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appleous:
The same people who betrayed you 10 years ago are the same people asking you to come run again.

!0 years later and you still wont have sense and a mind of your own?

Givedemwotowoto see dz comment above.
The conspiracy that made you dislike those you described in ya post and called dem chameleon was actually etched by people appleous described. Fear noooooortth.

fxexperts:
Their was never a time he promised to do one term, you should not say something you have no proof of.

Tinubu never betrayed Jonathan because Tinubu was never meant to be loyal to GEJ at any point in time he was always the opposition. The people who betrayed GEJ are Ameachi, Atiku, Tambulwa, Saraki, El Rufai and co.

Check previous post...Tinubu was never in pdp

The Gej's 2015 Mistake, singular mistake or error of that era is Obasanjo. Nothing more or less to it .

The strongest man out of executive power in Nigeria history at that era was Obj . Mr Gej could have used wisdom to bring the man in and closer to himself in pursuance of his 2015 ambition but what did he did? . He discarded Obj like a tissue paper, immediately that one assisted him with 2011 victory. Two things Gej did were: 1) Discredit obj role in his ascendancy to executive power by blocking his direct access to the presidency. 11) Surrounding himself with political featherweight, minions, praise singers and more importantly listening to social media by panning to their request that obj influence ( 3rd term Agenda man )must be discarded .
Unknown to Gej, the political hawks were happy and eyeing his seat at the corner and when 2015 battle came, there was no strong battlefield General amongs His inner circle that can prosecute or procure a victory again . The president became an orphan for his reelection having discarded his godfather in politics.

OneCandleAway:
Show us the agreement .

Why should the north who doesn't contribute anything to the national purse have to dictate to south that funds the whole country . The south south that their oil is what we export major to share the proceeds to the whole country should even have special privileges.

How market now?
Some pple like to settle for less

LegacyB:
Another ex President story for the gods. If you did well during your tenure you would have won the election simple. Betrayed or not your government was terrible too. QED.

You will be a clown to think we have ever held any real presidential election in this country.

givedemwotowoto:
GEJ is referring to the same group of people we all know about. The people who praised Buhari as the best for 8 years, then condemned him as the worst as soon as he handed over.

Whenever you hear backstabbing/betrayal, it’s always this same group of people. They’re online 24/7 using Amaechi’s laptops for propaganda. United by hate against Igbos, and chameleons by nature.

..game over..

themanderon:
You will be a clown to think we have ever held any real presidential election in this country.

From what you’re saying , we can say Jonathan too benefited from that same “no real Presidential election “ if so why are you crying foul then?

RolexOfGeneva:
You can't get a PhD and be a well known senior lecturer in a top University if you are not intelligent.

A fundamental mistake we make in Nigeria is to equate academic qualifications with intelligence. There are mechanics who are more intelligent than many PHD holders.

You are not intelligent simply because you have a degree or a PhD. As PHD does not make you intelligent. It only means you have acquired the minimum knowledge to qualify for a degree in that particular area. You can get a bachelors degree getting D grades throughout university. The higher your degree ( bachelor, masters, PhD, the higher your depth of knowledge). Knowledge and intelligence are not the same thing.

Let’s give an example. That you know that a seed becomes a plant is knowledge. Unintelligent people know that too. You go a step further and you learn that if you cross breed a hybrid of the plant is created. What you have done is deepened your knowledge. Your intelligence or lack of is still the same. Intelligence is the application of knowledge and the ability to think logically and critically. Being knowledgeable in specific subject is called being learned!



An academic degree at best means you are a subject area specialist. An intelligent person can apply his intelligence to issues beyond his area or expertise. There are countless PhD holders who once they speak outside their subject area you wonder if they attended secondary school

Secondly university of PH was a top university, rivers state university was second tier. Remmember even Wike said it on TV. Those who were around at the time know that you went to a state university only because you did not good enough grades to go to unilag , UI, Ife, ABU etc. and you were a permanent lecturer at these universities only because you didn’t make the grade for employment as a lecturer at the top universities. The top professors from the top universities taught part time as a means of making money. It was the leftovers that became permanent lecturers at state universities.

RolexOfGeneva:
You're talking nonsense. In 2015, I bought a bag of rice was just 12k and everyone could afford it. Today people can't go near rice again.

