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sonmvayina:
Satan, devil and Lucifer are three different orishas. They are not God's. They represent the laws and principles of life.
Satan is the orisha of the air
Devil is the orisha of darkness
Lucifer is the orisha or love, war and death. Lucifer is a feminine aspect . Lucifer is a "she" Not a he. And she is who christians know as Mary the mother of Jesus. She is the so called queen of heaven, Don't miss them together.
Where did you people get the idea that they are evil?

I have nothing to say on this. If thats your view, then go ahead. I don't waste my arguments. It's Wisdom. On to the next

NO.
SATAN IS NATURE.
IT'S NOT AI EITHER.

MaxInDHouse:
Where most people get confused is when they call God Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent.
There is no where God claim to be any of these but out of presumptuousness many just feel God must be all of these and majority among them have now turned to atheism when they have a rethink over what they believe.
What you need to ask yourself is whether God is Omniscient according to what most people say.
The Bible God told us that He knows the end right from the beginning {Revelations 21:6} this led many to conclude that God is Omniscient but then they failed to note what He said in the Bible book of Genesis Chapters 18 & 21
Please read: God said to Abraham
“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21
This verse proved that the Bible God is not Omniscient nor Omnipresent as many people have assumed because if He knew everything then why must He go to Sodom and Gomorrah to see if the reports brought to Him is exactly as they said? And if He is Omnipresent there is no need going to ascertain what they told Him.
Now how do we reconcile Revelations 21:6 with Genesis 18:20-21?
After reading these verses some just conclude that this God is a confusionist and they turned either to atheism or agnosticism.
To reconcile these verses we need more than just reading but studying and the help of God's Holy Spirit to unravel the sacred secret.
The truth is that God can see everything and can know everything but first of all we need to remember that He is Holy this means there is no thought of evil in Him in His heart it's always good things that comes in so He is incapable of evil thought {James 1:13} so during creation He never had a second (negative) thought regarding the life He gave others that's why He later regretted creating humans to represent Him on planet earth because the thoughts in their hearts is always negative unlike Him who is incapable of evil thoughts! Genesis 6:6

Secondly after the incident in Eden God chose not to see everything that man is doing because it will continue to sadden Him {Habakkuk 1:13} to illustrate think of a mother who gave birth to a male child, sent him to school and after graduating the young man lost his brain, do you think his mother will like being around to see him do in$ane things?
Surely not!
But then if the young man regain his memories and start crying seeking how to return home how do you think the mother will feel?
Well God sent some angels throughout the earth whose wings are full of eyes {Ezekiel 10:12} these are the ones serving as God's eyes {2Chronicles 16:9} they are the ones reporting to Him what humans are doing to one another on this planet! Genesis 18:20-21

May you have Peace!

I will advise you to stop confusing yourself and probably give your Bible for people who can interpret it correctly for you.

The genesis you are talking about. Gen. 18 20-21. It was angels in form of humans that branched to visit Abraham, on their journey to Sodom & Gomorrah for destruction, that was talking and not God himself.

You deliberately carved out previous verses 16-19, in other to look real and proof nonsense point.

Let me educate. God created humans in such a way he can decide good and bad and chooses the one he likes, meanwhile, the consequences of his actions will also come back to him, either good or bad.

Fiscus105:
I will advise you to stop confusing yourself and probably give your Bible for people who can interpret it correctly for you. The genesis you are talking about. Gen. 18 20-21. It was angels in form of humans that branched to visit Abraham, on their journey to Sodom & Gomorrah for destruction that was talking and not God himself. You deliberately carved out previous verses 16-19, in other to look real and proof nonsense point. Let me educate. God created humans in such a way he can decide good and bad and chooses the one he likes, meanwhile, the consequences of his actions will also come back to him, either good or bad.

Please did that verse say what you wrote in the highlighted or you just fabricated it to suit your own agenda?

Here is what is written in three different versions of the Bible:

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. Genesis 18:20-21 KJV


Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.” ‭Genesis 18:20-21 NIV‬

Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21 NWT

Please which version of the Bible do you say told you it's an angel that's speaking in this two verses?

MaxInDHouse:
Please did that verse say what you wrote in the highlighted or you just fabricated it to suit your own agenda?

