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Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! - Christianity Etc (2) - Nairaland

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Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Jashub: 10:24am On Aug 27, 2025
Truthseeker10:
You claim Jesus went to sheol to preach to people when Ecclesiastics 9:10 Clearly states that there is no activity or knowledge in sheol. Can you kindly show us from the Bible where 1 Peter 3:18-20 mentions sheol?
Oga , stop embarrassing yourself . Sheol is the grave or better known as the realm of the dead. It is hebrew. And that verse refers to Jesus preaching to them(the saints of old ). Just go and read your bible ...except you're from Charles Russel Taze( aka JW) that believes that Jesus is angel Michael grin
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truthseeker10:
Jashub:
Oga , stop embarrassing yourself . Sheol is the grave or better known as the realm of the dead. It is hebrew. And that verse refers to Jesus preaching to them(the saints of old ). Just go and read your bible ...except you're from Charles Russel Taze( aka JW) that believes that Jesus is angel Michael grin
lol...So Ecclesiastics 9:10 is lying that sheol is a place of inactivity and no knowledge?

Are you also saying that 1 peter 3:19 is telling us that spirits of people go to the grave?

Are you unable to show us where sheol is mentioned in 1 Peter 3:18-20?

What is the Greek word for sheol since sheol is an hebrew word?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 10:06am On Aug 31, 2025
AntiisIam:
Whenever you want to talk about his death, you must also talk about his resurrection. He died for three days to gathered old testament saints, described as being in Abraham's Bosom, leading them into heaven and signifying a new covenant that extended salvation to those who had died before his sacrifice. While all these are ongoing, the father that sent him is in control of everything


Bobo, why is Muomo greater than allah? He never claimed is greater than Allah or you show us where you see it

but you said Jesus is God and now is a messanger send by another God🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does Christianity like this ...
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Brenbentondiaz: 11:46am On Aug 31, 2025
You as a Christian, are greater than Moses, Elijah and those other Old Testament prophets. That was what Christ was saying there. He was not specifically talking about GOs. He was talking about every true child of God (which may include the names you listed, if they're true christians). And, you're making the mistake of vouching for men. Lolz.
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 12:10pm On Aug 31, 2025
Expanse2020:
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but you said Jesus is God and now is a messanger send by another God🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does Christianity like this ...
Koye e nii and that's why allah in quran said you should question Christians and Jews

Jesus Christ is God, he is the word of the father that came in human form. We read this about your Isa that Quran said he is the word of God and the spirit of God

Jesus Christ is the word of the father that manifested in flesh. This means you can't separate Jesus Christ from the father. Father is in Jesus Christ same also as Jesus Christ is in the father, IS THAT CLEAR?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truthseeker10: 1:41pm On Aug 31, 2025
Brenbentondiaz:
You as a Christian, are greater than Moses, Elijah and those other Old Testament prophets. That was what Christ was saying there. He was not specifically talking about GOs. He was talking about every true child of God (which may include the names you listed, if they're true christians). And, you're making the mistake of vouching for men. Lolz.
What makes Christians greater than them?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 4:29pm On Aug 31, 2025
AntiisIam:
Koye e nii and that's why allah in quran said you should question Christians and Jews

Jesus Christ is God, he is the word of the father that came in human form. We read this about your Isa that Quran said he is the word of God and the spirit of God

Jesus Christ is the word of the father that manifested in flesh. This means you can't separate Jesus Christ from the father. Father is in Jesus Christ same also as Jesus Christ is in the father, IS THAT CLEAR?
Ehen so Quran said it's God spirit 😂😂😂😂
Ehen and Quran said we should asked from you ehene
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 4:40pm On Aug 31, 2025
Expanse2020:
Ehen so Quran said it's God spirit 😂😂😂😂
Ehen and Quran said we should asked from you ehene
Quran said your Isa is the word and spirit of allah nah..

The same quran said you should question we Christians that are reading the Bible

Quran 10:94

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;


So if you (O Muhammad SAW) are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed unto you, (i.e. that your name is written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) then ask those who are reading the Book (the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) before you. Verily, the truth has come to you from your Lord. So be not of those who doubt (it)
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 8:45pm On Sep 01, 2025
AntiisIam:
Quran said your Isa is the word and spirit of allah nah..