Not to speak for APC cos they are part of the problems , but what you’re telling us now is that the government of Jonathan did everything right to keep your bag of rice at that price? Foodie!

LegacyB:
From what you’re saying , we can say Jonathan too benefited from that same “no real Presidential election “ if so why are you crying foul then?

Where did I cry foul?

Tochi360:
Nigerians on the streets dont give a flying fvck about this your Zombie scheme 😁. In real life the average,Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Edo, Calabar, Tiv etc just want this Tpain to carry him own tinubulation and go

The man is a very big problem to doing business in Nigeria,he is the biggest stronghold and threat to SMEs in Nigeria.
This is a reality you can't comprehend bcus you nor kukuma get work 😁😁 watin you dey do for real life? You nor dey use fuel, diesel,gas,light,you nor dey run logistics for business? expenses?you nor dey go market?

Politicians wey you mention them nor dey follow Nigerians suffer this tinubulation

Before you do the normal what did Peter Obi achieve as Governor zombism 😁 Obi performed so well, Happiness just full Anambra State,under Obi the safest place to be in Nigeria was Anambra

Unrepentant wailing, very funny.

casualobserver:
A fundamental mistake we make in Nigeria is to equate academic qualifications with intelligence. There are mechanics who are more intelligent than many PHD holders.

You are not intelligent simply because you have a degree or a PhD. As PHD does not make you intelligent. It only means you have acquired the minimum knowledge to qualify for a degree in that particular area. You can get a bachelors degree getting D grades throughout university. The higher your degree ( bachelor, masters, PhD, the higher your depth of knowledge). Knowledge and intelligence are not the same thing.

Let’s give an example. That you know that a seed becomes a plant is knowledge. Unintelligent people know that too. You go a step further and you learn that if you cross breed a hybrid of the plant is created. What you have done is deepened your knowledge. Your intelligence or lack of is still the same. Intelligence is the application of knowledge and the ability to think logically and critically. Being knowledgeable in specific subject is called being learned!



An academic degree at best means you are a subject area specialist. An intelligent person can apply his intelligence to issues beyond his area or expertise. There are countless PhD holders who once they speak outside their subject area you wonder if they attended secondary school

Secondly university of PH was a top university, rivers state university was second tier. Remmember even Wike said it on TV. Those who were around at the time know that you went to a state university only because you did not good enough grades to go to unilag , UI, Ife, ABU etc. and you were a permanent lecturer at these universities only because you didn’t make the grade for employment as a lecturer at the top universities. The top professors from the top universities taught part time as a means of making money. It was the leftovers that became permanent lecturers at state universities.

Don't ever say such thing again. if you aren't intelligent, how will you graduate from the University without bribing your way out especially in highly mentally demanding STEM courses like Quantum mechanics, Programming, Engineering and Mathematics?

RolexOfGeneva:
Don't ever say such thing again. if you aren't intelligent, how will you graduate from the University without bribing your way out especially in highly mentally demanding STEM courses like Quantum mechanics, Programming, Engineering and Mathematics?

Jesus wept! That you fail to understand what I just said just proves that not all graduates are intelligent.

Learning a subject is not proof of intelligence. To get a degree you need to get 40%. 40% is below average 50% is average! 40% means you failed 3 out of 5 questions or think about it this way will you say a person who failed 60% of the questions is intelligent?

You can get a pass degree in some countries with 36%. Ponder on that for a second. Someone wh0 failed in 64% of this questions has a degree. Similarly there are people whose phD dissertations are cited and game changing and there are those whose PHD work is never cited. There are lecturers who never become professors and there are lecturers who become professors in 5 years. They both have phDs Are they equal?

Let is consider a graduate with a 2:2. It means he scored 50%. He passed only half the questions. Which means there is a 50% chance he doesn’t know what he is talking about. Or he remmembered the basics but couldn’t answer the questions that required application of the knowledge. Are you willing to put the structural design of your skyscraper in his hands in the belief that he is intelligent because he has a degree?

You know the procedure for multiplication for example and practice it does not make you intelligent.

Plus I did not say graduates are not intelligent, I said not all graduates or phD holders are intelligent. They are learned. They are not necessarily intelligent.

In fact in western countries where this education and language we copy comes from, , they won’t call you intelligent because you have a degree, they would refer you you as learned or lettered.

