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Re: This topic has been removed by Rexymania(m): 10:02pm On Sep 23, 2025
Ourtruth247:
That's because they can live for ever, not in the sense of their physical bodies living for ever but their minds and memories. That's why they marry into the same blood line and within the same corridors of power.

However they have their minions, the celebrities (who they own by way of owning the music and entertainment industry), all repeat the "forever young" "live forever" mantra, forcing you into thinking living forever implies having your physical body live for hundreds of years, whereas it's a way of putting it in your face that they actually can retain their memories post reincarnation over generations.
Hmmmm deep. It makes sense
Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng: 10:06pm On Sep 23, 2025
Interesting smiley
Ourtruth247:
The compass and the square

Many years ago while exploring the subject of freemasons, I noticed how weird their symbol was. The symbol was a compass and a square(the tools in our mathsets back in secondary school) with a G in the middle, signifying the great Architect. Why pick such a symbol and why did a secret society like the freemasons obsess over Architecture to the point of making architectural tools their symbol

Another thing that confused me was the name Freemasons. I wondered what it meant; did it mean that those members of this secret society were masons that became free? Did it signify a chant to free the masons? Only recently did it all click

Bear in mind the free masons who I particularly refer to are the 33rd degree order; these are the guys with tentacles in various political power structures and global enterprises

I also noticed the masonic hand sign. When you look at drawings (because there aren't any photographs) of the founding fathers, you see them do those hand signs signifying that they were free masons as well

So what exactly are the freemasons and why is there name and symbol important?

The term masonry is basically stone work; structures, artifacts, architecture built with stone; could be limestone, marble, granite, concrete, brick etc. When you put the word free in front of it, then it means free stonework; free buildings; free architecture.

All of the buildings left behind by the pre-reset civilization were all stone buildings. So when you put it all together, free masons are basically founders of free architecture, hence why the founding fathers; who found these architecture were freemasons. This is also why their symbol has architectural instruments in them.
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 7:07am On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247:
That's because they can live for ever, not in the sense of their physical bodies living for ever but their minds and memories. That's why they marry into the same blood line and within the same corridors of power.

However they have their minions, the celebrities (who they own by way of owning the music and entertainment industry), all repeat the "forever young" "live forever" mantra, forcing you into thinking living forever implies having your physical body live for hundreds of years, whereas it's a way of putting it in your face that they actually can retain their memories post reincarnation over generations.
Someone on TikTok shared the uncanny resemblance between the Leo Popes from way back. He's saying the same thing Ourtruth247 is saying.

The first is Leo 8.
Second Leo 13 and
Leo 14 of today. Time difference stretching really long.

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Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 1:22pm On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247:
That's because they can live for ever, not in the sense of their physical bodies living for ever but their minds and memories. That's why they marry into the same blood line and within the same corridors of power.

However they have their minions, the celebrities (who they own by way of owning the music and entertainment industry), all repeat the "forever young" "live forever" mantra, forcing you into thinking living forever implies having your physical body live for hundreds of years, whereas it's a way of putting it in your face that they actually can retain their memories post reincarnation over generations.
And my brother. Even if a soul can leave forever. As in soul energy reserving it's attributes and memories, don't you think it'll still need to be sustained?

Sustenance can't be left out of your expose...
Come and continue please.
Re: This topic has been removed by dapada91: 1:24pm On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247:
That's because they can live for ever, not in the sense of their physical bodies living for ever but their minds and memories. That's why they marry into the same blood line and within the same corridors of power.

However they have their minions, the celebrities (who they own by way of owning the music and entertainment industry), all repeat the "forever young" "live forever" mantra, forcing you into thinking living forever implies having your physical body live for hundreds of years, whereas it's a way of putting it in your face that they actually can retain their memories post reincarnation over generations.
Do you know anything about the 3i atlas that's dazzling scientists now?
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Re: This topic has been removed by gotnel: 2:21pm On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247:
I still have more to post. Like this comment if you are still following so I at least know that I have an audience.
Plenty audience.
Well done
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Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng: 3:25pm On Sep 24, 2025
Interesting
Ourtruth247:
The world is a burial place of buildings

What I'm about to share is mind-blowing. Most of the buildings claimed to have been built in the 1800s and a lot of similar architecture around the world are not the entire structure. What we see are the top floors of the building; a lot of it is buried beneath the earth.

