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ttoyetade:
It has not been so. Japa is only recent. The 9 to 5 jobs are no longer there and Nigerians are always copying others . follow follow

Japa is not recent. That's why even most of our political office holders, as old as most may be, you will still find out that they once were living outside the country long ago, some earning university degrees, others working for firms.

Eriokanmi:
The best way to japa is when you're still single. You'd make it faster with a clear sense of direction, judging from experience. Also, once you've clocked 40s, please dont take the entire family with you at first, or you'd be feeding from hand to mouth and over stress yourself to make ends meet. Life no hard, it's what you make it.

Go, work and take care of your family back home. You may decide to stay back at work and do overtime. Or you combine 2 jobs together, you may even be away for the whole week from home, hustling. Love is incomplete without money oo, put that in your left palm so you don't feed with it.. With your family with you, you cant achieve much. Don't expect any white collar job when you get there at 40s, even as a single youth but if it comes your way, grab it. Put your children in good schools back home, you're still spending far less in best schools locally, compared to the fees and expenses over there. Maintain just one room where you can sleep and wake up. With your family with you, you know that's not possible .

Once you're fully settled with some reliable investments back home and children education well sorted out, then you may invite them over for holidays, until they finally move and this time, they're graduates seeking to further. Wife too won't have to work under stress.

If you already have a work and plan to settle where you are going, why don't you go with your family and settle all at once. My husband was over 40 when we're leaving, I guess he had read an opinion like yours then, so he suggested one person going first while kids and the remaining person come later. Thank God, I rejected that opinion instantly. Life was much easier settling together, knowing where you are going, work etc

This is a very wrong approach. If you are 40 and above, the best way to travel is to go with your family. Family should be number one reason you are looking for greener pasture in life. I have a friend who traveled without his family but only to get there and all it takes was for him to arrange marriage. Its almost 6 years now, he hasnt been able to have physical contact with his own family. He is regreting daily. Money shouldn't be the first approach for traveling but have your family round with you and seeing them grow should be the the present approach. However, you will understand that the way the west value children is way better than Africans value their children; they set aside adequate care for children including good school and environment, only if you have the fear of God and you also instinct that fear of God and good value on your children. Finally, the reason we made much effort to have a good life is to see our children around us and any suffer we see ourselves during the hustling always translateto joy when you see your family intact with you.

Eriokanmi:
The best way to japa is when you're still single. You'd make it faster with a clear sense of direction, judging from experience. Also, once you've clocked 40s, please dont take the entire family with you at first, or you'd be feeding from hand to mouth and over stress yourself to make ends meet. Life no hard, it's what you make it.

Go, work and take care of your family back home. You may decide to stay back at work and do overtime. Or you combine 2 jobs together, you may even be away for the whole week from home, hustling. Love is incomplete without money oo, put that in your left palm so you don't feed with it.. With your family with you, you cant achieve much. Don't expect any white collar job when you get there at 40s, even as a single youth but if it comes your way, grab it. Put your children in good schools back home, you're still spending far less in best schools locally, compared to the fees and expenses over there. Maintain just one room where you can sleep and wake up. With your family with you, you know that's not possible .

Once you're fully settled with some reliable investments back home and children education well sorted out, then you may invite them over for holidays, until they finally move and this time, they're graduates seeking to further. Wife too won't have to work under stress.

Wen d government is find joy in frustrating d citizen, dey increase fuel price increase data subscription, just recently increase passport price dey ave absolutely almost increased everything in Nigeria, and some are even two times increased of d normal price, it is so frustrating every of there move is anti people policy, ave never seen such a wicked government b4, seriously we are truly enduring in dis nation, is like dey are even using juju because nobody is complaining again, dis country would have been d best country if not for all dis heartless government, and nw if d youth venture into fraud nw dey will be blaming d youth

TOPCRUISE:
You also don't want your children to suffer the way you suffered. I want to japaa for the sake of my children.

Why did you have children in the first place? En? What do you need them for?

Whois:
Japa is not just for yourself but for your family. Anyone that advice you to japa alone is not making complete sense

You like suffer. Let’s use our brain

cyberbro:
7 out of 10 ke? You dey whine?
More like 9.5 out of 10 lol 😂

Based on fantasies and unrealistic dreams

Angelfrost:
The Double-Edged Sword

While the exodus creates a brain drain — with doctors, engineers, and creatives leaving — it also brings opportunities through remittances. Nigerians abroad sent $20 billion back home in 2023, sustaining families and businesses.
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This statement above sounds more and more idiotic everytime I hear Nigerians celebrating and touting it around... Especially supporters of this government.


Just stop at "Brain Drain"! Infact, brain and economic drain!


Take football for instance... Just imagine we had Saka, Olise, Eze, etc, playing alongside Osimhen and Lookman, with someone like Jo Bonfere or Westerhoff coaching them in Super Eagles!

No way we won't reach semifinals of the world cup.

