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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7:
cococandy:
Media houses under Trump cowtowing to him have become such a disgrace to “journalism”. Now stuff like this is done intentionally. They lay one of these eggs and suddenly everyone on social media runs with it and it doesn’t matter if it’s been refuted. It is now the narrative.

Glad the grandma was so offended at the insinuation that her grandson might be a leftist she had to come out and speak the truth. Better a cold blooded murderer than a liberal I guess.
The Guardian is very liberal and the WSJ is conservative but have in no way been cozying up to Trump, quite the contrary. I have not read any such quote in any of their articles but if they made a mistake and corrected it, it’s not because they are a joke.

Social media is a much bigger problem and the way people process information obtained from there shows the problems with our education system.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:17am On Sep 15, 2025
COOL10:
More and more people are finding their way back to God because of Charlie Kirk.

Glory be to Jesus 🙏😊🙏
They are not finding their way back to God, they are finding their way back to some church. If they went back to Church because of Kirk, God was not involved.
God is incompatible with Charlie Kirk.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
New International Version
13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:21am On Sep 15, 2025
Labic:
I hope you are not insinuating with this article that, he's racist?
He just said patently racist things.
Or do you think the quotes you read were not racist.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:52am On Sep 15, 2025
Maeve7:
The Guardian is very liberal and the WSJ is conservative but have in no way been cozying up to Trump, quite the contrary. I have not read any such quote in any of their articles but if they made a mistake and corrected it, it’s not because they are a joke.

Social media is a much bigger problem and the way people process information obtained from there shows the problems with our education system .
I want to be hopeful too. I used to like and cite them often before the election. I would be happy to know they’re not part of those capitulating to him but a media house as big as they are not verifying such important information before taking to press is a huge oversight that I can’t help but think they’re a becoming a joke.

I’d say they’re still better than traditional conservative media because those ones won’t even retract or apologize.

Then again the Smithsonian and Havard did let Trump bully them into doing his will. The same way so called “liberal media” CBS and MSNBC let go of some of the most watched Trump critics even though they claim that’s not the reason.

Since Trump came around, free speech has not been free unfortunately.

@bold, absolutely true.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:53am On Sep 15, 2025
nateevs:
Oh fill me in please. I am just getting acquainted. I just saw that in response to a question, what would you do if your 10-year-old daughter got r××ped and she got pregnant?.....

He responded saying the baby will be delivered.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOcIE2OEq4N/?igsh=MTA2dDBtcTNtMWZ2MA==
Everywhere you turn there’s something awful he said and left in his wake.

I was looking for the clip of him where he said illegal immigrants should be ☠️. I’ve seen it before but couldn’t find it now.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:18am On Sep 15, 2025
IjeBos:
They are not finding their way back to God, they are finding their way back to some church. If they went back to Church because of Kirk, God was not involved.
God is incompatible with Charlie Kirk.
You are right. Sometimes it takes an evil act to jolt people into seeking answers beyond the realms of human ability. Seeking divine guidance. You saw the strength of character by Kirk's wife which she attributes to her faith
Churches were jam-packed yesterday.
It's not for you to judge whom God is pleased with. Jesus told the thief besides him on the cross that he would be with him in heaven , his last minute repentance.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 6:24am On Sep 15, 2025
cococandy:
I want to be hopeful too. I used to like and cite them often before the election. I would be happy to know they’re not part of those capitulating to him but a media house as big as they are not verifying such important information before taking to press is a huge oversight that I can’t help but think they’re a becoming a joke.

I’d say they’re still better than traditional conservative media because those ones won’t even retract or apologize.

Then again the Smithsonian and Havard did let Trump bully them into doing his will. The same way so called “liberal media” CBS and MSNBC let go of some of the most watched Trump critics even though they claim that’s not the reason.

Since Trump came around, free speech has not been free unfortunately.

@bold, absolutely true.
They work under pressure. Mistakes happen. But whether they happen or not, most people will believe whatever they want to believe. Facts don’t matter. Have you seen one person here change their mind about Trump or any issue even if they were given evidence?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:27am On Sep 15, 2025
feedthenation:
---What does the democrat party have to do with Tyler Robinson being an 'alleged' transgender (when everything else fails, the right wing media wants to gum transgender on him)---that he is allegedly in a relationship with his roommate still doesn't change the fact that he is:

-young
-male
-caucasian
-religious (mormon)
-conservative MAGA supporting family

---It shouldn't be a surprise to you that a number of conservative, GOP, MAGA men love a little bit of down low guys---


