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Op has gone on sabbatical leave and forget about the thread.

Abeg, any way to get admitted into college of education for nursing? Do they offer visa for that route? And most importantly, for someone with first degree, is it possible to secure? Abeg those with knowledge should chip in please

CC Cococandy; Franknetter

Lhimeet:
It’s been a while Frank, I’m following 👍

I was a big follower of your travel thread when you moved then. Nice to hear from you.

you won a big bet sometime ago right?

DAramis:
Op has gone on sabbatical leave and forget about the thread.

Abeg, any way to get admitted into college of education for nursing? Do they offer visa for that route? And most importantly, for someone with first degree, is it possible to secure? Abeg those with knowledge should chip in please

CC Cococandy; Franknetter

Shush, no one has gone on a sabbatical. I have a life outside nairaland. shut it

Bossman:
We still dey here oh. Good to see that things have gone really well for you. Still in Chicagoland? I remember back then you were in the South Suburbs when you first came. Still here in the NW Suburbs oh. Wifey is an RN with 28+ years experience. So I can understand your journey a bit. I'm still in IT myself, though I am in management now. After about 29+ years of writing code.
FrankNetter, you have done really well for yourself. And I am sure you are an inspiration to a lot of folks here. Well done my brother.

Thanks my brother, we should link up o! Which suburb you dey?

ffo:
is the pay different? foreign trained and America trained. who earns higher?
another question, what is the difference between LPN, ADN, and BSN? who earns higher?
if you upgrade your degree from associate to BSN, do you earn more?
does Associate Nurses get Green card sponsorships?

Travel nurses, Dental, Pediatrics and Anesthetic nurses, rate their wages.

This is a compound question.
Licensed Practical Nurse (LPNs) are the lowest paid in the hierarchy of nurses and they typically are stuck in nursing homes and assisted living facilities. You spend typically around 1 year getting this license.

Associate Degree in Nursing (ADN) is your entry level into the good life, you spend two years getting this from a community college, its cheap, easy and your best bet.

Bachelor's degree in Nursing (BSN) is gotten from a 4 year university and is typically the best paid amongst these and for a travel nurse like myself, is the best option.

My track was WAEC from Nigeria, ADN, then BSN online.

FrankNetter:
Thus began my journey. I took the placement tests and began school. I'm not gonna bore you with the details but I eventually finished my prerequisites without taking any student loans; I did this by working with UPS who at that time, had a program for that.

I got my CNA license, started wiping ass for a living. I worked the midday shift 2pm - 10pm. Then I'd go to UPS Chicago area consolidation Hub (cach) for night shift, 11pm - 4am. Mind you, between both jobs, my drive time was like 45 mins. I used to be so tired and sleepy and it was only by God's grace I didn't crash my car multiple times.

I finished my prerequisites in 2 years, applied for the nursing program and finally got in.

The nursing program itself consisted of me going to school for lectures twice a week. One more day for practicals and one day for clinical rotations (hospitals or nursing homes). The clinical rotations varied based on the material we were being taught at each time. So, if we were learning about Obstetrics, we would get a clinical rotation to the Obstetrics and Gynecology units of different hospitals in the area, if we were being taught Geriatrics, we would get a clinical rotation to Skilled Nursing Facilites (nursing homes) and Assisted Living facilities for the duration of that material (and so on and so forth). The clinical groups consisted of six to eight students and one instructor. For first year, the clinical rotations lasted 8 hours (1 day) every week, but for second year, 12 hours (1 day) every week.

The total number of students was 60, 4 were guys and 2 of the 4 guys were Nigerian. We were tested every week on the material learned the previous week and these tests included the written portion and the practical portion. For the practicals, you had 3 tries after which you would be kicked out of the program. For Maths tests, you had 2 tries and you had to score 100% or you would be kicked out of the program.

It was kinda tough, but having schooled in IMSU, this was nothing to me. which brings me to my next topic: Relativity.


My classmates used to complain a lot during the program but for someone like myself who had a background in Medicine and had thugged my way through IMSU with their stupidity, this was nothing. If a particular portion of the material was proving too difficult, I just devoted more time and effort to it. I'd send emails asking the lecturers to clarify or smooth out stuff for me. I'd go on YouTube, I'd reach out to classmates to elaborate but no matter how hard the material was, I always found a way to get past it. For them, this was the hardest thing ever, but relative to my experience, this was nothing. The program wasn't perfect and some weeks when we had different opinions on the answers, the faculty would do "quiz autopsies" where we would discuss the rationale behind each answer and see where the class went wrong on the quiz.

