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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:48pm On Sep 12, 2025
A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice.

Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:49pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
There is context in speech,
So, shooters care about context? Interesting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:50pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Dey deceive yourself thinking Nigeria is close to being safer than the US. When you excluded the North, excluded the East, you will also exclude the middle belt of Benue, Plateau Kogi etc

So wetin come remain?
if Kirk was living in lagos, ikoyi or Lekki he would still be alive.

You doubt?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:51pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Guns dont kill people, people especially radicalized leftists kill people
you cant be helped..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:53pm On Sep 12, 2025
budaatum:
So, shooters care about context? Interesting.
That is why the media need to act responsibly and not take conversations out of context
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:53pm On Sep 12, 2025
bayelsaowei:
if Kirk was living in lagos, ikoyi or Lekki he would still be alive.

You doubt?
How many people are murdered in Lagos weekly?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:54pm On Sep 12, 2025
bayelsaowei:
you cant be helped..
I dont need the help, rather radicalized leftists who swallow the media agenda are the ones who need help

Media who call every opponent Nazi fascist and Hitler
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:56pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
When the lunatic criminal comes at you with a gun, How do you stop him? Or you think criminals will not get guns if they want to?
Is America the world's capital for lunatic people? The coach is very silly to say the least.

You are not the only country in the world with crazy people. You are always on the wrong side of issues.

Why are you not asking ......How come only the lunatics in the US have guns in the first place?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:57pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
That is why the media need to act responsibly and not take conversations out of context
I think that is why people (leaders especially) should act responsibly and be careful what they say.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:59pm On Sep 12, 2025
nateevs:
Is America the world's capital for lunatic people? The coach is very silly to say the least.

You are not the only country in the world with crazy people. You are always on the wrong side of issues.

Why are you not asking ......How come only the lunatics in the US have guns in the first place?
Always on the wrong side of which issues? Coming from someone posting from the UK? This is very rich
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:00pm On Sep 12, 2025
budaatum:
I think that is why people (leaders especially) should act responsibly and be careful what they say.
Yes and media should also act responsibly and avoid twisting harmless comments into rhetoric like they did for Cheney and how they labelled everyone fascists Nazis and Hitlers
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:03pm On Sep 12, 2025
FOA's application referred to remarks President Herzog made in October 2023, when he said that all Palestinians in Gaza were "unequivocally" responsible for the 7 October 2023 attacks on southern Israel.

The group said that some of Herzog's remarks were "repeated by senior Israeli military command conducting a campaign of indiscriminate attacks against civilians and civilian objects in Gaza".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/judge-criticises-attorney-general-over-handling-israeli-president-arrest-bid-1
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:14pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
The shooter is antifa. Antifa is part of the far left.
He wrote several antifa stuffs online and on his ammunition
---Suspect Tyler Robinson arrested in Charlie Kirk death is a Caucasian, from a conservative, MAGA Republican supporting family, he is neither an Antifa nor a leftist---no political affiliates---FBI are still in the process of investigating his motives behind the shooting---

---The alleged shooter lived in a $600,000 six-bedroom home in Washington, Utah - around 260 miles south of where the carnage unfolded in Orem---He seemed to have a normal middle class life, trips to Alaska, hunting fishing---His family has since removed images & videos from their facebook accounts---

---His Dad is a 27 year veteran of the sheriff office---turned him in ---he had extensive training / experience with guns from an early age---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:14pm On Sep 12, 2025
IMAliyu2:
We are all fundamentally humans and have similar potentials for vice and virtues, I think anyone of any background has the potential for crime and sainthood. Including people I would consider "my people".

The only difference, is the ability to be reactionary and resort to tribalism if the perpetrator is "an outsider" and when it's from "one of us" all of a sudden the problem is "complex" and we need to meaningful discuss preventions & solutions.
Every human wants to associate with good and dissociate from evil, Like we are proud of those who do well and avoid those who do not

The governor of Utah would rather its not someone from his state just like I will rather its not someone from my family, country or constituency
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:17pm On Sep 12, 2025
So the Charlie Kirk shooter was a 3rd year electricians apprentice who dropped out of Uni after one semester?

I respect Charlie for hitting the streets in every country to debate his points even though I disagree with many of them

I watched his debates at Oxford uni and you could see him exercising great patience (at his age) against many idealistic teens and early twenties a lot of whom are also confused and parroting talking points that come from youthful idealism but not realism.

Las Las he was felled by an electricians apprentice for making himself available to college students for debate

May God protect our children through their teens and early twenties to not fall into radical and terroristic thoughts which many easily succumb to at that age.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:22pm On Sep 12, 2025
feedthenation:
--Suspect Tyler Robinson arrested in Charlie Kirk death is a Caucasian, from a conservative, MAGA Republican supporting family, he is neither an Antifa nor a leftist---no political affiliates---FBI are still in the process of investigating his motives behind the shooting---

---The alleged shooter lived in a $600,000 six-bedroom home in Washington, Utah - around 260 miles south of where the carnage unfolded in Orem---He seemed to have a normal middle class life, trips to Alaska, hunting fishing---His family has since removed images & videos from their facebook accounts---

---His Dad is a 27 year veteran of the sheriff office---turned him in ---he had extensive training / experience with guns from an early age---
His parents are conservative and he is an antifa leftist who got radicalized and resorted to killing those he disagreed with

He is part of an Antifa discord group
He has antifa signs on his ammunition
He posted antifa Italian chants Bella ciao bella ciao

He is part of the violent left
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 10:26pm On Sep 12, 2025
The utter shame I would feel now if I was one of these accounts!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:30pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
So the Charlie Kirk shooter was a 3rd year electricians apprentice who dropped out of Uni after one semester?

