some so-called gospel musician would decide to do a song about deciding to follow Jesus, yet go on to say everything else, but not even for once mention the part of carrying of the cross that Jesus said was mandatory for anyone who wants to follow Him.

This is also despite the fact that "the cross" was also clearly mentioned in the original version of the song, "I have decided to follow Jesus".

The composer of the original version of the song passionately sang, "the cross before me, the world behind me, no turning back..," in fearless defiance of the threat made by his village Chief to end his life if he didn't renounce Jesus, shortly before he was martyred for truly refusing to turn his back on Jesus but to follow Him even to the death.

https://www.nairaland.com/8326658/story-behind-song-decided-follow

That obviously shows that the omission of the part of the cross was not by accident but a deliberate act by all those involved.

Instead they'd remember to talk about "spending billions", which Jesus or the original composer of the song never said.

That means that in truth they never really decided to follow Jesus in the first place but to follow "billions" etc, hence why they're not willing to talk about carrying of the cross but such vanities.

It's really unfortunate, however that's just a true reflection of how fickle and self-centred the Christianity of most christians has become today.

They claim to be following Jesus but reject the crucial part of denying themselves and taking up their crosses.

Hence why any small thing just happens to test their faith, they would begin to turn their backs on Jesus, even to the point of denying Him and His existence as we've witnessed several do here before in this forum.

It's because of such self-centred and shallow foundation their christianity was built upon instead of the firm foundation of Christ's teachings (as such that requires us to deny ourselves and carry our cross to follow Him), which can never be moved no matter the storm.

Therefore that the song is trending right now and having many, including those in the clubs singing "I have decided to follow Jesus", doesn't mean it's an omission we should take lightly or ignore, because that's how the church ended up with the huge mess it currently is, trying all possible means, including compromising the Word of God and omitting Its most essential parts, to get the crowd into the church, however in the long run, they ending up with a church full and brimming with souls, yet with the same worldly mindset of chasing "billions" and the vanities of this world but not willing to deny themselves, take up crosses and truly follow Jesus.

Hence why Jesus didn't compromise the Gospel even if it would be appealing to the crowd and make many of those disciples who left Him to remain, because just as He said, the flesh profits nothing, it's the Spirit that gives life.

That's why the church He left behind was able to withstand all the storms and persecution that was unleashed upon it.

It was a church that had decided to deny themselves, take up their crosses and truly follow Jesus.

Hence why they never turned back.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
"I Have Decided To Follow Jesus"?.