Take for instance the building I posted below. This is the marble church. Does that look like a complete building to you? Doesn't it look like the upmost part of the building? Why is the dome at the top larger in comparison to the building itself? Doesn't it seem a bit disproportionate? However a dome that large would make sense if it was at the top center of a huge building.

That's why you see a lot of these types of buildings with windows and doors buried underground. Why would you need a window underground?

If you aren't convinced I'll take my argument a step further. We are told that the pyramids of Egypt were built by Egyptian Pharaohs as burial places; they convinced us to obsessed over what we see and have debates about why exactly they were built, when in truth, the pyramids are just the roofs of huge structures that are buried beneath the Giza plateau.

This is substantiated by recent research by Italian researchers who claimed to have used synthetic aperture radar tomography to find eight cylindrical pillars, over 600 meters deep, with spiral pathways, at the base of which were large, cube-like chambers. The team suggested these structures are part of a massive, hidden underground complex extending several kilometers beneath the Giza plateau, potentially connecting to all three major pyramids. 

The sphinx is also not a separate structure. It is a structure mounted on the top of a huge building has been buried beneath the Giza plateau.

The Sahara desert is one of the largest burial grounds in the world. I believe a lot of African civilizations and architecture are buried beneath the Sahara
Think about the way the roofs of buildings are built. Better still look outside your window and observe the roofs of buildings; how they are shaped. Don't they resemble pyramids?

The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.
Re: This topic has been removed by Rexymania(m): 4:23pm On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247:
Where are the toilets?

The London cathedral, Notradame cathedral, Windsor castle, Saint Stevens cathedral in Vienna, the cologne cathedral, the tower of London, the Edinburgh castle. What do all these marvelous works of architecture have in common? They had no toilets

The Palace of Versailles in France claimed to have been built in 1789 has 2300 rooms, but yet no toilet
We are told that the people that built these magnificent works of architecture with precise architectural patterns and designs that almost looked 3D printed were so stupid that they couldn't create a mere drainage system for waste management. What a contradiction.

It just shows the amount of hatred and vendetta those who control our world today had for these people. In every historical document they describe them in the most unflattering of ways; we are told that they sometimes shat on the corridors, or in pots and threw their shit and piss off the windows and into the street.

The picture below is the palace of Versailles. Do you really think the people who built that and designed the interior with so much beauty, splendor, perfection and attention to detail would stain the corridors with their urine and feaces?

Based on the evidence we know those who built those building could also build toilets if they wanted to. For instance the Palace of Versailles had fountains which proved that the builders clearly knew how to set up underground pipe systems.

So why exactly did the pre-reset civilization not need toilets.

Think about this. Why do we humans need to eat other life? If you were a spiritually evolved being, it would seem contradictory to kill and eat life around you in order to survive?

Bases on my research, there is a claim that the pre-reset civilization were Brethetarians. These are people who subsist on air and universal energy (prana), without food or water. This is just a hypothesis as I have no idea if and how they expensed waste from their bodies.
Omo I'm hearing this for this first time. How then did we come to be?
Re: This topic has been removed by Hhh4444: 4:51pm On Sep 24, 2025
Ourtruth247,do you think humans can be cloned?
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 8:28pm On Sep 24, 2025
Oga, Everything you are saying is mere hypothesis and curious questioning, as much as it gives us ground to question our world as it is set, it is not a statement of facts and no evidence presented to proof your hypothesis. People should be careful what they choose to believe, and should therefore not take things for its intellectual novelty. At the end of the day, we can only end up with few truths, half truths and lies. Not full truth because the odds are against us
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Your saying that rapture may have occurred and
Revelation is a prophesy of the past is not entirely true. Sure some things revealed in revelation may have occurred because they were reveal to occur at a point in history. So prophesy is history in advance, while history is prophesy being fulfilled. But then, not all revelatory themes have played out...

