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achorladey:
Didn't I tell you the question was not meant for you? In time you will see the chameleon. At least you know he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Keep that in your diary.

We may differ in some other aspects buh in terms of being organized, we're together. Pentecostals brought disorderliness and division in Christianity.

Peacecore:

They (the pastors) are probably afraid of losing them

Jehovah's Witnesses also tells members not to mingle with apostates (former members of the organization who now believes they know better than current members) not someone who attends any other religion. Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10; Jude 1:19

WHY?

Because such ones can't present a better performing group rather they are only seeking support for their rebellion against those taking the lead in the faith!

Peacecore:
We may differ in some other aspects buh in terms of being organized, we're together. Pentecostals brought disorderliness and division in Christianity.

What or who are Jehovah's Witnesses to you?

Answer: Branch of Roman Catholic

Pentecostals brought disorderliness and division in Christianity

For every action there is equal and opposite reaction. Where did pentecostals originate from? That division you talked about started from somewhere.

Peacecore:

Exactly the way to do things. Even Paul would go as low as join idolators just to convince them.

Manner of approach during preaching is what we are debating here this problem which the founder of Christianity himself has solved in the first century.

He taught us to engage individuals who may welcome our message or reject it so it's not a matter of shouting indiscriminately into thin air claiming we are doing so for Jesus who has laid down procedure to carry out his father's will in a orderly manner and appropriately!

MaxInDHouse:
Manner of approach during preaching is what we are debating here this problem which the founder of Christianity himself has solved in the first century.

He taught us to engage individuals who may welcome our message or reject it so it's not a matter of shouting indiscriminately into thin air claiming we are doing so for Jesus who has laid down procedure to carry out his father's will in a orderly manner and appropriately!

They're deluded

achorladey:
What or who are Jehovah's Witnesses to you?

Answer: Branch of Roman Catholic



For every action there is equal and opposite reaction. Where did pentecostals originate from? That division you talked about started from somewhere.

There are still exception in everything. Eg; Assemblies of God can't be equated with Anglican in terms of orderliness.

achorladey:
What or who are Jehovah's Witnesses to you?

Answer: Branch of Roman Catholic



For every action there is equal and opposite reaction. Where did pentecostals originate from? That division you talked about started from somewhere.

Those that started the division later left because they had agenda

Peacecore:
Those that started the division later left because they had agenda

From where did they leave?

Peacecore:
They're deluded

Secret is RIGHTEOUSNESS and HUMILITY!

before the decree takes effect and that day passes like windblown chaff, before the Lord’s fierce anger comes upon you, before the day of the Lord’s wrath comes upon you. Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek RIGHTEOUSNESS, seek HUMILITY; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord’s anger. ‭Zephaniah 2:2-3 NIV‬


Why did this prophet emphasized on the two qualities?

Well it's only when you do right things that you can feel free to knock on people's doors without fear, someone who is committing fornication or adultery will not find it easy because you may knock the door of someone with whom you're dragging girlfriend/boyfriend.
And if you're not humble you can't knock the door of someone with whom you are keeping malice.

So to the extent possible you must have a innocent hands and pure heart before you can preach the way Jesus taught his disciples! Matthew 10:16 compare to Psalms 24:3-4

Peacecore:
There are still exception in everything. Eg; Assemblies of God can't be equated with Anglican in terms of orderliness.

But no exception regarding how to preach publicly because it does not dance to your tune of exceptions. Just dey play oooooo.

Assemblies of God can't be equated with Anglican in terms of orderliness.

Let me be clear with you hear regarding the numerous christian denominations all over the world. All of them are organized. Even those having just one branch.

What I don't want to hear is someone coming to a platform like Nairaland to tell us that their own religious denomination or organization is the only organized religious organization or group doing God's will just to raise his own religious organization above others.


For example, do you(Peacecore) believe Jehovah's Witnesses is the only organized Christian religious denomination doing God's will on earth today?