A big LOL at Westerholf and Bonfrere Jo coaching a modern team in 2025...

Nigerians and "good old days" syndrome even though conditions are no longer the same.

Apart from Nigeria, name any other team(club or country) that these Dutch duo made a success since they stopped coaching Nigeria?

You guys seem to underestimate the level of financial support and every other backing and support you can think of Abacha gave to these 2 coaches... For the first time, a coach can bypass the Glass House and make their demand known to the whole president..

The fact that Nigeria had the hottest Super Eagles(ranked number 5 in the world) during Abacha's era was not a fluke..

I would give more credit to Abacha for the success of the Super Eagles of that era even though he might have failed in every other area.

My point is, if the 2 Dutch gaffers were that hot, they would have replicated that success with at least one more team after they left Nigeria..

That is the hallmark of legends like Ancelloti and the likes who are not defined by a flash in the pan glory.

DeZoro:
This is a very wrong approach. If you are 40 and above, the best way to travel is to go with your family. Family should be number one reason you are looking for greener pasture in life. I have a friend who traveled without his family but only to get there and all it takes was for him to arrange marriage. Its almost 6 years now, he hasnt been able to have physical contact with his own family. He is regreting daily. Money shouldn't be the first approach for traveling but have your family round with you and seeing them grow should be the the present approach. However, you will understand that the way the west value children is way better than Africans value their children; they set aside adequate care for children including good school and environment, only if you have the fear of God and you also instinct that fear of God and good value on your children. Finally, the reason we made much effort to have a good life is to see our children around us and any suffer we see ourselves during the hustling always translateto joy when you see your family intact with you.

If you read my post well, you'd spot my emphasis on family. The reason you're emigrating at that age isn't for your self primarily, but for the sake of your family. Its never an easy decision to take. If you're doing well at home,you'd be counting down on your retirement at that age.

I posted that comment based on experience, my experience and that of others. I left while still single at late 20s. Two of my friends I assisted to enter usa left in their 40s and without their wives and children, the best arrangement ever. Starting life afresh over there with the family is very tough. They both declared for asylum and got their green card. With 10 years validity during Biden administration. As I speak to you, their family always visit and they're are OK. They too come home yearly. I know 2 of their children schooling in ABUAD, one of the highly rated universities globally. Its located in ekiti while the younger ones attend good sec schools in lagos.

Those who know me here know i dont fabricate stories. Wives are well engaged in business. They're not struggling to pay fees. They've both owned a duplex each here in alimosho lagos. I sourced an architect, workers and suppliers here on Nairaland for their houses. Renting 2 bed in the usa for example is huge, for a family just starting. I've lived there for years before relocating to Nigeria to set up my business and I've been visiting the US for 21 years now. Will you as a starter want to put family in a one bed? You can save and give them good life at home. My friends told me once they get their passport, they'd file for the family, gbam! That's wisdom.

The example you cited can truly happen, I'm not ruling it out. Na wetin I experience and witness I dey use for example. Its the best, trust me.

Anyways, to some extent you are right but it depends on the country. But anyone who wants to japa have different reasons. Some are to make money while some are to make good family.

Eriokanmi:
If you read my post well, you'd spot my emphasis on family. The reason you're emigrating at that age isn't for your self primarily, but for the sake of your family. Its never an easy decision to take. If you're doing well at home,you'd be counting down on your retirement at that age.

I posted that comment based on experience, my experience and that of others. I left while still single at late 20s. Two of my friends I assisted to enter usa left in their 40s and without their wives and children, the best arrangement ever. Starting life afresh over there with the family is very tough. They both declared for asylum and got their green card. With 10 years validity during Biden administration. As I speak to you, their family always visit and they're are OK. They too come home yearly. I know 2 of their children schooling in ABUAD, one of the highly rated universities globally. Its located in ekiti while the younger ones attend good sec schools in lagos.

Those who know me here know i dont fabricate stories. Wives are well engaged in business. They're not struggling to pay fees. They've both owned a duplex each here in alimosho lagos. I sourced an architect, workers and suppliers here on Nairaland for their houses. Renting 2 bed in the usa for example is huge, for a family just starting. I've lived there for years before relocating to Nigeria to set up my business and I've been visiting the US for 21 years now. Will you as a starter want to put family in a one bed? You can save and give them good life at home. My friends told me once they get their passport, they'd file for the family, gbam! That's wisdom.

The example you cited can truly happen, I'm not ruling it out. Na wetin I experience and witness I dey use for example. Its the best, trust me.

DeZoro:
Anyways, to some extent you are right but it depends on the country. But anyone who wants to japa have different reasons. Some are to make money while some are to make good family.

True. Wherever you are, distance should never be a barrier in caring for the family. I have a friend working at the federal radio corporation of Nigeria nasarawa state branch, he comes home to see family in lagos once in 4 months by air, due to insecurity. Its risky traveling by road nowadays. My both fiends living in America come home once in a year to see their family.

