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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:39pm On Sep 11, 2025
bemeruca:
SMH
why you dey shake your head..

Only an insane human being would think the way Trump thinks and say the things he says..

Trump threatens citizens of his own country with denaturilization.

Who does that? Just simply because the person disagrees with him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:41pm On Sep 11, 2025
bayelsaowei:
why you dey shake your head..

Only an insane human being would think the way Trump thinks and say the things he says..

Trump threatens citizens of his own country with denaturilization.

Who does that? Just simply because the person disagrees with him.
Trump is not calling for people to be shot. He owns his mouth, he can say what he likes because he believes in freedom. It is people who will try to kill him are the insane people. The very Hitler they accuse him of.

Can you insult xi or Putin?
The media, and people insult him everyday and nothing is happening to them.

So, I have to shake my head for the goal post shifting you are doing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:34pm On Sep 11, 2025
Ibime:
Only Felicia will accuse Israel of extrajudicial killing of Hamas leaders then provide the exact same justification for killing Osama.

Then 2 days later cry about the killing of narcoterrorists then use the exact same justification for killing Al-Awlaki
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Israel wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Obama wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those narcoterrorists Trump is wiping out
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2025
IjeBos:
I gave you the Obama legal rational. He had a Congress approved AUMF against AlQaedi which the guy was a member of.
Give me the Trump legal reasoning. Show me Congress approved legislation which let him kill people who are Cartel members in international waters.

You don't even seem to even know what you are arguing. You just hear slogans online and repeat them without neary a thought.
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Israel wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Obama wipe out
I am not shedding tears for those narcoterrorists Trump is wiping out

Now do you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:50pm On Sep 11, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Israel wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Obama wipe out
I am not shedding tears for those narcoterrorists Trump is wiping out

Now do you
raumdeuter:
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Israel wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Obama wipe out
I am not shedding tears for those narcoterrorists Trump is wiping out

Now do you
We know who Obama killed. We know what he was doing.
Who were all the people in Gaza Israel killed? What were their crimes?
Who was on the boat that Trump blew up? Show me the proof that they were "narcotertorists"?

You watch people die, don't know who they were or have proof of their crimes, yet celebrate it.
Ask yourself what type of person that makes you.
Seems very clear.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:57pm On Sep 11, 2025
ijebosb:
We know who Obama killed. We know what he was doing.
Who were all the people in Gaza Israel killed? What were their crimes?
Who was on the boat that Trump blew up? Show me the proof that they were "narcotertorists"?

You watch people die, don't know who they were or have proof of their crimes, yet celebrate it.
Ask yourself what type of person that makes you.
Seems very clear.
Where did you try Awlaki a US citizen to know what he was doing?

The crimes of terrorism against Israel

The crimes of narco terrorism

Now go ahead and cry for some terrorists and narcos
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:14am On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
As usual, brain (ignore the parentheses) rot
The jokes write themselves.
The guy who has AI write his posts gets fooled by AI and has so much "brain (ignore the parentheses) rot" he's not even aware.
Here are more pics of the shooter released by the FBI.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:37am On Sep 12, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
They're preaching everywhere. cheesy

It's almost as if they're not the ones that gloriify and defend the murder of blacks and Palestinians. Charlie Kirk himself was just as horrible as they are.
ObaIgwe1:
I was thinking about this earlier. Even the ones on this thread are more concerned till date in proving that the kil ler (a registered Republican) is a Democrat. Now they want Democrats to wail and mourn for days for a guy who believed that gun deaths are essential collateral damage for preservation of 2nd amendment, someone who has no empathy for innocent children kil lled by guns.
“Black people die and Conservatives bring up everything possible to justify disrespecting and negating them in death. Charlie Kirk definitely made 6 figures alone on how he disrespected and monetized the death of George Floyd. He also justified the slaughter of Palestinian Children and American Children. He getting all the disrespect in death that he dished and benefited from in life.“
-Conscious Lee
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:52am On Sep 12, 2025
People with stories to tell

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 4:32am On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
You are definitely confused

Trump killed those he believed are cartels trying to kill Americans you are arguing that its extra Judicial when Obama killed an American citizen who he believed was trying to kill Americans without judicial oversight

I will take an opinion written in Westpoint over the one of a l0ser
So this is all it takes to kill someone...... belief! How are you and Trump different from the person that killed Charlie Kirk?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Unlimited22: 5:46am On Sep 12, 2025
The US Naval Academy in Maryland.


