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God In Human Form by mytrugistslog(op): 7:34am On Aug 31, 2025
Rhapsody of Realities by Pastor Chris. Sun Aug 31 2025

GOD IN HUMAN FORM

...Declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:4).

The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Now, that is an extraordinary statement because Jesus said so Himself, and when others referred to Him as the Son of God, He didn't deny; He affirmed it. But what does "Son of God" actually mean? I’ve explained it several times, but it bears repeating.

Son of God doesn't mean someone born by God in a literal sense. "Son of God" means God in human flesh. So, when Jesus said He was the Son of God, the Jewish people around him understood exactly what He meant. They were angry because they recognized that "Son of God" signifies God becoming a human being.

Therefore, they accused Jesus of blasphemy, saying, "You, being a man, make yourself equal with God." But that’s precisely who Jesus is, and His resurrection from the dead proves it. God became a man, took on flesh and lived among us to save us, that we might also become sons of God: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:12-13).

He brought us salvation and eternal life so that we can live like Him and be in fellowship with God. Now we can relate to God as His beloved children. We can talk to Him and He talks to us. He brought us into His class. He’s made us like Himself. 1 John 4:17 says, “...as He is, so are we in this world.” Now we too have become sons of God: “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God…” (1 John 3:1). Hallelujah!


Prayer / Confession
Dear Father, thank you for the revelation of Jesus Christ as the Son of God. He is God manifested in human flesh, and through His resurrection, you gave me eternal life and union with you. I live in the consciousness of this divine relationship, walking in bold fellowship and communion with you, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further study
John 1:14; John 10:30-36; 1 Timothy 3:16

1-year bible reading plan
1 Corinthians 15:1-34; Proverbs 5-7

2-year bible reading plan
Luke 20:1-8; 1 Samuel 19

Re: God In Human Form by mytrugistslog(op): 7:35am On Aug 31, 2025
Jesus is Lord! Embrace Him as Lord and Saviour today!
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Re: God In Human Form by abujamal: 8:29am On Aug 31, 2025
Jesus is lord, Jesus is son of God
Can somebody explain to us the difference between the two words?
Re: God In Human Form by AntiChristian: 8:31am On Aug 31, 2025
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!
Re: God In Human Form by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:31am On Aug 31, 2025
God almighty the creator of the universe cannot be in human form. The human form has limitation that cannot be attributed to God and it is against His nature.
Re: God In Human Form by Globad(f): 8:34am On Aug 31, 2025
It's disrespectful to the majesty of God to think that the omnipotent God could not get something done unless he had to descend into a lowly human form.

Up till today, it doesn't make sense in the older Judaism.

Such a thinking was concocted by Trinitarians and is not part of any statement directly credited to Jesus in the canonical gospels.

Of course the gospel of John and the writings of Paul are another matter entirely

Having split God into three, I don't know why Christianity is still being described as a monotheistic religion. It is a polytheistic religion
Re: God In Human Form by Globad(f): 8:36am On Aug 31, 2025
AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!
A God that passed through the birth canal of a woman and suckled the mammary glands of a woman

Oh my God!
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 8:36am On Aug 31, 2025
Conclusion

Based on the Greek text’s syntax and vocabulary:

Not "God" (as τὸν Θεόν): ὁ Λόγος is not presented as identical to τὸν Θεόν (the specific deity). The use of πρὸς τὸν Θεόν and the qualitative Θεὸς indicate distinction, with ὁ Λόγος being "with" the deity and sharing divine qualities, not being the deity itself.


Not clearly "a god": While Θεὸς could be translated as "a god," the anarthrous construction and context suggest a qualitative sense ("divine"wink rather than portraying ὁ Λόγος as a separate divine entity. The philosophical tone leans toward Λόγος as a principle with divine attributes, not a distinct "god."

Not "the same as the God": The text explicitly distinguishes ὁ Λόγος from τὸν Θεόν through πρὸς and the structure, ruling out identity.

The author portrays ὁ Λόγος as a distinct entity, existing in the beginning, in close relation to τὸν Θεόν (the deity), and possessing divine qualities (Θεὸς, "divine"wink.

The best translation, as previously provided, is: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the deity, the Word was divine. This was in the beginning with the deity." This reflects ὁ Λόγος as divine in nature but not identical to τὸν Θεόν.

JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 8:39am On Aug 31, 2025
Okay so please from that text can we say that the logos is God or a god or the same with the God?

Addressing the Question: Is ὁ Λόγος "God," "a god," or "the same as the God"?

