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Boomark:
This is what you should be talking about.

In the screenshot, I was talking about remaining in Jesus teachings and you came from no where and brought he who has seen me has seen the Father. As opposition or what?

So answer the question. I will also touch the part where the spirit of the antichrist led you mocked God. I am waiting... Remember to focus on the teaching of Christ. If you like act as if you don't understand english. I will not overlook such ignorance.

So, you expect me to be talking about remaining in Jesus' teaching instead of addressing what you called Jesus' teaching which was indeed contrary to Jesus' teaching?

Jesus said 'No one has seen the Father' . Did He say, 'No one can see the Father'? Jesus' mission was to reveal the Father whom no one has seen. You didn't understand all the explanations I gave you previously? Was it too long for you to read? I took my time and explained. Are you making Jesus a failure and a liar? Here are Jesus' Words:

"All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him" (Matthew 11:27, Luke 10:22).

Did the Son reveal the Father? Absolutely YES!

He told Philip "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father'. Simple!

Or, you don't have eternal life?

"This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17:3.

Knowing Jesus is knowing the Father. You cannot separate them. They're one.

So, you left all my long exegesis I gave on my previous mention to keep pushing your Antichrist and satanic narratives? Your 'No one has seen the Father' falsehood? Continue pushing these lies. You're liar if you propagate one part of Christ's Word to establish a doctrine instead of His Whole Words. Whole Words of Jesus is what we call Sound Doctrine.

Constantly leaving the part of the scriptures that say boldly:

...BUT THE SON WHO HIMSELF IS ALSO GOD, HE HAS REVEALED HIM.

HE HAS REVEALED HIM

HE HAS REVEALED HIM.

Bookmark, HE HAS REVEALED HIM

After Jesus has revealed Him, only the Blind would still say "No one has seen the Father "

John 1:18

Before Jesus came, no one has seen the Father. But Jesus has revealed Him boomark! Jesus came to reveal Him. That's why He said "That they may know you, the only true God ..."

How can you know someone who was not revealed? And how can someone be revealed without him being known?

"Have you not known me Boomark? Anyone who has seen me has [/b]SEEN[/b] the Father. John 14:9

So, stop lying that no one has seen the Father because ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN ME FATHER.

Or

You do not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?

Jesus said no one has seen the Father. He didn't say 'No one can see the Father Did He say, no one can see the Father? Tell me!

No one had seen the Father, so Jesus came to reveal Him - John 1:18. And now, those who have seen Jesus have seen the Father because Jesus is not separate from the Father.

Jesus revealed the Father by saying 'Whoever has seen me has seen the Father' - John 14:9.

Do you even read to understand or you simply read to abuse? Are you sure you're a Christian?

Boomark:
Don't you see that you have a very big problem. You are calling me a joker as if I am the one you asked that question. The spirit of lie and deceit is at work in you.

Use all the scriptures in your stack and answer the question I asked you on the teaching of Jesus Christ.

I will not overlook any single mistakes which includes not understanding english. Later you letters that keel and spirit that gives life.

I have asked you questions you refused to answer. The questions were not for Janosky alone. Is janosky the only one claiming God is not a Trinity on this thread? That question is for everyone of you, Boomark. A question for one is a question for all!

I challenged you to take a screenshot of ChatGPT's original Greek rendering of John 1:18, where is it?

You don't know the Scriptures but you know how to abuse people. If course, those who don't know scriptures always know how to abuse. They have unstable emotions and cannot discuss anything respectfully.

Now, answer the questions and face the challenge. I'll even create a thread soon as you are both afraid to create a thread and invite me as I asked you to a few days ago.

This is interesting, so who now won?

FxMasterz:
So, you expect me to be talking about remaining in Jesus' teaching instead of addressing what you called Jesus' teaching which was indeed contrary to Jesus' teaching?

Jesus said 'No one has seen the Father' . Did He say, 'No one can see the Father'? Jesus' mission was to reveal the Father whom no one has seen. You didn't understand all the explanations I gave you previously? Was it too long for you to read? I took my time and explained. Are you making Jesus a failure and a liar? Here are Jesus' Words:

"All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him" (Matthew 11:27, Luke 10:22).