Lol. You people have serious issues.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:50am On Sep 12, 2025
nateevs:
So this is all it takes to kill someone...... belief! How are you and Trump different from the person that killed Charlie Kirk?
grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by anyaekekehinde(m): 7:37am On Sep 12, 2025
IjeBos:
You do know that Trump advocates extra judicial killing and violence.
He just blew up a boat in international waters the other day that he claims were drug smugglers. And claims is doing a lot of work there.

I don't condone killing people, but some of this self righteous indignation when talking about a man like Trump who also pardoned and released Jan 6th insurrections who wanted to hang is VP is beyond me.

Trump and his cult is a cancer to the US.
I will each of your paragraphs as much as time will allow me. Agreed Trump ordered a drone strike that blew a boat in international waters, however when Obama was President he ordered at least 563 drone strikes that killed over 3000 people, following your logic, is it okay to use this to similarly rationalize assassination of Obama
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:41am On Sep 12, 2025
IjeBos:
You do know that Trump advocates extra judicial killing and violence.
He just blew up a boat in international waters the other day that he claims were drug smugglers. And claims is doing a lot of work there.

I don't condone killing people, but some of this self righteous indignation when talking about a man like Trump who also pardoned and released Jan 6th insurrections who wanted to hang is VP is beyond me.

Trump and his cult is a cancer to the US.
The facts about Venezuela boat.
1. The boat had 4 outboard 200HP engines. Each engine costs $20,000 or thereabouts. Max speed of the boat is 90 knots, approximately 106 mph
2. It's GPS had been set to Trinidad and Tobago.

3. The crew jettisoned their cargo as soon as they knew they'd been spotted.

4. The US Navy has warships off Venezuela coast, the top speed of the LCS is 50 knots or 58 mph. The other destroyers do no more than 30-40 knots.

The Venezuela boat was designed to outrun coast guard vesseks

Now , call them fishermen doing their thing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:10am On Sep 12, 2025
bayelsaowei:
this blame games wont help anybody or fix anything..

Do you think Obama himself didn't face much hate from folks like Trump?

Thr country presently is divided along multiple lines, and now with a focus on political stance.

TRUMP must begin to learn that he is the president of everybody.. he missed a chance during his speech to back track and talk to all amercians as a president, rather than pointing fingers. Calling almost half the population of a country as radical left? Who does that as a sensible leader? Trump stokes hate and division and he needs to learn to unite people rather than tear them apart. Thats what led to the invasion of the capitol on Jan 6th (political violence)

Early this year it was the minnesota law maker and her husband that was killed..now it's Kirk..who's next..??

The president needs to do a thorough root cause analysis and address the crack in the united states rather than blame opposition.

Is it time to address gun laws? Is it time to tone down on the spread of political hate? Is it time to steward all amercians irrespective of political stance rather than view some as radicals (all of these people are tax payers)? Is it time to really put america first through bipartisan policies for the good of all?
The root cause is the democrats refusal to accept Trump as the legitimate President. They spend every waking moment trying to destroy him,his allies and his ideals . They use every arsenal they have . Key one is indoctrination in schools and universities . They have picked a target and frozen it.Why are they so against him. Because they want power . The country has to be sliced up into every division they can sow. From trans in girl locker rooms , any one against their progressive ideals is a target. So far several public figures including professors have been fired for their ululations about Kirk's execution.
The real problem is how the left has demonized the right.
Their biggest PR is the media coverage , which ignores black on white violence, black on black violence and screeches when conservatives target a liberal.
The Kirk killer is known,it's only a matter of time.Louder with Crowder leaked an ATF finding about the gun and bullet casings having antifa and trans sentiments. So we could be looking at an execution from a frothing in the mouth liberal.Or some nefarious plot carefully executed to throw blame on the reason they wanted him silence - peeling democrats away from the plantation.