A. Yes

B. No

You can choose to substitute Jehovah's witnesses with your Roman catholic if you want. Your answer will be interesting to note.

Peacecore:
Those that started the division later left because they had agenda

Wow!
May God bless you for this comment!

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
May God bless you for this comment!

Bless you too!
They thought that we don't know the history

achorladey:
But no exception regarding how to preach publicly because it does not dance to your tune of exceptions. Just dey play oooooo.



Let me be clear with you hear regarding the numerous christian denominations all over the world. All of them are organized. Even those having just one branch.

What I don't want to hear is someone coming to a platform like Nairaland to tell us that their own religious denomination or organization is the only organized religious organization or group doing God's will just to raise his own religious organization above others.


For example, do you(Peacecore) believe Jehovah's Witnesses is the only organized Christian religious denomination doing God's will on earth today?

A. Yes

B. No

You can choose to substitute Jehovah's witnesses with your Roman catholic if you want. Your answer will be interesting to note.

Ain't saying that you guys are not doing the will of God but when you put round pole into a square hole, it doesn't fit in.

MaxInDHouse:
Secret is RIGHTEOUSNESS and HUMILITY!

before the decree takes effect and that day passes like windblown chaff, before the Lord’s fierce anger comes upon you, before the day of the Lord’s wrath comes upon you. Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek RIGHTEOUSNESS, seek HUMILITY; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord’s anger. ‭Zephaniah 2:2-3 NIV‬


Why did this prophet emphasized on the two qualities?

Well it's only when you do right things that you can feel free to knock on people's doors without fear, someone who is committing fornication or adultery will not find it easy because you may knock the door of someone with whom you're dragging girlfriend/boyfriend.
And if you're not humble you can't knock the door of someone with whom you are keeping malice.

So to the extent possible you must have a innocent hands and pure heart before you can preach the way Jesus taught his disciples! Matthew 10:16 compare to Psalms 24:3-4

Many chose self righteousness over through righteousness shouting in the open to be noticed

achorladey:
From where did they leave?

King Henry Viii of England when he was determined to annul his marriage with Catherine and Aragon to marry Anne Boleyn after the Pope's refusal to approve it. He formed the Anglican church in 1535 AD which he declared himself the supreme leader. Presbyterian church was formed from already broken away Anglican because they oppose the existence of bishops- you can see how the disorderliness started till what we have today.

Peacecore:
King Henry Viii of England when he was determined to annul his marriage with Catherine and Aragon to marry Anne Boleyn after the Pope's refusal to approve it. He formed the Anglican church in 1535 AD which he declared himself the supreme leader. Presbyterian church was formed from already broken away Anglican because they oppose the existence of bishops- you can see how the disorderliness started till what we have today.

From where did they leave? Leave stories for another day. Where?

A. Roman Catholic.

B. From Pentecostals

Peacecore:
Ain't saying that you guys are not doing the will of God but when you put round pole into a square hole, it doesn't fit in.

Good, from the above you believe Jehovah’s witnesses are definitely not the only one doing God's will. Keep it in your diary for future reference.

Ain't saying that you guys are not doing the will of God but when you put round pole into a square hole, it doesn't fit in.

Who/what is the round pole?

Who/what is the square hole?

Peacecore:

Many chose self righteousness over through righteousness shouting in the open to be noticed

In the final analysis they don't answer to you as their master,they answer to their master.

achorladey:



Good, from the above you believe Jehovah’s witnesses are definitely not the only one doing God's will. Keep it in your diary for future reference.



Who/what is the round pole?

Who/what is the square hole?

The round pole is the gospel buh the square hole is the market places and roadsides.

achorladey:
From where did they leave? Leave stories for another day. Where?

A. Roman Catholic.

B. From Pentecostals

From Catholic, and that's why the formal name is Protestants. Pentecostals is just a spicy name

achorladey:
From where did they leave? Leave stories for another day. Where?