Did the Son reveal the Father? Absolutely YES!

He told Philip "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father'. Simple!

Or, you don't have eternal life?

"This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17:3.

Knowing Jesus is knowing the Father. You cannot separate them. They're one.

So, you left all my long exegesis I gave on my previous mention to keep pushing your Antichrist and satanic narratives? Your 'No one has seen the Father' falsehood? Continue pushing these lies. You're liar if you propagate one part of Christ's Word to establish a doctrine instead of His Whole Words. Whole Words of Jesus is what we call Sound Doctrine.

Constantly leaving the part of the scriptures that say boldly:

...BUT THE SON WHO HIMSELF IS ALSO GOD, HE HAS REVEALED HIM.

HE HAS REVEALED HIM

HE HAS REVEALED HIM.

Bookmark, HE HAS REVEALED HIM

After Jesus has revealed Him, only the Blind would still say "No one has seen the Father "

John 1:18

Before Jesus came, no one has seen the Father. But Jesus has revealed Him boomark! Jesus came to reveal Him. That's why He said "That they may know you, the only true God ..."

How can you know someone who was not revealed? And how can someone be revealed without him being known?

"Have you not known me Boomark? Anyone who has seen me has [/b]SEEN[/b] the Father. John 14:9

So, stop lying that no one has seen the Father because ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN ME FATHER.

Or

You do not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?

Jesus said no one has seen the Father. He didn't say 'No one can see the Father Did He say, no one can see the Father? Tell me!

No one had seen the Father, so Jesus came to reveal Him - John 1:18. And now, those who have seen Jesus have seen the Father because Jesus is not separate from the Father.

Jesus revealed the Father by saying 'Whoever has seen me has seen the Father' - John 14:9.

Do you even read to understand or you simply read to abuse? Are you sure you're a Christian?

I told you to hit your point straight. I am not the one to be deceived by long empty talk. Too many lies hidden in long words. More words more mistakes. I see them all clearly.

Let me now show how you are similar to satan in quoting scripture.

1. You started by twist what Jesus said that "no one has seen God" to mean he didn't say "no one can see God." We all know that Jesus and Angels CAN see God. So focus on what Jesus said to the people listening to him and stop making him a liar.

2. You twisted "to reveal" and "to make known" to mean "Seeing God." So if I make people to know God it means they have seen God and I am God? If I reveal Jesus to those who are perishing for them to receive Christ, then it means that I am Jesus and they have seen Jesus? Making someone known is not equal to seeing the person. This is Satan's pattern.

3. Your stand contradicts what Jesus said and also what John who was with him when he said "he who has seen me has seen the Father". JOHN CLEARLY SAID "NO MAN HAS "EVER" SEEN GOD." He was a direct witness when Jesus said what he said in John 14:8-9.

So John and the scripture has proven that all your long exegesis and essays are falsehood and that you don't know what you are talking about. I have not even shown the ones written by Paul.


1 John 4:12 RSV
[12] No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.

John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

So you still have work to do. Your problem has been compounded.

You must prove to us that both Jesus and John who was a witness when Jesus made that statement don't know what they are talking about.

Bring all the scriptures in your stack and do it, not with twisted words. Make sure you go straight to the point because I will fish out twisted words hidden in long comments.

Whenever you are tired, you can then ask me to tell you what Jesus meant in John 14:8-9 that does not contradict the scripture.

Julia25:
This is interesting, so who now won?

Check the link to results in the op. But most importantly read the through each subtopic, their claim and rebuttal.

Boomark:
Check the link to results in the op. But most importantly read the through each subtopic, their claim and rebuttal.

No link in the Opening post?

FxMasterz:
I have asked you questions you refused to answer. The questions were not for Janosky alone. Is janosky the only one claiming God is not a Trinity on this thread? That question is for everyone of you, Boomark. A question for one is a question for all!

I challenged you to take a screenshot of ChatGPT's original Greek rendering of John 1:18, where is it?

You don't know the Scriptures but you know how to abuse people. If course, those who don't know scriptures always know how to abuse. They have unstable emotions and cannot discuss anything respectfully.

Now, answer the questions and face the challenge. I'll even create a thread soon as you are both afraid to create a thread and invite me as I asked you to a few days ago.