To me, the only surest thing to the truth about the beyond is revelation of Christ. Anything outside that is playing into the games of the controllers of this world which is devil and his minions and bloodlines.
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The safest bet is to hide in the knowledge and spirit of Christ because this world is already judged, together with its controller and his minions. This world is under the control of evil. And Jesus already says we are not of the world, because everything here is lies, illusions, and hard to know the truth from the prism of human knowledge , research and philosophy. The gatekeepers won't reveal certain things no matter how we try.
So it's better to stay put with the wisdom of Christ and strive to evolve and evolve until we become the true sons and saints of God who can't be conquered or limited by the power and lies of this world.
The Bible already says the whole world lies under the power of darkness and the evil one. Since we know this truth, Jesus is only the way and truth we need.
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 8:38pm On Sep 24, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
Oga, Everything you are saying is mere hypothesis and curious questioning, as much as it gives us ground to question our world as it is set, it is not a statement of facts and no evidence presented to proof your hypothesis. People should be careful what they choose to believe, and should therefore not take things for its intellectual novelty. At the end of the day, we can only end up with few truths, half truths and lies. Not full truth because the odds are against us
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Your saying that rapture may have occurred and
Revelation is a prophesy of the past is not entirely true. Sure some things revealed in revelation may have occurred because they were reveal to occur at a point in history. So prophesy is history in advance, while history is prophesy being fulfilled. But then, not all revelatory themes have played out...

To me, the only surest thing to the truth about the beyond is revelation of Christ. Anything outside that is playing into the games of the controllers of this world which is devil and his minions and bloodlines.
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The safest bet is to hide in the knowledge and spirit of Christ because this world is already judged, together with its controller and his minions. This world is under the control of evil. And Jesus already says we are not of the world, because everything here is lies, illusions, and hard to know the truth from the prism of human knowledge , research and philosophy. The gatekeepers won't reveal certain things no matter how we try. So it's better to stay put with the wisdom of Christ and strive to evolve and evolve until we become the true sons and saints of God who can't be conquered by the lies of this world
Since you know that, you should also be aware that your so-called surest bet in Jesus is the same.

It's never unquestionable like the air we breathe.
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 8:50pm On Sep 24, 2025
correctguy101:
Since you know that, you should also be aware that your so-called surest bet in Jesus is the same.

It's never unquestionable like the air we breathe.
The revelation of Christ is not for everybody. Pray you are among the chosen, pray that your name is written down in that book that will opened. Pray that you are sealed by the spirit of God.
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Have you ever asked yourself why Christ is so unpopular among everything including humans that seems to be leading and governing this realm?

Talk of media, education, politics, history, commerce, geopolitics, industry, the occult, fashion, entertainment and music.... All of these realm of human endeavor are being gatekept by the controller of this world and they have a very strong hold over the people of the world.
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Talk about Jesus in those circle. It will never fly. Even among those you people said brought Christianity, then you will know they never brought Christianity, they only used Christianity to advance their agenda. So today in Europe, America, Isreal, tell me, where is Christ? Even among the jews.
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They've relegated him just to follow the agenda of their father which is the devil. They all know Christ is the truth but scripture already says light came to the world but people prefer darkness more than light.
See, don't be deceived by your education, research or one transcendent knowledge, everything has been captured, the only thing that can not be captured or falsified is the true spirit of Christ, and that's why the devil is also working over time to corrupt true gospel and inspire many so called pastors to perpetuate errors on pupit while making most Christians powerless and worldly in thinking.

