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| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 11:42am On Aug 11, 2025 |
emmasoft:Thanks for the input. Actually, I created that app just to have an idea of what to expect as I sometimes introduce it to people and they start asking questions and I need give them figures. That makes things much simpler as now, less people would call me asking for how much to earn on so so so amount even when I've given them formulas numerous times. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bfn1: 12:02pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
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| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 12:40pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Let me say this for those at the back. I’ve observed that when it comes to MMFs, there are generally two types of investors. The first believes rate fluctuations are normal and sticks with one fund no matter what, even if it falls below market average. The second reacts to significant dips, especially when returns drop below the market average, and moves their capital to sustain better yields. Both approaches actually have their merits, depending on whether you’re taking a short or long position. I fall into the second category for one reason : I’m a long-term investor working with significant capital, and I always invest with a goal in mind. My benchmarks are built around certain expected rates, and if a fund’s performance becomes too erratic, it throws off my long-term projections. For example, just a 1.5% lower rate sustained over 10 years on ₦100 million results in a loss of about ₦53.5m (using a conservative rate of 14 and 12.5 percent respectively). That’s not something I’m willing to ignore. Therefore if you’re investing short-term, rate variations should not matter much unless you’re deploying serious capital. But if you’re locking huge funds for atleast a decade or more, you definitely should be seeking optimal yields. Compounding works on three key variables: time, capital, and interest. If you’ve got the first two sufficiently but settle for less on the third, you’re simply shortchanging yourself. Just my two cents…. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by MicKaro: 1:46pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
ukingscorps:Do not invest in crypto please, that's a big money pit |
| Re: Mutual Funds by nickae: 2:19pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Amycanada:You can easily reset the secret QA and use the new one. I have done so a couple of times |
| Re: Mutual Funds by synoble(m): 5:12pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Neurotika:Wow, 53.5M or 5.35M... We'll need to be sure about the figures... |
| Re: Mutual Funds by A305: 6:08pm On Aug 11, 2025*. Modified: 8:23pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Neurotika:Like you rightly mentioned; two types of investors. Invertors 1 — plays the long game and doesn't react to dips and rates. Investors 2 — reacts to dips because they project for themselves a certain benchmark to earning hence moves elsewhere for better yield. You correct. however, my answer to this is, Investor 1 are the real Mutual Funds investors, these are real people or targeted audience that Mutual fund investment was invented for and love to cater to. Investors 2 — These are the business/profit oriented investors who don't have the appetite for HIGH RISK, they are scared to take high risk yet they love high yield but can't take risk. More like, they want to eat their cake and have it. Mutual funds Investor 2 are part of the people that drove up the share prices of Nigeria Stocks to all time high 2 weeks ago. The rally was massive. The Nigeria stocks all share index was massive last month. What happened was: as the capital market was loosing steam and yield dropping (Tbills, MMF etc), they sensed a bullish run, then began to withdraw their money from capital market to buy those stocks to make money. My prediction is: Watch out, the next MPC is in September. If CBN still hold MPR more people will leave the capital market and the very moment stocks begin to correct itself, and foreign investors begin to pull out (around Christmas), they will all rush back to come and join us to drag low yield in the capital market. Anothet thing is, There is usually inflation around December due to over spending and people sending money back home from abroad, let's see if MPR will be increased. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by blessedchild234(m): 6:28pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Neurotika:that means you're more on the cowrywise (FIntech) kind of investor? |
| Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 7:34pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
Fund managers and Fintechs Please, folks, don't let's compare fintech and fund managers. Fintechs are not fund managers; rather, they help to sell fund managers' products. The fintechs themselves are investors in money market funds and other instruments like Tbills. Money invested or saved with fintechs also ends up in the hands of fund managers and other financial institutions. Most times, fintechs make available platforms to get through to fund managers seamlessly and more conveniently. Similarly, Fund managers are not actually the institution that sells T-bills; it's the federal government that sells T-bills, but the fund managers help to sell government products - Tbills using their platforms. It will not be completely right to compare a fintech with a fund manager; their method of approach will also differ. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by FRANKLYex: 8:18pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