I ended up having a study group consisting of myself, the other Nigerian dude- Ikechukwu, one white lady - Genevieve and another black lady - Alyssa. These were the core participants and constants (if you may) for the study group. Other times, some people would join us but for the most part, it was just us 4. We would meet up every sunday at different locations (panera bread, Library) to brainstorm, ask each other questions and gain a solid understanding of the material because we had quizzes every monday. We maintained steady grades and made it through the program unscathed. I ended up becoming my class president and the honor society president (Phi Theta Kappa) as well.

I must point this out though, my faculty consisted of mostly black american ladies and they loved me , I used to get away with some stuff they would give the ladies headaches about and it used to piss my classmates off

My program had a syllabus and rule book that governed the actions of the students, staff and faculty. Stuff like dress code, attendance policy etc. If you had any issues that you could not resolve with the instructor, you would check the rulebook and if they erred, go above them to the program coordinator and your issues would be addressed. I had an issue and here's how I got it fixed.

My program had a rule that states, if you missed class or clinical rotations 3 times in one semester, you would have to come back at the end of the semester to make it up - kinda like an extra day or two, just to fulfill the hourly requirements to pass the semester. If you chose not to do that, you would fail the class and get kicked out.

Due to some small wahala here and there, I had two absences for the semester. The semester was coming to an end and I had filed my paperwork to get my citizenship as I was still a green-card holder. The last clinical day for the semester coincided with my swearing in ceremony to become a citizen and seeing the scheduling conflict, I reached out to my clinical instructor and the lady told me I would have to come in extra and make up the extra day or I would fail the class. So I checked and according to the rule book, you could have an excused absence if you were in the US military or if you got called for jury duty.

I pointed out the fact that these excused absences were for people who were citizens already and for a school that prides itself in the International student population, this was unfair. My instructor no wan listen o. She said she would fail me if I missed the clinical day. I sure as hell was not going to miss my swearing in ceremony.
I went above the instructor and reached out to the program coordinator (kinda like HOD for Nigerian universities) and she referred me back to the program rulebook and told me that I would fail the class if I did not show up for the clinical day. This gave me lots of sleepless nights and affected my grades and mood up to the point that my study buddies noticed the difference.

As the president of Phi Theta Kappa (my school honor society), I was involved with some programs on campus that offered me the privilege of mixing with the top officials in my school. We had a fund raising lunch that I was invited to, and by pure coincidence, I was seated on the same table as the college president (kinda like VC for Nigerian Universities), so after small talk, I brought up my dilemma and the rest is history. The program rule book was updated to include excused absences for greencard holders and international students. I take pride in that a lot.

cococandy:
Oh You’re set! That California one can take long to get. You’re more than ready.

My Washington license is compact as well. The sky is the limit.

When I intend geting a California contract, I would reach out for tips

FRANKNETTER didn’t update his last thread because of the toxicity, he created a new one thinking they will be all gone. Me reading page 2 and im shaking my head

FrankNetter:
When I intend geting a California contract, I would reach out for tips

hi frank. Idk if u remember me lol
Wanna ask as a gc holder can you travel outside of the state? My dad a citizen is also filing for me we are at the state where we submitting our file to uscis
Cant wait to be in the state

FrankNetter:
Shush, no one has gone on a sabbatical. I have a life outside nairaland. shut it

I know. Wasn't too serious about the comment of mine.

Can you look into my question when free please?

FrankNetter:
Where all my fans dey?? Come Mark attendance

Thanks for the mention!...invitation to join your resurrection! Reading comments to this point ... think this thread will soon become too toxic unless the mods step in. Just keep focused on updating us on your trials and tribulations ... and all the little stuff that add a whole lot of spice to your thread. What about the Big For Nothing? ... or you now rolling in Lambo? .... about the Vet?...one of your earlier clients? .. ever contact him since? ...how the church?... the babes?...you get around a lot ...one in each city?...neighbourhood?...block?...or settled for one? Still with the family?...or moved on? .. .gist us ... like we hanging out ....and not be like you be HR for all things medical!

FrankNetter:
When I intend geting a California contract, I would reach out for tips

Following your story.

But....

I have some questions for you?

