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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:32pm On Sep 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
I s it human and moral to open the border and allow anyone and everyone to enter the country?
Yes it is. If their lifes are in danger where they are coming from. That's why the world recognises assylum seekers. It is Christian too. Leviticus 19:33-34 ("You shall not oppress a stranger..."wink, Matthew 25:35-40 (the parable about serving the hungry and strangers), and Romans 12:13 (exhorting believers to "extend hospitality to strangers"wink.

raumdeuter:
Is it human or moral to have people being gunned down in Liberal cities
No it isn't. That's why most countries don't let their citizens go about with guns.

raumdeuter:
Is it human or moral to have boys play in girls sport?
Yes it is. Boys and girls play many sports in school together. There's also sports for adults that have mixed teams.

raumdeuter:
Is it human or moral to have other country's tariff American goods
I can't really see how this is a moral question, and think it is more an economic question. It is economic sense for Nigeria to tariff the tokunbo junk that ends up in our country, and we do tariff them.

raumdeuter:
The liberal policies that allow lawlessness, disorderliness and taking advantage of America are those human or moral
The "lawlessness, disorderliness" is not necessarily due to liberal policies. Liberal policies are not what made dump instigate lawlessness and disorderliness on Jan6.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by legitnow1: 6:32pm On Sep 10, 2025
Is the painment still paining libs here?


by jan trump dearest will be heading to his 3rd year in office.


i will come back to check on her again and all her claims to see which trump has done or were they all scare tactics of a desperate l;iberal
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by legitnow1: 6:36pm On Sep 10, 2025
i'm tired of theory and speculation now.

i want to see wat trump has done to match the claims.


or are they all; lies?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:41pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
You have IjeBos Felicia posting Tucker, budaatum posting Tucker. What's going on here 😂 nateevs now in the pool with Candace Owens and Tucker
A direct contradiction to Tucker, 2 Saudis were on the ground 2 years before and later linked up with the eventual 9-11 atttackers.

https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-officials-may-have-assisted-911-hijackers-new-evidence-suggests

**Don't always trust peopublica every time**5
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:59pm On Sep 10, 2025
budaatum:
Mandelson is a cat with 9 lifes. He's already had to resign twice, so a third wouldn't harm him much.

---Don't think he would resign the third time as regards to his friendship with Epstein---because Felon 47 will protect him---


---Mandelson: more ‘very embarrassing’ details of Epstein friendship to come---

The UK’s ambassador to the US, Peter Mandelson, has said more “very embarrassing” details of his friendship with the paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein will come out, as he said he had never seen any “wrongdoing”.

His admission comes after US lawmakers released Epstein’s 50th “birthday book”, in which Mandelson called him “my best pal”, in a handwritten note.

In his first public comments since the revelation, Lord Mandelson said he “never sought, nor did [Epstein] offer” any introductions to women in the same way as he had done for others, “perhaps it’s because I’m a gay man”.

The Labour peer sought to defend himself in his first public appearance since the revelations, as he told the Harry Cole Saves the West podcast that Epstein was a “charismatic criminal liar”, adding that he deeply regretted continuing their association “far longer than I should have”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/10/mandelson-more-very-embarrassing-details-of-epstein-friendship-to-come
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:00pm On Sep 10, 2025
basilico:
A direct contradiction to Tucker, 2 Saudis were on the ground 2 years before and later linked up with the eventual 9-11 atttackers.

https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-officials-may-have-assisted-911-hijackers-new-evidence-suggests

**Don't always trust peopublica every time**5
It was a the Saudis, it was America, now its Israel
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:06pm On Sep 10, 2025
basilico:
Ibime , unlike Felicia I can get an educated answer from you.
Central Bank Rates.

Previously you pointed out that the interest rates are raised to combat inflation . Conversely they are lowered to encourage growth.

With (I'm using America) the debt $36 Trillion ,doesn't higher rates drive the govt to the brink. Has to repay more , have it's credit rating downgraded etc.
You don't know how the interest USA pays on its debt is arrived at, which is fair, since you are asking.

USA borrows by selling bonds to raise the money they want. They state how much they want to raise, and lenders (bond buyers) will state how much they will charge. An aggregate is then arrived at for that particular bond.

The fed can say what its effective federal funds rate (EFFR) is, but as you will see in the article linked below, that does not determine the interest USA pays on its borrowing, though I know you wouldn't bother to understand it and would only come back with 2000 mules. Its basically saying the fed cut rates and bondholders charged even more, which will be the case if the fed lowers the EFFR even lower.