Let everyone answer your question. I am not everyone. Whenever you are ready ask me the question. I was supposed to delete those things you people post on the main challenge thread but I left it because I was on focusing on mentions and didn't see it on time.

So this is the screenshot you asked for. What do you want to ask or have I destroyed it in my previous post?

Julia25:
No link in the Opening post?

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123#136283738

Towards the end of the op you see them.

FxMasterz:
I have asked you questions you refused to answer. The questions were not for Janosky alone. Is janosky the only one claiming God is not a Trinity on this thread? That question is for everyone of you, Boomark. A question for one is a question for all!

I challenged you to take a screenshot of ChatGPT's original Greek rendering of John 1:18, where is it?

You don't know the Scriptures but you know how to abuse people. If course, those who don't know scriptures always know how to abuse. They have unstable emotions and cannot discuss anything respectfully.

Now, answer the questions and face the challenge. I'll even create a thread soon as you are both afraid to create a thread and invite me as I asked you to a few days ago.

What did I say to you when you told me about creating a thread? A pastor that enjoys twisting people's words.

Lyinq.... Is it the actual word if not for the bot.

Boomark:
What did I say to you when you told me about creating a thread? A pastor that enjoys twisting people's words.

Lyinq.... Is it the actual word if not for the bot.

Ha!

I leave that to you and God. You never read that I said you could create a thread so I can discuss with you using unconventional scriptures? May God judge between me and you!

FxMasterz:
Ha!

I leave that to you and God. You never read that I said you could create a thread so I can discuss with you using unconventional scriptures? May God judge between me and you!

You said I was afraid to create a thread. That is a lie based on our previous discussion. You only said so that people will think I'm afraid of you when they never saw what we discussed before

Is it not?

Boomark:
Let everyone answer your question. I am not everyone. Whenever you are ready ask me the question. I was supposed to delete those things you people post on the main challenge thread but I left it because I was on focusing on mentions and didn't see it on time.

So this is the screenshot you asked for. What do you want to ask or have I destroyed it in my previous post?

Unfortunately, your definition of everyone is contrary to the dictionary meaning of it. By saying you are not everyone when you were specifically mentioned, the same way you mentioned me on your thread, you are being hypocritical. I responded to Janosky and mentioned you. Janosky referred me to you saying you will answer me. You again refereed me back to Janosky. Your alibi already failed.

Now, regarding the screenshot, can you see that ChatGPT interpreted that the only begotten God/Son has revealed Him? Now, tell it to give you the Greek and translations from only the most reliable and strongest manuscripts. Instead of using God/Son, it would use only one.

Julia25:
No link in the Opening post?

Hello Julia please ask your questions here not in that place. We will open that place for discussion when we are through.

Final winner of each round gets +10 points. Anyone talking out of point gets -5, while the opponent gets+5. We have done 8 rounds already. ChatGPT does the analysis and judgement. The final winner is seen in each video.


I still have one more claim to make and that will uproot trinity from the taproot.

FxMasterz:
Unfortunately, your definition of everyone is contrary to the dictionary meaning of it. By saying you are not everyone when you were specifically mentioned, the same way you mentioned me on your thread, you are being hypocritical. I responded to Janosky and mentioned you. Janosky referred me to you saying you will answer me. You again refereed me back to Janosky. Your alibi already failed.

Now, regarding the screenshot, can you see that ChatGPT interpreted that the only begotten God/Son has revealed Him? Now, tell it to give you the Greek and translations from only the most reliable and strongest manuscripts. Instead of using God/Son, it would use only one.

Normally I am not supposed to reply you in that challenge thread because it is against the the rule for you and Janosky to post there. What I should have done was to remove everything thing. This place is meant for discussion.

There was no where in my screenshot where it says "reveal". It says explain/ make him known. And these are are still inline with revealing him.

But please say things as they are. I will do what you asked for and post screenshot.

Boomark:
I told you to hit your point straight. I am not the one to be deceived by long empty talk. Too many lies hidden in long words. More words more mistakes. I see them all clearly.

So, those various versions of scripture I quoted are long and empty? Who mocks the Word of God that Boomark?