---Check out Caitlyn Jenner, Blair White, Buck Angel, Nick Fuentes---who are right wing trans people---
Tyler was a republican in 2018. Tulsi Gabbard was also a democrat , ran for president but she is now a staunch Trump supporter. Anyone can change. Actually he had a 4.0 GPA then his parents took him to an indoctrination centre aka university ,where his views turned fully radical left Democrats are desperate to tie him to Republican or far right. Look at how many teaching members are rejoicing in Kirk's assassination. Who wants their kids taught by such.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:29am On Sep 15, 2025
Maeve7:
They work under pressure. Mistakes happen. But whether they happen or not, most people will believe whatever they want to believe. Facts don’t matter. Have you seen one person here change their mind about Trump or any issue even if they were given evidence?
I’ve given up hope on these ones here. That’s why most them stay blocked. It’s clear facts do not matter.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 6:30am On Sep 15, 2025
COOL10:
More and more people are finding their way back to God because of Charlie Kirk.

Glory be to Jesus 🙏😊🙏

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 6:58am On Sep 15, 2025
cococandy:
Everywhere you turn there’s something awful he said and left in his wake.

I was looking for the clip of him where he said illegal immigrants should be ☠️. I’ve seen it before but couldn’t find it now.
This is the demon some goats want us to mourn.

Tueh.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 6:59am On Sep 15, 2025
[quote author=Maeve7 post=136803980][/quote]God bless you. American MAGA in a nutshell.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:11am On Sep 15, 2025
basilico:
Tyler was a republican in 2018. Tulsi Gabbard was also a democrat , ran for president but she is now a staunch Trump supporter. Anyone can change. Actually he had a 4.0 GPA then his parents took him to an indoctrination centre aka university ,where his views turned fully radical left Democrats are desperate to tie him to Republican or far right. Look at how many teaching members are rejoicing in Kirk assassination.
If a university can turn around conservative upbringing in one semester, you people should re-think the upbringing. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:12am On Sep 15, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
God bless you. American MAGA in a nutshell.
God bless you too, sis.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:13am On Sep 15, 2025
cococandy:
I’ve given up hope on these ones here. That’s why most them stay blocked. It’s clear facts do not matter.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:24am On Sep 15, 2025
Maeve7:
If a university can turn around conservative upbringing in one semester, you people should re-think the upbringing. grin
Liberal indoctrination centre


“A public school teacher has been suspended after allegedly showing a video of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to students as young as 10 in his class, authorities in Canada said.

The teacher also suggested that Kirk deserved to be killed, and gave the young students a speech about anti-fascism and transgender issues, according to a report.

“Several students from his class went home and complained to their parents, traumatized at witnessing the on-camera death, which they were forced to witness numerous times over,” a source told the Toronto Sun after the shocking incident at a school in Toronto on Thursday.”
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:30am On Sep 15, 2025
basilico:
Liberal indoctrination centre


“A public school teacher has been suspended after allegedly showing a video of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to students as young as 10 in his class, authorities in Canada said.

The teacher also suggested that Kirk deserved to be killed, and gave the young students a speech about anti-fascism and transgender issues, according to a report.

“Several students from his class went home and complained to their parents, traumatized at witnessing the on-camera death, which they were forced to witness numerous times over,” a source told the Toronto Sun after the shocking incident at a school in Toronto on Thursday.”
You are living proof of MAGA indoctrination at its best cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:32am On Sep 15, 2025
Maeve7:
.
AmazonTopaz:
.American MAGA in a nutshell.
On Sep 13, Trump said “Smart people don’t like me.”

No shiet Sherlock🤔.

Well I hope his followers do not take it personal. That’s If they even understood.

Cue the “That was taken out of context.. what he meant was bla bla bla” in 1,2,3…
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SpaceX: 7:33am On Sep 15, 2025
Maeve7:
If a university can turn around conservative upbringing in one semester, you people should re-think the upbringing. grin
He was also a bootyhunter just like IjeBos that can add to the problem.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SpaceX: 7:36am On Sep 15, 2025
basilico:
Liberal indoctrination centre


“A public school teacher has been suspended after allegedly showing a video of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to students as young as 10 in his class, authorities in Canada said.

The teacher also suggested that Kirk deserved to be killed, and gave the young students a speech about anti-fascism and transgender issues, according to a report.