But then everyone will be judged and the day has been set.
Strive for your soul, and you can only save your soul true Christ. No knowledge in this world can help you when it comes about the question of eternity.
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 8:56pm On Sep 24, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
The revelation of Christ is not for everybody. Pray you are among the chosen, pray that your name is written down in that book that will opened.
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Have you ever asked yourself why Christ is so unpopular among everything including humans that seems to be leading and governing this realm?
Talk of in the media, politics, history, commerce, geopolitics, industry, occult, fashion, entertainment and music.... All of these realm of human endeavor are being gatekept by the controller of this world and they have a very strong hold over the people of the world.
Talk about Jesus in those circle. It will never fly. Even among those you people said brought Christianity, then you will know they never brought Christianity, they only used Christianity to advance their agenda. So today in Europe, America, Isreal, tell me, where is Christ? They've relegated him just to follow the agenda of their father which is the devil. They all know Christ is the truth but scripture already says light came to the world but people prefer darkness more than light.
See, don't be deceived, not by your education or even research, everything has been captured, the only thing that can not be captured or falsified is the true spirit of Christ, and that's why the devil is also working over time to corrupt true gospel and inspire many so called pastors to perpetuate errors on pupit. But then everyone will be judged and the day has been set.
Strive for your soul, and you can only save your soul true Christ. No knowledge in this world can help you when it comes about the question of eternity.
SMH
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 9:12pm On Sep 24, 2025
correctguy101:
SMH
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You don't have to be condescending.
I've been a long time reader of the OP, I've read virtually all if not all of his former documentation of his personal findings about how this world is structured to hide a lot of things from us. Many of his revelation is mind blowing and call for sober reflection especially for people who are still carried away about life. But then, the biggest take away for me from his post, is the fact that it consolidates my belief in the word of Christ that this world is surely not our abode, and we are not of the system of this world...... Because I see no other way by which any man can be saved from the damnation already wroght and imminent on this world of lies and evil
Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 9:15pm On Sep 24, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
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You don't have to be condescending.
I've been a long time reader of the OP, I've read virtually all if not all of his former documentation of his personal findings about how this world is structured to hide a lot of things from us. Many of his revelation is mind blowing and call for sober reflection especially for people who are still carried away about life. But then, the biggest take away for me from his post, is the fact that it consolidates my belief in the word of Christ that this world is surely not our abode, and we are not of the system of this world...... Because I see no other way by which any man can be saved from the damnation already wroght and imminent on this world of lies and evil
Okay
Re: This topic has been removed by SKhanmi: 9:51pm On Sep 24, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
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You don't have to be condescending.
I've been a long time reader of the OP, I've read virtually all if not all of his former documentation of his personal findings about how this world is structured to hide a lot of things from us. Many of his revelation is mind blowing and call for sober reflection especially for people who are still carried away about life. But then, the biggest take away for me from his post, is the fact that it consolidates my belief in the word of Christ that this world is surely not our abode, and we are not of the system of this world...... Because I see no other way by which any man can be saved from the damnation already wroght and imminent on this world of lies and evil
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Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 10:03pm On Sep 24, 2025
SKhanmi:
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SKhanmi.
If I'm caged and you are free.
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Why not try bring me to your freedom by the same mechanism you have found?
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I have found truth which has set me free, if you are free while I'm caged, why not tell me the truth you have found.
Jesus said that eternal life is about knowing Jehovah, the only true God, and knowing Jesus Christ whom he has sent.
If you talk about eternal life or truth without Christ and Jehovah, you are only playing into the lies and illusory philosophical game of Lucifer. There's no way you can beat him except you hide yourself under the government of Christ.
Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life. The Life here is eternal life. And this life can only be got through knowing the only true God and his son. Other recourse is mere intellectual gymnastics and ego tripping that has no true root. Shallom
Re: This topic has been removed by SKhanmi: 10:23pm On Sep 24, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
SKhanmi.
If I'm caged and you are free.
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Why not try bring me to your freedom by the same mechanism you have found?
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I have found truth which has set me free, if you are free while I'm caged, why not tell me the truth you have found.
Jesus said that eternal life is about knowing Jehovah, the only true God, and knowing Jesus Christ whom he has sent.
If you talk about eternal life or truth without Christ and Jehovah, you are only playing into the lies and illusory philosophical game of Lucifer. There's no way you can beat him except you hide yourself under the government of Christ.
Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life. The Life here is eternal life. And this life can only be got through knowing the only true God and his son. Other recourse is mere intellectual gymnastics and ego tripping that has no true root. Shallom
Look at the picture well again. The bird is not caged.

