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TheGoodJoe:

I have explained to you. Use a ceiling.

No player has hit the ceiling. Some of the greats were like 80% close to the ceiling.

Many were below 40%.

That is why you had the Laudrups, Okocha, Pele, Ronaldinho, Maradona etc.

As time went on, we have most players operating on 60-80. Very few at 85% (Messi and CR7).

That is why the game looks boring
Because of the rise of lots of good players. Including Goalkeepers.

If you understand the point, there is no need asking if others didn't improve.

realpoacher:
Crab


For 10 years now, Messi and C. Ronaldo have held all players of their Generation Captive.

There were the last of the Old Generation, yet they have dominated in this new Generation like knives through butter.

You know, and I know that both would not have dominated like this in the Era starting from 1994 - 2008

Their Individual laurels dwarfs whatever argument you are putting forward.

realpoacher:
Crab


For 10 years now, Messi and C. Ronaldo have held all players of their Generation Captive.

There were the last of the Old Generation, yet they have dominated in this new Generation like knives through butter.

You know, and I know that both would not have dominated like this in the Era starting from 1994 - 2008

Their Individual laurels dwarfs whatever argument you are putting forward.

daveP:
Better to stand on the subjective stance than outright conclude they are unfit. There were many players of that era that played 30 consecutive games. Today it is a problem. Does that now mean i have to conclude they were more fit absolutely? No.

I saw the quote, but you are also aware that there's a study that also highlighted the increase in hamstring and co in modern football. Despite that study, we didn't conclude about modern football.

You saying they're unfit is wrong. Wrong wrong!!

TheGoodJoe:
Football tactics have changed a lot since Taribo West's time. The role of a central defender has evolved from being just a physical, no-nonsense tackler to a player who is also a key part of the team's offense.

Taribo West's Era (Old-School Defending):

Focus: Taribo West was a classic "stopper." His main job was to aggressively man-mark a specific opposing striker, winning duels, and clearing the ball away from danger.
Tactics: The game was more individualistic in defense. You focused on your opponent and your primary mission was to prevent them from scoring, often with physical force. Ball skills and passing from the back were not a priority.

Ekong's Era (Modern Defending):
Focus: A modern defender like Ekong must be a "ball-playing defender." His role is not just to defend, but to also start attacks from the back.
Tactics: Modern football emphasizes building play from defense. Ekong is expected to:
Start attacks: He needs to be comfortable with the ball at his feet, make accurate short passes to midfielders, and even hit long, diagonal passes to wingers.
Positional awareness: Instead of just man-marking, he operates within a defensive "zone," understanding where to be to cut off passin[
g lanes and cover for his teammates.
High press: He must be able to push up the field with the team to "press" the opponent and win the ball back high up the pitch, a tactic that was less common in West's time.
In short, while Taribo West was a master of the "defensive warrior" role, Ekong operates in a more complex and demanding tactical system that requires a wider range of skills, particularly with the ball at his feet.

daveP:
Better to stand on the subjective stance than outright conclude they are unfit. There were many players of that era that played 30 consecutive games. Today it is a problem. Does that now mean i have to conclude they were more fit absolutely? No.

I saw the quote, but you are also aware that there's a study that also highlighted the increase in hamstring and co in modern football. Despite that study, we didn't conclude about modern football.

You saying they're unfit is wrong. Wrong wrong!!

TheGoodJoe:

I have actually thought about the injuries too and I don't think that is down to being unfit but even to their fitness.

Modern day footballers play at a higher intensity than before. Also they play more games. That is the crust of the injuries.

I also believe the solution is teams embracing a fuller squad and utilizing healthy, regular rotations. That will likely see to a drop in the injuries.

The intensity is here to stay.

Mujtahida:
Complexity and difference does not mean better. Football is scoring a goal. That's it.

I answer a question with two sentences and score 10 marks. You fill five pages and score 10 marks.

So they've taken a simple game, complicate it, make it drab and pacy.

Mujtahida:
High intensity is a value for what purpose?

TheGoodJoe:
Actually, Guardiola's Barcelona roasting teams like butter on fresh fish proved the gap between the modern game today and the past.

All that KNOWLEDGE THEY SOAKED made it easier for them to smoke all teams. Happened in Germany and England. Resulting a total change in football.

You can't argue against proven history.

TheGoodJoe:
Watch PSG last season and understand the effectiveness of intensity.

