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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 2:41pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Boomark:Image123 I need this |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 2:51pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Don't you see what I feed it in the videos? Did I alter anything you posted? If I start talking off point it will tell me. The same with you. So I feed with our claims. We cannot remove Instructions and boundaries it must no exceed. It's default program favours trinity. So you requesting that we remove topic is indirectly ask it to favour you. It is not my fault if your topic or subtopic is not properly backed by scripture. That reason we are here. To verify the truth using a neutral third party. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 4:57pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
MINI CHALLENGE 2 Corinthians 3:17 HCSB [17] "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." My claim is that this scripture 2 Corinthians 3:17 is talking about Jesus Christ the Lord and not the Holy spirit. The ones that has Holy spirit are wrong interpretation/translation because it is talking about the Lord and Jesus Christ is the Lord not the Holy spirit. So HSBC translation is good. The Holy spirit was never called Lord. LORD as it was used in the old testament was used to replace the name of God the Father (Yahweh). The God of Abraham as seen in Acts. The Jews knew the the God of their forefathers. Jesus Christ is Lord because God made him Lord. The Holy spirit was not known as Lord because what the disciples and apostles preached to both Jew and Gentile is that Jesus Christ is Lord. They bear witness to the Lord Jesus Christ. The surrounding scriptures in 2 Corinthians 3 and chapter 4 points to the right context that the verse about is talking the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy spirit testified about Jesus and reminded the disciples everything Jesus said which includes that Jesus Christ is Lord. The Jews and Gentiles who turn to the Lord Jesus will have their veil removed. It is not written anywhere that people should turn to the Holy spirit for salvation. Jesus also confirmed and said that he is the Lord by himself. Key verses: 2 Corinthians 3:13-18 HCSB [13] We are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the Israelites could not stare at the end of what was fading away, [14] but their minds were closed. For to this day, at the reading of the old covenant, the same veil remains; it is not lifted, because it is set aside only in Christ. [15] Yes, even today when they read Moses’ writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand. [16] But whenever someone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. [17] For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. [18] So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. 2 Corinthians 4:3-6 NLT [3] If the Good News we preach is hidden behind a veil, it is hidden only from people who are perishing. [4] Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. [5] You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. [6] For God, who said, “Let there be light in the darkness,” has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ. Romans 10:9-10, 12-13 NLT [9] If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. [10] For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. [12] Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. [13] For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 2 Corinthians 4:3-6 NLT [3] If the Good News we preach is hidden behind a veil, it is hidden only from people who are perishing. [4] Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. [5] You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. [6] For God, who said, “Let there be light in the darkness,” has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:21, 36 NLT [21] But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. [36] “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” 1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT [45] The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. Acts of the Apostles 11:20-21 NLT [20] However, some of the believers who went to Antioch from Cyprus and Cyrene began preaching to the Gentiles about the Lord Jesus. [21] The power of the Lord was with them, and a large number of these Gentiles believed and turned to the Lord. Deuteronomy 6:4 NIV Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Psalm 83:18 NKJV That they may know that You, whose name alone is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. Psalms 83:18 HCSB [18] May they know that You alone — whose name is Yahweh — are the Most High over all the earth. Acts 3:13 HCSB [13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you handed over... John 13:13-14 HCSB [13] You call Me Teacher and Lord. This is well said, for I am. [14] So if I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. Luke 6:46 HCSB [46] “Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and don’t do the things I say? Matthew 7:21-22 HCSB [21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ John 15:26-27 NIV [26] “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me. [27] And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning. John 14:26 NIV [26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 4:58pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Boomark:No problem. It is up to you, i only explained how AI works. The results it gives showing who used scripture more clearly and accurately, did either person use scripture out of context, did either side prove or avoid the point, who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone, and which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone can change or differ significantly just by introducing a heading/topic/subtopic. So you need to prioritise what you want: an echo chamber or a real/neutral analysis based solely on the posts and Bible verses used? For the umpteenth time, i don't care about the AI results for myself. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 5:00pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Boomark:That the Father is God, the Son Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet they are one God. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 5:26pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Boomark:ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. i wonder where on earth you got that. Anyway, listen to your ChatGPT yourself, i helped you to ask in the images attached below.