I respect Charlie for hitting the streets in every country to debate his points even though I disagree with many of them

I watched his debates at Oxford uni and you could see he exercising great patience (at his age) against many idealistic teens and early twenties a lot of whom are also confused and parroting talking points that come from youthful idealism but not realism.

Las Las he was felled by an electricians apprentice for making himself available to college students for debate

May God protect our children through their teens and early twenties to not fall into radical and terroristic thoughts which many easily succumb to at that age.
Defund the police
Billionaires should not exist
Speech is violence
Eat the rich
Globalize the intifada
Abolish ICE
Decriminalize crime
No borders
Abolish prison

Amen to your last paragraph remember the Naija boy in UK who murdered people and claimed he joined ISIS, Michael Adebolajo or those white kids who radicalize online and go to join ISIS
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:31pm On Sep 12, 2025
Obrigardo:
The utter shame I would feel now if I was one of these accounts!
You’d have to have some awareness in order to feel shame. They’re incapable of that.

If the war they’ve been salivating for actually comes, you’ll see they have no wind beneath their wings. Just empty noisy barrels.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:38pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
His parents are conservative and he is an antifa leftist who got radicalized and resorted to killing those he disagreed with

He is part of an Antifa discord group
He has antifa signs on his ammunition
He posted antifa Italian chants Bella ciao bella ciao

He is part of the violent left
---Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution---

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

Editor's Note: An earlier version of this article detailed how an internal law enforcement bulletin said that ammunition recovered following the Charlie Kirk shooting was engraved with expressions of “transgender and anti-fascist ideology." Justice Department officials later urged caution about the bulletin by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, saying it may not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition, and the article was updated Thursday to reflect that. This editor's note was appended on Friday, Sept. 12, after Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said the engravings included one that said “Hey fascist!” along with other messages and symbols. He gave no indication that the ammunition included any transgender references.

An early bulletin circulated widely among law enforcement officials said investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. But some officials later Thursday cautioned against reaching conclusions based on the internal report.

What is fascism?
The definition of fascism, according to Merriam-Webster, is "a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition."

Examples include Italian dictator Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany dictator Adolf Hitler.

What is 'Bella Ciao'?
The song is an Italian folk anthem sung by the anti-fascist resistance movement during World War II.

It is commonly heard on Liberation Day in Italy, which is celebrated every April 25 and commemorates the country's liberation from Nazi occupation and fascist rule in World War II.


---Felon 47 wants and is already behaving like a dictator---operating a centralized autocratic government---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:41pm On Sep 12, 2025
feedthenation:
--Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution---

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

Editor's Note: An earlier version of this article detailed how an internal law enforcement bulletin said that ammunition recovered following the Charlie Kirk shooting was engraved with expressions of “transgender and anti-fascist ideology." Justice Department officials later urged caution about the bulletin by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, saying it may not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition, and the article was updated Thursday to reflect that. This editor's note was appended on Friday, Sept. 12, after Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said the engravings included one that said “Hey fascist!” along with other messages and symbols. He gave no indication that the ammunition included any transgender references.

An early bulletin circulated widely among law enforcement officials said investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. But some officials later Thursday cautioned against reaching conclusions based on the internal report.

What is fascism?
The definition of fascism, according to Merriam-Webster, is "a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition."

Examples include Italian dictator Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany dictator Adolf Hitler.

What is 'Bella Ciao'?
The song is an Italian folk anthem sung by the anti-fascist resistance movement during World War II.

It is commonly heard on Liberation Day in Italy, which is celebrated every April 25 and commemorates the country's liberation from Nazi occupation and fascist rule in World War II.
Writes antifa posts, post antifa songs has antifa signs

He is Antifa
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:42pm On Sep 12, 2025
Obrigardo:
The utter shame I would feel now if I was one of these accounts!
---They are taking their statements after Felon 47---after he declines to call for national unity after Charlie Kirk killing---when he tells Fox News ‘the radicals on the left are the problem’ and refuses to seek common way forward---he surely enjoys the politics of division---


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/trump-fox-friends-charlie-kirk-shooting
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:44pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Defund the police
Billionaires should not exist
Speech is violence
Eat the rich
Globalize the intifada
Abolish ICE
Decriminalize crime
No borders
Abolish prison
Their fellow teenagers will be clapping and thinking they are winning the debate

I was at a dinner party recently with my guy and his 18 year old daughter where she expressed that she hates Keir Starmer, I'm like how, she said "he is dividing the left". Basically any pragmatism in leadership to that age group is seen as a mortal sin. Keir Starmer sin to them is not giving into unions, the anti-Jooish lobby or not allowing the radical Corbynites take over the Labour Party and start demanding freebies everywhere. Thank God he even got his deputy Angela Rayner to resign, one fewl-ish lady without a single GCSE to her name always shouting for Government to take care of everyone. How can I be led by someone that didn't pass secondary school exam, who is basically a welfare hustler. Their whole political career is about shouting
the loudest to their Constituents that Govt should be taking care of them from cradle to grave, meanwhile nothing dey her brain and she is a failure in life outside rabble rousing to the electorate.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:46pm On Sep 12, 2025
Yesterday Nancy wanted the death penalty for the shooter because she was told by Trump that it was a leftist.