Christ and Jehovah are 2 entirely different entities. The latter is one of the bad ones

P:S No one is coming back for you. Seek to understand why or die, spend some time in your self created heavens/hell/emptiness. Get wiped and get sent back here as usual to start over again. Maybe Then you will understand the powers and principalities you’re up against and see religion as one of the chains. Shalom.

https://ia904501.us.archive.org/21/items/stellar-man/Stellar%20Man.pdf
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 10:43pm On Sep 24, 2025
SKhanmi:
Look at the picture well again. The bird is not caged.

Christ and Jehovah are 2 entirely different entities. The latter is one of the bad ones

P:S No one is coming back for you. Seek to understand why or die, spend some time in your self created heavens/hell/emptiness. Get wiped and get sent back here as usual to start over again. Maybe Then you will understand the powers and principalities you’re up against and see religion as one of the chains. Shalom.

https://ia904501.us.archive.org/21/items/stellar-man/Stellar%20Man.pdf
The link you sent is a broken link.
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In Christ we are more than conqueror, that's what Christ said before he ascended to heaven... And Every power and principalities has a period of their reign and their expiry date. That's what Revelation says.
Even while still here, the Bible says we are seated with Christ far above Principalities and Powers... If we are hid in Christ. Principality has nothing on us.
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This world also has an expiry date. So also will reincarnation not continue forever, but before the completion of all things and all powers, endeavor you know Christ and you are sealed by him otherwise, na sorry be your case o....

And if you know Christ you will surely know Jehovah. But if you claim to know Christ but see Jehovah as a bad guy, then you have been misled because Christ always emphasized that he came from Jehovah, sent by Jehovah, came to do the will of Jehovah, the work of Jehovah, and Christ always said everything he said or did was what he heard or see Jehovah do. And finally before he left this world, Christ said, believe in Jehovah and also believe in me.
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So you may have to reconsider your misconception about God while hailing Christ because having those two stance at once is proper contradiction and confusion.
Meanwhile, it is wise for the bird to struggle through the narrow less trodden way instead of taking the Broadway which leads to deception and destruction.
Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng: 9:43am On Sep 25, 2025
Jesus is not the only way

One man sent to reach out to 7 vast continents in one life?

Even an igbo man cannot be governor in a Yoruba Land

Other messengers from God were sent.
By their fruits you shall know the tree.
Also note that man can corrupt, same way Jesus and other messengers teachings has been corrupted by man.
Example Jesus did not come to die for anyone sin. He was murdered, Same way charlie Kirk, Martin Luther king Jr, Mahatma Gandhi were murdered because their message was waking people up


Jesus is not the way, truth and life.

It's the application of Jesus message in one's life that is the path for one to everlasting Life
PeterObi4Presid:
Oga, Everything you are saying is mere hypothesis and curious questioning, as much as it gives us ground to question our world as it is set, it is not a statement of facts and no evidence presented to proof your hypothesis. People should be careful what they choose to believe, and should therefore not take things for its intellectual novelty. At the end of the day, we can only end up with few truths, half truths and lies. Not full truth because the odds are against us
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Your saying that rapture may have occurred and
Revelation is a prophesy of the past is not entirely true. Sure some things revealed in revelation may have occurred because they were reveal to occur at a point in history. So prophesy is history in advance, while history is prophesy being fulfilled. But then, not all revelatory themes have played out...

To me, the only surest thing to the truth about the beyond is revelation of Christ. Anything outside that is playing into the games of the controllers of this world which is devil and his minions and bloodlines.
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The safest bet is to hide in the knowledge and spirit of Christ because this world is already judged, together with its controller and his minions. This world is under the control of evil. And Jesus already says we are not of the world, because everything here is lies, illusions, and hard to know the truth from the prism of human knowledge , research and philosophy. The gatekeepers won't reveal certain things no matter how we try.
So it's better to stay put with the wisdom of Christ and strive to evolve and evolve until we become the true sons and saints of God who can't be conquered or limited by the power and lies of this world.
The Bible already says the whole world lies under the power of darkness and the evil one. Since we know this truth, Jesus is only the way and truth we need.
Re: This topic has been removed by fredwill1357(m): 9:59am On Sep 25, 2025
Ourtruth247:
Where are the toilets?
So why exactly did the pre-reset civilization not need toilets.