A. Roman Catholic.

B. From Pentecostals

In fact, was there anything like Pentecostal before 1535 AD?

Peacecore:
In fact, was there anything like Pentecostal before 1535 AD?

Your friend is gradually changing the topic of this thread from how Jesus laid the groundwork for preaching to which religion is true that's why he keeps on calling me to join him in his choice of topic which i won't do!
All sane individuals hates noise in their neighborhood the fact that God raised prophets in ancient Israel to serve as town criers (prophets) back then doesn't mean that's what He always wants rather it's when His worshipers are doing things contrary to His will that He raises prophets to call them to order so if they are doing what is right He wouldn't send anyone to disturb them with irritating noise.
In the first century the Jews were no longer under God's arrangement another nation (Rome) was determining the policies so it's inappropriate to send town criers into their streets because the authority may arrest such a person for noise pollution that's why God sent John as the only first century prophet to go into the WILDERNESS and from there he was SHOUTING! John 1:23 compare to Isaiah 40:3
From the moment that God was no longer their principal ruler He never sent anyone to go shouting in their streets that's why both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth never shout in their streets!
Today what these noisemakers are doing is ridiculing Christianity and giving it a bad name because onlookers seeing them will conclude they are Christians since they carry the Bible in their hands not knowing that's not the way Jesus Christ who is the Son of God commissioned the preaching work!

MaxInDHouse:
Your friend is gradually changing the topic of this thread from how Jesus laid the groundwork for preaching to which religion is true that's why he keeps on calling me to join him in his choice of topic which i won't do!
All sane individuals hates noise in their neighborhood the fact that God raised prophets in ancient Israel to serve as town criers (prophets) back then doesn't mean that's what He always wants rather it's when His worshipers are doing things contrary to His will that He raises prophets to call them to order so if they are doing what is right He wouldn't send anyone to disturb them with irritating noise.
In the first century the Jews were no longer under God's arrangement another nation (Rome) was determining the policies so it's inappropriate to send town criers into their streets because the authority may arrest such a person for noise pollution that's why God sent John as the only first century prophet to go into the WILDERNESS and from there he was SHOUTING! John 1:23 compare to Isaiah 40:3
From the moment that God was no longer their principal ruler He never sent anyone to go shouting in their streets that's why both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth never shout in their streets!
Today what these noisemakers are doing is ridiculing Christianity and giving it a bad name because onlookers seeing them will conclude they are Christians since they carry the Bible in their hands not knowing that's not the way Jesus Christ who is the Son of God commissioned the preaching work!

I don't even know that it's not only me that noticed it. I don't think there's any other thing he need to hear from you. Ridiculing Christianity is my major concern about their activities otherwise I don't have business with whatever they do as far as I may chose not to stop and listen to them buh haba it's becoming too much.

Peacecore:
I don't even know that it's not only me that noticed it. I don't think there's any other thing he need to hear from you. Ridiculing Christianity is my major concern about their activities otherwise I don't have business with whatever they do as far as I may chose not to stop and listen to them buh haba it's becoming too much.

Note one thing he gradually shifted your line of argument into mentioning the name of your church and since he knows mine he wants to use that as a means to turn everyone who has been in support of the truth against you.

I trailed most of those i knew very well on this forum as Pentecostals yet they are against this street noise making on this thread. Acholardey knows many of them used to criticize the Catholic Church so once they know that it's a Catholic that's raising this topic they will all turn against the opinion they supported in the first place.

That's what he's trying to do because he's against orderliness or anything that's organized.

@Peacecore.
Check the likes those speaking against street noise making got on this thread.
For your information most of them are Pentecostals and they know that it's their members that are making noise in streets and buses.
When has any of their G.Os corrected it in all their churches?
That's what achorladey wants them to think so they can turn against you!

MaxInDHouse:
@Peacecore.
Check the likes those speaking against street noise making got on this thread.
For your information most of them are Pentecostals and they know that it's their members that are making noise in streets and buses.
When has any of their G.Os corrected it in all their churches?
That's what achorladey wants them to think so they can turn against you!

