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gohf:
Now think about a comic artist, or a manga/manhua for those into asian sketched stories. Now if artist who is the creator of those characters in sketched up world, decides to draw a character and name that character after himself or call it, his image having a power to erase or rule in his sketched up world.

The first question is, is this image, this character given such power and authority to erase, created? Yes it is, yes he/she, the character is created.

Second question, is that character the creator, the comic artist? The answer is No


The question then is, even though without a doubt (personally) Jesus is the image of God why do some call him God, even when the creator and author did not call him or tell others to call him God?

Gabrielshow24:
A bad and faulty analogy 🤨. Jesus is not a created being, he existed with the Father from the beginning. He was God's companion!

If indeed according to you, Jesus was created then you imply God foolish since Jesus is termed the wisdom of God!🤔

Now if God is foolish how then did he get wise to the extent to create something? And even if he did create something, how did he know it was good? 🤨 Now you have another dilemma.

Let's use this same narrative with the expression 'word of God'. How did your God learn to speak? If he possessed it from his beginning 👀 then it's an inherent quality hence since God has no beginning, this quality had been with him!

The council of Nicaea was not filled with dullards neither with those that use cheap analogy to sell false scripts!

sonmvayina:
Isaiah's 45:5 seems to disagree with you. Somebody is lying and I know who.and it's not the creator of the universe.

5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me.

No, God is wise. And wisdom is usually described as a she. So you are wrong here too. And Catholics no better, they often describe Mary as "The seat of wisdom"

You have been proven unwise again.

God knew everything was Good, because they were all going in perfect cycle...water, hydrogen etc..

God is not a man or human being. God is the universal consciousness. That's why the word of God always comes out from the mouth of men.



It was actually filled with dullards only three to
6 were actually learned..Athanasius, Arius, Eusebius, Nicholas (Santa Claus) and maybe One or two more...

Gabrielshow24:
This is a foolish rebuttal, you haven't proved anything 🤨?
When there are plethora of verse of God saying "Let us" 🤨, are you knowledgeable at all?

Even Isaiah 40:13-14 destroys your rebuttal. If you don't understand what I wrote up there. My intention was to buttress 'The wisdom of God' is an inherent quality. It's been with him from the very beginning! It doesn't matter whether poetically 'wisdom' is referred to as she, it's only convention to refer to God as 'He' and other things as she! —which fits the biblical narratives!

Once again, you proved you are the one with folly🤕. The council of Nicaea analyzed the trinity from various reasons before coming to a logical conclusion about his person!

The concept of God is simple, now I will like to ask you, can you define "God" for me? 🤨
Let's see the measure of the intelligence you claim to have😁!

Gabrielshow24:
This is a foolish rebuttal, you haven't proved anything 🤨?
When there are plethora of verse of God saying "Let us" 🤨, are you knowledgeable at all?

Even Isaiah 40:13-14 destroys your rebuttal. If you don't understand what I wrote up there. My intention was to buttress 'The wisdom of God' is an inherent quality. It's been with him from the very beginning! It doesn't matter whether poetically 'wisdom' is referred to as she, it's only convention to refer to God as 'He' and other things as she! —which fits the biblical narratives!

Once again, you proved you are the one with folly🤕. The council of Nicaea analyzed the trinity from various reasons before coming to a logical conclusion about his person!

The concept of God is simple, now I will like to ask you, can you define "God" for me? 🤨
Let's see the measure of the intelligence you claim to have😁!

Gabrielshow24:
A bad and faulty analogy 🤨. Jesus is not a created being, he existed with the Father from the beginning. He was God's companion!

If indeed according to you, Jesus was created then you imply God foolish since Jesus is termed the wisdom of God!🤔

Now if God is foolish how then did he get wise to the extent to create something? And even if he did create something, how did he know it was good? 🤨 Now you have another dilemma.

Let's use this same narrative with the expression 'word of God'. How did your God learn to speak? If he possessed it from his beginning 👀 then it's an inherent quality hence since God has no beginning, this quality had been with him!

The council of Nicaea was not filled with dullards neither with those that use cheap analogy to sell false scripts!

Gabrielshow24:
This is a foolish rebuttal, you haven't proved anything 🤨?
When there are plethora of verse of God saying "Let us" 🤨, are you knowledgeable at all?

Even Isaiah 40:13-14 destroys your rebuttal. If you don't understand what I wrote up there. My intention was to buttress 'The wisdom of God' is an inherent quality. It's been with him from the very beginning! It doesn't matter whether poetically 'wisdom' is referred to as she, it's only convention to refer to God as 'He' and other things as she! —which fits the biblical narratives!