As to why democrats reject Trump ,that can be traced to the actions of Obama promising change and dividing America into every grievance group he could conjure up. His spying on Trump ,subsequent events to cover it up and democrats efforts to stop him by all means is a giant coordinated effort to stop him. To quote
Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) "He cannot see public office again" and "he has to be eliminated," framing Trump as so dangerous to democracy that he must be barred from leadership to prevent destructive influence.
Schumer : “We must ensure that no one like him can ever again threaten our democracy.”

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:01am On Sep 12, 2025
basilico:
The root cause is the democrats refusal to accept Trump as the legitimate President. They spend every waking moment trying to destroy him,his allies and his ideals . They use every arsenal they have . Key one is indoctrination in schools and universities . They have picked a target and frozen it.Why are they so against him. Because they want power . The country has to be sliced up into every division they can sow. From trans in girl locker rooms , any one against their progressive ideals is a target. So far several public figures including professors have been fired for their ululations about Kirk's execution.
The real problem is how the left has demonized the right.
Their biggest PR is the media coverage , which ignores black on white violence, black on black violence and screeches when conservatives target a liberal.
The Kirk killer is known,it's only a matter of time.Louder with Crowder leaked an ATF finding about the gun and bullet casings having antifa and trans sentiments. So we could be looking at an execution from a frothing in the mouth liberal.Or some nefarious plot carefully executed to throw blame on the reason they wanted him silence - peeling democrats away from the plantation.

As to why democrats reject Trump ,that can be traced to the actions of Obama promising change and dividing America into every grievance group he could conjure up. His spying on Trump ,subsequent events to cover it up and democrats efforts to stop him by all means is a giant coordinated effort to stop him. To quote
Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) "He cannot see public office again" and "he has to be eliminated," framing Trump as so dangerous to democracy that he must be barred from leadership to prevent destructive influence.
Schumer : “We must ensure that no one like him can ever again threaten our democracy.”

---At the bolded ---rumor is that the alleged suspect is an ex-military discharged for being a lunatic---

---So quick to forget that all divisions started way back when Felon 47 and the Tea Party (which metamorphosed into MAGA) started the birther allegation against Obama that he was not a U.S. citizen and hoped to make his presidency a first term---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:32am On Sep 12, 2025
basilico:
The facts about Venezuela boat.
1. The boat had 4 outboard 200HP engines. Each engine costs $20,000 or thereabouts. Max speed of the boat is 90 knots, approximately 106 mph
2. It's GPS had been set to Trinidad and Tobago.


3. The crew jettisoned their cargo as soon as they knew they'd been spotted.

4. The US Navy has warships off Venezuela coast, the top speed of the LCS is 50 knots or 58 mph. The other destroyers do no more than 30-40 knots.

The Venezuela boat was designed to outrun coast guard vesseks

Now , call them fishermen doing their thing
Are we still talking about the same boat that was blown to smithereens by a missile?

How did we get these facts, before or after the explosion?

Please respond.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
feedthenation:
---At the bolded ---rumor is that the alleged suspect is an ex-military discharged for being a lunatic---

---So quick to forget that all divisions started way back when Felon 47 and the Tea Party (which metamorphosed into MAGA) started the birther allegation against Obama that he was not a U.S. citizen and hoped to make his presidency a first term---
If I may correct myself , a lot of killings don't have anything to do with Obama legacy.
However there are many killings today that are a result of the toxic atmosphere perpetrated by the lunatic radical left. Targeted and and mass killings that would have not occured if media,politics and academia didn't create victims.
Like St George of Fentanyl drug overdose death that resulted in mass riots, BLM several deaths and perpetually oppressed victims.
Hillary Clinton campaign started the Birther campaign
I have not seen anything about the killer, only that FBI knows his name.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:39am On Sep 12, 2025
nateevs:
Are we still talking about the same boat that was blown to smithereens by a missile?