Sure! At least I have seen neither a Jehovah's witnesses or a Catholic doing that. It's either Achorladey is one or he's a pastor that encourages his members to do that. I don't think I'll ever subscribe to that form of preach. It's become a dent on the image of the religion. They've replaced doctrines with personal thoughts

Peacecore:
In fact, was there anything like Pentecostal before 1535 AD?

From where did they leave .

A. Roman Catholics

B. I don't know

Peacecore:
Sure! At least I have seen neither a Jehovah's witnesses or a Catholic doing that. It's either Achorladey is one or he's a pastor that encourages his members to do that. I don't think I'll subscribe to that form of preach. It's become a dent on the image of the religion. They've replaced doctrines with personal thoughts

Acholardey was born by parents who are Jehovah's Witnesses so just as the angel who turned against his heavenly father and started criticizing, slandering and betraying his father that's exactly what Achorladey is doing now.
Satan is a sadist because upon all his effort there has always been faithful people who loves knowing and doing the right thing whereas Satan's target is to promote isolation where each person will think of himself or herself as God without submitting to anyone! Genesis 3:4-5
So whatever will make people agree to be organized in doing anything for God exjws won't support it.
For your information they are the group of individuals Jesus referred to as "GOATS" because goat is a domestic animal that detests orderliness so they are never organized whereas sheep always love to submit to order and always organized. Matthew 25:31-32

Peacecore:
Sure! At least I have seen neither a Jehovah's witnesses or a Catholic doing that. It's either Achorladey is one or he's a pastor that encourages his members to do that. I don't think I'll ever subscribe to that form of preach. It's become a dent on the image of the religion. They've replaced doctrines with personal thoughts

Loooool that one hiding his real face beside you saying I am restless knows Jehovah's Witnesses were equally shouting all over the world with their concocted good news in times past. They mounted their loudspeakers as if the world will end in the next minutes and they were sure it was the best thing to do regarding the Good news

Now they no longer use he has the mouth to speak against others preaching publicly.

Peacecore:
The round pole is the gospel buh the square hole is the market places and roadsides.

Based on your regimented thinking of how the gospel should be preached.

Now see this.....

preach the word [as an official messenger]; be ready when the time is right and even when it is not [keep your sense of urgency, whether the opportunity seems favorable or unfavorable, whether convenient or inconvenient, whether welcome or unwelcome]; correct [those who err in doctrine or behavior], warn [those who sin], exhort and encourage [those who are growing toward spiritual maturity], with inexhaustible patience and [faithful] teaching.

You think the whole knowledge of the Bible go as far as only you

achorladey:
Loooool that one hiding his real face beside you saying I am restless knows Jehovah's Witnesses were equally shouting all over the world with their concocted good news in times past. They mounted their loudspeakers as if the world will end in the next minutes and they were sure it was the best thing to do regarding the Good news
Now they no longer use he has the mouth to speak against others preaching publicly.

Highlighted has vindicated God's Organization!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have known the truth regarding that now as the light keeps getting brighter! Proverbs 4:18

So we don't disturb passersby with noise after having the accurate knowledge of truth!

Peacecore:
I don't even know that it's not only me that noticed it. I don't think there's any other thing he need to hear from you. Ridiculing Christianity is my major concern about their activities otherwise I don't have business with whatever they do as far as I may chose not to stop and listen to them buh haba it's becoming too much.

That one hiding under Roman Catholic as Jehovah's Witnesses is yet to tell you those they believe are chief in riduculing Christianity

Those you say are shouting are not the first riduculing Christianity. Your religious organization are accused of using SLAVERY to advance CHRISTIANITY that is not RIDICULING Christianity

Do you want us to believe and accept that Roman Catholic has never been accused of riduculing Christianity?

A. Yes

B. No

Whatever options you pick. You will be at the mercy of your own words