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[quote author=PlasmaTV post=136427887][/quote]Please go and argue it with Ibom Air and her victims.

Upon arrival in Lagos, Ms. Emmanson waited for all other passengers to disembark and then proceeded to confront the Purser who had earlier instructed her. She walked up to the unsuspecting Purser, stepped on her, forcibly tore off her wig, removed her glasses and threw it to the floor, and used her footwear to assault her. She slapped her several times and when the other cabin crew member tried to intervene, she slapped her too. She then attempted to forcibly remove a fire extinguisher to use as a weapon, an act that could have damaged and grounded the aircraft.

By this time, the Pilot-in-Command had alerted airport security. Before security could arrive, the Purser as seen on the viral video on the internet, prevented the passenger from leaving the aircraft until security arrived. The arrival of Ibom Air Security personnel, did not deter the passenger as she attacked them as well, lashing out violently at the security personnel. She was then restrained and removed from the aircraft by force. Even after disembarking, she continued to assault Ibom Air security personnel, and even slapped the ground supervisor.

The passenger was removed from the ramp and taken into custody by FAAN security and handed over to the Nigeria Police Force for further investigation. [

Yes I agree.

KWAM 1 the original plane stopper offence was way worse.

Also, why did the staff of Ibom Air restrict the lady from leaving the plane when everyone had left

Adesina18111:
Welcome to Nigeria... Only poor man pikin go suffer... In a sane country, KWAM1 or whatever his name is would have been behind the bars now

Mr Achimugu's statement actually makes some sense. The airline acted within its right in Miss Emmanson's case. In the case of K1, the airline chose not to act - also within its right. It's unfair, but it's what it is.

But that's for the civil aspect. For the criminal aspect, how come the POLICE promptly detained, investigated and are prosecuting Miss Emmanson but have done nothing about K1's case?

I fear fon Naija citizens at this period of time oo, it seems many are undergoing psychological trauma, hence, behaving like lunatic that just let loose, from the rich down to the poor. No thanks to economy harsh policies.

define the word assault. also pouring Kai Kai on the pilot is what??
Comparison and Analysis of Handling

Both incidents involved violations of aviation safety rules and disruptive behavior: KWAM 1 refused to comply with crew instructions, endangered lives by blocking a plane, and allegedly assaulted an officer with liquid.
KWAM 2 refused to follow instructions and physically assaulted staff. However, the outcomes differ starkly:
Legal Action: ValueJet did not sue KWAM 1, so no court case ensued against him.e2ebc5 Ibom Air sued Emmanson immediately, leading to her arraignment and remand.5354ad The NCAA lacks prosecutorial powers and can only refer cases to law enforcement or impose bans; it emphasized that airlines' decisions to pursue civil suits determine court involvement.df563f
Severity Perception: Some argue KWAM 1's actions were more dangerous (risking a plane's takeoff), yet he avoided custody.2f918f Others note Emmanson's assault was more direct and violent.

Influencing Factors:
KWAM 1's celebrity status and connections (e.g., to political figures) likely played a role in the softer treatment, allowing time for an apology.3e1693 Emmanson, as a non-celebrity, faced swift, harsh consequences without similar leniency. This fuels accusations of class-based justice: "One law for the rich, one for the poor."
The NCAA insists it's not double standards, as the cases were handled per airline policies and regulations.14f981 Aviation Minister Festus Keyamo has called for better staff training and security coordination to prevent such escalations.45ca5e However, critics like activist Dele Farotimi mock the authorities for favoritism, pointing to systemic issues in Nigeria's justice system.

Nazgul:
I'm not a fan of Kwam1 but I think I have to agree with NCAA that it's not the same incident. At least he didn't damage the aircraft or assault anyone.

Brendaniel:
Would you say the same thing if the musician involved was Flavour?

Allen Oyenma has been wanted in the US for abut 5 years now, since that time, many Nigerians have been extradited to the same US.
There is not press crying as to why his case is different. The man is walking arounf free while wanted by the FBI for fraud.
If Allen Oynema had been Femi Otedola, I can gauranteee you that the bias Nigerian press and the social media mob would be singing about it on daily basis. But now they are all acting as if they do not know that the man is wanted. Blind hypocrites

kodded:
Her actions are justified As long as she switch her phone to airplane mode before the altercation started

Her action is not justifiable at all.
Many Nigerians are crazy, she might not do that and lied she did it. If accident happened now, you won’t be asking Gpt this nonsense question you are asking.
Don’t you know most Nigerians don’t obey simple instructions?
If I have an airline industry, I will instruct them to submit their phone , not switching off at all.

techiGenius:
Lol

Physical assault to 1 person or maybe two is now considered more serious than an act of terrorism?

Do you know what grounding an airline means? Endangering the lives of hundreds? Pls educate yourself with the laws first

Sentiments all the time in Nigeria. E go touch everybody

Do you know what grounding an airplane as an act of terrorism means? Maybe you should ask Google for more thorough education

That said, common sense to any sane mind shows that Kwam1 endangered his own life by stepping in front of the plane, while the other lady physically assaulted people inside a plane endangering lives.