Let me now show how you are similar to satan in quoting scripture.

You can show me how similar you are to satan in quoting scripture and I will show you the true Word of God.

1. You started by twist what Jesus said that "no one has seen God" to mean he didn't say "no one can see God." We all know that Jesus and Angels CAN see God. So focus on what Jesus said to the people listening to him and stop making him a liar.

So, that Jesus has revealed God and the whoever has seen Jesus have seen God are not the Words of Jesus? Tell me it was satan saying that or satn was talking through Jesus when He said "anyone who sees me have seen the Father"? Answer me!

2. You twisted "to reveal" and "to make known" to mean "Seeing God." So if I make people to know God it means they have seen God and I am God? If I reveal Jesus to those who are perishing for them to receive Christ, then it means that I am Jesus and they have seen Jesus? Making someone known is not equal to seeing the person. This is Satan's pattern.

No, Jesus specifically said "Anyone who SEES Him have SEEN the Father. That was twisted too? Which other Father do you want anyone to see? Did you read what Jesus said to Philip? Jesus said "Why are you still asking me to show you the Father? Don't you know that anyone who has SEEN Me has SEEN the Father?' (Paraphrased). Go and read John 14 again. If we quote it here now, you will say the Word of God quoted is long and empty. Is the word 'SEEN' twisted too?

3. Your stand contradicts what Jesus said and also what John who was with him when he said "he who has seen me has seen the Father". JOHN CLEARLY SAID "NO MAN HAS "EVER" SEEN GOD." He was a direct witness when Jesus said what he said in John 14:8-9.

No man has seen (Past Tense) God. Simple English o. But you have twisted the Word of God to say 'No man CAN SEE God.' I don't know maybe you also have "No man WILL See God" in your head. Before Jesus came, no man has seen God, but the only begotten Son has REVEALED Him. How did He reveal Him. Whoever has SEEN JESUS has SEEN the Father." SEEN, SEEN The Father.

So John and the scripture has proven that all your long exegesis and essays are falsehood and that you don't know what you are talking about. I have not even shown the ones written by Paul.

John and the whole of Scripture have proven that all your loud talks are falsehoods and you don't even know what you're talking about. Jesus said whoever has seen Jesus has seen the Father but boomark says Jesus is lying.

1 John 4:12 RSV
[12] No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like


John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father


So you still have work to do. Your problem has been compounded.

You must prove to us that both Jesus and John who was a witness when Jesus made that statement don't know what they are talking about.

Bring all the scriptures in your stack and do it, not with twisted words. Make sure you go straight to the point because I will fish out twisted words hidden in long comments.

Whenever you are tired, you can then ask me to tell you what Jesus meant in John 14:8-9 that does not contradict the scripture.

You guys who take half the Word of God and neglect the other things said are the greatest tools in the hands of satan. This is what Jesus said, I just hope you will not call it long empty words:

John 14:7 -
"If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. [b]From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Now, make of Christ's Word what you will. These are not my own words but Christ's.

Question
If Boomark should ask Jesus to show him the Father today, will He answer him in any way different to the way He answered Philip?

See them some of the screenshot because it is long. Check if they have what you are looking for.

Boomark:
Normally I am not supposed to reply you in that challenge thread because it is against the the rule for you and Janosky to post there. What I should have done was to remove everything thing. This place is meant for discussion.

But you were the one who mentioned me there, or was it Janosky? I was waiting for you to finish with Image123, I did not post on your thread for that reason.

There was no where in my screenshot where it says "reveal". It says explain/ make him known. And these are are still inline with revealing him.

I did not refer to anything such as 'reveal' in your screenshots.

But please say things as they are. I will do what you asked for and post screenshot.

Best advice for you my brother. You did not post the screenshot I asked. You did something else entirely.

I said you should ask ChatGPT to quote John 1:18 from the strongest and most reliable Greek manuscripts only, and translate it to English.

That is what I said, I never said you should ask ChatGPT about 'reveal'. That is your own idea.

FxMasterz:
So, those various versions of scripture I quoted are long and empty? Who mocks the Word of God that Boomark?

You quote one scripture and design it with long, empty, contradictory lies.