1) Why didn't you just go for BSC Nursing straight?
Why did you decide to take this route knowing that you will still have to go back to get a Bachelors?

2) How did you become a Green Card Holder?

3) How much was your Tution fee for this Associate in a Community College?
Were you paying per semester or per year?

4) Was it a Full-time program or Partime you did?
Were you also working and schooling?

5) I don't like USA.
Why?
2 of my Uncle's (they are brothers) who lived in USA for over 20 years are suffering today.
How?
One in his Fifty's and the other in his Sixty's fell terribly sick
The one in his Fifty's (divorced) was brought back to Nigeria becos he had no health insurance for treatment.
The other is his Sixty's fell sick too
Got laid off.
No Health insurance too.
Both are USA Citizens o.

The wife of the one in his Sixty's is currently using her health insurance for him. It's just sad and heart breaking.
We are trying to manage the health of the one currently in Nigeria.

As I dey like this, I don turn to by force CAREGIVER for him. There is no caregiving duty I can't perform. That's why I've picked interest in Nursing. It's not easy mehn. It's tiring and draining.

But USA is not good. This my Uncle brought back due to sickness was a man I watched as a very little boy travel to USA to meet his older brother who worked it for him to go over there.

Infact, because of them I always dreamt of travelling to USA. USA was my childhood dream even till my University days.
Now both of them are battling chronic sickness going to 3 years now.

That dream of me traveling and living in USA has turned to a big nightmare which I dread daily. I fear USA now.

Infact, I hate USA

FrankNetter:
This is a compound question.
Licensed Practical Nurse (LPNs) are the lowest paid in the hierarchy of nurses and they typically are stuck in nursing homes and assisted living facilities. You spend typically around 1 year getting this license.

Associate Degree in Nursing (ADN) is your entry level into the good life, you spend two years getting this from a community college, its cheap, easy and your best bet.

Bachelor's degree in Nursing (BSN) is gotten from a 4 year university and is typically the best paid amongst these and for a travel nurse like myself, is the best option.

My track was WAEC from Nigeria, ADN, then BSN online.

Thank you for your response. Could you also the following questions:

foreign trained and America trained. who earns higher?
does Associate Nurses get Green card sponsorships?
Travel nurses, Dental, Pediatrics and Anesthetic nurses, rate their wages.

NiceLegs:
Following your story.

But....

I have some questions for you?

1) Why didn't you just go for BSC Nursing straight?
Why did you decide to take this route knowing that you will still have to go back to get a Bachelors?

2) How did you become a Green Card Holder?

3) How much was your Tution fee for this Associate in a Community College?
Were you paying per semester or per year?

4) Was it a Full-time program or Partime you did?
Were you also working and schooling?

5) I don't like USA.
Why?
2 of my Uncle's (brothers) who lived in USA for over 20 years are suffering today.
How?
One in his Fifty's and the other in his Sixty's fell terribly sick
The one in his Fifty's (divorced) was brought back to Nigeria becos he had no health insurance for treatment.
The other is his Sixty's fell sick too
Got laid off.
No Health insurance too.
Both are USA Citizens o.

The wife of the one in his Sixty's is currently using her health insurance for him. It's just sad and heart breaking.
We are trying to manage the health of the one currently in Nigeria.

As I dey like this, I don turn to by force CAREGIVER for him. There is no caregiving duty I can't perform. That's why I've picked interest in Nursing. It's not easy mehn. It's tiring and draining.

But USA is not good. This my Uncle brought back due to sickness was a man I watched as a very little boy travel to USA to meet his older brother who worked it for him to go over there.

Infact, because of them I always dreamt of travelling to USA. USA was my childhood dream even till my University days.
Now both of them are battling chronic sickness going to 3 years now.

That dream of me traveling and living in USA has turned to a big nightmare which I dread daily. I fear USA now.

Infact, I hate USA

Chai, very unfortunate situation to have befallen your 2 siblings. Hope they had some investment, savings and houses or House back in Nigeria while they were hustling in the USA? ........... life is indeed a battle ground

AngelicBeing:
Chai, very unfortunate situation to have befallen your 2 siblings. Hope they had some investment, savings and houses or House back in Nigeria while they were hustling in the USA? ........... life is indeed a battle ground

So you believe this fable..😄😄

AngelicBeing:
Chai, very unfortunate situation to have befallen your 2 siblings. Hope they had some investment, savings and houses or House back in Nigeria while they were hustling in the USA? ........... life is indeed a battle ground

he is lying. That’s how they derail threads 😂

AngelicBeing:
Chai, very unfortunate situation to have befallen your 2 siblings. Hope they had some investment, savings and houses or House back in Nigeria while they were hustling in the USA? ........... life is indeed a battle ground

My dear. It has not been easy.
They are my Uncle's (They are brothers. Both siblings to my mum).