This is because at the end of the borrowing period, after which the lender has been paying interest, the lender also pays the principal, which might not be worth the same amount that was lended due to depreciation or inflation, or even appreciation and deflation, the later which might make your lent money be worth even more, in which case you might have not minded a low interest, but would mind if your money was worth less when paid back, for which you'd have wisely demanded a higher yield at issue.

When the Fed cut its policy rates by 100 basis points in 2024 amid rising inflation, the 30-year Treasury yield, in a massive counter-reaction, rose by 100 basis points, and we began musing here about a secret question: How many more rate cuts would it take to drive the 30-year yield to 6%?
https://wolfstreet.com/2025/08/30/30-year-treasury-yield-stuck-near-5-on-inflation-fears-but-6-month-yield-drops-sees-rate-cuts-long-end-of-yield-curve-steepens-a-lot-mortgage-rates-still-over-6-5/
Perhaps think of your own debt/credit. You don't tell the lender how much interest you will pay. Its the lender who looks at the risk you pose and imposes interest on you accordingly. If you are credit worthy, as in you pay on time, you'd likely get a lower interest rate than a person who doesn't, as the lender will compensate for the risk posed. (This, by the way, was dumps New York case was about).

On a serious note, I do wish you'd spend more time trying to understand this than swimming in your magaconspiracies, because its implications are huge in the whole scheme of things. But I guess I'll live in hope knowing the sky will fall on this one day. Just ask France and my own UK, or Japan and even China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:08pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
I didn't jump in the middle, they ask you does not mean that response makes sense. Their actions have nothing to do with the US, so I do.

They bomb terrorists in foreign countries, such as Syria, Lebanon, Iran, etc. They are not doing it cause the US is doing it.

When Iran bombed Pakistan, claiming they were going after terrorists. Pakistan responded in kind. Will you say it is because the US did it that's why Iran did it as well?
Abeg dress go one side. None of my responses require any further clarification. If you misunderstood it, then it's your problem.

You should be asking your side why they are asking stupid questions, not attacking my benevolence when I entertain their stupidity and offer clarity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:14pm On Sep 10, 2025
budaatum:
You don't know how the interest USA pays on its debt is arrived at, which is fair, since you are asking.

USA borrows by selling bonds to raise the money they want. They state how much they want to raise, and lenders (bond buyers) will state how much they will charge. An aggregate is then arrived at for that particular bond.

The fed can say what its effective federal funds rate (EFFR) is, but as you will see in the article linked below, that does not determine the interest USA pays on its borrowing, though I know you wouldn't bother to understand it and would only come back with 2000 mules. Its basically saying the fed cut rates and bondholders charged even more, which will be the case if the fed lowers the EFFR even lower.

This is because at the end of the borrowing period, after which the lender has been paying interest, the lender also pays the principal, which might not be worth the same amount that was lended due to depreciation or inflation, or even appreciation and deflation, the later which might make your lent money be worth even more, in which case you might have not minded a low interest, but would mind if your money was worth less when paid back, for which you'd have wisely demanded a higher yield at issue.



Perhaps think of your own debt/credit. You don't tell the lender how much interest you will pay. Its the lender who looks at the risk you pose and imposes interest on you accordingly. If you are credit worthy, as in you pay on time, you'd likely get a lower interest rate than a person who doesn't, as the lender will compensate for the risk posed. (This, by the way, was dumps New York case was about).

On a serious note, I do wish you'd spend more time trying to understand this than swimming in your magaconspiracies, because its implications are huge in the whole scheme of things. But I guess I'll live in hope knowing the sky will fall on this one day. Just ask France and my own UK, or Japan and even China.
Thanks. I'll digest that later in the evening.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:18pm On Sep 10, 2025
nateevs:
Abeg dress go one side. None of my responses require any further clarification. If you misunderstood it, then it's your problem.

You should be asking your side why they are asking stupid questions, not attacking my benevolence when I entertain their stupidity and offer clarity.
Your words tells a different message from what you think you are saying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:21pm On Sep 10, 2025
feedthenation:

---Don't think he would resign the third time as regards to his friendship with Epstein---because Felon 47 will protect him---


---Mandelson: more ‘very embarrassing’ details of Epstein friendship to come---
Dump can't protect Sir Mandelson. Down here, we don't even need to hound Sir Mandelson to resign. All that needs be done is for the media and Lady Kemi to stand up at Question Time every Wednesday and ask his boss Sir Kier Starmer about him so the electorate sees it constantly and have enough of him and kick him out of Number 10, and Sir Mandelson will be gone soon enough. But I doubt it would take that long, considering Sir Mandelson has said there's more to be revealed.