It is only in Nigeria that we automatically refer to someone with a degree or phd as intelligent

As you can see below, intelligence is the application of knowledge. Knowledge does not make you intelligent. A degree just means you have knowledge.

A degree is evidence of the acquisition of knowledge ina subject area but without intelligence requires the ability to apply that knowledge and to think abstractly, critically and logically. Nigeria has a lot of degree holders who can’t apply their knowledge.

Intelligence is something you have whether you went to school or not. You don’t become intelligent because you went to school or got degrees.

Finally there are different types of intelligence. Academic intelligence, emotional intelligence, social intelligence, cultural intelligence, political intelligence. Even if you have academic intelligence it does not mean you have the others. For examples nerds are usually very good programmers but may be social misfits because they lack social intelligence.

In Nigeria in particular academics and technocrats no matter the intelligence they may have displayed in their areas of competence, often lack political intelligence. Because the intelligence required for Nigerian politics is at odds with the mindset of academia and professionalism of technocrats. It’s why I have always said Osinbajo for example would have been a disaster.

femi4:
Check previous post...Tinubu was never in pdp

Exactly what i said, so he does not owe any loyalthy to GEJ in the first instance. So there is no where Betrayal comes into the picture with Tinubu and GEJ.

fxexperts:
Exactly what i said, so he does not owe any loyalthy to GEJ in the first instance. So there is no where Betrayal comes into the picture with Tinubu and GEJ.

It was you that made it Tinubu vs Gej

Go back to my previous post n digest it slowly

They betrayed you cos you ain't smart enough and you're weak. Imagine dem taking advantage of dear young, vibrant and educated president with ordinary alcohol.

femi4:
It was you that made it Tinubu vs Gej

Go back to my previous post n digest it slowly

I have gone back to your previous post and am sure i gave you the correct reply without calling Tinubu into it. My call for Tinubu was for the other guy I quoted. Now, back to my question to you, here is the answer.
There was never a time he promised to do one term; you should not say something you have no proof of.

Tell us when GEJ promised to do one term.

fxexperts:
I have gone back to your previous post and am sure i gave you the correct reply without calling Tinubu into it. My call for Tinubu was for the other guy I quoted. Now, back to my question to you, here is the answer.
There was never a time he promised to do one term; you should not say something you have no proof of.

Tell us when GEJ promised to do one term.

If its was for the other guy, it makes no sense adding it to the reply to my comment

Again, check my previous posts for answer to your question - take your time

femi4:
If its was for the other guy, it makes no sense adding it to the reply to my comment

Again, check my previous posts for answer to your question - take your time

Agin there is nothing in your previous post that answered my question. Again i will ask you tell me where GEJ ever agreed he was going to do one term. GEJ was a week president i agree but he never promised one term to anyone. He was obviously the best president to win the 2011 election after Yaradua death because he was the incumbent president and he sold the idea of his poor background to Nigerians, which was what earned him the seat, and again it was a mathematical calculation from OBJ that earned him both the VP seat and, in turn, the President seat. He betrayed his Godfather, OBJ, and those northern politicians were jealous that he was going to be the first ever president to rule Nigeria for 10 years, a feat they can never achieve. The coalition was formed against him, and even people like Tambuwal and other speakers of the House of Assembly and Senate were decamping; he should have played politics and declared their seats vacant; heaven will not fall if he had done that. It was clear evidence that JEGA, the INEC chairman, was going to betray him; he should have listened to his cabinet members and removed him, yet he still allowed him to conduct the election. He would have sent the EFCC after Tinubu, Tambuwal, Saraki, and others, even Jega should have been suspended before the election, but that guy was just too weak. The principals and all the staff of the Chibok school should have been locked up and interrogated seriously, but he did nothing; he should have suspended the licence of Channels TV through NBC. But he did nothing. GEJ should go and learn politics from BAT. Assuming he had people like WIKe in his inner cabinet at that time, GEJ would have done a second tenure effortlessly.

