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| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IYGEAL(m): 11:44pm On Sep 05, 2025 |
Jane111:Thank you. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IYGEAL(m): 11:49pm On Sep 05, 2025 |
Odunharry:Which you should |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IYGEAL(m): 11:49pm On Sep 05, 2025 |
skydiver01:Nice. I hope they extend the same to FGN Savings Bonds |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by A305: 9:17am On Sep 06, 2025*. Modified: 1:07pm On Sep 06, 2025 |
Generalmerchant:CBN is in a dilemma at this point. They want stable FX rate, they want reduced inflation yet they want to reduce borrowing within and plan borrowing externally. Let me break it down: Nigeria inflation is sticky and VERY STUBBORN so much so that, eventhough the numbers Quarterly reveals inflation is easing, however Month on Month inflation fluctuates, it keeps rising and in some month falls, then rise again. Very stubborn. If inflation was only reducing and no fluctuation seen; CBN would have cut rates hence T.bills yield will fallen even lower but CBN is freaking scared. Here is another problem. Nigeria is debt free from IMF but owing massive debt internally, Internal debts are easy to repay but it's hardly enough to stimulate the economy because think of it like a ponzi scheme that can NEVER crash. Now, FG is looking to borrow externally because we can and technically, our debt to GDP ratio is good enough to allow us borrow externally. So FG will prefer foreign debt over internal debt, that was why you heard of the new foreign loan news 2 days ago. They want more of those debt if they need to boost spending. Nigeria spending is too low for our kind of economy. So, if FG gets more of this foreign loans, they won't rely on internal debt as much to kept running the economy, hence CBN will cut rate, Tbills rate will plummet. But here is where it gets interesting: CBN needs FPI which has stabilized Naira/Dollar FX rate to 1500 since last year, and they can only get that when they raise interest rate for internal debt. If they aggressively cut rate, FPI will run away, some will pull their money and begin to buy stocks and Equities, that's why CBN hasn't cut rate since the last 3 or 4 quarters. CBN’s stance so to keep squeezing inflation, even if the economy growth suffers short-term. One more last reason to note is: Global conditions (Trump’s tariffs, Fed cuts) could help Nigeria attract more FPI, which will further strengthen the Naira. That is why CBN is hesitant to cut rate. How does this affect you, thinking rates are going back up? Prepare for the wild ride because, you will keep experiencing rates like unstable NEPA light and prepare for the fall of rates once Tax laws are fully implemented next year. Tinubu and Cardoso are really getting things right on this one. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 10:12am On Sep 06, 2025 |
IYGEAL:Fg will always pay though there maybe times where there will be delay |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:30am On Sep 06, 2025 |
A305:You see the highlighted points — you said inflation is keeping rates high, and then at the end you said effective tax implementation will drop rates. That begs the question: are you saying taxes will reduce inflation? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by A305: 11:04am On Sep 06, 2025 |
ositadima1:Keep in mind, Interest rate is high and untouched for at least 2 reasons. 1- To reel in Inflation. 2- To keep FPI in the economy to stabilize Naira/dollar FX. The goal of CBN is to achieve 15% inflation and build a 1 trillion Naira economy. That was the task Tinubu set for Cardoso. Efficient Taxation will account for revenue that is now generated from part of the money we give FG via T.bill. so, imagine, if they have enough money from Tax, will they need so much of our money anymore? They will need our Tbills money but not as much, so they will be prompted to cut interest rate to only stimulate outflow and inflow of money supply in the economy. When that happens, Yield for Tbills will be back to single digit numbers. But and a BIG BUT! 1- Do we trust the Nigeria system to implement the Tax policy flawlessly? 2- Even if the Tax money are being remitted, Will it truly be enough? 3 - What about the status of hot money like FPI that keep fx stable in the absence of FDI? 4 - How does government intend to pay back previous loans without having a deficit? These questions and more are the reasons why it isn't easy to fix Nigeria hence, the loan circle continues inflation or not. NO FEAR. Even well Taxed economies like Britian have these challenges. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 12:12pm On Sep 06, 2025 |
A305:You did not answer my question. You already pointed out why interest rates was raised but did not include low revenue as one of the reasons. Again, the question is: can taxation reduce or improve the two points you mentioned? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by A305: 1:03pm On Sep 06, 2025 |