The family too visit once in a year. If the family goes in December, friends would come in July so they see one another 2 times in a year. The family will still eventually become citizens. They have 2 more years to file for citizenship. One lives in PA while the other lives in Bronx. I've been to their place. They occupy one room each. They saved the rent for a 2 bed and bult houses, set up family and children in school. no family care can be better than that. Had they relocated with family, the journey wouldn't be so fast

I blame Tinubu 🙄😏😏

Japa has existed from time immemorial. Nigeria has had same problems since before her independence.

Why do you think some 50+, 60+ year old left Nigeria at their tender ages to relocate abroad and are still there till date? They even have their kids there who visit Nigeria once in a while and are seen as "ajebo"? Many Nigerian girls even prefer them to the based in Nigeria. Why? They want to japa too.

Its just normal thing. Abroad, you and Nigerian politicians' kids will roll together and nobody cares who your papa be, unlike in Nigeria where you can't even get into certain estates because your parents don't have much and you can't be friends with their kids there cos of the line between the rich and the poor.

Everyone that planned their japa properly don't regret the decision, and japa is not something new at all.

cityboylagos:
https://eyesoflagos.com/the-japa-generation-why-7-out-of-10-nigerian-youths-want-to-relocate/

This Ronu government thinks governance is all about throwing owambe parties at Bourdillon and junketing the globe in executive jets.......Tinubu has not given anybody hope!

ibedun:
You like suffer. Let’s use our brain

Who told you I dey suffer. When I said travel with family I was talking about married man with kid/kids that want to japa need to plan japa for himself and family or else bills from Nigeria will affect him. Do you understand now?

Softmirror:
It's been so since a very long time ago. As far back, it is more of a lack of proper orientation over many decades.

Or it's more of the mentality that the country isn't working out as ideally should.

Even Seyi wan Japa.

FavouriteOfGod:
Or it's more of the mentality that the country isn't working out as ideally should.

That's the main reason it is a orientation problem. You can be running away from challenges and expect to get fixed by itself.

ultimateprof:
If Tinubu see chance, walahi the BAT go Japa. Better days ahead!

,, YOU think say naa you and Tinubu dey Nigeria ni? Tinubu is already in France, he is just visiting Nigeria to check one or two things and then go back to France

ibedun:
Why did you have children in the first place? En? What do you need them for?

Been thinking about this too.

you should have rather said, “why 9 out of every 10 Nigerians want to relocate”. if I had known that Nigeria will be this bad, I would have seized the opportunity to join my friends to japa as at 2012 when they were japaring, to the extent that I will keep preaching and telling them that, I so much believed in Nigeria, that Nigeria will certainly work, I kept assuring that to them, little did I know that we aren’t seen anything as at that period.
Look at it today, at least majority of those who took that bold step to relocate, today are not regretting it.
A funny incident played in my dream this morning, I was in a dream and I saw myself screaming in prayers begging god almighty to bless me with n15m to japa. the truth is that things will still get worse than this here.
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ibedun:
Why did you have children in the first place? En? What do you need them for?

I am yet to have one.

able20:
,, YOU think say naa you and Tinubu dey Nigeria ni? Tinubu is already in France, he is just visiting Nigeria to check one or two things and then go back to France

You dey see far beyond what I can imagine.

You guys should listen to this man. He's saying nothing but the truth. He's speaking from experience. It's easier to migrate when you are single than as a family man. Especially now that they are making it difficult for migrants to bring their families over. Also migrate when you are in your prime. It gets harder as you get older. When i tell people to Japa before the age of 40, I was mocked and insulted on this forum. At 40, if you have spent all your life in Nigeria, you will find it difficult to assimilate into western society. There are many Nigerians over the age of 40 that have successfully migrated abroad but ask yourself this question: what percentage are successful compared to others from the same age group? I migrated abroad straight after secondary school. It was easier for me to fit in. At the age I am in now, it will be very difficult to migrate abroad except I have no choice.

Eriokanmi:
The best way to japa is when you're still single. You'd make it faster with a clear sense of direction, judging from experience. Also, once you've clocked 40s, please dont take the entire family with you at first, or you'd be feeding from hand to mouth and over stress yourself to make ends meet. Life no hard, it's what you make it.

Go, work and take care of your family back home. You may decide to stay back at work and do overtime. Or you combine 2 jobs together, you may even be away for the whole week from home, hustling. Love is incomplete without money oo, put that in your left palm so you don't feed with it.. With your family with you, you cant achieve much. Don't expect any white collar job when you get there at 40s, even as a single youth but if it comes your way, grab it. Put your children in good schools back home, you're still spending far less in best schools locally, compared to the fees and expenses over there. Maintain just one room where you can sleep and wake up. With your family with you, you know that's not possible .

Once you're fully settled with some reliable investments back home and children education well sorted out, then you may invite them over for holidays, until they finally move and this time, they're graduates seeking to further. Wife too won't have to work under stress.