Also he employed the most clueless media team in his cabinet, imagine it is now people like Reno Omokri has mouth to speak, he was not vocal while working for his principal then, look at what Tinubu is doing with his media team, i have said it that Nigerians do not deserve a good man as president, we deserve a man who can handle us with iron hands.

fxexperts:
Agin there is nothing in your previous post that answered my question. Again i will ask you tell me where GEJ ever agreed he was going to do one term. GEJ was a week president i agree but he never promised one term to anyone. He was obviously the best president to win the 2011 election after Yaradua death because he was the incumbent president and he sold the idea of his poor background to Nigerians, which was what earned him the seat, and again it was a mathematical calculation from OBJ that earned him both the VP seat and, in turn, the President seat. He betrayed his Godfather, OBJ, and those northern politicians were jealous that he was going to be the first ever president to rule Nigeria for 10 years, a feat they can never achieve. The coalition was formed against him, and even people like Tambuwal and other speakers of the House of Assembly and Senate were decamping; he should have played politics and declared their seats vacant; heaven will not fall if he had done that. It was clear evidence that JEGA, the INEC chairman, was going to betray him; he should have listened to his cabinet members and removed him, yet he still allowed him to conduct the election. He would have sent the EFCC after Tinubu, Tambuwal, Saraki, and others, even Jega should have been suspended before the election, but that guy was just too weak. The principals and all the staff of the Chibok school should have been locked up and interrogated seriously, but he did nothing; he should have suspended the licence of Channels TV through NBC. But he did nothing. GEJ should go and learn politics from BAT. Assuming he had people like WIKe in his inner cabinet at that time, GEJ would have done a second tenure effortlessly.

Also he employed the most clueless media team in his cabinet, imagine it is now people like Reno Omokri has mouth to speak, he was not vocal while working for his principal then, look at what Tinubu is doing with his media team, i have said it that Nigerians do not deserve a good man as president, we deserve a man who can handle us with iron hands.

You didn't take your time to check all, I am not surprised you couldn't see it

casualobserver:
Jesus wept! That you fail to understand what I just said just proves that not all graduates are intelligent.

Learning a subject is not proof of intelligence. To get a degree you need to get 40%. 40% is below average 50% is average! 40% means you failed 3 out of 5 questions or think about it this way will you say a person who failed 60% of the questions is intelligent?

You can get a pass degree in some countries with 36%. Ponder on that for a second. Someone wh0 failed in 64% of this questions has a degree. Similarly there are people whose phD dissertations are cited and game changing and there are those whose PHD work is never cited. There are lecturers who never become professors and there are lecturers who become professors in 5 years. They both have phDs Are they equal?

Let is consider a graduate with a 2:2. It means he scored 50%. He passed only half the questions. Which means there is a 50% chance he doesn’t know what he is talking about. Or he remmembered the basics but couldn’t answer the questions that required application of the knowledge. Are you willing to put the structural design of your skyscraper in his hands in the belief that he is intelligent because he has a degree?

You know the procedure for multiplication for example and practice it does not make you intelligent.

Plus I did not say graduates are not intelligent, I said not all graduates or phD holders are intelligent. They are learned. They are not necessarily intelligent.

In fact in western countries where this education and language we copy comes from, , they won’t call you intelligent because you have a degree, they would refer you you as learned or lettered.

It is only in Nigeria that we automatically refer to someone with a degree or phd as intelligent

As you can see below, intelligence is the application of knowledge. Knowledge does not make you intelligent. A degree just means you have knowledge.

A degree is evidence of the acquisition of knowledge ina subject area but without intelligence requires the ability to apply that knowledge and to think abstractly, critically and logically. Nigeria has a lot of degree holders who can’t apply their knowledge.

Intelligence is something you have whether you went to school or not. You don’t become intelligent because you went to school or got degrees.

Finally there are different types of intelligence. Academic intelligence, emotional intelligence, social intelligence, cultural intelligence, political intelligence. Even if you have academic intelligence it does not mean you have the others. For examples nerds are usually very good programmers but may be social misfits because they lack social intelligence.

In Nigeria in particular academics and technocrats no matter the intelligence they may have displayed in their areas of competence, often lack political intelligence. Because the intelligence required for Nigerian politics is at odds with the mindset of academia and professionalism of technocrats. It’s why I have always said Osinbajo for example would have been a disaster.

Stop stressing yourself bro. Intelligence is defined as a state of having a high or quick cognitive ability. People assimilate cognitive units at different rates. Albert Einstein was described as being intelligent because he was able to assimilate and comprehend complex equations meant for University students at the age of ten. Did he acquire knowledge? Yes. Did he apply it at that point in time? No. So your hypothesis doesn't hold true bro

femi4:
They are all the same...talking with both sides of their mouth

As in. See them and the Almighty El Rufai today.