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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:27pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Do better research

https://www.isdglobal.org/explainers/us-antifa-groups/
I can't.
I'm not even sure you can read at this point.

Does your image even match the description of what was on the bullets?
Up Arrow, Right Arrow and 3 Down Arrows.
And he said do better research.

I can't.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 5:30pm On Sep 12, 2025
IjeBos:
Trump is already not really talking about this. Instead talking about his ballroom.
Since the shooter is most likely a Republican type, it'll be off the news media by Mon.
That's really pathetic.

I imagine the kind of hurt pride and inner shame basilico must be feeling when things like these happen and the assassin turns out to be republican.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:32pm On Sep 12, 2025
Obrigardo:
That's really pathetic.

I imagine the kind of hurt pride and inner shame basilico must be feeling when things like these happen and the assassin turns out to be republican.
I'm sure they feel it for a sec, but then go into self preserve mode like raumdeuter.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:33pm On Sep 12, 2025
Rifle cartridges from the Charlie Kirk assassination are confirmed marked with Antifa phrases, including lyrics from the Antifa song, “Bella Ciao.” In 2019, Antifa gunman Willem van Spronsen also ended his ICE attack manifesto with the same song.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:34pm On Sep 12, 2025
And additional RIP to George Floyd who not only didn’t preach hate but was also a FATHER.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:36pm On Sep 12, 2025
ijebosb:
I can't.
I'm not even sure you can read at this point.

Does your image even match the description of what was on the bullets?
Up Arrow, Right Arrow and 3 Down Arrows.
And he said do better research.

I can't.
In the image you posted where are the 3 down arrows, up and right arrow?

You need to learn to read
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:38pm On Sep 12, 2025
ijebosb:
I'm sure they feel it for a sec, but then go into self preserve mode like ramdeuter.
The shooter is antifa

Radicalized by the left

Anarchists who want to destroy everything

Very similar to leftist posters on this thread
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by legitnow1: 5:39pm On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
Rifle cartridges from the Charlie Kirk assassination are confirmed marked with Antifa phrases, including lyrics from the Antifa song, “Bella Ciao.” In 2019, Antifa gunman Willem van Spronsen also ended his ICE attack manifesto with the same song.
HIS OWN FATHER TURNED HIM.



IT IS BETTER NOT TO HAVE KIDS AT ALL THAN TO HAVE ONE THAT WILL COMMIT HENIOUS CRIME AND ENDANGER THE WHOLEL FAMILY FROM TOP TO BOTTOM .



IMAGINE HAVING LIVED A QUIET LIFE, ALL YOUR LIFE TO WAKE UP TO THIS ONE MORNING.



I MEAN THEIR ARE FAMILY PROBLEMS BUT ADDED NATIONAL DIMENSION IS TOTATLLY LUDICROUS.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:46pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Will you shut up. Antifa raised their head in the USA in reaction to all the fascist groups that line behind Trump. Who cares where Proud boys fit in the timeline, many Fascist groups have been lining up behind the Chief Klansman Trump before Proud boys. When you practice extremist politics, expect extremist opposition. A President of the USA is supposed to play the middle ground and not incite extremism on either side. That's why he was the most divisive President in USA history and has the worst approval rating ever.
Ibime, your heroes are protecting the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:49pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Antifa is simply Antifascists. If there are no fascists, there won't be antifa.

The diaper wearing President that was always dogwhistling Antifa like an irresponsible guttermouth, was a Fascist and always concerned about Antifa coming out to oppose his Fascist groups like Proud boys etc. I have never seen such blatant racism and fascism from a POTUS before. A real POTUS won't even throw gasoline on that fire because he has no dog in a fight between fascists and Antifascists; and if he has a dog, it won't be the fascists.
Leftism 🤦🏾

I am sure the woman complaining is a proud boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gkn8wX7wA
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:54pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Antifa is not a hate group, and anywhere Antifa is fighting a hate group like your Proud Boys and KKKs, I know which side I'm on.
Ibime
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:01pm On Sep 12, 2025
benalvino3:
Ibime, see your antifa guy. Your problem is proud boys
For the avoidance of doubt, Antifa is not recognised by the Democratic party, retweeted by their politicians, or invited to any Democratic convention, nor are they celebrities, influencers or commentators within the Democratic party. You cannot actually name a member of Antifa

Unlike Proud Boys who are mainstreamed within the Republican party, turning up to their conventions, invited to the White House etc