I see it as the clear indices of football success. Why do you think Chelsea signed Pedro, Manchester City signed Reijnders and Arsenal signed Eberechi Eze. Intensity is getting a huge edge.

The positional football philosophers have a lot of ground to cover.

Mujtahida:
In every era, there is always, I mean always a team that smokes the others. In the 90's Inter dominated. Nothing new, nothing strange about Gaurdiola's barca dominating teams. There's nothing new under the sun of football. PSG just smoked teams last season. If I use your own logic, it shows the gap between modern football and modern football?You see how untenable that sort of argument is?

TheGoodJoe:
Football tactics have changed a lot since Taribo West's time. The role of a central defender has evolved from being just a physical, no-nonsense tackler to a player who is also a key part of the team's offense.

Taribo West's Era (Old-School Defending):

Focus: Taribo West was a classic "stopper." His main job was to aggressively man-mark a specific opposing striker, winning duels, and clearing the ball away from danger.
Tactics: The game was more individualistic in defense. You focused on your opponent and your primary mission was to prevent them from scoring, often with physical force. Ball skills and passing from the back were not a priority.

Ekong's Era (Modern Defending):
Focus: A modern defender like Ekong must be a "ball-playing defender." His role is not just to defend, but to also start attacks from the back.
Tactics: Modern football emphasizes building play from defense. Ekong is expected to:
Start attacks: He needs to be comfortable with the ball at his feet, make accurate short passes to midfielders, and even hit long, diagonal passes to wingers.
Positional awareness: Instead of just man-marking, he operates within a defensive "zone," understanding where to be to cut off passin[
g lanes and cover for his teammates.
High press: He must be able to push up the field with the team to "press" the opponent and win the ball back high up the pitch, a tactic that was less common in West's time.
In short, while Taribo West was a master of the "defensive warrior" role, Ekong operates in a more complex and demanding tactical system that requires a wider range of skills, particularly with the ball at his feet.

Mujtahida:
Intensity for what? Football is not about sprinting and running. That the game is fast paced is of what value?

Mujtahida:
It's all just smoke. Instead of Ekong to defend close to his eighteen, he moves up the pitch towards the opposition and that's what gives him tactical awareness and to what end?

Teams concede today just like yesterday. So it's the unnecessary complication of the game that trips you. I see through it and I'm not impressed.

TheGoodJoe:
Different playing system has gone to three leagues and smoked. This is beyond a team dominating. This was a total change of football philosophy destroying the old ideas in a highly convincing manner.

TheGoodJoe:
A team of the most skillful players of all time without intensity will be blown away by a team of low skill but insane intensity.

That is a pure fact.

TheGoodJoe:
Watch Manchester City vs Tottenham. When Rayan Cherki dropped into midfield to increase our numbers in the middle, Spence of Tottenham moved from left back deep into Manchester City midfield to mark Rayan Cherki and give him less time on the ball.

It is modern day tactics. It is why football changed.

Mujtahida:
That's why it's now athletics. Hussain Bolt with the ball at his feet.

Mujtahida:
Nothing strange. Mourinho did it across leagues playing basic football. It's time and season.

The point of football is to score and win. Shikena

TheGoodJoe:
Because they will dominate the artist.

Mujtahida:
The artist is the beauty. Take your Hussain Bolt. Let me have my Zidane.

123jamessmith:
Please can anyone verified the venue of Lesotho against South africa in world cup qualifier.
I'm hearing that the match we be played in South africa. That will give South africa huge favour.

realpoacher:
Crab


For 10 years now, Messi and C. Ronaldo have held all players of their Generation Captive.

There were the last of the Old Generation, yet they have dominated in this new Generation like knives through butter.

You know, and I know that both would not have dominated like this in the Era starting from 1994 - 2008

Their Individual laurels dwarfs whatever argument you are putting forward.

charlesemeka85:
Pple for X dey talk ooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

“Mikel Obi was not ever seen eating in everyone’s house like an Almajiri. That is why he played for the best club in the world and went far in football. Gen Z super eagles should learn from him”

BankyGee:
Chidera Ejuke starts for Sevilla against Getafe
Christantus Uche starts for Getafe against Sevilla

🤪

M7even:
E be like say I go skip Newcastle vs Liverpool for this match 😋😋😝😋

Sugarboyy:
Imagine watching Haaland against Tottenham and I laugh when modern strikers are compared in any ramifications with their olden counterparts.

Again, watching Man City defenders makes me laugh modern defenders and defending... Non of them is even better than Yobo