Think about this. Why do we humans need to eat other life? If you were a spiritually evolved being, it would seem contradictory to kill and eat life around you in order to survive?

Bases on my research, there is a claim that the pre-reset civilization were Brethetarians. These are people who subsist on air and universal energy (prana), without food or water. This is just a hypothesis as I have no idea if and how they expensed waste from their bodies.
You are actually right about this, humans are been reconfigured.
The biggest culprits is the foods we are been fed, meat, fish, eggs, milk, animals and animal products damage your DNA.
Carbs and sugar, even natural sugars in high amounts from fruits or food is bad for you.

A vegan keto diet is our best bet, until we can transition to surviving with food and water.
Humans also had no gender, we are meant to reproduce for those who want to, through asexual reproduction.

Some of these knowledge are stored in our first body brain long term memory, the gut. ENS.
Re: This topic has been removed by Reverseng: 11:38am On Sep 25, 2025
Most of these seem incorrect

There is gender

Even morning has night
Upward has downward
fredwill1357:
You are actually right about this, humans are been reconfigured.
The biggest culprits is the foods we are been fed, meat, fish, eggs, milk, animals and animal products damage your DNA.
Carbs and sugar, even natural sugars in high amounts from fruits or food is bad for you.

A vegan keto diet is our best bet, until we can transition to surviving with food and water.
Humans also had no gender, we are meant to reproduce for those who want to, through asexual reproduction.

Some of these knowledge are stored in our first body brain long term memory, the gut. ENS.
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid: 11:50am On Sep 25, 2025
Reverseng:
Jesus is not the only way

One man sent to reach out to 7 vast continents in one life?

Even an igbo man cannot be governor in a Yoruba Land

Other messengers from God were sent.
By their fruits you shall know the tree.
Also note that man can corrupt, same way Jesus and other messengers teachings has been corrupted by man.
Example Jesus did not come to die for anyone sin. He was murdered, Same way charlie Kirk, Martin Luther king Jr, Mahatma Gandhi were murdered because their message was waking people up


Jesus is not the way, truth and life.

It's the application of Jesus message in one's life that is the path for one to everlasting Life
If you willfully don't believe in the scripture, what it says and what Christ himself says, then you are already deceived by the wisdom and knowledge of this world. And the Bible call it darkness. May God open your eyes and bring you out from the kingdom of this world to light
Re: This topic has been removed by demanuel(m): 12:08pm On Sep 25, 2025
I understand where you're coming from,but I have a few things:

-The concept of Heaven & Hell or what Christians understand as "Rapture" is a made up idea.
If it was real, it would be the last thing the whites will bring to Africa.
In fact, what Christians know as "Salvation" would only be known to the whites and those who put together the Bible.

-The Bible with 66 books is not complete.
There's a reason why some other books were left out.
Technically it's to control the people.
Also, majority of the characters especially in the old testament are blacks, just as we are, and Jesus is originally black skinned.
But those who documented the Bible and brought the gospel to Africa manipulated everything to establish their agenda.

-Jesus is a "Higher Consciousness" that if you genuinely follow, you'll elevate to higher realms and dimensions of consciousness (which is not "heaven" )after you pass away.

Again, "heaven and hell" as Christians know it to be, is a made up concept.
If it was real, Salvation will be the last thing the whites will bring to you.
It will be an exclusive preserve for themselves.