Extremists always like to tag their opponents with extremism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:04pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
For the avoidance of doubt, Antifa is not recognised by the Democratic party, retweeted by their politicians, or invited to any Democratic convention, nor are they celebrities, influencers or commentators within the Democratic party. You cannot actually name a member of Antifa

Unlike Proud Boys who are mainstreamed within the Republican party, turning up to their conventions, invited to the White House etc

Extremists always like to tag their opponents with extremism
Dude keep quiet jor
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:06pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Guns are needed to defend and protect individuals, If we have less inflamatory and radicalization from the left we will have less of this

Where they think its okay to kill people they dont agree with
How many persons have guns protected rather than destroy in the hands of every tom dick and Harry? Why didn't a gun protect Kirk? It did the opposite.

And why are you Blaming the left for gun violence in the USA (they are probably the folks who want serious reforms on the ownership of a fire arm)? Blames dont handle problems or fix anything.

Address gun control and watch the number of gun violence reduce.. it won't be totally eliminated, however the probability of shootings happening randomly would reduce.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Sep 12, 2025
bayelsaowei:
How many persons have guns protected rather than destroy in the hands of every tom dick and Harry? Why didn't a gun protect Kirk? It did the opposite.

And why are you Blaming the left for gun violence in the USA (they are probably the folks who want serious reforms on the ownership of a fire arm)? Blames dont handle problems or fix anything.

Address gun control and watch the number of gun violence reduce.. it won't be totally eliminated, however the probability of shootings happening randomly would reduce.
For one Kirk there are thousands protected by guns daily

That is why police carry guns and if police cant get to you in time you need guns to protect yourself



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LflruqEMlVU?si=9tHriY3fGQqTigeh
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:22pm On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
Dude keep quiet jor
Truth hurts

Name a member of Antifa

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:27pm On Sep 12, 2025
benalvino3:
Lgbt strikes again and ijebos wants to say he is a trump supporter

Brain rot
He always does that. Trump attempted assassin's were both Republicans to him.. And Trump never got hit by a bullet, it was fragments , you know a bullet fragments in the air ....
He is a sick fella
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Truth hurts

Name a member of Antifa
Proud boys is not antia. It's just a group that was nameshamed by democrat media ..
They are a group that will not let antifa and BLM thugs beat them up, they are ready to exchange blows with them .
When you challenge the left, you know what follows next.. smears
**Tarro was framed by DOJ, hamstrung by a judge and jailed for 22 years from a document 1776 Returns authored by a CIA FBI trained wargamer Samuel Armes , who requested Tarrio's girlfriend to send it to him via Telegram . Tarro never read it but he was accused of possessing a plan to take over Congress***
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 6:32pm On Sep 12, 2025
IjeBos:
As to the bullet. No trans engravings.
Seems everything Bemeruca posted on this topic was misinformation.
The Republican party in a nutshell, non Americans posting misinformation for internet clout.
That's just discord brainrot language.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 6:35pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
In the image you posted where are the 3 down arrows, up and right arrow?

You need to learn to read
He said where are the up, right and 3 down arrows while looking at them.

Even when you're wrong you keep on.
MAGA is going to be a blight on the US.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 6:36pm On Sep 12, 2025
bayelsaowei:
no they dont..

Guns dont kill people.. people kill people..

embarassed embarassed embarassed
What do you think the proportional damage a mad person with a knife could do, compared to a mad person with a gun could do?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:47pm On Sep 12, 2025

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:57pm On Sep 12, 2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:10pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Truth hurts

Name a member of Antifa
This is the part you are supposed to say I am wrong about antifa.

But answer this.

1: Tell us about anytime the proud boys killed anyone

2: Tell us anytime they attacked anyone aside from antifa.

3: Tell us anytime they attacked any democrat

4: Tell us when they burn down an entire block including a police station.

The Proud Boys were formed in 2016 by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian far-right commentator and co-founder of Vice Media, as a self-described "Western chauvinist" fraternal organization. The group emerged during a period of heightened cultural and political polarization in the United States, particularly around the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Below is a concise explanation of why the Proud Boys were founded, based on their stated goals, McInnes’s public statements, and the broader context.

This is when antifa were harassing right wing speakers and beating up trump supporters.