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 8:11pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
MINI CHALLENGE RESULT This is to prove the AI does not know who is who but it analyse base on how make your claim. If you make a good claim it will tell you. If you make a bad or out of point claim it will tell you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISzp8PQ5gsQ?si=fKmlAXuSx2-2DnU7 Winner: MR B (Boomark) with landslide victory. Image123 please accept the results if it is the same with yours or post a video of your own result.
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 8:35pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Image123 I told you earlier that if I win don't think that I'm doing magic. If you look at the analysis you will see that I never made mistake in hitting the target even with fewer bible verses. That's the power of being on the side of truth. You might be wondering what gave me the confidence to do this challenge even after seeing "Holy Spirit" in NIrV translation. When you stand on the truth everything will flow. I have chosen to stand Yahweh the only true God and Christ Jesus alone. Not with any church doctrine, organisation, or Nicea agreement. So now you will stop blaming AI and start focusing on yourself and your belief. I will post result for round 4 soon. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 10:33pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Round 4 Result Boomark: 0 points Image123: +10 point Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring) Boomark: 0 Final score Boomark: 0 points Image123: +10 points Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC2g4CK4MKE?si=ZuK9qkY7FabC-9k3 Keen contest. Image123 Won
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 10:38pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
Image123 Aaaahh! This round 4. Keenly contested. But you are slowly drifting away from trinity o. Your subtopic didn't reflect anything about trinity. But no problem I will always support your claim as long as if has nothing to do with trinity. Congratulations. Tomorrow we start round 5. At least we have distractions anymore. L |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 7:09am On Aug 05, 2025 |
Good for you Boomark. i still await the next round oh. Like i used to say, na you need AI, i don't. If anything, i believe you have learned the following. 1. In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy Spirit" is the Spirit of the Lord. What AI has said IN CONTEXT is that the Lord is Jesus, because Jesus is Lord, which is my Trinity claim BTW. i didn't show that the Spirit is Lord in the same way that i showed that Jesus is Lord and therefore God. No wahala. You insisted that you didn't see the Holy Spirit in the verse and in your direct words said "In 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Holy spirit" is not the spirit of the Lord." You must have also learned that 2. ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. 3. AI is subject to the topic asked. 4. AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO" Thank you.
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 1:29pm On Aug 05, 2025*. Modified: 6:14pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Round 5 Subtopic: Jesus Christ is the servant of God the Father. Claim: Jesus himself in Matthew 12:15-21 confirmed what was written in Isaiah 42:1-4, that he is a servant of God the Father. that masters are greater than their servants. Jesus is subject to God the Father who subjected everything to him. Jesus said his God who is also known as God the Father is greater than him. God the Father is not equal to Jesus Christ his servant. Key verses: Matthew 12:15-18 HCSB [15] When Jesus became aware of this, He withdrew from there. Huge crowds followed Him, and He healed them all. [16] He warned them not to make Him known, [17] so that what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: [18] Here is My Servant whom I have chosen, My beloved in whom My soul delights; I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations... Isaiah 42:1-4 HCSB [1] “This is My Servant; I strengthen Him, this is My Chosen One; I delight in Him. I have put My Spirit on Him; He will bring justice to the nations. [2] He will not cry out or shout or make His voice heard in the streets. [3] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick; He will faithfully bring justice. [4] He will not grow weak or be discouraged until He has established justice on earth. The islands will wait for His instruction.” Acts 4:27, 30 HCSB [27] “For, in fact, in this city both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, assembled together against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, [30] while You stretch out Your hand for healing, signs, and wonders to be performed through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.” 1 Corinthians 15:24, 27-28 HCSB [24] Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power. [27] For God has put everything under His feet. But when it says “everything” is put under Him, it is obvious that He who puts everything under Him is the exception. [28] And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all. John 13:16 NIV [16] Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. John 15:20 NIV [20] Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. Matthew 10:24 NIV [24] “The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. John 14:28 NIV [28] “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Hebrews 10:5-7 NIV [5] Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; [6] with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. [7] Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” Do you agree Image123? |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 2:36pm On Aug 05, 2025*. Modified: 6:42pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