How did we get these facts, before or after the explosion?

Please respond.
Yes. That fishing boat. Those are the facts. How I got them is irrelevant. Approximately 39 feet in length.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:57am On Sep 12, 2025
basilico:
Yes. That fishing boat. Those are the facts. How I got them is irrelevant.
Fella you must be high on the same drugs you are trying to prevent. This is what happens when madness envelopes you, and you speak from your back side.

1. You claim these are drugs dealers - presumably people that have been doing this for a while. But somehow, according to you, they also need a GPS to get Trinidad and Tobago, presumably after being in this profession for years before a GPS was invented. I bet you never checked how close Trinidad and Tobago is to Venezuela.

2. You claim not only to have known that they have a GPS, but that said GPS was set to a particular destination. All this from a boat that was destroyed by a drone strike from about 100m. Who obtained said information and how?

3. You claim to have known the size of the engine on the boat. Again, for a boat that was blown to bits from about 100m, who established said information and how?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:19am On Sep 12, 2025
nateevs:
Fella you must be high on the same drugs you are trying to prevent. This is what happens when madness envelopes you, and you speak from your back side.

1. You claim these are drugs dealers - presumably people that have been doing this for a while. But somehow, according to you, they also need a GPS to get Trinidad and Tobago, presumably after being in this profession for years before a GPS was invented. I bet you never checked how close Trinidad and Tobago is to Venezuela.

2. You claim not only to have known that they have a GPS, but that said GPS was set to a particular destination. All this from a boat that was destroyed by a drone strike from about 100m. Who obtained said information and how?

3. You claim to have known the size of the engine on the boat. Again, for a boat that was blown to bits from about 100m, who established said information and how?
Trinidad and Tobago's Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar praised the action, citing the threat to her nation's borders from such vessels.

I hope someone else answers your questions, your only interest is to fault every Trump action.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:39am On Sep 12, 2025
It’s the hypocrisy for me

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:51am On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Israel wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those terrorists Obama wiped out
I am not shedding tears for those narcoterrorists Trump is wiping out
People who sat and planned the massacre are now negotiators.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:33pm On Sep 12, 2025
anyaekekehinde:
I will each of your paragraphs as much as time will allow me. Agreed Trump ordered a drone strike that blew a boat in international waters, however when Obama was President he ordered at least 563 drone strikes that killed over 3000 people, following your logic, is it okay to use this to similarly rationalize assassination of Obama
It would be ok to use that logic if you really didn't think through the examples you gave or have an understanding of the argument I was making.
You should read the rest of my posts first.
And the spend some time trying to understand the argument you are making.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:35pm On Sep 12, 2025
cococandy:
“Black people die and Conservatives bring up everything possible to justify disrespecting and negating them in death. Charlie Kirk definitely made 6 figures alone on how he disrespected and monetized the death of George Floyd. He also justified the slaughter of Palestinian Children and American Children. He getting all the disrespect in death that he dished and benefited from in life.“
-Conscious Lee
I'm glad more people are pushing back on the narrative people are tyring to erect.
Dowd shouldn't have been fired for what he said.
We've gotten comfortable normalizing hate speech in the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:36pm On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
People with stories to tell
Stories like the AI posts you read and post?
Still getting fooled by AI?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:38pm On Sep 12, 2025
nateevs:
Are we still talking about the same boat that was blown to smithereens by a missile?

How did we get these facts, before or after the explosion?

Please respond.
Basilico just writes "facts about Venezuela boat." A boat that was bombed by the US in international waters.
Then wants everyone to treat them like not the rantings of a nut.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:41pm On Sep 12, 2025
I think Trump and co. have destroyed every American institution.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:41pm On Sep 12, 2025
Charlie Kirk on assassinations.
He had requested an outdoor venue so that the liberal democrat out there could engage with him in a civil manner.
Ironically his last words before being shot were ... 'transgender violence". Can't confirm that though .

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