Nonsense!

YesDaddyTill203:
Allen Oyenma has been wanted in the US for abut 5 years now, since thahat tme

And what does that have to do with our discussion here?

If U.S government wants him they will arrest him...

OgbeniOja1:
define the word assault. also pouring Kai Kai on the pilot is what??

Laugh done kill me.

Tohsynetita1:
Her action is not justifiable at all.
Many Nigerians are crazy, she might not do that and lied she did it. If accident happened now, you won’t be asking Gpt this nonsense question you are asking.
Don’t you know most Nigerians don’t obey simple instructions?
If I have an airline industry, I will instruct them to submit their phone , not switching off at all.

Ok

Brendaniel:
And what does that have to do with our discussion here?

If U.S government wants him they will arrest him...

It goes to show the bias in the press and the social media noise.
Would you have said the same thing if the man wanted is Femi Otedola of Dangote?

No, people like you will be crying about it on daily basis, but because he's Igbo, the press and the social media mob are acting like the story dooesn't exist.

Be honest for a minute, will the story have died down and barely in any news or social media blogs if the wanted man is eith Dangote or Otedola.

The social media mob will remind us on daily basis that they are wanted but now they don't even want to talk about it.

The hypocrisy is galring and nauseating.

of cause its isn't the same , let the clowns keep making noise about it.

Is KWAMM 1 a family member of KAMM 2 in any way?
Kwamm1 poured Ogogoro on the airport personnel while KAMM 2. molested the airline personnel

Be quoting ChatGPT when Ibom Air has their own rules .....

Is it by force to fly on the airline?

People like you will be shivering if ordered by a White person. Turn to tiger once it is a fellow Nigerian

kodded:
As long as she switch her phone to airplane mode before the altercation started then ibom air are wrong

[quote author=carzeem1 post=136427857][b]Make of it what you want. Kwam 1 offense was of national security proportion. He stopped an airline from moving disrupting the aviation timeline and airspace control also holding 100s of passengers hostage because he was not allowed to fly.

I like kwam1,but his case is worse than that young babe wey lack home training, but the girl will learn in hard way

Adesina18111:
Welcome to Nigeria... Only poor man pikin go suffer... In a sane country, KWAM1 or whatever his name is would have been behind the bars now

Did you read the post you are replying to or your reponse is tribal and hatred induced?

He added that while Ibom Air swiftly charged Emmanson to court, ValueJet did not press charges in KWAM 1’s case, prompting NCAA to petition the authorities.

Exactly what I been saying..

Valuejet didn’t press charges against K1. I’m suspecting the owner is a Fan if K1..

YesDaddyTill203:
It goes to show the bias in the press and the social media noise.
Would you have said the same thing if the man wanted is Femi Otedola of Dangote?

No, people like you will be crying about it on daily basis, but because he's Igbo, the press and the social media mob are acting like the story dooesn't exist.

Be honest for a minute, will the story have died down and barely in any news or social media blogs if the wanted man is eith Dangote or Otedola.

The social media mob will remind us on daily basis that they are wanted but now they don't even want to talk about it.

The hypocrisy is galring and nauseating.

Listen to yourself, am I a U.S citizen? what is my business with Allen Oyeama ?

Do I have anything to do with him?

if he is guilty they should come and pick him up, I have little to no information on the issue he has with them, if he is guilty they should come and pick him up, what are the waiting for?

your analysis is pure nonsense, you guys see everything from tribal lens

The video I saw didn’t show her hitting a cabin crew and she didn’t fight with those who came to restrain her.

The video captured the voices of other cabin crew saying the suspect was hitting a cabin crew. Afterwards, two guys walked into the cabin, dragging her out with her titties on full display.

I’m not defending her action, just saying what I saw in the video I watched. Perhaps there could be other videos out there.

If they are relying on that video which I saw, that wouldn’t get them judgement,

However Kwam1 case was worse. He literarily caused risks to the whole passengers and crew. They shouldn’t try to spin this story.

Adesina18111:
Welcome to Nigeria... Only poor man pikin go suffer... In a sane country, KWAM1 or whatever his name is would have been behind the bars now

He added that while Ibom Air swiftly charged Emmanson to court, ValueJet did not press charges in KWAM 1’s case, prompting NCAA to petition the authorities.

Did you read this?

This is the dummest, lame excuse.
So the lady was charged to court because ibom air charged her, but kwan 1 was not charged to court because valuejet did not charge him. This man must be stupid for insulting peoples intelligence.
I gave an instance earlier, If you go to the airport, climb the British airways check-in counter, bring out your gbola and release a fountain of urine, then pull your pants and defecate on the counter, will you be allowed to go free because British Airways did not press charges? If you go to rob a bank and you are caught will the police release you because the bank did not press charges?

Pouring "alcohol" on the pilot and other officials of valuejet isn't an ASSAULT?

Exactly, they are two different scenarios. Tempering with aircraft safety device in this case fire extinguisher is a serious issue among all other offences she committed.

Brendaniel:
Listen to yourself, am I a U.S citizen? what is my business with Allen Oyeama ?