Image123:You could not show me the word "Holy spirit" until I gave you NIrV and told you to use it. I saw Holy spirit, I saw the Lord and I saw Jehovah. The Lord I know is Jesus Christ. So now you have seen Jehovah below in NWT. Do you expect me to force you to accept it? That was why we did the mini challenge and the truth shows that it is Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 3:17 NWT 17. Now Jehovah is the Spirit, and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom. See what is written in New World Translation. You are not the only one that have bible to quote from. My job is to show you that you are believing falsehood and I have done that very beautifully. I believe that you have learnt that you are believing falsehood. I used the word of God to prove that the verse you quoted above is a wrong translation. So learn that from me. AI only confirmed that I did a good job. Stop blaming AI for your wrong belief. You failed because Boomark of God destroyed your claim. It is me that did it and I did it with the word of God. You lamentation will not change the fact that you are believing the wrong things. AI does not know who is who. It was neutral and 50:50. You did the test in your own AI and you failed. You also failed woeful my own AI. You are still insisting on something that has failed. If all the people in the world try it in their own AI you will still fail. Know that your trinity doctrine was already buried in Round 1 by my claim and in Round 2 by my rebuttal. Round 2 is where you defined trinity. Round 1 and 2 is our main topic. Every other thing you and I are doing is just presentations that support those rounds. If you want a redo of Round 2 to reflect on your current definition of trinity we can still do it since you all don't have one definition of trinity. You have also failed to defend trinity well in round 4 because you didn't not tell us how the Holy spirit was also call the Raviour and Redeemer. Normally you should have scored 0. You cannot be discussing "twonity" as trinity. This is deceitful. You are deviating from what you defined as trinity. Henceforth your subtopics should reflect what you gave as your Main topic. I will update the instructions and rules these things. It is an error to abandon your main topic which is the reason of our discussion. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 6:38pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
Image123 Good evening bro Please go to the op and read through. I have add Rule 7 and instructions 6 to enable us not to go astray from our main topic and the purpose of this discussion. I have made some minor updates. Please from tomorrow I might have much time online. So I extend the time limit to 48 hours. This doesn't mean I won't reply within 24 hrs if I'm available. Please bear with me. Thanks Check Round 5. I have posted it already |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 8:07am On Aug 06, 2025*. Modified: 8:59am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Boomark:Lolz, there's no VERSUS in your newly edited topic, my dear. You have changed the topic based on your prior ignorance of what we've been saying and teaching. Everyone who says there's God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit is aware and preaches that the Father is over all. It is you who should be humble enough to see now and accept that Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Not this AI-inspired motive of "The Father is One God over all and greater than all who are called God". You didn't and have not openly stated that Jesus is God or that the Holy Spirit is God. That is our teaching, so this your new stance of "who are called God" is deceptive. Tell us plainly that you now realise that Jesus is God. This your topic is itself a subtopic under our teaching. You are the one who teaches that Jesus is not God and the Holy Spirit is not God but a force or influence, so it's strange that you come to hide under the they are God but the Father is greater. No one argued or contested greatness. Kindly get your understanding right, instead of wasting time trying hard to win an argument. You should be asking why Jesus is a servant of God. Jesus Christ came into the world to die and save sinners, but He also LIVED. He lived to be the Author and Finisher of our faith, the alpha and omega of the faith of His followers, and our perfect EXAMPLE. He came to show us an example. As our perfect example, He taught us to be humble and serving. He taught us that being a servant is not just a title but an attitude. He humbled Himself, teaching us the servant and meek attitude. This is relatable and achievable to all humanity. The majority of humanity is poor and more in the servant category, and Jesus identified with our weaknesses and infirmities as stated in Hebrews 4. He didn't come as a royal King, up there aristocratic class, saving the world. He came to show us that God's will is humility, and that when you are humble, God lifts you up. Hence, He was not just a servant to God, but servant of all. He became lowest and the least of men, and true to His word, He was made first. This is also explained in Isaiah 52 and 53 where Jesus is referenced as the servant who will be exalted, after being marred more than any man. This is examplary. Not just in title, like we see people today who address themselves as servants of God but are nearly worshipped, or in the secular world where they promise to serve, only to come and lord it over all. Jesus was Master, but He was always ready for service and portrayed the attitude of a servant. They could barely recognise Him apart from the disciples. He chose to be born in a manger instead of a palace. He chose to live and grow up in Nazareth, which was very much local, than to be in the Jerusalem capital. He chose to associate with Galileans which were considered uneducated and of less class compared to the religious rulers and Sanheddrin. He lived as a servant and a life of service to all, not just to the Father. He