Let’s evaluate each possibility based on the Greek text:

Is ὁ Λόγος "God" (as a proper noun or specific deity, i.e., τὸν Θεόν)?The phrase ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν ("the Word was with the deity"wink implies distinction between ὁ Λόγος and τὸν Θεόν. The preposition πρὸς suggests a relational proximity (e.g., being "with" or "alongside"wink rather than identity. If the author intended to say ὁ Λόγος is τὸν Θεόν (the specific deity), a direct equation like ὁ Λόγος ἦν ὁ Θεός or a different construction would be expected.

The clause Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος does not use the definite article with Θεὸς, suggesting a qualitative description ("divine"wink rather than identifying ὁ Λόγος as the specific deity (τὸν Θεόν). Thus, ὁ Λόγος is not presented as identical to "God" (i.e., τὸν Θεόν, the deity referenced).

Is ὁ Λόγος "a god"?

Translating Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος as "the Word was a god" is grammatically possible, as Θεὸς can mean "a god" or "deity" in Greek, especially in polytheistic or philosophical contexts where multiple divine beings are considered.

HOWEVER, the anarthrous Θεὸς in this construction typically emphasizes quality over individuality. Saying "a god" implies a separate divine entity, which could align with the distinction suggested by πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, but it risks implying a lesser or independent deity, which the text does not explicitly support.

The context of the passage, with ὁ Λόγος being "with the deity" (τὸν Θεόν) and described as Θεὸς (divine), suggests ὁ Λόγος shares divine qualities rather than being a distinct "god" in the sense of a separate divine being. The philosophical use of Λόγος (e.g., in Stoicism or Platonism) often portrays it as a principle or force, not a standalone deity.
Re: God In Human Form by Globad(f): 8:40am On Aug 31, 2025
NOETHNICITY:
God almighty the creator of the universe cannot be in human form. The human form has limitation that cannot be attributed to God and it is against His nature.
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 8:41am On Aug 31, 2025
ὅσοι δὲ ἔλαβον αὐτόν ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς ἐξουσίαν τέκνα θεοῦ γενέσθαι τοῖς πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ οἳ οὐκ ἐξ αἱμάτων οὐδὲ ἐκ θελήματος σαρκὸς οὐδὲ ἐκ θελήματος ἀνδρὸς ἀλλ' ἐκ θεοῦ ἐγεννήθησαν Καὶ ὁ λόγος σὰρξ ἐγένετο καὶ ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν καὶ ἐθεασάμεθα τὴν δόξαν αὐτοῦ δόξαν ὡς μονογενοῦς παρὰ πατρός πλήρης χάριτος καὶ ἀληθείας

Grok not only interpreted by stated roles

Literal Translation
"But as many as received him, he gave to them authority to become children of a deity, to those trusting in his name, who were born not from bloods, nor from the will of flesh, nor from the will of a man, but from a deity. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only one from a father, full of grace and truth."


Roles in Context

Building on the prior text’s roles

(ὁ Λόγος, τὸν Θεόν, Ἰωάνης):ὁ Λόγος (the Word):

Role: A divine-natured entity that becomes embodied and enables transformation.

Details: Grants "authority to become children of a deity" to those who "receive" him and "trust in his name," suggesting influence over human transformation or status.

Becomes "flesh" (σὰρξ ἐγένετο), taking on a physical or human form.

Dwells "among us" (ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν), indicating presence among humans.

Displays "glory" (δόξαν), likened to that of a "unique one from a father," characterized by "grace and truth."



τὸν Θεόν/θεοῦ (the deity/a deity):

Role: The divine source or origin, associated with ὁ Λόγος and human transformation.

Details:Previously described as distinct from ὁ Λόγος (πρὸς τὸν Θεόν) and the source of John’s mission (παρὰ Θεοῦ).
Here, the source from which "children" are born (ἐκ θεοῦ ἐγεννήθησαν), indicating a divine origin for those who receive ὁ Λόγος.

New Group: Those Who Received the Word:

Role: Humans who accept ὁ Λόγος and gain a new status.

Details:Those who "receive" (ἔλαβον) and "trust in his name" (πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ) are given "authority to become children of a deity" (τέκνα θεοῦ).

Their "birth" is not from physical means ("bloods," "will of flesh," "will of a man"wink but from a deity (ἐκ θεοῦ), suggesting a transformative process.
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 8:41am On Aug 31, 2025
gohf:
ὅσοι δὲ ἔλαβον αὐτόν ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς ἐξουσίαν τέκνα θεοῦ γενέσθαι τοῖς πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ οἳ οὐκ ἐξ αἱμάτων οὐδὲ ἐκ θελήματος σαρκὸς οὐδὲ ἐκ θελήματος ἀνδρὸς ἀλλ' ἐκ θεοῦ ἐγεννήθησαν Καὶ ὁ λόγος σὰρξ ἐγένετο καὶ ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν καὶ ἐθεασάμεθα τὴν δόξαν αὐτοῦ δόξαν ὡς μονογενοῦς παρὰ πατρός πλήρης χάριτος καὶ ἀληθείας

Grok not only interpreted by stated roles

Literal Translation
"But as many as received him, he gave to them authority to become children of a deity, to those trusting in his name, who were born not from bloods, nor from the will of flesh, nor from the will of a man, but from a deity. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only one from a father, full of grace and truth."