InvestNaija Market Watch: 11th of August 2025 Happy Monday, INsider! New week, fresh opportunities and the market wasted no time making moves. The ASI posted a modest gain, but the real fireworks were in insurance stocks, which once again led the charge. Let’s break it down. 💱 Currency The Naira traded between ₦1,500 and ₦1,540 per US dollar, closing weaker at ₦1,535.93 (-0.15%) according to the CBN. Nigeria’s gross external reserves ticked up 0.33% to $40.29bn (as of 8 August 2025). 📌 What this means: A slight currency dip offsets the boost in reserves, FX stability remains a balancing act. 📊 Equities The NGX ASI rose by 0.09% to 145,880.77 points, pushing YTD gains to 41.73%. Gains in MTNN, DANGCEM, and ZENITH helped the index stay green. Top traded by volume: LINKASSURE (703.59mn), UNIVINSURE (230.54mn), AIICO (154.73mn) Top traded by value: STANBIC (₦1.70tn), LINKASSURE (₦1.60tn), ZENITHBANK (₦1.20tn) Sector snapshot: Gainers: Insurance (+9.74%), Consumer Goods (+0.97%), Banking (+0.44%) Losers: Industrial (-1.47%), Oil & Gas (-0.56%) 🟢 Top gainers: AIICO (+10.00%), SUNUASSUR (+10.00%), STANBIC (+10.00%) 🔴 Top losers: ABBEYBDS (-10.00%), ABCTRANS (-10.00%), UACN (-9.99%) 📌 What this means: Investors continue to pour into insurance names, while industrial and oil & gas sectors face headwinds. 👀 Did You Know? The Insurance index’s +9.74% jump today is nearly double Friday’s rally, back-to-back strong sessions that could signal sustained investor momentum. 💵 Fixed Income OMO: Average benchmark yield fell 5bps to 25.46% as buyers dominated across all maturities. NTBs: Average yield slid 12bps to 16.59%, with notable demand for the Nov-25 (-37bps) bill. Bonds: Average benchmark yield rose 2bps to 16.30% as heavy selling hit Apr-37 (+52bps) and Jun-38 (+19bps). 📌 What this means: Short-term instruments are in demand, but longer-dated bonds saw profit-taking. 🏦 Money Market OPR eased 8bps to 26.42%, while O/N held at 27.00%. System liquidity tightened, with bank balances falling to ₦313.92bn from ₦750.31bn. 📌 What this means: Lower liquidity could push short-term borrowing costs higher later in the week, especially if demand for cash spikes ahead of mid-month settlements. 🌟 Mutual Fund Highlight – Chapel Hill Denham Paramount Fund (Equity) Closed at ₦50.49 as of 8 August 2025, with a YTD return of 65.82%. The fund’s performance reflects strong equity market momentum, especially in high-growth sectors like insurance and banking. 📌 What this means: Riding market rallies through an equity mutual fund can deliver impressive gains, remember capital is at risk. That’s your Monday market wrap, INsider. From insurance rallies to shifting bond yields, the week is already looking interesting. Let’s see where it goes. Stay INformed, The InvestNaija Team 📚 Glossary Corner: Today’s Market Terms, Simplified Mutual Fund: An investment that pools money from many investors to buy a diversified portfolio of securities. YTD (Year-to-Date): Measures how much an investment has gained or lost from the start of the year up to today. Liquidity: The amount of cash in the financial system, which affects interest rates. bps (Basis Points): A unit of measure in finance. 100bps = 1%. Used to describe rate changes. NAV (Net Asset Value): The price per unit of a mutual fund. It tells you how much each of your units is worth. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by A305: 8:46pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
FRANKLYex:Bros, you just copied ChatGPT and posted for us, Not everyone will understand this and you couldn't even bother to explain. Anyways in layman's language, the summary of what you posted is; people are picking Equities (stocks) over long term bonds. And as at today, the bullish equities are in the Insurance sector, it's worthy to note that the momentum is still ongoing, it also warns that if you run the type of mutual funds which the underlying asset is in equities, then congratulations but be conscious of when the momentum stops. Your capital could be at risk. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 8:53pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
synoble:The figures are correct. Calculate the future value of an 100m capital compounded quarterly at 14% for 10 years and another at 12.5%, then minus the difference. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 9:00pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
A305:lol. Well, all I’ll say is do what works for you. For me, I’m an alpha seeker…considering my stakes. Investment isn’t an emotional activity. Long term yield matters above everything. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 9:03pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
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| Re: Mutual Funds by FRANKLYex: 11:35pm On Aug 11, 2025 |
A305:Even with a clear heading that reads: "InvestNaija Market Watch: 11th of August 2025"; you still formed your opinion that it was from ChatGPT. Well, that is like a weekly investment update from Chapel Hill Denham who I maintain a fund with. I only shared because I felt it addressed the current happening and I never took credit for it. I could have removed the intro if I intend to do that ( at least I'm not dumb). Thanks for the summary anyway, I also found it interesting. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Jeoma2024: 12:36am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Something came to my mind and I said let me ask the group if it is really possible As an individual, doing business in Nigeria not working with any organisation or government Is it possible to get pension account Like open pension account with one of the pension companies and be contributing monthly If possible then I will need a guide on how to go about it What is the interest rate like? Does it really make sense? |
