₦airaland Forum

DMerciful:
Trying to balance the tragedy by going back to hundreds of years ago just to include Christianity is to treat the issue with levity!

This is not a supremacy of religions contest but a need to speak truth to the Islamic leaders to stop theor radical members from fighting for Allah or Mohd

What you call happening hundreds of years in Europe is what is happening presently here, which my mentioning it have made you all upset. So, how do we also bring an end to it.

Softmirror:
You are starting to comprehend what I have been talking about. Hence, it is your duty too.

Now you're trying to be half as smart and i will intentionally fall for that manipulation for just a minute only.
But you know within yourself killing in the name of Allah makes absolutely no sense today in the 21st century.
And I honestly know it will be difficult for you to speak the truth to them make we no lose you too to lynching.
But pls and pls when we see bad things it is better to be mute than try to justify evil.
Can anyone live in Nigeria today as a Christian without relating with traditionalist and Muslims?
And vice versa,except you are always indoors.
Like i always say let love lead,those prophets did their best through teachings in making today better, let's also do our best in making tomorrow much more better.

It is not happening in Christianity but Islam so why do you water it down by spreading this anomaly to both major religion?

Clearly, you're trying to be mischievous

Softmirror:
What you call happening hundreds of years in Europe is what is happening presently here, which my mentioning it have made you all upset. So, how do we also bring an end to it.

11doubledee:

Now you're trying to be half as smart and i will fall for that manipulation for just a minute.
But you know within yourself killing in the name of Allah makes absolutely no sense today in the 21st century.
And I honestly know it will be difficult for you to speak the truth to them make we no lose you too to lynching.
But pls and pls when we see bad things it is better to be mute than try to justify evil.
Can anyone live in Nigeria today as a Christian without relating with babalawo and Muslims?
And vice versa,except you are always indoors.
Like i always say let love lead,those prophets did their best through teachings in making today better let's also do our best in making tomorrow much more better.

Where have I made any justification? If there is kindly quote it here for the whole world to see. I have only presented a sad trend and pattern as to why people of religion kill innocent souls. That was my first comment which seems not to go down well with all of you.

Softmirror:
I did that on purpose because aiming at the context which is you will never find Muslims killing anyone by alledging that they are witches. It is a Christian beliefs that is very historical even in far Europe let alone Africa. Such is rampant in the Southern part of the country that is predominantly Christian. Pay more attention.

Killing a witch is not a Christian thing. If a witch confesses even in places that the people aren't Christian they will likely still kill the witch.

DMerciful:
It is not happening in Christianity but Islam so why do you water it down by spreading this anomaly to both major religion?

Clearly, you're trying to be mischievous

Anomaly?! Of course that is the point I am making.

Alright then.

Softmirror:
According to people of your like minds.

WizardOfNG:
I am yet to hear of a case to do with Christians killing over blasphemy againt their God.

You cannot compare killings by Christians commited over superstitious fear, which is rare and condemned in the South anyway and will be punished severely, to killings over blasphemy in the North that is common, casually endorsed/approved by most Northerners at all levels of society and therefore goes unpunished.

Two very seperate things. Kill in the South over religion and you will be arrested, charged for murder in a competent Court of law and jailed.

Same occurrence in over-religious North, where the view that killing in defence of Islam is just and fitting, carries no consequences for the offender. That is wrong and condemnable.

The North must criminalise the practice, as is the case with the South , and I believe you should understand the need to respect the sanctity of human life must be consistent across Nigeria otherwise it is a good case for the North and South to be seperate nations.

Different people and regions of a nation should not have separate and contradictory viewpoint over fundamentally important issues such as societal endorsement of what is universally condemnable i.e casual killings of our fellow human beings.
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You can also tell your Christian brothers and sisters to learn to curb their mouths by not instigating violence through their blasphemous words because it takes two to tangle and Muslims can only take so much.

Softmirror:
Where have I made any justification? If there is kindly quote it here for the whole world to see. I have only presented a sad trend and pattern as to why people of religion kill innocent souls. That was my first comment which seems not to go down well with all of you.

There is no reason to make this about semantics at this point,you very much understand me.
What is bad is bad!

11doubledee:
There is no reason to make this about semantics at this point,you very much understand me.
What is bad is bad!

As you can see, you cannot prove your assertion that I am trying to justify killings in the name of religion.