Roles in Context

Building on the prior text’s roles

(ὁ Λόγος, τὸν Θεόν, Ἰωάνης):ὁ Λόγος (the Word):

Role: A divine-natured entity that becomes embodied and enables transformation.

Details: Grants "authority to become children of a deity" to those who "receive" him and "trust in his name," suggesting influence over human transformation or status.

Becomes "flesh" (σὰρξ ἐγένετο), taking on a physical or human form.

Dwells "among us" (ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν), indicating presence among humans.

Displays "glory" (δόξαν), likened to that of a "unique one from a father," characterized by "grace and truth."



τὸν Θεόν/θεοῦ (the deity/a deity):

Role: The divine source or origin, associated with ὁ Λόγος and human transformation.

Details:Previously described as distinct from ὁ Λόγος (πρὸς τὸν Θεόν) and the source of John’s mission (παρὰ Θεοῦ).
Here, the source from which "children" are born (ἐκ θεοῦ ἐγεννήθησαν), indicating a divine origin for those who receive ὁ Λόγος.

New Group: Those Who Received the Word:

Role: Humans who accept ὁ Λόγος and gain a new status.

Details:Those who "receive" (ἔλαβον) and "trust in his name" (πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ) are given "authority to become children of a deity" (τέκνα θεοῦ).

Their "birth" is not from physical means ("bloods," "will of flesh," "will of a man"wink but from a deity (ἐκ θεοῦ), suggesting a transformative process.
Will those who receive a different form or type of logos described in this text also be transformed? A simple yes or no if possible

No

Re: God In Human Form by Zooposki(f): 8:42am On Aug 31, 2025
mytrugistslog:
Jesus is Lord! Embrace Him as Lord and Saviour today!
Hmm, ok na.

Seun needs 40 more characters for me to be able to post.

Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 8:47am On Aug 31, 2025
When false teachers like chris oyakinlome tell that because Jesus is the son of God he is God and tells you to be like him, he is telling you be God as well and that's not what Jesus and the apostles taught
Re: God In Human Form by Zaheertyler(m): 8:49am On Aug 31, 2025
Zooposki:
Hmm, ok na.

Seun needs 40 more characters for me to be able to post.
Lol….Christianity is spiritual
There’s more to it than just identification

Jesus revelation to creation and coming in the form of man is something that we all should be forever grateful for
Re: God In Human Form by Zooposki(f): 9:00am On Aug 31, 2025
Zaheertyler:
Lol….Christianity is spiritual
There’s more to it than just identification

Jesus revelation to creation and coming in the form of man is something that we all should be forever grateful for
Christianity is a religion like Islam and the others. Thd two biggest religion with the most followers are Christianity and Islam. Nothing spiritual there.
Re: God In Human Form by WantsandMore: 9:04am On Aug 31, 2025
mytrugistslog:
Rhapsody of Realities by Pastor Chris. Sun Aug 31 2025

GOD IN HUMAN FORM

...Declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:4).

The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Now, that is an extraordinary statement because Jesus said so Himself, and when others referred to Him as the Son of God, He didn't deny; He affirmed it. But what does "Son of God" actually mean? I’ve explained it several times, but it bears repeating.

Son of God doesn't mean someone born by God in a literal sense. "Son of God" means God in human flesh. So, when Jesus said He was the Son of God, the Jewish people around him understood exactly what He meant. They were angry because they recognized that "Son of God" signifies God becoming a human being.

Therefore, they accused Jesus of blasphemy, saying, "You, being a man, make yourself equal with God." But that’s precisely who Jesus is, and His resurrection from the dead proves it. God became a man, took on flesh and lived among us to save us, that we might also become sons of God: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:12-13).

He brought us salvation and eternal life so that we can live like Him and be in fellowship with God. Now we can relate to God as His beloved children. We can talk to Him and He talks to us. He brought us into His class. He’s made us like Himself. 1 John 4:17 says, “...as He is, so are we in this world.” Now we too have become sons of God: “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God…” (1 John 3:1). Hallelujah!