You can show me how similar you are to satan in quoting scripture and I will show you the true Word of God.


So, that Jesus has revealed God and the whoever has seen Jesus have seen God are not the Words of Jesus? Tell me it was satan saying that or satn was talking through Jesus when He said "anyone who sees me have seen the Father"? Answer me!

You should also tell me if it satan that said this.

John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father

Answer me

No, Jesus specifically said "Anyone who SEES Him have SEEN the Father. That was twisted too? Which other Father do you want anyone to see? Did you read what Jesus said to Philip? Jesus said "Why are you still asking me to show you the Father? Don't you know that anyone who has SEEN Me has SEEN the Father?' (Paraphrased). Go and read John 14 again. If we quote it here now, you will say the Word of God quoted is long and empty. Is the word 'SEEN' twisted too?

Your understanding of what Jesus said contradicts other scriptures including the things Jesus said himself. That is a bad understanding centred on just one verse. You must prove that other scriptures are not contradictory.

No man has seen (Past Tense) God. Simple English o. But you have twisted the Word of God to say no man CAN SEE God.' I don't know maybe you also have "No man WILL See God" in your head. Before Jesus came, no man has seen God, but the only begotten Son has REVEALED Him. How did He reveal Him. Whoever has SEEN JESUS has SEEN the Father." SEEN, SEEN The Father.

Screenshot:
From the screenshot, I want everyone to see what I said in capital letter which I marked with orange colour, "THAT NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN GOD". And see how he lied against me in the blue colour, saying that I said "NO MAN CAN SEE GOD. It is obviouse that this fake pastor is seeking promotion from satan and the antichrist.

When I said Trinitarians lie a lot I knew what I was saying. It is from satan. You will not escape being like your father and coach.

John wrote that thing long after Jesus resurrection and he is telling us it is past tense.

John and the whole of Scripture have proven that all your loud talks are falsehoods and you don't even know what you're talking about. Jesus said whoever has seen Jesus has seen the Father but boomark says Jesus is lying.

Jesus has no business with your poor understanding. Or probably you are working for the antichrist and their father.

You guys who take half the Word of God and neglect the other things said are the greatest tools in the hands of satan. This is what Jesus said, I just hope you will not call it long empty words:

John 14:7 -
"If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. [b]From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Now, make of Christ's Word what you will. These are not my own words but Christ's.

Question
If Boomark should ask Jesus to show him the Father today, will He answer him in any way different to the way He answered Philip?

You have only 1 scripture. I have 7 solid scriptures. Paul saw Jesus but he still address the Father as invisible God. So tell us if all these scriptures are telling lies.

1 John 4:12 RSV
[12] No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.


John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

John 1:18 LSB
[18] No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

1 Timothy 1:17 LSB
[17] Now to the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6:16 LSB
[16] who alone has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal might! Amen.

Colossians 1:15 NIV
[15] The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.


Paul saw Jesus

1 Corinthians 9:1 NIV
[1] Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?

1 Corinthians 15:7-8 NIV
[7] Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, [8] and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.


You must prove that these scripture are not falsehood.

FxMasterz:
But you were the one who mentioned me there, or was it Janosky? I was waiting for you to finish with Image123, I did not post on your thread for that reason.


I did not refer to anything such as 'reveal' in your screenshots.


Best advice for you my brother. You did not post the screenshot I asked. You did something else entirely.

I said you should ask ChatGPT to quote John 1:18 from the strongest and most reliable Greek manuscripts only, and translate it to English.

That is what I said, I never said you should ask ChatGPT about 'reveal'. That is your own idea.

John 8:2, 44 NIV
[2] At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
[44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

See your your father here. The screenshot and the bolded proved it. During temptation in Matthew 4,satan has fear of God but you, you don't have any atom of fear of God in you.

You mentioned reveal. Something that was never there. Now you are denying it.

Boomark:
John 8:2, 44 NIV
[2] At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
[44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

See your your father here. The screenshot and the bolded proved it. During temptation in Matthew 4,satan has fear of God but you, you don't have any atom of fear of God in you.

You mentioned reveal. Something that was never there. Now you are denying it.

Obviously, you are very weak on English Comprehension. I'm the one who should call you a liar and the son of your father the murderer. Since you are so uneducated that you cannot be civil in conversations.