Here is what is written in three different versions of the Bible:

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. Genesis 18:20-21 KJV


Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.” ‭Genesis 18:20-21 NIV‬

Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21 NWT

Please which version of the Bible do you say told you it's an angel that's speaking in this two verses?

As I said, give your Bible to someone who knows how to read and interpret correctly, here is extended version of the message, I extended it backward a little and not in full, if you ready to learn, you can marry the verses 16A (wen the 3 men) to verse 20A ( the Lord says).

Here is analogy! Adeboye would be talking to his congregants, and he would say, THE LORD SAYS..............


Meanwhile, even if it's like that, Bible often written in "ANTHROPORMISM." That is, in a way for human being to fully understand better. It was written as if, God behaving like humans, just for us to have deep understandings,but not how it's in reality.

Fiscus105:
As I said, give your Bible to someone who knows how to read and interpret correctly, here is extended version of the message, I extended it backward a little and not in full, if you ready to learn, you can marry the verses 16A (wen the 3 men) to verse 20A ( the Lord says).

The meaning, Adeboye would be talking to his congregants, and he would say, THE LORD SAYS..............


Meanwhile, even if it's like that, Bible often written in "ANTHROPORMISM." That's, in a way for humans being to understand better, it was written as if, God behaving like humans, just for us to have deep understanding, and that's not how it's in reality.

You haven't quote where the Bible said it's an angel that's speaking in those verses!

Fiscus105:
I will advise you to stop confusing yourself and probably give your Bible for people who can interpret it correctly for you.

The genesis you are talking about. Gen. 18 20-21. It was angels in form of humans that branched to visit Abraham, on their journey to Sodom & Gomorrah for destruction, that was talking and not God himself.

You deliberately carved out previous verses 16-19, in other to look real and proof nonsense point.

Let me educate. God created humans in such a way he can decide good and bad and chooses the one he likes, meanwhile, the consequences of his actions will also come back to him, either good or bad.

Two were angels, one is Christ or at least in his pre-incarnate form.

Maximus692:
You haven't quote where the Bible said it's an angel that's speaking in those verses!

So you agree that it was actually Jehovah who visited Abraham yet believe that no one has seen God

When your confusion is confusing

AngelahFlo:
My Ideology is based on the Bible which is the word of God. I don't know where your ideology is based but of its outside the word of God then it's not real. It's falsehood. While it's true that God has an interpretation in various languages like the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa? It's not the languages I'm faulting you with its you equating an interpretation of God to pagan nations that God destroyed.
Example likening God to be same as the pagan god of the chaldeans. Yahweh is both a name and title of God. Don't know where you got your one of the sons of Enlil from.

You don't know, you don't know... ignorance is not an excuse, the best thing to do is to read, study and research more......that is what knowledge is all about, not blind faith.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote these three words in the Bible?

Can you quote where it is stated that blood transfusion is bad,in the bible

jaephoenix:
Can you quote where it is stated that blood transfusion is bad,in the bible

You have said you won't engage me on this forum again:

jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.

God warned people in ancient times against intake of blood:

"Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat" Genesis 9:4

"You must not eat any blood in any of your dwelling places, whether that of birds or that of animals." Leviticus 7:26

"But you must not eat the blood; you should pour it out on the ground like water." Deuteronomy 12:16

We don't know it's implications because we thought it's just about eating blood until God's Holy Spirit revealed to the apostles:

but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from what is strangled, and from blood. Act 15:20

"to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:29

"As for the believers from among the nations, we have sent them our decision in writing that they should keep away from what is sacrificed to idols as well as from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality.” Act 21:25

Now we know the rule to avoid blood is about sound health!

sonmvayina:
You don't know, you don't know... ignorance is not an excuse, the best thing to do is to read, study and research more......that is what knowledge is all about, not blind faith.

Thanks I appreciate but I rather stick with blind faith on this one.

MaxInDHouse:
You have said you won't engage me on this forum again:

...and you pull up this post when you know you have talked rubbish,and you have no answer for me

AngelahFlo:
Thanks I appreciate but I rather stick with blind faith on this one.

Suit yourself..

jaephoenix:
...and you pull up this post when you know you have talked rubbish,and you have no answer for me

Since the day you have concluded that i always talk rubbish i believe you shouldn't think of engaging me again as you are well aware that my utterances are rubbish or are you doubting your own stand?

sonmvayina:
Suit yourself..

Thank you