They were formed to counter antifa

Antifa attacked senators and their families. So their leader took pictures with one senator, and a bunch of people on the right. Yeah, a group like that is never a danger, yet Biden left antifa and labelled them terrorists group while it was antifa burning an entire street, attacking government buildings and police station.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:15pm On Sep 12, 2025
ijebosb:
I'm sure they feel it for a sec, but then go into self preserve mode like raumdeuter.
And then they'll come back here later today and tomorrow insulting democrats and black people as violent. They just can't look into themselves.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:19pm On Sep 12, 2025
happney65:
How dare you say this? How dare you? It is the dems that caused it jare. When they abuse other people,it gets them angry and they go and decide to kill their fellow republicans.

No be so? grin grin
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:20pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime answer those questions. Use this for guidance

Stated Purpose and Ideology

Promoting "Western Values": McInnes created the Proud Boys to champion what he called "Western values" (e.g., individualism, capitalism, and traditional masculinity) against perceived threats from progressive ideologies, multiculturalism, and feminism. The group’s manifesto emphasizes pride in Western culture, often framed as superior, and opposition to leftist movements like antifa.

Fraternal Bonding and Humor: Initially presented as a tongue-in-cheek men’s club, the Proud Boys combined drinking, crude humor (e.g., their name comes from a Disney song), and rituals like reciting cereal names or getting tattoos to foster camaraderie. McInnes pitched it as a response to what he saw as the emasculation of men in modern society.

Countering Leftist Activism: The group was formed partly to confront progressive and anarchist groups (e.g., antifa) at protests. McInnes and early members viewed themselves as defenders of free speech and conservative values against "social justice warriors" and political correctness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:22pm On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
This is the part you are supposed to say I am wrong about antifa.

But answer this.

1: Tell us about anytime the proud boys killed anyone

2: Tell us anytime they attacked anyone aside from antifa.

3: Tell us anytime they attacked any democrat

4: Tell us when they burn down an entire block including a police station.

The Proud Boys were formed in 2016 by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian far-right commentator and co-founder of Vice Media, as a self-described "Western chauvinist" fraternal organization. The group emerged during a period of heightened cultural and political polarization in the United States, particularly around the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Below is a concise explanation of why the Proud Boys were founded, based on their stated goals, McInnes’s public statements, and the broader context.

This is when antifa were harassing right wing speakers and beating up trump supporters.

They were formed to counter antifa

Antifa attacked senators and their families. So their leader took pictures with one senator, and a bunch of people on the right. Yeah, a group like that is never a danger, yet Biden left antifa and labelled them terrorists group while it was antifa burning an entire street, attacking government buildings and police station.
Exactly. Proud Boys were demonized by the democrat and media. Anti antifa ( Product of Two negatives is s positive) makes Proud Boys fascists
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:22pm On Sep 12, 2025
bemeruca:
This is the part you are supposed to say I am wrong about antifa.

But answer this.

1: Tell us about anytime the proud boys killed anyone

2: Tell us anytime they attacked anyone aside from antifa.

3: Tell us anytime they attacked any democrat

4: Tell us when they burn down an entire block including a police station.

The Proud Boys were formed in 2016 by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian far-right commentator and co-founder of Vice Media, as a self-described "Western chauvinist" fraternal organization. The group emerged during a period of heightened cultural and political polarization in the United States, particularly around the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Below is a concise explanation of why the Proud Boys were founded, based on their stated goals, McInnes’s public statements, and the broader context.

This is when antifa were harassing right wing speakers and beating up trump supporters.

They were formed to counter antifa

Antifa attacked senators and their families. So their leader took pictures with one senator, and a bunch of people on the right. Yeah, a group like that is never a danger, yet Biden left antifa and labelled them terrorists group while it was antifa burning an entire street, attacking government buildings and police station.
You are a neophyte in Politics.

Antifa is a European group of organisations which was formed to fight against Musolini and later Hitler and was backed by the Allies, most notably the Partisans who operated behind enemy lines in WW2.

I don't know anything about your American Antifa till Trump started mentioning them in 2020 but I know on this side of the pond, I am at no harm walking past a group of Antifa. I don't support them, I just know they won't harm me, simple.

Secondly, Antifa has no organised structure so I don't what are you talking about Tyler Robinson. Anyone can identify with their views, they have no membership. Same way Dylan Roof can subscribe to any of your right wing groups. But if American Antifa is pro-Hamas, then as usual everything dey get k-leg when e reach America. My hand no dey. The Antifa I know is the partisans in Europe that fought behind Nazi lines.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:26pm On Sep 12, 2025
One side believed Speech is violence. That is not the American way to silence peoples speech

This shooter should get the maximum sentence
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