Where in that your screenshot did I point out that 'reveal' was the word to look for in ChatGPT? Just be sure 'reveal' appeared in a sentence?

With this rate I see you lacking understanding of basic English conversations, you.will.be a serious mess in understanding scriptures.

Here's the screenshot again. See what I underlined in green, and learn how to spot cogent points in entire conversations.

Boomark:
You quote one scripture and design it with long, empty, contradictory lies.

When would you stop lying, Boomark? I quoted one scripture and provided several versions of that scripture, is that a lie?

You should also tell me if it satan that said this.

John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father

Answer me

Lack of English comprehension again.

If I say, no one has seen Boomark on Nairaland, does that mean no Nairalabder can see boomark?

How many times do I have to explain to you that before Jesus came, no one had seen the Father, but He revealed Him before He left as shown in the scriptures.

Now, let's apply common sense.

1. Statement 1:

No.one has seen the Father.

2. Statement 2.

The Song has revealed Him.

3. Statement 3
Whoever has seen Jesus as Seen the Father.

Now, draw your inference from all 3 statements.

Even a 4 year old child will tell you that, at first no one had seen the Father but the Father was eventually seen through the Revelation of Jesus Himself.

A list is someone who takes half of what Jesus said instead of the whole.

Your understanding of what Jesus said contradicts other scriptures including the things Jesus said himself. That is a bad understanding centred on just one verse. You must prove that other scriptures are not contradictory.

It's your understanding that is contrardictory. Unbalanced interpretation of Scripture as I've shown above. Your interpretation is to take half words of Jesus and neglect the rest because you don't want to believe the whole truth.

Screenshot:
From the screenshot, I want everyone to see what I said in capital letter which I marked with orange colour, "THAT NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN GOD". And see how he lied against me in the blue colour, saying that I said "NO MAN CAN SEE GOD. It is obviouse that this fake pastor is seeking promotion from satan and the antichrist.

Obviously, you're a fake Christian. A son of the devil to tell such blatant lies with gusto.

As the screenshot has shown.

I maintained you said no one has ever seen God. I.posited that, Jesus didn't say, no man can see God but that is what your position implies, and that you probably have 'no man will see God in your head."

I don't like dealing with people who are poor in English comprehension. I.want more intelligent discussions. Not this brickering here and there.

Now, since you said you never said "No man can see God." Do you now believe that God was seen through Jesus?


No.man has physically seen God but we have seen God through Jesus.

When I said Trinitarians lie a lot I knew what I was saying. It is from satan. You will not escape being like your father and coach.

You've been exposed on this platform as a big liar. Image123, Gabrienshow24, Emusan and the rest of Nairaland readers can already testify.

John wrote that thing long after Jesus resurrection and he is telling us it is past tense.

Quoting John halfway again, isn't it? Half Bible Christian!

1 John 4:12

“No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.”

Why does God abide in us?

"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God[color=#000099][/color]. and eternal life.”

Jesus has no business with your poor understanding. Or probably you are working for the antichrist and their father.

You have only 1 scripture. I have 7 solid scriptures. Paul saw Jesus but he still address the Father as invisible God. So tell us if all these scriptures are telling lies.

Very childish talks. It's unprofitable to discuss scriptures with you. It's better I avoid you and talk with more intelligent people who would like to embrace the truth. I'll create a thread instead. I think I Already have enough of you. You ended up doing the exact thing for which I said I do not want to be arguing scriptures. You even tell lies without conscience.

1 John 4:12 RSV
[12] No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.


John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

John 1:18 LSB
[18] No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

So, you looked the other way when you saw THE ONLY BEGOTTEN GOD in the scripture you quoted?

1 Timothy 1:17 LSB
[17] Now to the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6:16 LSB
[16] who alone has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal might! Amen.

Colossians 1:15 NIV
[15] The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.


Paul saw Jesus

1 Corinthians 9:1 NIV
[1] Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?

1 Corinthians 15:7-8 NIV
[7] Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, [8] and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.


You must prove that these scripture are not falsehood.

Ignorance is not bliss.