Well, the one in his Fifty's managed to buy a Land in Nigeria in 2020. But when he was brought back in 2022, we had to sell the land to raise money for his treatment here.

Apparently he never owned a house in USA. He bought a house in USA early that 2022 but they said he was paying something like mortgage for the house so it was not really his own. They took it back when he fell sick. He came back with Nothing. It's very sad.

As for my other Uncle. The one in his sixty's. His wife is using her health insurance to treat him so far. Does he have any property in his name is what I don't know of. But I know that the wife has a land she bought in her name in Nigeria some years back.

Hmmm...the matter tire me.

My dear.
This ordeal has made me see life in a whole new light.

I'm drained. Both physically, psychologically, financially and emotionally.

Sometimes I look at my Uncle's USA Passport and I ask myself...

"What's now the point of it all?"

USA is not a good place to live in.

internationalman:
So you believe this fable..😄😄

What exactly will he gain by lying or posting this kind of information online, l give him the benefits of doubt that he is likely saying the truth, Life can be CRUEL to some people, so let's give him the benefits of doubt that this might likely be a REAL STORY but if it false, it can't prevent nor hinder anyone from Traveling abroad.

NiceLegs:
My dear. It has not been easy.
They are my Uncle's (They are brothers. Both siblings to my mum).

Well, the one in his Fifty's managed to buy a Land in Nigeria in 2020. But when he was brought back in 2022, we had to sell the land to raise money for his treatment here.

Apparently he never owned a house in USA. He bought a house in USA early that 2022 but they said he was paying something like mortgage for the house so it was not really his own. They took it back when he fell sick. He came back with Nothing. It's very sad.

As for my other Uncle. The one in his sixty's. His wife is using her health insurance to treat him so far. Does he have any property in his name is what I don't know of. But I know that the wife has a land she bought in her name in Nigeria some years back.

Hmmm...the matter tire me.

My dear.
This ordeal has made me see life in a whole new light.

I'm drained. Both physically, psychologically, financially and emotionally.

Sometimes I look at my Uncle's USA Passport and I ask myself...

"What's now the point of it all?"

USA is not a good place to live in.

It is not about USA been good nor bad to live in, it might likely be the CHOICE ( s) they made on Arrival to the USA, we have millions of undocumented and documented immigrants living successfully in the USA and in different parts of the Western world, USA is still a good place to achieve your dreams regardless of what people are saying ooooooooo, as far back as 2006. , l physically met several successful Nigerians and other Africans doing well and have carved a NICHE for themselves in different fields of Human endeavor in North America, so Yes, North America is a good place and l have no regrets moving to the Western world, don't let what befell your Uncle's, discourage you, VAMOOSE to the USA if you can ooooooooo,

FrankNetter:
The program rule book was updated to include excused absences for greencard holders and international students. I take pride in that a lot.

Hmmm .... I wonder how many before you were kicked out because of this or similar date clashes? To every rule there are exceptions ... but we have to speak up and make the case ... may not win ...but at least you tried your best. I love that you did not give up ...and I'm almost sure you were told " it's a waste of time trying " . Not only did you get excused ...but you got them to make an amendment to the rules which will now make others following to remain enrolled. So ehmmm ... didn't you follow up and have them name it the Franknetter Amendment 2024?

Franknetter thread still remain the best in travel section.

We miss u my bro.
Welcome back.

FrankNetter:
I was in medical school before I left to the USA. IMSU had a backlog of students to graduate and I couldn't see myself spending 12 years studying one program so I left after my 6th year.

Wait u spent 6yrs in imsu before leaving?

Wow

Interesting…

FrankNetter:
When I intend geting a California contract, I would reach out for tips

What do you advise for passing NClEX?

FrankNetter:
Where all my fans dey?? Come Mark attendance

Interesting thread

Welcome back Frank.

BunmiBie:
What do you advise for passing NClEX?

Study everyday. I used uworld and I passed on the first try.

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I lost access to my account but I'm back now.