There is no justification!

Dem Assassination DAT WOMAN
Nah their papa set d law
May her soul rest in peace

Softmirror:
Lol 😂. It is very ingrained which Christianity than Islam. This is a fact!

I have as well stated that you won't find Christians killing in the name of blasphemy. But you all failed to see that.

Sorry, for telling you the truth.

Lol Fact? Do you even know what fact is?
You brought an unverified NL link about witchcraft murder in Calabar to accuse Christianity of being responsible for killing of witches

I brought two verified links from responsible media outlets of Muslims killing people accused of witchcraft

And you still say facts support your false claims?

Can you bring statistics to back up this your claim or should we just accept it as the usual tqiyya

You should apologise for lying against Christians

Softmirror:
Do a case study of those who hunt and kill witches. They are mostly Christians.

Have you done it? Can you share your statistics with us abi na just taqqi

Softmirror:
Simply means you are not a problem solver. Lol 😂

How many cases of blasphemy by Muslims do you find in Southern Nigeria compared to the North?! Why?!

Because southern Muslims are fake Muslims according to the North. And that's a fact!

Softmirror:
Why is it not happening in the South, are there no Muslims?!

They'll be deterrent when you know there are consequences for your actions. Same can not be about the North as regards "blasphemy". I believe you know what you're doing, but just want to sound ridiculous.
If what happened to Deborah happened in the south, be assured that all the perpetrators will never experience freedom in their remaining existence.

Softmirror:
As you can see, you cannot prove your assertion that I am trying to justify killings in the name of religion.

There is no justification!

Do you support the killing of a human being in the name of islam?
Let's start with this question.

Softmirror:
Wrong! I never admitted that what happened is lawful or have supported it. If I did please kindly show me.

I only made reference to another reason why proof religion kill innocent people. Which I don't understand why you are all upset.

I'm upset because you just spread falsehood against Christianity. Why did you have to drag Christianity into the murderous nature of your brothers with a lie?
Have you no shame? This might be a faceless nature of monikers here might allow folks to be unhinged and uncouth but even the dogs should have a bit of decorum when barking.
Looking to drag Christianity in a bid to forestall the possible dragging of Islam using a lie just makes your Islam looks much worse than it already is
It makes it seem as if Islam wouldn't survive without lies

Poisonousman:
Seun


This guy softmirror is one of the wicked and heartless people you are harbouring in nairaland?

It is sad that you still don't want to take corrections..

. They're plenty like that, you spose know dem..they never get banned or their useless comments deleted, that Zero8zero, softmirror, jayhome, helinues, omenka, antichristian, madridguy, if you know this set monikers, they never disappoint with their comments

stuffs2002:
You can also tell your Christian brothers and sisters to learn to curb their mouths by not instigating violence through their blasphemous words because it takes two to tangle and Muslims can only take so much.

No one should be killed over blasphemy against a religion. As simple as that. What is done in Nigeria is condemned worldwide and attract serious punishment. Mere words,however offensive, warrants execution how?

It is the North keeping Nigeria backwards since they simply refuse to move into the modern age, as Turkey and Saudi Arabia etal have done, while your kind abet their madness because you do not understand societies must bravely challenge and reject barbaric behaviour, to grow and thrive, rather than tolerate or make excuses for such..

Softmirror:
What you call happening hundreds of years in Europe is what is happening presently here, which my mentioning it have made you all upset. So, how do we also bring an end to it.

Ok. Assuming you are able to bring an end to it in the South. How do you intend to do so in the North? You see why lying is not good now?
Only an ignoramus will claim Africans learnt killing of witches from Europeans. That's the dumbest thing I ever heard and I've sure heard a lot of dumb things
Muhammad ordered in the hadith that a sorcerer must be killed. I hope you're aware of that fact
See

According to a tradition of Imam as-Sadiq (a.s.): "The sorcerer must be given a single blow of the sword on his head.”(al-Kāfi)

“If two just witnesses testify, it is permissible to kill him.” (TahzÄ«b)

Imam (a.s.) also said, that the Holy Prophet (S) ordered,

“The Muslim sorcerer must be killed and the infidel magician must not be killed.”
Someone asked, “O Messenger of Allah, why shouldn’t the disbelieving sorcerer be killed too?”
The Messenger of Allah (S) replied, “Because disbelief is a more serious sin than magic; and sorcery and polytheism are the same.”