*I am a Christian who believe in Christ Jesus, but I don't subscribe to the concept of heaven and hell as documented.
PeterObi4Presid:
Oga, Everything you are saying is mere hypothesis and curious questioning, as much as it gives us ground to question our world as it is set, it is not a statement of facts and no evidence presented to proof your hypothesis. People should be careful what they choose to believe, and should therefore not take things for its intellectual novelty. At the end of the day, we can only end up with few truths, half truths and lies. Not full truth because the odds are against us
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Your saying that rapture may have occurred and
Revelation is a prophesy of the past is not entirely true. Sure some things revealed in revelation may have occurred because they were reveal to occur at a point in history. So prophesy is history in advance, while history is prophesy being fulfilled. But then, not all revelatory themes have played out...

To me, the only surest thing to the truth about the beyond is revelation of Christ. Anything outside that is playing into the games of the controllers of this world which is devil and his minions and bloodlines.
..
The safest bet is to hide in the knowledge and spirit of Christ because this world is already judged, together with its controller and his minions. This world is under the control of evil. And Jesus already says we are not of the world, because everything here is lies, illusions, and hard to know the truth from the prism of human knowledge , research and philosophy. The gatekeepers won't reveal certain things no matter how we try.
So it's better to stay put with the wisdom of Christ and strive to evolve and evolve until we become the true sons and saints of God who can't be conquered or limited by the power and lies of this world.
The Bible already says the whole world lies under the power of darkness and the evil one. Since we know this truth, Jesus is only the way and truth we need.
Re: This topic has been removed by PeterObi4Presid:
demanuel:
I understand where you're coming from,but I have a few things:

-The concept of Heaven & Hell or what Christians understand as "Rapture" is a made up idea.
If it was real, it would be the last thing the whites will bring to Africa.
In fact, what Christians know as "Salvation" would only be known to the whites and those who put together the Bible.

-The Bible with 66 books is not complete.
There's a reason why some other books were left out.
Technically it's to control the people.
Also, majority of the characters especially in the old testament are blacks, just as we are, and Jesus is originally black skinned.
But those who documented the Bible and brought the gospel to Africa manipulated everything to establish their agenda.

-Jesus is a "Higher Consciousness" that if you genuinely follow, you'll elevate to higher realms and dimensions of consciousness (which is not "heaven" )after you pass away.

Again, "heaven and hell" as Christians know it to be, is a made up concept.
If it was real, Salvation will be the last thing the whites will bring to you.
It will be an exclusive preserve for themselves.

*I am a Christian who believe in Christ Jesus, but I don't subscribe to the concept of heaven and hell as documented.
Since you are a Christian, it is good that our conversation can be predicated on the Bible. If so, then your rejecting the idea of Heaven and Hell as written in the Bible means you don't genuinely and completely believe in the word of Christ. Perhaps you don't have good understanding of the scripture, or you never had a spiritual encounter and prophetic revelations, or you are just plainly befuddled by unbelief.... So consider the foundation of your problems, search your heart if you truly believe the word of Christ, otherwise u need to seek help.
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Now you said Bible is not complete, this is a statement generally heard amongst the agnostics or the atheist, a Christian uttering such is joking with his faith and salvation, in fact that Christian may not even be saved in the first place. So go and examine your claim to salvation if it's truly genuine.

And if it's genuine, then you need to do a lot of research about the historicity of the Bible, and how it was preserved over centuries, and how it was canonized. Try to understand the difference between the canonized books, apocryphals and the modalities for the segmentation. A Christian may have doubts, but if you understand that Jesus, Peter, Paul, and the Apostles all read the old Testament diligently and quoted verbatim from it diligently, then your trust in the old testament, at least the ones they quoted from should stir up.
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Now you spoke about white bringing Christianity to us and all those racial sentiment that might make you get cynical about the Bible, that's okay, but there's some gap in your understanding of how the Bible and Christianity truly came to us:

1. The whites didn't bring or pioneer Christianity. The whites just happen into the history of how Christianity was spread, just as everyone has a stake in spreading it till Jesus will come.
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2. Christianity was brought and first spread by Christ, then by the Apostles of Christ who were jews, not whites, then they took it to the Greeks, Romans, Asians, even to the Jews, etc after Christ died. if you read your Bible well. Remember even majority of the Jews dint accept Christianity even till now, and Christianity was a very minority group or sect whose pioneers had to die for the truth. I'm still talking of the Apostles and Christ here. So does this look like whites dying to spread Christianity?