Do I have anything to do with him?

if he is guilty they should come and pick him up, I have little to no information on the issue he has with them, if he is guilty they should come and pick him up, what are the waiting for?

your analysis is pure nonsense, you guys see everything from tribal lens

You people always accuse others of tribalaims while you are the champion in that regard. The only reason why you brough up Flavor is beaucse he's Igbo, is that not the case?
Again if Dangote or Otedola is wanted just like Oyenma is , and the govt refused to exradite him while exraditing others, you people will make it a nation anthem and sing about it on daily basis. But now it's irrelevant just because Oyenma is Igbo.
You guys are notjhing but blind Hypocrites.
What is your business with Oyenam? What is your business with this case? Is it not double satndard where Oyenma is allowed to wlak around freely while other Nigerians are exradited to the US for fraud? Is that not double standard?
How comae the bias Nigerian presss is quiet and the social media mob is also slilent on his case? WHY?

Yes. The first one is terrorism and the second is bully and assault. Una no well

AdolfHitlerxXx:
Be quoting ChatGPT when Ibom Air has their own rules .....

Is it by force to fly on the airline?

People like you will be shivering if ordered by a White person. Turn to tiger once it is a fellow Nigerian

Ok

jjbest123:
On Ibom Air, same opinion as with Value Jet.

If you lack what it takes to be a professional and escalate or de-escalate issues without devolving into caveman antics or relying on your brute force or emotional outburst, then get out of professional spaces.

Two wrongs can never make a right.

Sometimes I get severely provoked by people I have to deal with and what I do is to take a step back and immediately escalate to a superior.

You cannot hold an individual hostage when you do not have the authorities to arrest or detain people.

If the issue had been ongoing and had been escalated to AvSec, the lady didn’t need to be held hostage or even arrested on the plane, anywhere on the airport grounds is sufficient to pull her aside and have a word with her. You can also reach out to her afterwards using the manifest if you do not have the powers to arrest people.

Not sure if the air hostess or air hostesses in general are given the authority to conduct citizen arrests when they are given their cute little skirts and ish but just like the pilot that left the cockpit to come and have a one-on-on with Wasiu, most of these issues are arising either because people do not know where to draw the professional line and where to stand (otherwise known over here as “above my paygrade”); or they have zero conflict resolution skills.

Also, was that lady stripped?

Lol.

Anyway, let us focus on the professionals that took a minute or two to act like agberos, are you all willing now to have a conversation about how and why professionals should have a rein on their emotions and watch their reactions in public?


Whatever the issue was was not properly de-escalated when it started; and that was why it spilled into that embarrassing show of shame - a flying passenger is a customer and should not be treated with condescension just because.

If they refused to turn off their phones or switch it to flight mode; then the aircraft should not have taken off until they were removed from it or if the decision was made to fly to destination with them and then remove them there, AvSec should have been waiting for the plane upon arrival and done the detention and arrest themselves so they can let her know what offense she was being held for BEFORE going ahead to detain her.

Anyway, hopefully she has good lawyers or will get good lawyers.

Ibom Air and its representatives were highly unprofessional.

What is wrong with Aviation in Nigeria this August sef?

PS: Are we still switching off phones to board flights? What is the “flight mode” option for? In this day and age where we can hold full blown conversations with our people who are flying long haul, a woman got stripped by an airline staff for not “switching off her phone”?

Lol!

PPS: Seriously people should know how to determine what is within and above their paygrade and refuse to involve themselves in anything above or below your paygrade; or not in your job description. I have said it here before: do YOUR job (when in doubt, check your job description), get paid, go home.

That’s all.

It is when you overstep the boundaries of your JD that you make all of these gaffes and expose yourself to the risk of losing the job you were trying to do too much to get noticed on.

~Viola~

It amazes me how someone would type up paragraphs upon paragraphs without having basic knowledge of what they're talking about. The cabin crew have every right to detain you. In the first place, every single individual has a right to carry out a citizen's arrest when a crime is committed. Not to talk of an airplane which is subject to special rules.

YesDaddyTill203:
You people always accuse others of tribalaims while you are the champion in that regard. The only reason why you brough up Flavor is beaucse he's Igbo, is that not the case?
Again if Dangote or Otedola is wanted just like Oyenma is , and the govt refused to exradite him while exraditing others, you people will make it a nation anthem and sing about it on daily basis. But now it's irrelevant just because Oyenma is Igbo.
You guys are notjhing but blind Hypocrites.
What is your business with Oyenam? What is your business with this case? Is it not double satndard where Oyenma is allowed to wlak around freely while other Nigerians are exradited to the US for fraud? Is that not double standard?
How comae the bias Nigerian presss is quiet and the social media mob is also slilent on his case? WHY?

I am a Nigerian as at now, he is not wanted in Nigeria, if the U.S wanted him they would have extradited him, KWAM 1 committed an offense against my country, why shouldn't I be concerned ?

Let U.S handle what concerns them, my concern first is my country, I used Flavour as example because most of you supporting him are doing it because he is Yoruba.

Bullshit.
Both individuals violated aviation rules so they both liable for their actions