Today they know it’s a republican boy, she wants to pray for him to find Jesus instead. What happened to the death penalty? It’s only good for the others but not their kind?

There’s something deeply deeply wrong with these people. I’m glad all of this is happening for everyone to see.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:52pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Writes antifa posts, post antifa songs has antifa signs

He is Antifa
---According to Utah officials and police interviews with his family---Tyler Robinson hated Charlie Kirk because Kirk wasn't conservative enough--- Robinson reportedly admired Nick Fuentes---

---So will you say that Nick Fuentes is a fascist---when one of America First members used AF ciao bella for his birthday greetings---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:59pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Their fellow teenagers will be clapping and thinking they are winning the debate

I was at a dinner party recently with my guy and his 18 year old daughter where she expressed that she hates Keir Starmer, I'm like how, she said "he is dividing the left". Basically any pragmatism in leadership to that age group is seen as a mortal sin. Keir Starmer sin to them is not giving into unions, the anti-Jooish lobby or not allowing the radical Corbynites take over the Labour Party and start demanding freebies everywhere.
A young Nigerian-American boy that I know too. His parents are quite comfortable, He got into college and he went left he started donating his money to AOC, His dad started noticing that all his prayer and talking points at home is for God to punish the rich and take away from the rich while living in his parents $1m home. Eating his parents food and driving their car.

After a while he stopped going to classes and dropped out of Uni around covid time. Just want to sit at home and play video games. Later they told him if he is not going to school he has to get a job, He got a job and moved out then he started realizing how real life is

The mom still cannot understand that a child of 2 Graduates will choose not to go to University, she still tries to keep an eye on him, do grocery shopping for him so that things wont get desperate fr him. You know you cant just cut him off 100%

I really feel for the parents cos at a point they started blaming themselves, Maybe it was being too strict on him as a child, Maybe its because they don't attend Naija churches, Maybe they should have sent him to Naija to "learn sense"

Thank God he even got his deputy to resign, one fewl-ish ladies without a single GCSE to her name always shouting for Government to take care of everyone. How can I be led by someone that didn't pass secondary school exam, who is basically a welfare hustler
So you guys have your Mamdani, who wants to be Mayor of the city that is the symbol of capitalism and wealth in the world yet wants to be a Socialist and chase away the rich, have govt owned Grocery stores, Open the prison, No one should be poor in America,
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:03pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
Their fellow teenagers will be clapping and thinking they are winning the debate

I was at a dinner party recently with my guy and his 18 year old daughter where she expressed that she hates Keir Starmer, I'm like how, she said "he is dividing the left". Basically any pragmatism in leadership to that age group is seen as a mortal sin. Keir Starmer sin to them is not giving into unions, the anti-Jooish lobby or not allowing the radical Corbynites take over the Labour Party and start demanding freebies everywhere. Thank God he even got his deputy Angela Rayner to resign, one fewl-ish lady without a single GCSE to her name always shouting for Government to take care of everyone. How can I be led by someone that didn't pass secondary school exam, who is basically a welfare hustler. Their whole political career is about shouting
the loudest to their Constituents that Govt should be taking care of them from cradle to grave, meanwhile nothing dey her brain and she is a failure in life outside rabble rousing to the electorate.
I watched this surrounded with PBD vs 20 socialists
One guy claimed he had submitted over 400 job applications, PBD offered him a position to come and interview at his company he started giving excuses of how he doesnt like Florida, If he is paying a decent wage or a living wage (While earning Zero)

One said she has mental illness and PBD offered to use his capitalist money to help her get care and a psychologist, she refused

Just entitled and full of excuses

These type of people who buy into that welfare mentality that society should take care of them simply because they exist later become disgruntled when others are moving ahead and become envious and hateful
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:03pm On Sep 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Writes antifa posts, post antifa songs has antifa signs

He is Antifa
You're not done being wrong today?
It's ok to feel embarrassment.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:04pm On Sep 12, 2025
The question bugging my sleep now is will Ca$h Patel pay Tyler Robinsons dad the $100k reward for turning him in?

What's fair is fair.

At least let the man get small solace while losing a son.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:06pm On Sep 12, 2025
Ibime:
The question bugging my sleep now is will Ca$h Patel pay Tyler Robinsons dad the $100k reward for turning him in?

What's fair is fair.

At least let the man get small solace while losing a son.
CASH Patel. Maybe the Pastor who advised his dad to turn him in will also have a claim for the money or at least the tithe from it
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