After their mathyr by the whites, you see, it was even whites that first started killing the adherents of Christianity. It was Romans, who are white that killed Christ. So understand the history....
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Now when Christianity refused to die till the 4th century, note that at this point, the book of the believers was old Testament as kept by the legacy of the jews, and the epistles of the Apostles that was written and sent to the churches. So theres no interference by white as of now.

The so called real interference began during the period of Constantine in 4th century. And you should understand Constantine was not a Christian, he was pagan just as his society was pagan because history tells us the names of the gods, temples and deity the society subscribed to in Rome.

But in the midst of this paganistic and polytheistic milieu, Christianity continued to grow though during the reign of emperor Nero before Constantine, Christians were still being cracked down until Constantine try to use Christianity as a political chip to consolidate his reign, make history for himself, and made it a religion the state took interest in. Notice that government was monarchical this period. And Constantine was the sole controller, this period was the period Catholicism was Instituted and turned to an institution with tentacles with the state. It was independent before this period.
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Understand that state interference into Christianity was political not spiritual. If you understand this point, you will also understand how political institutions can lash unto any mechanism to further their interest. See the way Westerners use Islam to create political problems in the world today.
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This interference lead to a whole lot of corruption in Catholicism and in the truth, but it never affected the old Testament books because they already existed. The books were only compiled this time, not edited. Epistles were also gathered together, not edited. And by then the church knew which book was recent, which book was controversial and which book held Apostolic authority through history. Note that compilation of these books was done for history, teaching not for the general access by the populace because the church hoards it.
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Catholicism became a political institution using religious authority to consolidate power, since their power also has political backing ... This led to what is called the dark ages.... Where the light of the Gospel was killed and Christianity/Catholicism was used by the state to engender any sentiment or political agenda. This is what led to the period known as dark ages because many biblical truth was hidden from people, and the state+Catholics hoard and used religion to exercise veto power... The spirituality of the scripture has been stripped and Gospel turned to the Phariseestic model of the period of Christ.
This continued Until the period of Reformation when the truth came back to light and genuine Christians arose to start fighting authority of the then political church and the Reformers starts translating the scripture from Latin/Greek to English, German for general access. Thank the Reformers like Calvin, Martin Luther, etc, this was the beginning of light that began to spread gospel in its true form and mandate and Europe began to war against monarchical rule which had used Catholicism to control people, to kill people for blasphemy, to champion inquisition and crusaders. This was the work of the Whites that that merged religion and the state (monarchy) to perpetuate their interest......
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When Europe began to war against monarchical rule during the period of Renaissance/Reformation period, of course missionary work started by private individuals who have seen the light and caught the call of the Gospel. Of course Catholicism was already a giant, however Reformers who cut away from Catholicism began spreading the Gospel to Europe, America, Africa.. Catholics also join, and at this point was when Europe began slave trade.

It is very important to understand that Europe that began slave trade were merchants and political Europe. Not the reformers or missionaries, though some unscrupulous missionaries were complicit and aligned with the traders. So once again, the new proliferation of the religion was seen as a tool that could be used in their colonization agenda. Remember it's the reformers that fought racism and ended slave trade in America.

The coincidence of missionary work and slave trade into Africa can make you think the religion came because of need for slaves, but that's not the truth, the religion was only used by the slave merchants against the grain of the Gospel. (Coincidence) Just as Constantine used it to consolidate power, and the dark ages used it for control against the intent of Christ or the Apostles that founded it without the input of the whites
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Up till today, the fusion of religion and state is always a tool not for salvation but for exploitation. So, any form where you see religion, pastors, fusing with the state it's always an attempt to use religion to further political and personal interest... That is what man is capable of, corrupting the intent of scripture. That's the problem of religion all over the world. The problem is man using it for exploitation, not the letter of the scripture being the problem....
This is why Christian spirituality is different from Christian religion
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