was subject to the Spirit of God, to His parents, to death and to the rule of the land and its leadership. We can't say today that because Jesus obeyed or was subject to death or to His earthly parent, therefore He is still servant. The reasons why He was a servant and subservient to them is clear from the scriptures. He demonstrated the expected christian life where both elder and younger christians are subject/servant one to another. Please learn rather than win or lose. Key verses: All KJV as previously stated Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 1Pe_2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Joh 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 2Co_13:4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Mat_18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Mat_23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. Jas_4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Jas_4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. 1Pe_5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. Mar_9:35 And he sat down, and called the twelve, and saith unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all. Isa 52:13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. Isa 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: Mat_26:48 Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast. Mar_14:44 And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely. Luk_2:16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. Joh_1:46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Joh 7:52 They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet. Luk_4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Luk 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. Php_2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Mar_12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him. Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 8:20am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Boomark:Lolz, it appears it really pained you sorry. It's clear you don't know or understand the teaching of Trinity. Tell me, what do you know the doctrine of trinity to be? |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 8:43am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Boomark:i never said that the word "Holy spirit" is in the verse. i said that the Holy Spirit is there and that He is Lord. i even bolded Him clearly in the verse "Spirit of the Lord". i was later surprised you were more interested in word jangling. AI concluded that Jesus is the Lord, which was one of my points in the rounds anyway. It argued that Jesus is referenced as Lord in many parts of the Bible, it didn't disprove or contest the divinity of the Holy Spirit. Jehovah is the Spirit, the same you said Jehovah is the Father but to win an argument, you agree that Jesus is Jehovah and it's the word of God. LoLz. i see you are still crying seriously about round 4. Perhaps there's no tweak you tried that helped you on ChatGPT. Sorry. Like i have said several times, i am not here for AI, you are. i am here to discuss with you and explain to readers step by step. You'll not see me continously lumping the same thing robotically in circles. God is Father over all and Jesus is obedient to Him. That's the summary of all you've continued to say in many words. i am showing step by step what and how makes Jesus Christ divine and God, same for the Holy Spirit. Don't expect me to jam-pack everything in one, you'll continue to struggle to grasp the revelation that way. But step by step, now you know that Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity, AI is subject to the topic asked, AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO". You've also learned that Jesus is Lord and He is called God. This is very good progress and i am very happy for you. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 1:57pm On Aug 06, 2025 |
Round 6 Subtopic: The Holy Spirit performs functions that make Him divine and He is referred to several times as either belonging to God or Christ or the Lord. Claim: Reading the Bible, we see that the Holy Spirit is a person and He is distinct from the Father and the Son. As stated in the subtopic, His functions as seen in the Bible are divine. These functions include, but are not limited to His works in creation, the resurrection of Jesus, and the inspiration of the Bible. These are all works of God. Apart from these, the Bible tells us that He is eternal, He is everywhere, and He knows everything. As i stated, He is referred to as the Spirit of God, of Christ, and of the Lord: Key verses: Eph_4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Psa 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth. Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 1Co 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. 1Pe_3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Pe_1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Rev_2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Rev_3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 1Co_2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 2Sa_23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue. Isa_40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him? Act_8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Deu 33:27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Deu 33:27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Do you agree Boomark? |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 11:08pm On Aug 06, 2025 |
