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gohf:
Jesus is anointed king and Lord over all expect God, and all are commanded to worship him. Every knee shall bow and say that Jesus Christ is lord

gohf:
guy I will keep telling you repent, you don't even see your own deceptions. You haven't changed because you haven't genuinely repented

This is exactly what you wrote Ask grok to do an unbiased analysis of "In the beginning was the word" using the greek interlinear to determine if the word was created at the beginning or already existed at the beginning.

Steep:
Paul also said there is one Lord, Jesus christ does that mean the father is not Lord.

Boomark:
1 Corinthians 8:4-6 NIrV
[4]...“there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him.

Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB
[4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!


The bible made it clear that there is ONLY ONE GOD. Even though there are many who are called Gods. That "One God" is the Father.

What you defined as trinity is not in the bible. It is against the position of God the Father who the scripture declared as ONE GOD over all.


So tell us from the bible where you got your ONE GOD as 3 persons?

Chibuezem, Ken4Christ watch

sonmvayina:
well, you are wrong.
God is one and indivisible.......
he alone exist of himself....no partner .

Chibuezem:
1 John 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Chibuezem:
Yes God is one in three persons 😍


If you like sing your opinion from January to December, use Ai and go to the Tibetan monks for spiritual guidance you cannot falsify the truth which is..... God in three persons 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙏🎉❤️

Steep:
why is it so hard for you?
If something existed at the start of something does it mean the thing came into existence at the start. If a mother existed at the beginning of her child's birthday does that mean the mother was born at her child's birthday?

Let me make it more simpler ask grok if the word came into existence or he simply was already there?

Don't give me long story. Type it word for word and give me answer.

Steep:
Paul also said there is one Lord, Jesus christ does that mean the father is not Lord.

Ken4Christ:
Don't mind him. Jesus is God in the flesh. The Father is God in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father and he also called the Spirit of Christ.

Chibuezem:
1 John 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Chibuezem:
Yes God is one in three persons 😍


If you like sing your opinion from January to December, use Ai and go to the Tibetan monks for spiritual guidance you cannot falsify the truth which is..... God in three persons 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙏🎉❤️

gohf:
everyone who read the Bible knows that the word of God is eternal, it existed before the creation of our world and like Grok puts it, it's God's agent and means it creation.

Did the word of God come into creation? Yes the word became flesh

And it is not OR, but an the word was already present when the world was made.

Is it hard for you to understand that God brought forth his word and sent forth his word.

Lol soon you will want me to ask Grok how God used the word to create everything and where was God before everything was made.

gohf:
even husbands are Lord

Afterall Paul also wrote the head of the woman is her husband and the head of the husband is Christ and the head of Christ is God 😊

gohf:
one in 3 persons means 1 out of every 3 persons

God in 3 persons means God is in those 3 persons, so God isn't a person but indwells in three persons who I believe you mean Father son and Spirit these three persons have God in them? Right?

gohf:
thank God that's not all that John wrote even though it's some people's favorite quote

They are ALL ONE IN TESTIMONY, ALL THREE ARE WITNESSES not gods

gohf:
everyone who read the Bible knows that the word of God is eternal, it existed before the creation of our world and like Grok puts it, it's God's agent and means it creation.

Did the word of God come into creation? Yes the word became flesh

And it is not OR, but an the word was already present when the world was made.

Is it hard for you to understand that God brought forth his word and sent forth his word.

Lol soon you will want me to ask Grok how God used the word to create everything and where was God before everything was made.

sonmvayina:
it is your business.
God is consciousnesses....it cant be divided.

God is not a man or human being. several times the prophet reminded the people.
it is a pagan idea. There is no truth. it is an insult against GOD.

sonmvayina:
it is your business.
God is consciousnesses....it cant be divided.

God is not a man or human being. several times the prophet reminded the people.
it is a pagan idea. There is no truth. it is an insult against GOD.