“Several students from his class went home and complained to their parents, traumatized at witnessing the on-camera death, which they were forced to witness numerous times over,” a source told the Toronto Sun after the shocking incident at a school in Toronto on Thursday.”
That's all they know; indoctrination, violence and gaslighting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:37am On Sep 15, 2025
Meanwhile a Federal Court has blocked an Obama judge order to continue funding the most extensive baby murder organization in history , the Planned Parenthood.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/14/federal-appeals-court-blocks-order-mandating-taxpayer-funds-planned-parenthood/


The democrats have nothing to stand on. So far last I checked Trump is 18-0 at the Supreme Court. Judges are overruling the Executive granting injuctions which are then overturned months later.
The Senate democrats have stalled over 600 Trump nominees that generally require bipartisan support ,GOP has had it and will now use a majority floor vote to confirm nominees in batches. Way to go.Democrars are just whiny saboteurs.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Maeve7:
You are living proof of MAGA indoctrination at its best cheesy
Tell me why I should support democrats who rejoiced in the assassination . Just one reason . You need to look at the mirror .
After Kirk's death TPUSA has received over 18000 requests from schools to open local chapters.
JD Vance is hosting Charlie Kirk podcast tonight.
Meanwhile the evil sick democrats are at it again. Can't leave the dead in peace.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SpaceX: 7:52am On Sep 15, 2025
cococandy:
On Sep 13, Trump said “Smart people don’t like me.”

No shiet Sherlock🤔.

Well I hope his followers do not take it personal. That’s If they even understood.

Cue the “That was taken out of context.. what he meant was bla bla bla” in 1,2,3…
You already know the truth but too quick to make him look bad. He was referring to "corny people". May God have mercy on you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SpaceX: 7:55am On Sep 15, 2025
basilico:
Tell me why I should support democrats who rejoiced in the assassination . Just one reason . You need to look at the mirror .
They have no soulhuh So-called party of "tolerance"...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:09am On Sep 15, 2025
basilico:
Tell me why I should support democrats who rejoiced in the assassination . Just one reason . You need to look at the mirror .
After Kirk's death TPUSA has received over 18000 requests from schools to open local chapters.
JD Vance is hosting Charlie Kirk podcast tonight.
Meanwhile the evil sick democrats are at it again. Can't leave the dead in peace.
Who asked you to support democrats? You’re too far gone for this question.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:29am On Sep 15, 2025
Charlie Kirk show. His views on reparations and Black on black Crimes.

Reparations
In a November 21, 2019, episode of The Charlie Kirk Show (a live listener Q&A segment), Kirk responded to a question about reparations for slavery. He called the idea "racist, stupid, and condescending to Black people," arguing it unfairly punishes modern taxpayers with no direct connection to historical slavery. His key points included:
_New immigrants (many non-white) would be forced to fund it despite having no ties to U.S. slavery.
_White Americans whose ancestors never owned slaves would be penalized for others' past actions.
_If the U.S. economy was truly "built on the backs of slaves," states like Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas—former slave-heavy economies—should be the wealthiest, but they are among the poorest, undermining claims of systemic economic inheritance from slavery.

Kirk framed reparations as divisive and ineffective, suggesting it perpetuates victimhood rather than promoting individual responsibility.

Black on black Crimes.
In a 2022 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show titled "A Shocking Exposé of Black-On-Black Crime with Heather Mac Donald," Kirk discussed the topic in a Q&A-style interview prompted by listener interest in rising urban crime rates (though not a direct caller question, it addressed common audience-submitted themes on crime and race). Joined by commentator Heather Mac Donald, Kirk emphasized personal and cultural accountability over systemic racism as the primary driver. He highlighted FBI statistics showing disproportionate Black involvement in violent crime (e.g., 50% of murders despite being 13% of the population), attributing it to factors like fatherlessness in Black communities (citing 70%+ single-parent households) and Democratic policies in cities that he claimed enable crime through soft-on-crime approaches. Kirk argued that "Black-on-Black crime" is a real issue ignored by the media to avoid "racist" labels, and solutions lie in family values, school choice, and law enforcement rather than "defund the police" rhetoric. He stated, "The real epidemic isn't white supremacy; it's the breakdown of the family and accountability in these communities
Sounds a reasonable answer to me. This was a guy you could ask anything and he would respond.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:32am On Sep 15, 2025
cococandy:
On Sep 13, Trump said “Smart people don’t like me.”

No shiet Sherlock🤔.

Well I hope his followers do not take it personal. That’s If they even understood.