ositadima1:I infact did justice to your earlier question by painting a broader picture. To outline each: For point Number 1 When government raises enough tax, it doesn’t need to borrow recklessly. And if it doesn't borrow, No pumping money into the economy, meaning prices of commodities will not raise and in simple answer, No inflation or presence of minimal healthy inflation. So yes. Efficient Taxation reduces inflation. Keyword here is "Efficient Taxation". For point Number 2. A healthy vibrant economy don't need FPI to stabilize FX, rather what the economy needs is FDI to create jobs and multiplier effects in economy hence that in itself will boost the economy, reduce inflation and strengthen the currency. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 1:23pm On Sep 09, 2025 |
When was the last time MTN paid dividend How soon are we. Expecting dividend from them. Thanks. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 4:27am On Sep 10, 2025 |
A305:How long does the CBN need to keep rates high to satisfy FPIs? Where/how does the CBN get the money to pay these FPIs? What is the longterm wider effect on the Nigerian populace if the CBN keeps finding money (from whatever sourceĺ to sustain FPIs these rates? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by bassdow: 6:43pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
emmasoft:Sir you might have to use layMan's language Oooo |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by realking(m): 9:44am On Sep 11, 2025 |
Please anybody with yesterday's Tbill result |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enque(f): 11:01am On Sep 11, 2025 |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kristien4(m): 7:18pm On Sep 11, 2025 |
A305:So in all, at this momentum, do you expect the current tbill rate to go up or drop before the January tax implementation? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ivan18888888888: 5:20am On Sep 14, 2025 |
Odunharry:Hello , pls where can I invest on this commercial papers |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 8:08am On Sep 14, 2025 |
Ivan18888888888:You can always invest via Investment companies. Majority always send mail when CPs are available. Some people also post here. But invest in companies that has good ratings and Financials. Remember it's similar to Tbills but not as secured as Tbills. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ivan18888888888: 9:25am On Sep 15, 2025 |
hello everyone … is it true you can invest in Stanbic ibtc treasury bills without opening an account with them |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by femiaction(m): 4:47pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Hello Fam, I need your advice on something. I purchased a Treasury Bill through First Bank on September 3, 2025, and requested a certificate of investment as proof. Instead, what I received was a document titled “Nigerian Treasury Bills Proof of Investment.” The issue is that this document came without any signature or authentication from First Bank officials, which seems unusual. Has anyone here experienced this before? Shouldn’t a proper Treasury Bill certificate or contract note be signed and authorized by the bank? This letter was stated below NIGERIAN TREASURY BILLS PROOF OF INVESTMENT We thank you for banking with First Bank Nigeria Ltd and hereby confirm your Nigerian Treasury Bills investment with us as detailed below. Reference Code: xxxxxxxxx Account Number: xxxxxxx Amount Invested: xxxxxxxx Tenor: 364 Days Rate: 16.75% Effective Date: 2025-09-04 Maturity Date: 2026-09-03 Principal At Maturity: xxxxxxxxx Interest: xxxxxxxxxxxx Please note that your interest on this investment is subject to the following charges: . Commission: 0.125% per transaction (per investment) Custody Fee: 0.10% per transaction (per investment) Transaction Fee: NGN100.00 per transaction (per investment) VAT: 7.5% VAT on Commission, Custody Fee and Transaction Fees NOTE: Investment done before implementation of the new (7.5%) VAT remains 5%. In the event that you have to liquidate this investment prior to the maturity date indicated above, this will be treated based on the prevalent rediscount rate, which may be higher or lower than the above rate. Please confirm your acceptance of these terms and acknowledge receipt by signing and returning a copy of this confirmation letter to us. Thank you for your patronage. Yours faithfully, For: First Bank of Nigeria Ltd The officer incharge said this is the certificate First Bank issue for TB |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MOM1(m): 4:59pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
femiaction:You may need to contact your account officer. It is a always a PDF doc and you will see FIRS stamp on it |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by femiaction(m): 5:15pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
MOM1:The problem is: The document had no stamp or signature from First Bank officials. Instead, it asked me to sign and return. This was sent to me directly by my account officer, which makes me very concerned. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MOM1(m): 6:43pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