The same quran said you should question we Christians that are reading the Bible

Quran 10:94

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;


So if you (O Muhammad SAW) are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed unto you, (i.e. that your name is written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) then ask those who are reading the Book (the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) before you. Verily, the truth has come to you from your Lord. So be not of those who doubt (it)
You run away from the question
You said Jesus is God
When your God die who took control

On Christianity how many Gods you serve swlf
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 8:53pm On Sep 01, 2025
Expanse2020:
You run away from the question
You said Jesus is God
When your God die who took control

On Christianity how many Gods you serve swlf
I've answered your question already but the problem is you can't comprehend

Go back and read this again but this time around, read it gently

Antii:
Whenever you want to talk about his death, you must also talk about his resurrection. He died for three days to gathered old testament saints, described as being in Abraham's Bosom, leading them into heaven and signifying a new covenant that extended salvation to those who had died before his sacrifice. While all these are ongoing, the father that sent him is in control of everything
God is ONE, we serve ONLY ONE God. Sebi you know the different between God and Gods?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 10:16pm On Sep 01, 2025
AntiisIam:
I've answered your question already but the problem is you can't comprehend

Go back and read this again but this time around, read it gently



God is ONE, we serve ONLY ONE God. Sebi you know the different between God and Gods?
Ehen
But your God dead and wake up after 3days
Your God was killed by what he made
This is so funny
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 10:31pm On Sep 01, 2025
Expanse2020:
Ehen
But your God dead and wake up after 3days
Your God was killed by what he made
This is so funny
Sule listen, nobody has power to kill him, he surrendered himself nii but I love the fact that you said he resurrected on the third day.

In the history of mankind tell me anyone that died and resurrected, alive as we speak today?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 11:19pm On Sep 01, 2025
AntiisIam:
Sule listen, nobody has power to kill him, he surrendered himself nii but I love the fact that you said he resurrected on the third day.

In the history of mankind tell me anyone that died and resurrected, alive as we speak today?
No body had power to kill him but they beat him like mad and fed him sponge shit (poison) before he gave up the ghost right..
Werey
What of gbenga Adeboye he died and resurrected countless of people have died and resurrected...
Even Lazarus died and resurrected
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 12:28am On Sep 02, 2025
Expanse2020:
No body had power to kill him but they beat him like mad and fed him sponge shit (poison) before he gave up the g
What of gbenga Adeboye he died and resurrected countless of people have died and resurrected...
Even Lazarus died and resurrected
Sule, o nti ba e ni Akinyemi ara, see the name you called una dadd

Boya ko lo google, read it again

In the history of mankind tell me anyone that died and resurrected, alive as we speak today?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 11:07am On Sep 02, 2025
Expanse2020:
No body had power to kill him but they beat him like mad and fed him sponge shit (poison) before he gave up the ghost right..
Werey
What of gbenga Adeboye he died and resurrected countless of people have died and resurrected...
Even Lazarus died and resurrected
Ewo ninu awon ara Ile e ni

W
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E
Y ??
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Expanse2020(m): 10:35am On Sep 03, 2025
AntiisIam:
Ewo ninu awon ara Ile e ni

W
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R
E
Y ??
Weyrey was shocked
He can't comprehend the answer 🤣😂😂
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:33am On Sep 03, 2025
Brenbentondiaz:
You as a Christian, are greater than Moses, Elijah and those other Old Testament prophets. That was what Christ was saying there. He was not specifically talking about GOs. He was talking about every true child of God (which may include the names you listed, if they're true christians). And, you're making the mistake of vouching for men. Lolz.
Highlighted is true because none of those people knew what Jesus later exhibited in his thoughts, words and actions! John 1:18
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by AntiisIam(m): 11:56am On Sep 03, 2025
Expanse2020:
Weyrey was shocked
He can't comprehend the answer 🤣😂😂
Baba e nii

W
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Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truvelisback(m): 11:26pm On Sep 03, 2025
Daejumong:
Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye, Gbile Akanni and Ayo Babalola are greater than Moses,Elijah,Elisha,Isaiah and other icons in the Old Testament!

If u examine the lives of the prophets in the Old Testament, did they really live a holy life? Were they sanctified? Did they really kill their flesh and die to self?

Jesus said every born again Christian is greater than John the Baptist, Elijah,Elisha,Moses and other prophets in the Old Testament!

Matthew 11
11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he

Why John the Baptist was the greatest of his time:
-He was a great prophet who prepared the way for the Messiah(Christ).
-He was predicted in the Old Testament and stood closest to the Messiah(Jesus).

Why the least in the Kingdom is greater than John:

-New Covenant Privileges
Believers in the Kingdom are "born again" and have received the Holy Spirit, an experience beyond John the Baptist's Old Testament era.

-Full Revelation of God's Plan:
They have seen the full work of Christ, including his crucifixion and resurrection, which John did not live to see.

-Born Again Status:
Through faith in Jesus, believers are declared righteous and become "Sons of God," a status that elevates them above even John, who was still considered "born of women".

