₦airaland Forum

Baxilexi:
I guess the gulf countries are not working well.

We have natural resources, that if managed properly the government has all that it needs to attend to its duties. Cut down the size of government, adopt fiscal discipline and Nigeria would work with minimal taxation.

nairalanda1:
Yes, you assume I don't support tackling corruption, and I am here to tell you you are wrong.

But if we tackle corruption, we still cannot achieve the good life on a budget that is basically in pounds...14 billion pounds. Meanwhile the UK that you want us to be like spends 178 billion pounds per annum for its NHS.

Oga, we should fight corruption, but we should vote in a government that would make us an industrial and by extension richer nation

Hope you get me, good sir.?

SeeWahala:
Ooohh! you this nairalander1

Why is it that whenever I say something to provoke your 'vawulence' you always find a way to douse the fire in a very calm manner?

Why are you like this? can't you 'lose it's for even a single post? Are you human? Nigerian? 🤔

nairalanda1:
And the core issues also is

1. Less than 30% of Nigerians pay tax. Yes, I am not lying, and I am not saying there is no corruption. The issue is most of us are in the informal sector, where there is no government taxation

2.Most government income comes from oil. Only 1.8m bpd which is enough if we were 1million people, not 230 million

3. Our budgets are so tiny for a nation our size. 30 trillion naira with 148trillion debt . Okay, assuming no corruption, is that enough? No.(30 TRILLION Naira is just 20 billion dollars...or 15 bn pound sterling. For comparison...NHS UK spends something like at least 170 billion pound sterling annually.

The only mismangement I see is that government has not diversified the economy. Yes, corruption is a problem. But it is not the whole story. Nigeria is also an oil dependent country. We can only become rich if we become what uk has become...an industrial , diversified economy country. THAT IS WHY APC IS USELESS.

Corruption has to end, but without corruption, we can't do as well as UK.

Mindlog:
In simple words, how can more Nigerians be motivated to pay tax?

Abdul05:
Na only nigeria You pay tax and still go Contribute money for transformer Wey no go work..


Bro, suffering dey naija..

lawani:
People pay tax by force in all countries. If the governor of the average Nigerian state want one million income tax payers he will get it easily. The average state have more than one million people earning income at different addresses

yorosstores:
The usual excuse — do you think advanced countries developed without taxation first?

Something is seriously wrong with these immigrants.

Every year they adjust taxes to continue to provide those services. But you think nigeria must provide the services fiest before taxing. You need your head checked.

And they will go, oh the money will be embezzled, you think there is no corruption in the US or UK? Pay first and demand accountability.

Or we just keep blaming and remain where we are.

Buccalcavity2:
What is the per capita revenue from oil in gulf countries vs Nigeria? They can afford zero tax but Nigeria cannot!
The annoying part is that some are already paying taxes, The majotity of which are going to get a relief from this tax law. The main complainaners are the people that never paid and are not willing to pay! Its crazy! Make i dey pay tax but you do NOT want to pay because you are in the informal sector! Yet you want to use amenities like me.
Anybody complaining about the tax law should get his brain checked!

BlackViper:
As seen on X



https://x.com/Row_Haastrup/status/1969640300927992214?t=Qsel4yBNlOdUSgYzUOOJIg&s=19[/quote]I wrote this article few weeks ago.

https://www.nairaland.com/8511399/nigeria-only-country-where-poverty

lawani:
It is government that is not serious. It is easy to make everybody pay once you fix minimum wage. If you own a shop you must pay yourself above minimum wage and pay your workers minimum wage on which tax is deductible

Mindlog:
And why are the governors not getting the one million income tax payers in their states?

Baxilexi:
I guess the gulf countries are not working well.

We have natural resources, that if managed properly the government has all that it needs to attend to its duties.

Cut down the size of government, adopt fiscal discipline and Nigeria would work with minimal taxation.

edet19892015:
Unless you understand your role in society, you can never make any meaningful contribution.

According to the Greeks, they are three types of people on Earth,
1. The idiots,
2. The tribesmen, and
3. The citizens.

Studies show only 10% of Africans are citizens.
The remaining 90% are either tribesmen or idiots.

1. When the Greeks used the word "Idiot", they did not use it as a curse word.
Idiots are people who just don’t care.
If they sit for exams, they will cheat.
If they are in government they will steal.

An idiot does not care at all, if he eats bananas he throws the peels anywhere instead of putting them in a trash bin.

IDIOTS won't attend monthly neighborhood meetings. They won't pay security dues. They won't contribute to community development. Even when they see or know about something that will harm others in the community they won't report it. When they see/know/have something that will benefit their community they won't share.

In fact, Idiots don't care to register for or vote in an election, yet they complain the most. If they register to vote, IDIOTS will sell their votes for peanuts.

According to the Greeks, some societies have more idiots than tribesmen and citizens.

2. The next set of people are "Tribesmen", these are people that look at everything from the point of view of their tribe.

These are people that believe in you only if you are part of their tribe.
It can be terrible to have a tribesman as a leader, he will alienate the rest.

When the Greeks talk about tribes, it’s not just about ethnicity, they also consider religion, gang membership, group membership, party membership and even cult membership as a tribe.

A great percentage of Africans are tribesmen, because they view everything from the point of view of their tribes. They trust only their tribesmen

3. The last group are "Citizens".
These are people who like to do things the right way.
They will respect traffic light rules even if no one is watching them.