From the above scriptures, I can deduce these things about you:

1. You have not seen God. You don't know God because you don't know Jesus. Since you're unable to see God through Jesus. Then, you.obviosly don't know Jesus. Hence, you're not a Christian.

2. You.habe never heard the voice of God. You are teaching yourself the Bible. God is not teaching you. You're not worth listening to.

Boomark:
You quote one scripture and design it with long, empty, contradictory lies.




You should also tell me if it satan that said this.

John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father

Answer me



Your understanding of what Jesus said contradicts other scriptures including the things Jesus said himself. That is a bad understanding centred on just one verse. You must prove that other scriptures are not contradictory.




Screenshot:
From the screenshot, I want everyone to see what I said in capital letter which I marked with orange colour, "THAT NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN GOD". And see how he lied against me in the blue colour, saying that I said "NO MAN CAN SEE GOD. It is obviouse that this fake pastor is seeking promotion from satan and the antichrist.

When I said Trinitarians lie a lot I knew what I was saying. It is from satan. You will not escape being like your father and coach.

John wrote that thing long after Jesus resurrection and he is telling us it is past tense.




Jesus has no business with your poor understanding. Or probably you are working for the antichrist and their father.





You have only 1 scripture. I have 7 solid scriptures. Paul saw Jesus but he still address the Father as invisible God. So tell us if all these scriptures are telling lies.

1 John 4:12 RSV
[12] No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.


John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

John 1:18 LSB
[18] No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

1 Timothy 1:17 LSB
[17] Now to the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6:16 LSB
[16] who alone has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal might! Amen.

Colossians 1:15 NIV
[15] The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.


Paul saw Jesus

1 Corinthians 9:1 NIV
[1] Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?

1 Corinthians 15:7-8 NIV
[7] Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, [8] and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.


You must prove that these scripture are not falsehood.

Whoever has seen Jesus has seen God. That's what Jesus said. Jesus is God made manifest in the Flesh. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the God who is spirit. Men have not seen God because God is Spirit. But Jesus has revealed Him through His own manifestation.

The bottomline of the whole discussion is to let you see that Jesus is a representation of the Father.

If Jesus says, whoever has seen Him has seen the Father, who are you to say whoever sees Jesus have not seen the Father?

Boomark:
John 8:2, 44 NIV
[2] At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
[44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

See your your father here. The screenshot and the bolded proved it. During temptation in Matthew 4,satan has fear of God but you, you don't have any atom of fear of God in you.

You mentioned reveal. Something that was never there. Now you are denying it.

Was it 'reveal' I said you check on ChatGPT ? Point out in the screenshot how I said you should check reveal or stop mentioning me. I underlined with green the words I wanted you to check in screenshot telling you that the original Greek will give you one of God/Son in it's translation of who revealed God.

Please if falsehood is your domain, desist from any further mention me. I don't have time for such useless things.

it is obvious to every thinking person that the ChatGPT challenge was the God/Son appearance in the verse!

There are many other words in my mention, why did you pick reveal and not the others? Please stop me me henceforth. I hate falsehood!

Common sense would let anyo6know that I did not create a separate post to to discuss reveal with you!

A separate and dedicated post that only said 'Boomarl, ask ChatGPT to give you the original Greek of John 1:18 ' is all about 'reveal'. Common sense now. And apart from common sense, the sentence underlined in green below shows the cogent point of the challenge.

Stop mentioning me please!

FxMasterz:
When would you stop lying, Boomark? I quoted one scripture and provided several versions of that scripture, is that a lie?



Lack of English comprehension again.

If I say, no one has seen Boomark on Nairaland, does that mean no Nairalabder can see boomark?

How many times do I have to explain to you that before Jesus came, no one had seen the Father, but He revealed Him before He left as shown in the scriptures.

Now, let's apply common sense.

1. Statement 1:

No.one has seen the Father.

2. Statement 2.

The Song has revealed Him.

3. Statement 3
Whoever has seen Jesus as Seen the Father.

Now, draw your inference from all 3 statements.

Even a 4 year old child will tell you that, at first no one had seen the Father but the Father was eventually seen through the Revelation of Jesus Himself.

A list is someone who takes half of what Jesus said instead of the whole.