Every born again,heaven conscious, child of God is Greater than the Prophets of Old by virtue of the privilege of accepting Christ and becoming transformed to Sons of God and not servants !

Dae Jumong
What is your Parameter for greatness? What makes you think every born again is greater than them?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:55am On Sep 04, 2025
Truvelisback:
What is your Parameter for greatness? What makes you think every born again is greater than them?
Greatness was explained by God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
He said:
Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. Matthew 11:11
From the statement above Jesus clearly analyzed what greatness means in God's sight. From Abel till John the baptist (for these are righteous people whose existence came by birth through women) none of them is greater than John the baptist but the lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens (Born Again Christians who will be taken to heaven as Christ's corulers) are greater than John the baptist!
So it's clear that Born Again Christians are the greatest of all humans that is what Jesus said!
But the question is:
Who are truly Born Again Christians?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truvelisback(m): 3:53pm On Sep 04, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Greatness was explained by God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
He said:
Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. Matthew 11:11
From the statement above Jesus clearly analyzed what greatness means in God's sight. From Abel till John the baptist (for these are righteous people whose existence came by birth through women) none of them is greater than John the baptist but the lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens (Born Again Christians who will be taken to heaven as Christ's corulers) are greater than John the baptist!
So it's clear that Born Again Christians are the greatest of all humans that is what Jesus said!
But the question is:
Who are truly Born Again Christians?
Humblest christian is the greates.

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Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:53pm On Sep 04, 2025
Truvelisback:
Humblest christian is the greates.
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Jesus said the least in the kingdom of the heavens! Matthew 11:11
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truvelisback(m): 6:00pm On Sep 04, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said the least in the kingdom of the heavens! Matthew 11:11
Who is the least in the kingdom of God? What does it mean to be least? grin
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:14pm On Sep 04, 2025
Truvelisback:
Who is the least in the kingdom of God? What does it mean to be least? grin
There is a difference!
Jesus said the kingdom of the heavens not the kingdom of God. Matthew 11:11
If you want to know the difference between the two i will expatiate but if you don't want to know it's OK.
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Truvelisback(m): 6:22am On Sep 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
There is a difference!
Jesus said the kingdom of the heavens not the kingdom of God. Matthew 11:11
If you want to know the difference between the two i will expatiate but if you don't want to know it's OK.
What's the difference between the two?
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On Sep 05, 2025
Truvelisback:
What's the difference between the two?
When Jesus came to the earth his assigned duty regarding preaching was to gather 144,000 in Israel which means 12,000 out of each tribe this people will become his corulers they are the only people who are to sit with him during his 1,000 years reign so each time he is talking about His kingdom and this fold he refers to them as members of the kingdom of heaven! Matthew 5:3

That is why he first sent his disciples to go only to Israelites because that's where the 144,000 was supposed to be gotten but as at the time he walked the earth only Jews were still active with the scriptures Samaritans who were also Israelites had derailed so Jesus specifically ordered his twelve disciples to go and speak with the Jews! Matthew 10:6

So had it been Jesus was able to get all his 144,000 corulers among the Israelites the invitation wouldn't have been extended to other nations {Matthew 22:8-9} the 144,000 supposed to be the first set of the kingdom Jesus referred to them as his first set of sheep and their reward will be in heaven! Matthew 5:3

The second fold will come through the active preaching of this first fold because they are supposed to carry Jesus' message to all other nations {Matthew 28:19-20} gathering people in millions as subjects of God's government. That's why Jesus called the people of the nations who will later become his disciples the other sheep {John 10:16} in the Bible book of Revelations they are the great crowd that appeared after the 144,000 spiritual sheep! Revelations 7:9
These are the ones who will inherit the kingdom of God because God's Kingdom under Christ's reign will bring them a lot of benefits so Jesus said they will inherit Paradise earth! Matthew 5:5

So the difference is 144,000 corulers with Christ are the ones having the Kingdom of heavens {Matthew 5:3} while their earthly subjects will inherit the kingdom of God on planet earth! Matthew 5:5
Re: Pastors Kumuyi, Adeboye And Ayo Babalola Greater Than Moses,elijah And Elisha! by Gabrielshow24: 10:11am On Sep 05, 2025
Truvelisback:
What is your Parameter for greatness? What makes you think every born again is greater than them?
It's based on some misinformed law of transitivity 😅 completely ignoring context. See below:
JohnTB > Moses
JohnTB = least_in_heaven
Or Modern_Day_Believers > JohnTB😂
Ergo, Modern_Day_Believers > Moses(etc.)

That's the wayo logic they have used for themselves.
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