I expect Sir Kier to dump Sir Mandelson before the boat they share sinks, or for Sir Mandelson to accept his position is no more tenable and resign just as Lady Rayner did. If he survives the dump visit to UK, I'd be very surprised. Then there's the Labour Conference.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:27pm On Sep 10, 2025
Ibime:
It gets worse

So Mossad did 9/11? grin grin
Worse? Thing wey some of us don dey talk since 2002. Candance and Tucker are newbies on this topic.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:30pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
Your words tells a different message from what you think you are saying.
Just admit you want extra clarity, and I will gladly provide it. Stop being stubborn.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:30pm On Sep 10, 2025
nateevs:
Worse? Thing wey some of us don dey talk since 2002. Candance and Tucker are newbies on this topic.
grin grin grin

Please don't drive past Stamford Hill or Golders Green, I don't want to come and have to bail you out of Sanko for hate crimes

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:33pm On Sep 10, 2025
basilico:
Thanks. I'll digest that later in the evening.
Don't accept what I've said as definite. Its a lot more complex than I can explain, but the gist of it is the borrower does not set the rate they are lent to.

And that's what makes America's supposed hegemonical might laughable. It's like the person in debt setting the terms of trade. If I were the other countries borrowed from, I'd be silently laughing while the grave is dug, because I'd be aware the sky falls very very slowly in this case (because USA has a printer, which is just theft from its citizens by inflation, as we've seen), but fall it eventually must.

Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six , result happiness.

Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery

Charles Dickens, David Copperfield
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:41pm On Sep 10, 2025
Ibime:
grin grin grin

Please don't drive past Stamford Hill or Golders Green, I don't want to come and have to bail you out of Sanko for hate crimes
I dey drive past Golders Green on a regular. Nothing do me. grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:53pm On Sep 10, 2025
nateevs:
Just admit you want extra clarity, and I will gladly provide it. Stop being stubborn.
I already clarified your confusion, you understand yourself better. Na shame they make you save face now 😀
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriteerNg: 7:57pm On Sep 10, 2025
America is too unsafe for my liking.

God forbid!!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
Fascists are the left. You see it here on this forum from people like IjeBos who can't stand opposing views or opinion.

Ibime, you think Proud Boys are the problem but that is not the pattern we are seeing.

The left cannot tolerate anyone that challenges their view or belief.

Prayers for Charlie kirk
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:04pm On Sep 10, 2025
Charlie Kirk shot during event at Utah university

Trump ally and Turning Point USA executive director can be seen in video getting struck but condition is unknown

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriteerNg: 8:05pm On Sep 10, 2025
He was shot in the neck. I doubt he'll survive it.

https://x.com/WokeArchive/status/1965854179240587703

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:07pm On Sep 10, 2025
WriteerNg:
He was shot in the neck. I doubt he'll survive it.
He is not pronounce dead yet. I am hopeful.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:07pm On Sep 10, 2025
budaatum:
We can't wait to have him visit us here in UK where he'll be questioned, and his bullying wouldn't work.

We'd be asking him what kompromat he has on our Lord Mandelson, that's for sure.
I'll advice your govt to keep the young and even matured girls in their detail away from the kreepe, he's always a predator.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriteerNg: 8:08pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
He is not pronounce dead yet. I am hopeful.
The way blood was pumping everywhere.

He's not going to make it.


https://x.com/WokeArchive/status/1965854179240587703
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:09pm On Sep 10, 2025
WriteerNg:
The way blood was pumping everywhere.

He's not going to make it.
He will.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriteerNg: 8:10pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
He will.
I pray so.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:10pm On Sep 10, 2025
benalvino3:
Fascists are the left. You see it here on this forum from people like IjeBos who can't stand opposing views or opinion.

Ibime, you think Proud Boys are the problem but that is not the pattern we are seeing.

The left cannot tolerate anyone that challenges their view or belief.

Prayers for Charlie cook
Let's collectively forbid you. This is a distasteful and disgraceful thing to do.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:11pm On Sep 10, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'll advice your govt to keep the young and even matured girls in their detail away from the kreepe, he's always a predator.
I think we'd just set Tommy Robinson on him. Hopefully, the fact dump is not a Pakistani Muslim will not deconcern him.

In fact, I'm now going to consider going to Saturday's rally to shout Free Tommy! I'll need reassurances before hand though, that Tommy will not be blind to dump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:12pm On Sep 10, 2025
budaatum:
Charlie Kirk shot during event at Utah university

Trump ally and Turning Point USA executive director can be seen in video getting struck but condition is unknown

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah
I pray he's gonna be well and the cops get the kreepe who did this fast. I hate this political climate we in now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:14pm On Sep 10, 2025
WriteerNg:
I pray so.
Looks a bit too deadly for prayers. Sadly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:15pm On Sep 10, 2025
Fight for your family Charlie kirk. You got to beat this

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