It's your understanding that is contrardictory. Unbalanced interpretation of Scripture as I've shown above. Your interpretation is to take half words of Jesus and neglect the rest because you don't want to believe the whole truth.



Obviously, you're a fake Christian. A son of the devil to tell such blatant lies with gusto.

As the screenshot has shown.

I maintained you said no one has ever seen God. I.posited that, Jesus didn't say, no man can see God but that is what your position implies, and that you probably have 'no man will see God in your head."

I don't like dealing with people who are poor in English comprehension. I.want more intelligent discussions. Not this brickering here and there.

Now, since you said you never said "No man can see God." Do you now believe that God was seen through Jesus?


No.man has physically seen God but we have seen God through Jesus.


You've been exposed on this platform as a big liar. Image123, Gabrienshow24, Emusan and the rest of Nairaland readers can already testify.



Quoting John halfway again, isn't it? Half Bible Christian!

1 John 4:12

“No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.”

Why does God abide in us?

"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God[color=#000099][/color]. and eternal life.”



Very childish talks. It's unprofitable to discuss scriptures with you. It's better I avoid you and talk with more intelligent people who would like to embrace the truth. I'll create a thread instead. I think I Already have enough of you. You ended up doing the exact thing for which I said I do not want to be arguing scriptures. You even tell lies without conscience.




So, you looked the other way when you saw THE ONLY BEGOTTEN GOD in the scripture you quoted?



Ignorance is not bliss.

From the above scriptures, I can deduce these things about you:

1. You have not seen God. You don't know God because you don't know Jesus. Since you're unable to see God through Jesus. Then, you.obviosly don't know Jesus. Hence, you're not a Christian.

2. You.habe never heard the voice of God. You are teaching yourself the Bible. God is not teaching you. You're not worth listening to.

Well said brother. i wonder if Boomark is deliberately deceiving himself by manually scoring himself. One would imagine that he'll make AI do it.But that'll probably expose how many times he had to reprompt.

FxMasterz:
Whoever has seen Jesus has seen God. That's what Jesus said. Jesus is God made manifest in the Flesh. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the God who is spirit. Men have not seen God because God is Spirit. But Jesus has revealed Him through His own manifestation.

The bottomline of the whole discussion is to let you see that Jesus is a representation of the Father.

If Jesus says, whoever has seen Him has seen the Father, who are you to say whoever sees Jesus have not seen the Father?

The bottomline is that both Jesus, John and Paul said no man has seen the Father. 3 testimonies, 7 scriptures against your misunderstanding. Both John (a star witness) and Paul said it after the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Call me anytime you prove them wrong.

Case closed.

Meanwhile see your screenshot here

It said, the only-begotten God. The "only one" doesn't mean he is the Father. Nobody is using I and my Father are one to twist scripture anymore since exposed their falsehood.

By the way case closed.

Image123:
Well said brother. i wonder if Boomark is deliberately deceiving himself by manually scoring himself. One would imagine that he'll make AI do it.But that'll probably expose how many times he had to reprompt.

No, you can also say that I manufacture ChatGPT.

Image123:
Well said brother. i wonder if Boomark is deliberately deceiving himself by manually scoring himself. One would imagine that he'll make AI do it.But that'll probably expose how many times he had to reprompt.

The guy's not a Christian. I'll stop engaging him. I even found he uses AI to interpret scripture. I saw a screenshot in which an AI was explaining a verse to him. Hilarious.

He doesn't depend on the Holy Spirit, so, there's nothing to discuss with such people. Then, he's never civil and does not apologize for his errors. He'll accuse you of lying when he's the one lying, and he'll still quote scriptures to condemn you for the lies you didn't tell. And when you show him he was the one who lied or misunderstood, no apology. Also, his propensity to misunderstand, misrepresent, stray off course and misjudge is very high. You will have to constantly be correcting him about what you said versus what he thought you said. Discussions like that will become boring especially when he would have called you names before you are able to show him he misunderstood.

That's not someone worthy of intelligent conversations. You have tried, my brother. I do not want to waste my time discussing scriptures with someone like that. I will no longer respond to his mentions.

However, I'll create a thread on this topic very soon and mention you on the topic.

God bless you brother and God bless Boomark too.