femiaction:It should have 2 signatures and FIRS postage stamp on it. I don't think anyone has ever been required to sign the certificate |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 7:24pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
MOM1:Normally for investment certificate, signature of both parties will be e required. The signature of the client will be needed as prof they have accepted offer and terms and conditions stated process in letter. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 7:25pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Ivan18888888888:Just hearing this. So the investment certificate will be in whose name? Doe it mean a third party can also fund on behalf on client? Whose account will be credited at maturity? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pafra(m): 7:59am On Sep 16, 2025 |
A305:The petroleum tax if implemented will in no way be enough money to boost the economy to one trillion dollar economy. With that in mind internal borrowing will continue. Note, TB is local borrowing don't allow any body confuse you. Its an economic tool that is very important for many economic reasons. FPI will pull out their money if TB is no longer lucrative when demand for TB is low CBN have no option, they will increase the interest rate to attract FPI. Diversifying the economy will improve the country earnings then, reduce any form of borrowing and a better stimulus to the economy. They have done their best, but can never go further from here with taxes. A lot have to be done |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akinlot: 8:17am On Sep 16, 2025 |
femiaction:If it is on a first bank letter headed paper, with proof of investment followed by a 13 digit number at the top left hand corner then there's nothing wrong with it Mine has never had any signature or stamp and I have always gotten paid when due |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akinlot: 8:18am On Sep 16, 2025 |
MOM1:This is not true |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 9:12am On Sep 16, 2025 |
pafra:This is what I wanted him to figure out: taxation will not solve inflation or our many economic issues. The government has to do more — insecurity, which is very high now; diversification, as you pointed out; corruption; and other challenges need to be tackled. You can collect as much tax as you want, but if it is diverted, it will contribute next to nothing. We know very well how funds have been diverted throughout Nigeria’s history. Did we suddenly become different this time around? Are funds not still being diverted as we speak? |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:30pm On Sep 16, 2025 |
femiaction:Is been a while I have done TB but with the knowledge of what I used to do. I will say the contents of this your post is actually what first bank's TB certificate of investment contains. However, your worries are germaine. Usually, after this; (Your faithfully For: First Bank of Nigeria) There is always an (authorised Signatory column above which the signature of the officer (s) assigned with the responsibility signs) in majority of the branches, it will carry 2 signatories one on the left and another on the right but some branches will carry only one. Also, some branches will Stamp it with a stamp that has inscriptions like;Team Lead Finance or that bears the name of the branch, some will also go as far as affixing postage stamp on it while others will not bother putting any stamp but in all thereis always a signature for the bank. Also, they always print two copy and ask you to write original collected by me on the duplicate that will be left with them. You should have asked them why the document was not signed by their any of their rep. That's not normal. They must be at least a signature. |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MOM1(m): 1:31pm On Sep 16, 2025 |
Akinlot:That's all I have always received from first bank. so not sure what you meant by "not true" |
| Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by femiaction(m): 4:42pm On Sep 16, 2025*. Modified: 5:19pm On Sep 16, 2025 |
freeman67:Thanks, Freeman. Yes, it carries 2 signatories, one on the left and another on the right. The problem is my account officer, he said this Please be assured that the certificate you have received is indeed the authentic certificate of your investment. It is identical to the certificates we issue to all our customers who invest in treasury bills, following the same instructions and content. We do not have any other type of investment certificate. . When I opened the letter, it said Please confirm your acceptance of these terms and acknowledge receipt by signing and returning a copy of this confirmation letter to us.. You should have asked them why the document was not signed by their any of their rep I asked the same question, but no response till now, since yesterday. I sent an email to these emails Email: firstcontactcomplaints@firstbankgroup.com, complaints@firstbankgroup.com
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