Prayer / Confession
Dear Father, thank you for the revelation of Jesus Christ as the Son of God. He is God manifested in human flesh, and through His resurrection, you gave me eternal life and union with you. I live in the consciousness of this divine relationship, walking in bold fellowship and communion with you, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further study
John 1:14; John 10:30-36; 1 Timothy 3:16

1-year bible reading plan
1 Corinthians 15:1-34; Proverbs 5-7

2-year bible reading plan
Luke 20:1-8; 1 Samuel 19
Son of God doesn't mean someone born by God in a literal sense. "Son of God" means God in human flesh. So, when Jesus said He was the Son of God, the Jewish people around him understood exactly what He meant. They were angry because they recognized that "Son of God" signifies God becoming a human being.


This is debatable.
Mathew 24:36
Mathew 18:26
…………………….
How do you justify the above verses?
Re: God In Human Form by Lukuluku69(m): 9:10am On Aug 31, 2025
When is God taking the Animal Form? Or has He taken that unknowest to us Humans?
Re: God In Human Form by erniok(m): 9:12am On Aug 31, 2025
AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!
The jews knew that God was coming in human flesh because it is in their scriptures. Study the scriptures.
Re: God In Human Form by erniok(m): 9:15am On Aug 31, 2025
Zooposki:
Christianity is a religion like Islam and the others. Thd two biggest religion with the most followers are Christianity and Islam. Nothing spiritual there.
How do you define religion that you boldly state that christianity is religion.
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 9:15am On Aug 31, 2025
erniok:
The jews knew that God was coming in human flesh because it is in their scriptures. Study the scriptures.
Why not share said scriptureS

By the way, hope you know what the septuagint is
Isa 9:6 LXX2012UK For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.
Re: God In Human Form by gohf: 9:18am On Aug 31, 2025
WantsandMore:
Son of God doesn't mean someone born by God in a literal sense. "Son of God" means God in human flesh. So, when Jesus said He was the Son of God, the Jewish people around him understood exactly what He meant. They were angry because they recognized that "Son of God" signifies God becoming a human being.


This is debatable.
Mathew 24:36
Mathew 18:26
…………………….
How do you justify the above verses?
if Jesus knew the Jews really understood what he said why did he then bother explaining the truth to them? They avoid this truth


Instead those people to listen to Jesus they choose to listen to the people who wanted to kill him (Luke.11.48 So you testify that you approve of what your forefathers did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs.)
Re: God In Human Form by erniok(m): 9:24am On Aug 31, 2025
Globad:
It's disrespectful to the majesty of God to think that the omnipotent God could not get something done unless he had to descend into a lowly human form.

Up till today, it doesn't make sense in the older Judaism.

Such a thinking was concocted by Trinitarians and is not part of any statement directly credited to Jesus in the canonical gospels.

Of course the gospel of John and the writings of Paul are another matter entirely

Having split God into three, I don't know why Christianity is still being described as a monotheistic religion. It is a polytheistic religion
If Judaism d9esnt recognize it, then from what is the prophet talking about in Isa.9:6
Re: God In Human Form by GABRIEL6036: 9:34am On Aug 31, 2025
Jesus is God and he will forever be... He is Alfa and Omega.
No one can see God the Father and live but he came to the world to show all attributes of God in flesh.

Redemption is very important to redeem man and Jesus came God in Human.

If a child is lurked around a wolf, it is the duty of the father to save the child from the wild wolf. If you understand this simple logic then you know who God is... He needs to come to the world to save men from Satanic enslavery.

He did not do all this to prove a point cos He is God but some aspect of life rules need to be followed.
Re: God In Human Form by erniok(m): 9:37am On Aug 31, 2025
gohf:
Why not share said scriptureS

By the way, hope you know what the septuagint is
Isa 9:6 LXX2012UK For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.
the septuagint is the ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew bible. The translators couldn't comprehend what the prophet was saying in that verse and chose to translate what they wanted. It was too much for them to believe that God was coming in human form.

Read Daniel's prophecy about the son of man that Jesus also called himself.
Re: God In Human Form by plessis: 9:47am On Aug 31, 2025
The bible said yahweh made man in his own image. Meaning man had an image before yahweh imposed his image on man.

Jesus is man in his unaltered image and abilities. But not son of yahweh as painted by the bible.
Re: God In Human Form by AngelahFlo(m): 9:52am On Aug 31, 2025
AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!
According to your moniker. This is Truth that will elude you until you decide to embrace it.
Re: God In Human Form by plessis: 9:53am On Aug 31, 2025
gohf:
When false teachers like chris oyakinlome tell that because Jesus is the son of God he is God and tells you to be like him, he is telling you be God as well and that's not what Jesus and the apostles taught
What then did christ mean in the scripture John 10:34?
Re: God In Human Form by BodyCount: 9:55am On Aug 31, 2025
God can NEVER BE OR COME IN HUMAN FORM

You people should stop deceiving YOURSELVES .
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