Cue the “That was taken out of context.. what he meant was bla bla bla” in 1,2,3…
Like I said..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:43am On Sep 15, 2025
budaatum:
Someone commented.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
I've asked Grok full context on the issue with black pilot.
Kirk and the panel arguing that DEI policies prioritize race and gender over merit, potentially compromising safety in high-stakes fields like aviation. They referenced recent incidents, such as a December 2022 midair incident involving a United jet, to amplify concerns about lowered standards. Kirk framed his comments as a "prudent" reaction created by these policies, not inherent bias, and emphasized that he believes anyone can be a qualified pilot regardless of race. However, he expressed suspicion toward DEI-driven hires, suggesting it fosters doubt about qualifications.
Key Excerpts from the Episode (Transcribed from Available Clips and Reports)The conversation builds from general DEI criticism to the specific pilot example. Here's the fuller dialogue around the core quote:Setup (Panel Discussion on DEI in Aviation):
Posobiec: "United Airlines is pushing this hard... They're saying 50% of new pilots will be women or people of color. But right now, only 19% are. So, are they going to lower the bar?"
Kolvet: "It's not just about representation; it's about forcing quotas in a field where excellence is non-negotiable. We've seen this in the military—standards dropped for diversity."
Kirk: "Exactly. And look at the FAA under Obama—they scrapped merit-based tests for air traffic controllers to get more diversity, even if it meant less capable people. Now it's pilots. We're putting lives at risk for wokeness."
Kirk's Main Remarks (Around 50:19):
Kirk: "I'm sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.' Because now I've been conditioned to think that way by these DEI policies. It's not who I am, that's not what I believe... But that's the reality the left has created. They're making us suspicious of qualified people just because of their skin color. Of course I believe anybody of any skin color can become a qualified pilot. But when companies brag about quotas that outpace actual interest or talent pools, it makes you wonder: Is this person the best, or did they check a diversity box?"
Neff: "It's the left's fault for turning hiring into a racial game. Now every minority in a cockpit looks like a DEI hire."
Posobiec: "And passengers deserve to know if safety is being traded for optics."



The context was about United Airlines increasing POC and women rates from 19% to 50%. The quote doesn't point out that, just a single sentence cut off from full context to prove Kirk was a racist .
I think I'd commented on the United Airlines plan back then, the search feature here is pathetic.A plane is unlike a car where you can stop in the middle of the highway as long as there are no crazies behind you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Labic: 8:51am On Sep 15, 2025
budaatum:
I am insinuating a dislike for what he expresses.
interesting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:28am On Sep 15, 2025
budaatum:
Someone commented.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
Full context of pot smoking lesbian WNBA player.


Key Excerpts from the Episode (Transcribed from Media Matters Clip and Podcast Audio)The segment aired shortly after the White House announced the swap on December 8, 2022. Kirk opened by expressing superficial relief at Griner's release but quickly pivoted to outrage. Here's the fuller context around the core quote (starting around the 15:20 mark in the episode, available on platforms like Rumble and Apple Podcasts):Setup (Discussing the Prisoner Swap):

Kirk: "Brittney Griner is back home. As an American, I'm glad she's free. But let's be real—this is a pot-smoking, America-hating WNBA player who was caught with hash oil in Russia, and we're trading her for Viktor Bout, the 'Merchant of Death'? This guy was arming terrorists, trying to kill Americans. And Paul Whelan, a Marine vet who's been rotting in a Russian gulag for years, is still there. Why? Because he's not a celebrity athlete with the right identity politics."
Kirk's Main Remarks (The Controversial Line):
Kirk
: "You have to wonder, and I know this sounds a little cruel, but is this WNBA privilege? That if you're a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States Marine? I mean, think about it. Griner gets the full-court press from the media, celebrities rallying for her, the Vice President meeting her plane. Meanwhile, our veterans, our real heroes like Whelan, get crickets. It's all about the optics—race, sexuality, anti-America vibes. If you're checking those boxes, you're golden. But if you're a straight white guy in uniform? Tough luck."
Follow-Up in the Segment:
He continued: "Politico just reported that Paul Whelan is still in a Russian prison because he isn’t a Black, gay WNBA player. That's the reality the left has created. We're prioritizing symbols over substance. Griner hates the flag—she kneeled during the anthem—but now she's a hero? And Bout walks free to maybe sell more missiles. This is what happens when you let wokeness run foreign policy."
Kirk then transitioned to listener calls, where he fielded questions echoing his points, such as one caller asking if the swap showed "Biden's priorities are upside down." He agreed, adding: "It's not about ransoming Americans; it's about ransoming the narrative


Another statement taken completely out of context, though it wasn't exactly in good taste.The issue was about Biden priorities not the habits of the WNBA
Griner has been caught lashing out at Catyln Clark. Lip readers and viral clips suggested she said "trash" followed by "f***ing white girl," which many interpreted as a racial slur aimed at Catyln Clark


Who is the racist here
And BTW calling a lesbian who smokes weed a pot smoking lesbian is worse than calling Trump Hitler 😅😅😅. Don't yiu dare do dat.
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