They drive within speed limits.
They respect the laws, and won’t cheat in exams.
In government, they won’t steal.
They are compassionate and give to others to promote their well-being.

Citizens often promote projects that benefit everyone.
The Greeks called this group "The Citizens".

Some countries have more citizens than tribesmen and idiots, others have so many idiots.

A tribesman can become a citizen through orientation.
And an idiot can become a citizen by training and constant enforcement of the law.

But things fall apart if you elect an idiot or tribesman to lead you if he has not been reformed.

Where do you belong? Are you an idiot, a tribesman or a citizen? Reflect on your life.
Reflect about your immediate community, city, state and nation.

#EdetEdemAkpan #Share

Buccalcavity2:
Dont confuse yourself. That is how it is set up currently. Once you have an earning, it is tax deductible based on apt gradation. What has been happening before now is that the govt had no system and requisite law to track "informal" earnings. So now it is implemented. Theres already law guiding how business owners should pay taxes!
Dont join multitude to support nonsense. This is long overdue

nairalanda1:
Yes because in Nigeria, less than 30% of the population pays taxes..in the UK it's probably the majority of the population.

And the average Nigerian won't see the problem

Same issue with electricity

Amarachieze:
It is not a 🚀 science but a simple political-economy theory; social, political and economic policies or behaviors thrives in a political-economy that is conducive to such behaviors or in this case policies.

The Nigerian political economy is highly corrupt and not conducive for policies such as the new tax system and subsidy removal. None of these policies will work well with the kind of political class will have in Nigeria

anonimi:
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events.

He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics.

The slowpoke doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

― Bertolt Brecht

SarkinYarki:
If you like give Tinubu 600 billion dollars a year budget nothing will change , these people are mindless criminals out to loot , every decision they take is just to whet their greed ...when he resumed didn't he immediately approve a 15 trillion Naira contract for a deceptive coastal road ? Immediately paid 10 percent mobilization and they ended up doing less than 15 KMS total and left the site ? Keep supporting these mindless evil being okay

CSTRR:
Everybody in Nigeria pays taxes one way or the other, as long as you buy goods and services.

If you don't know this yet, then you shouldn't be taken seriously.

Baxilexi:
The government has lost public trust hence why this new tax law will cause more chaos than praise.

They’ve mismanaged the countries resources, removed all forms of succor and now still wish to pauperize struggling Nigerians.

I would advise that the tax law be suspended till Nigerians can see practical use of our commonwealth, not cars, houses and largesse.

Also, they need to reorganize the tax categories. A Nigerian earning 3 million NGN per annum is poor. That’s less than $2000 USD.
Put rent, energy, transportation, fees, healthcare, feeding, personal needs and utilities into the equation and there’s no way the FIRS Boss can justify the taxation.

lawani:
It is very difficult to know the earning of any business. Therefore most tax income come from paye or personal income tax of employees

Baxilexi:
I guess the gulf countries are not working well.

We have natural resources, that if managed properly the government has all that it needs to attend to its duties. Cut down the size of government, adopt fiscal discipline and Nigeria would work with minimal taxation.

Abdul05:
Na only nigeria You pay tax and still go Contribute money for transformer Wey no go work..


Bro, suffering dey naija..

Buccalcavity2:
Lol. You expose your ignorance. It is not VERY difficult to know earnings of business. Go and read the financial act recently signed and you will know that it is not difficult. You seriously think your environment is diff from england, france.....Humans are same all over the world. Biz concepts are same. If they can track itin thier country, Nigeria can track hers. Lets not be negative

lawani:
Before a country can work very well, half of the GDP must be taken as taxes

BlackViper:
As seen on X



https://x.com/Row_Haastrup/status/1969640300927992214?t=Qsel4yBNlOdUSgYzUOOJIg&s=19[/quote]He exaggerates some of the things he stated.

For instance, you do not pay tuition fee in UK Primary and Secondary schools but you pay for their meals and field trips. The combination of these is more expensive than the tuition fee of some of the best private schools in Nigeria. If you feel it is not compulsory for the your kids to go to the field trips, so you are contemplating not paying, you will be reported to the government which might take custody of the kids.

Besides, their school uniforms are so expensive that even the whites are buying school uniforms from a second-hand shop.

I will be interested to know why the UK Government would be paying a child 600 pounds per child. For parents who are not earning enough, the UK Govt pays the parent child benefit, which is 22 pounds per week (which is quite low in an environment like the UK). The only reason I can figure out is if the person is on full benefits, which is a position you should not wish for. It means you don't have jobs or your kids are disable (which range between 29.20 pounds to 187.45 pounds per week, depending on the degree of disabilities) , which means they are being paid disability allowance. They are not good position anyone reasonable should wish for.

Out of curiousity, why was he quoting in dollars when he resides in the UK?

horlando30:
It is a misconception that Nigeria is rich. We are very poor nation, I would say wretched. The gulf country you compared us with have very tiny population and make more dollars than us. Nigeria with a population of 200 million makes less than $40B every year while Saudi with 30 million people makes about $400B annually.

Nigeria simply has too much mouth to feed with little money. For us to be nearly as comfortable as gulf nations, we need to make atleast $500B anually for our population size

ZombieDredd:
Do you know about Libya during ghadaffi days?

lawani:
I mean it is what they want to show you that you will see. However with wages it is different. You can make money from company tax but it is easier with personal income tax. All countries make more money from wage tax than any other tax. Wage tax is where the money is not company income tax