Steep:
Paul also said there is one Lord, Jesus christ does that mean the father is not Lord.

sonmvayina:
well, you are wrong.
God is one and indivisible.......
he alone exist of himself....no partner .

sonmvayina:
one of the prophets in the Tanakh, i think Hosea or so stated 'My people perish for lack of knowledge' this was made because the jews where worshiping the Baal and the Asherahs, that is the gods and goddess of those around them thinking it was the real GOD. Same thing is happening now, people worship Baal thinking they are doing worship to Creator.
The idea of the logos is a Greek philosophy. we can see how easily it came to be part of the christian theology. it was borrowed.
several times in the Tanakh, the prophet warned the Jews that there is only one God. no one beside or in front of him, not even a son., there is no devil or Satan that is a dual opposite of God, everything he created, is sovereign to him and under his will. whatever happens whether good or bad, happens because it is his will. NOT BECAUSE SATAN DID IT.
but as an insult to him, Christianity created a son and a Satan that is his rival......and people are drinking it.

Chibuezem:
1 John 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Steep:
I asked you a simple question, Is Jesus being the one Lord exclude the father to be Lord?

Chibuezem:
1 John 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Chibuezem:
The Word of God was not created He has been with God.
The Father was not created, was not born. He has been existing before creation likewise God The Son (Jesus Christ) and The Holyspirit. They are one that bear witness in Heaven.

Steep:
It is you that cannot tell the difference according to grok the trinity was a doctrine that was derived from the activity of God ( meaning his activity as father Son and Holy Spirit) in the bible so in other words grok actually could analyze that God acts in three distinct persons.
The only difference between grok and the doctrine of the trinity is that God is not just acting as three persons but he IS three persons.

Oga, what is the meaning of "He" in your own Bible ?
Before , you say " they are 3 persons.
Now you change mouth : "he is 3 persons"
Read your own posts in the screenshot.
Pls use the brain that God gave you.

gohf:
I know some of your translation especially of John 1:10 of KJV states the world was made BY him and not through him. Even though the claim is KJV is the main one that uses textus receptus (if you don't know what TR is pls find out, and note NKJV uses through and not by)

Let's ask Grok to interpret the Greek text

ἐν αὐτῷ ζωὴ ἦν, καὶ ἡ ζωὴ ἦν τὸ φῶς τῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν Ἐγένετο ἄνθρωπος ἀπεσταλμένος παρὰ Θεοῦ, ὄνομα αὐτῷ Ἰωάνης· οὗτος ἦλθεν εἰς μαρτυρίαν ἵνα μαρτυρήσῃ περὶ τοῦ φωτός ἵνα πάντες πιστεύσωσιν δι’ αὐτοῦ οὐκ ἦν ἐκεῖνος τὸ φῶς ἀλλ’ ἵνα μαρτυρήσῃ περὶ τοῦ φωτός Ἦν τὸ φῶς τὸ ἀληθινόν ὃ φωτίζει πάντα ἄνθρωπον ἐρχόμενον εἰς τὸν κόσμον ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἦν καὶ ὁ κόσμος δι' αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο καὶ ὁ κόσμος αὐτὸν οὐκ ἔγνω εἰς τὰ ἴδια ἦλθεν καὶ οἱ ἴδιοι αὐτὸν οὐ παρέλαβον

Janosky:

Chai !!!!

Janosky:
Comma Johaneum is the forgery inserted into KJV @ 1st John 5:7 by Erasmus Desiderius in the 16th century.
It is a spurious insert not genuine scripture.
Abeg diligently research this fact I have explained.
Thanks

Chibuezem:
That’s a really good and thoughtful question 👌

The statement you made — “God in 3 persons means God is in those 3 persons…” — is actually a common way people try to understand the Trinity, but it’s a bit different from what Christian theology teaches. Let me unpack it clearly:

1. God is not something that “indwells” 3 persons

It’s not that “God” is like a spirit that lives inside the Father, Son, and Spirit. That would make “God” a fourth thing beyond the three — which is not the teaching.

2. Each person is fully God

The Father is God.

The Son is God.

The Holy Spirit is God.
They don’t merely have God in them — they each are God by nature, sharing the one divine essence.

3. But they are not three separate Gods

This is where the mystery comes in. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, the Spirit is not the Father. Yet, they are one God, not three gods.

4. How theologians phrase it

One essence (or nature), three persons.

Not “three beings with God inside them,” but “one Being, shared fully and equally by three distinct persons.”

So the difference is subtle but important:

Your statement leans toward tritheism (3 beings indwelt by God).

The doctrine of the Trinity is one God in three persons.

💡 A simpler way:

Think of “God” not as a fourth person inside them, but as the divine essence that each of the three persons fully possesses.

I can explain further 😘

Boomark:
They are one what?

1. One record bearer,

2. One person

So answer