What a shame and this is the same place bandits are having free day killing people yet they couldn't do anything it is only an innocent and helpless woman they could flex their muscle on.

Killing people by bandits may not really bother them it's like we are the ones bothered.
Did these people really deserve any sympathies from a sane society.

BetterScottish:
. They're plenty like that, you spose know dem..they never get banned or their useless comments deleted, that Zero8zero, softmirror, jayhome, helinues, omenka, antichristian, madridguy, if you know this set monikers, they never disappoint with their comments

There is absolutely no reason why I can get banned. Why?! Because I stated a trend and pattern of killings in Nigeria?!

Kukutente23:
Ok. Assuming you are able to bring an end to it in the South. How do you intend to do so in the North? You see why lying is not good now?
Only an ignoramus will claim Africans learnt killing of witches from Europeans. That's the dumbest thing I ever heard and I've sure heard a lot of dumb things
Muhammad ordered in the hadith that a sorcerer must be killed. I hope you're aware of that fact
See

What is the difference between a sorcerer and a witch are they the same?!

And did the Prophet ever ordered a mob attack? If it should be done?

What a secular country!

I cry for my beloved country!

Kukutente23:
I'm upset because you just spread falsehood against Christianity. Why did you have to drag Christianity into the murderous nature of your brothers with a lie?
Have you no shame? This might be a faceless nature of monikers here might allow folks to be unhinged and uncouth but even the dogs should have a bit of decorum when barking.
Looking to drag Christianity in a bid to forestall the possible dragging of Islam using a lie just makes your Islam looks much worse than it already is
It makes it seem as if Islam wouldn't survive without lies

Lol 😂. There is no lies it the practice of killing witches which is very synonymous with Christians than it is with Muslims despite the Hadith you have quoted. That's just the truth.

WizardOfNG:
No one should be killed over blasphemy against a religion. As simple as that. What is done in Nigeria is condemned worldwide and attract serious punishment. Mere words,however offensive, warrants execution how?

It is the North keeping Nigeria backwards since they simply refuse to move into the modern age, as Turkey and Saudi Arabia etal have done, while your kind abet their madness because you do not understand societies must bravely challenge and reject barbaric behaviour, to grow and thrive, rather than tolerate or make excuses for such..

Abegi... Go and sit down.

E be like say eye dey pain you. Where in my post did I say anyone should be killed for saying anything? Why is it so difficult for Christians to not insult Muslims and Islam? Why can't you tell your people to keep their mouths away from Islam and Muslims? Why are you defending your unruly Christian brothers and sisters?

Everyone knows Muslims don't joke with their religion yet you chose to stoke up a fight knowing fully well the implications and will now cry victim when the fire consumed you.

Do you even know it is a crime to incite religious unrest in Nigeria and a person may be tried and jailed for incitement

Softmirror:
Lol 😂. There is no lies it the practice of killing witches which is very synonymous with Christians than it is with Muslims despite the Hadith you have quoted. That's just the truth.

That's a lie
The fact is that killing of witches is sanctioned in Islam unlike in Christianity which makes Muslims have a right to kill witches unlike Christianity where it will be a sin
See hadith to back it up

According to a tradition of Imam as-Sadiq (a.s.): "The sorcerer must be given a single blow of the sword on his head.”(al-Kāfi)

“If two just witnesses testify, it is permissible to kill him.” (TahzÄ«b)

Imam (a.s.) also said, that the Holy Prophet (S) ordered,

“The Muslim sorcerer must be killed and the infidel magician must not be killed.”
Someone asked, “O Messenger of Allah, why shouldn’t the disbelieving sorcerer be killed too?”
The Messenger of Allah (S) replied, “Because disbelief is a more serious sin than magic; and sorcery and polytheism are the same.”

Kukutente23:
That's a lie
The fact is that killing of witches is sanctioned in Islam unlike in Christianity which makes Muslims have a right to kill witches unlike Christianity where it will be a sin
See hadith to back it up

Exodus 22:18

WizardOfNG:
Mob burns Nigerian woman to death for alleged blasphemy.

Chris Ewokor BBC News in Abuja



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y21zxyd6mo

Same religion they want to spread in SouthEast region. Jokers. Islam is a religion of peace.