| Re: Mutual Funds by nickae: 7:49am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Jeoma2024:You can open a savings account with a pension fund administrator(PFA), the regular pension account is contributory, meaning the employer and employee contributes to it, and the employee can withdraw after meeting some conditions. But in your case as a single individual, u cannot open a contributory pension account but like I said, they, the PFA should have a product that suits you, so you can approach them to ask. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by FRANKLYex: 7:51am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Jeoma2024:Yes, very possible. Just be making voluntary contributions at your pace. Just get in touch with any PFA of your choice, they will be glad help |
| Re: Mutual Funds by brainhack(m): 8:26am On Aug 12, 2025*. Modified: 8:44am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Jeoma2024:With the volume of funds at their disposal they are grossly underperforming in my own opinion. Regardless I also do pension voluntary contributions, solely for investment diversification. https://www.pencom.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/RATES-OF-RETURN-DATA-2016-TO-2019-RSAs.pdf
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| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 9:54am On Aug 12, 2025 |
brainhack:The conventional pension system is basically a government-backed scam. I’ve always said this. Giving ridiculous rates on a fund meant to last 30+ years makes no sense, especially in a country with galloping inflation. Imagine working for 35 years then one govt just wakes up and prints 40% of the total money supply, inflating away 30 years of your work. By retirement, your savings will be worth nothing less than a tissue paper. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by brainhack(m): 10:08am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Neurotika:I doubt there is any year, any PFA’ annual return beats inflation. Imagine year after year receiving rates on your retirement fund, that doesn’t beat inflation. Smh ********************************* Ps: just to be sure I asked ChatGPT to confirm
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| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 10:26am On Aug 12, 2025 |
brainhack:It’s actually a serious issue. Although it’s hard to see a fund that easily beats our current inflation figures, but at least the returns should keep pace with it. The real loss should be minimal. I once thought about writing a thesis on this during my postgraduate years, but it felt pointless….it’s an obvious issue. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Jeoma2024: 10:32am On Aug 12, 2025 |
brainhack:Thanks for your contribution The image is too dark, I could barely see the write ups |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Jeoma2024: 10:35am On Aug 12, 2025 |
FRANKLYex:do you have ideas if the interest rate is up to that of MMF |
| Re: Mutual Funds by FRANKLYex: 11:31am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Jeoma2024:As it has been discussed above, please read again. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by monikulapo: 11:52am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Neurotika:Honestly, from casual observations.. I feel the bulk of the mutual funds industry is as well. Even though two truths can coexists no one was willing to explore that conversation. Returns are guaranteed .. awesome. However, something seems off about the transparency of investments.. I was hoping someone (perhaps an accountant) would point out ways these things can be publicly tracked. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by FRANKLYex: 12:15pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
monikulapo:This is a discussion everyone is avoiding. We have seen how cowrywise is doing their reporting. What is so difficult for other fund manager to have such platform? |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 12:57pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
monikulapo:Well, I’ve pointed this out here before. It’s a billion dollar industry with a sneaky way of doing things. Nigeria’s common practice of showing only YTD without multi-period annualized returns does not even align with global disclosure requirements. At the end of the day, it’s a regulation issue. Where is there is no law, there is no crime. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by alexokeke325: 1:07pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
Pls I need answers , I transfered money from my wallet to my mmf account since 3:am today and till now it have not appeared in my mmf acc |
| Re: Mutual Funds by alexokeke325: 1:12pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
Pls money I sent through my wallet to my mmf acc since 3:am have not appeared on my mmf acc, am worried it's my first time, hw long does it's take to appear. Help pls |
| Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 1:31pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
alexokeke325:You don't need to worry. By COB today, it will appear and by tomorrow you will see the interest for today. Let's remember once again, MMF is not handled the way MDB handles cash. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 1:45pm On Aug 12, 2025 |
Jeoma2024:Why not open an MMF instead and call it your personal pension scheme, because the PFA themselves put your money in Tbills and sometimes MMF. Invest your money in MMF and pick reinvest interest as an option, and top up each time you have funds to invest. Read my earlier post on this thread - How investors put MMF to work for a guide. I'm sure MMF will have better returns compared to the pension scheme. |
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