Image123:The only thing I understand is that trinity is a false doctrine. There is nothing to learn from something that is a lie. It obvious you don't know you are talking out of point in that your round 5 rebuttal. You are free to challenge and my main topic again with the mistake you think I made. Let do it what I use to do others. AI is not my wife or brother or father or my relative to be partial to me always even in your own phone. As if it like me so much even in your phone. No. The reason is because you talk out of point and don't even know. It will see all your out of point comment and fail you. There is nothing to learn from something that has failed. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 6:52am On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:At least, thanks to God, you now know that Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity, AI is subject to the topic asked, AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO". You've also learned that Jesus is Lord and He is called God. This is very good progress. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 11:49am On Aug 07, 2025 |
Image123:You always talk out of point because you are already confused by trinity and no understand the bible. Who doesn't know that the Holy spirit is the spirit of God. You have been deceive because whenever you see God you think it is 3 persons. You don't know who is who. I have learnt that Jesus Christ is Lord? You are now sounding desperate to remain relevant with your trinity.You don't even understand 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 which I use often to destroy your claims. The Holy spirit is the the spirit of God the Father and it belongs to him. Christ also belongs to God. All things came from God the Father. That it why you see ".. of God" man of God, Son of God, Spirit of God, children of God. Continue blaming AI for rejecting your out of point belief. You can't force it to accept falsehood. Even your own AI have rejected you. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 11:58am On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:The Mini challenge stands as it remains unopposed. It was a test for ChatGPT neutrality when given specific instructions. It was 50:50. The participants tested the claims in their various phones. The false claim failed in both phones and it will fail in any other person's phone. We cannot permit wayo by removing those instructions which no one disagreed with. The truth stands like a strong tower. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 12:38pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Image123 Please always wait for me to post the result of each round before you make a claim. Posting of the results marks the end of the current round and the beginning of a new round. So that everything will be in order. Thank you. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 2:07pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:My dear, i am not subject to your results, i told you that from the beginning and i have reiterated it. i am here to discuss with you and you're free to do what you will of the discussion. Na you know wetin you dey find for chatgpt, my faith is not based on it. i can only point you to your flaws in using it, seeing it's critical for you. i use AI regularly but for mundane purposes. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 2:15pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:It's not surprising though worrisome, for someone who never sees his wrong or fault.
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 5:32pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Image123:You don't understand english. That is why you talk out of point and out of context. Mini challenge has buried your wrong belief. I told you before then to do all your best so you don't blame me if you fail. I said that because I knew you have already failed even before we start. I see ahead of all those believing falsehood. Now you have failed and you are here blaming me. Go back and what the AI analysis and see how you failed. Learn from it and stop reading bible out of context. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 5:34pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Image123:So stop complaining about it. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 6:13pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:Not complaining, i have only corrected you to not manipulate AI either knowingly or unknowingly. Prior to my corrections, you erroneously denied ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity, AI is subject to the topic asked, AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO". Now you know and i am glad about the growth achieved. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 7:41pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Image123:Stop correcting me. Go to the videos and point out any manipulation. I feed it with what all that you and I wrote. Show me where I made that denial in your bolded comment. I want to show people how you lie and talk off point. |
| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 7:57pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:Prior to my corrections, you erroneously denied ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity, AI is subject to the topic asked, AI and chatgpt depend on what you feed and on GIGO". Now you know and i am glad about the growth achieved. Now move forward already, or you lost yet again on AI and still looking for what to do?
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 7:58pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Round 5 Result Boomark: +10 points Image123: 0 point Points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring) Image123: -5 points Boomark: +5 points Final score Boomark: +15points Image123: -5 points Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more. https://youtube.com/shorts/rSY2gkJWmzA?si=7VCnh9tzzT7iG6ge
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| Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 8:13pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Boomark:Lolz, i saw the charade at first view. No worries, i will correct your ignorance yet again. It's your destiny. |
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You are now sounding desperate to remain relevant with your trinity.