Once again, you proved you are the one with folly🤕. The council of Nicaea analyzed the trinity from various reasons before coming to a logical conclusion about his person!

The concept of God is simple, now I will like to ask you, can you define "God" for me? 🤨
Let's see the measure of the intelligence you claim to have😁!

gohf:
Are you not foolish, seeing that you believe God didn't create wisdom

So answer this then that you quoted
Isa.40.14 Whom did the LORD consult to enlighten him, and who taught him the right way? Who was it that taught him knowledge or showed him the path of understanding? (NIV)

Did God consult another non created being like himself? Who taught him what to do?

gohf:
Gabrielshow24 seeing as you are so wise, why not answer a question from God to Job.

Job.38.36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

gohf:
Asking how God got wise when you are the one separating the existence of wisdom from God, or suggesting that since God did not create wisdom, God needed to meet another self existing being called wisdom before he himself became wise and without that being God is foolish.

This is how devil and led men to call their creator foolishness because they fail to accept God is God in their hearts

orisa37:
JESUS WAS BORN NOT CREATED LIKE MUMU ADAM SO PLEASE MIND YOUR LANGUAGE.

gohf:
if you had any wisdom then one who is born is such lesser than the one that birth them, so the one who is born and one who is created which of them is greater?

You are trying to use a failed logic to propagate a lie that God didn't not create Jesus

orisa37:
QUO VADIS?

Gabrielshow24:
Some people just like to be in delusion🙃. When you take the things of God, they have always been! It's the concept of time that brings about beginning and end! When someone said that before the world began "I am" yet some incongruous maleficent buffoon believes otherwise. Even simple wisdom dictate that words such as "create" becomes void and are not applicable for such a being! Simple Primary school reasoning suggests that the term "create" is greatly associated with time! How Pathetic 🤦🏾‍♂️!

Thus from Kingdom Principles, the Son was never Created! He hath been with the Father from Eternity to Eternity. He is the physical personification of God's nature!—He is the member of the God-head that decided to be a physical being!

Simple Science suggests that things outside time are permanent and no changes occur for such things yet some wannabe Einstein says otherwise 😂 —They will still explain how God attained wisdom😂😂😂!

orisa37:
GOD IS WISDOM !!!

Julia25:
This is more befitting because if one suggests God created wisdom, except in the form as "wisdom originated from God", then it is completely wrong. A transcendental being such as God is immutable, hence He doesn't change!

If He acquired or created wisdom then He was foolish earlier, which now begs the question which Gabrielshow24 has posed, "how did he attain wisdom when he is foolish? " Note the use of "is" since he is eternally present. Hence it becomes impossible for him to acquire or create wisdom since he is foolish!

The orthodox view is what you have surmised above! God is wisdom. The owner of the thread is wrong on that footing.

gohf:
Now think about a comic artist, or a manga/manhua for those into asian sketched stories. Now if artist who is the creator of those characters in sketched up world, decides to draw a character and name that character after himself or call it, his image having a power to erase or rule in his sketched up world.

The first question is, is this image, this character given such power and authority to erase, created? Yes it is, yes he/she, the character is created.

Second question, is that character the creator, the comic artist? The answer is No


The question then is, even though without a doubt (personally) Jesus is the image of God why do some call him God, even when the creator and author did not call him or tell others to call him God?

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't support your statement with just single verse from God's word.

Should we then take your mere word as fact over God's word?

gohf:
you shouldn't but then what stopped you from accepting those statements backed up by God's word.

John.17.3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Mark.12.32 The teacher of religious law replied, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth by saying that there is only one God and no other.

would you not look for another excuse to reject the truth? That there is only one God and that Jesus is the son of God, whom God brought to life and says, this is my son and I am his Father.

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't provide the said God's word to back your claim.



Are these the scriptures that says God CREATED Jesus to be His exact image?




Do Trinitarians ever told you that there's are TWO/THREE ONLY GODS Or you didn't know that Trinitarians also agreed that there's ONLY ONE GOD?

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't provide the said God's word to back your claim.



Are these the scriptures that says God CREATED Jesus to be His exact image?




Do Trinitarians ever told you that there's are TWO/THREE ONLY GODS Or you didn't know that Trinitarians also agreed that there's ONLY ONE GOD?

orisa37:
I AM CREATION, PROCREATION, BORNAGAIN, ENGLISH LANGUAGE, I AM THE WORD, EVERY WORD. I AM
G.O.D.