₦airaland Forum

Eniitankorede:
Nupeng and Pengasan are toxic pro-importation unions who destroyed our government refineries. They use their members to destroy private refinery so that government can continue importing with subsidy. Thats why Dangote is mad against them.

State practically how pengassan and nupeng destroyed the refinery. Just give me two ways ooooo. And also tell me the member of which union are responsible for all the crude oil production Nigeria have been surviving on

Zionmdde:
Small education for you
Union is strictly there to protect the interest of its members so you can't just wake up tomorrow and sack them for nothing without realizing that you are putting them and all their dependents into hardship

What is happening with all these Lebanese and Chinese companies is pure slavery and that's dangote's model. Unionism is one of the major pillars of the UN ILO lolz

You guys can keep supporting injustice, it will reach everybody

those union re just after Thier monthly due nothing again.

zelnababa:
those union re just after Thier monthly due nothing again.

Sorry baba
Do you have proofs?

Do you also know that they engaged most of the employers of their members including the biggest IOCs you know to get pay rise to cushion the effect of tinubu economics?

Sometimes I don't knownhow you guys come out boldly to say what you don't know

owobokiri:
I don't see the gains of the Dangote refinery anymore. For me, progress and developments should be reflecting on the quality of lives of the people, and not sokely based on computer generated numbers.

I can't see any significant dip in joblessness in the country.
I am not seeing any significant decrease in the pump prices of Petroleum products.
Neither am I seeing any significant dip in terms of the value of the naira following the latent ban on the importation of Petroleum products that was blamed for the scarcity of the dollar.

If there are no significant national improvements in these areas, why are we over celebrating the refinery as a success? Because our local ruthless capitalist is laughing to the bank? Dangote has always gotten away with forcing Nigerians to buy his stuffs at the highest prices while using his tentacles in government to discourage imports in sundry areas..

We were told that the pump prices of Petroleum products will seriously go down after this refinery comes full stream. The refinery is functioning optimally now and all we get are stories of the prices moving up and down within the margins of 10 to 30 naira differences, while the actual price for petrol stiffens around 1000 a litre...
Enough!
That is a rip off..

Dangote refinery only benefits Dangote and his fellow shylocks!

There are over 200 million of us Nigerians being milked dry by the federal government just to fatten this garrulous capitalist called Dangote..

You're free to say all these just as if Dangote is the government!

For your information, Dangote is just a private entrepreneur doing his business! He saw a gap in the petroleum value chain and decided to invest and now you are encouraging a union coming to play politics just because he employed people to work for him?

Fine, people are free to join union but their intentions to either join or not must be subject to the policies of the organization they work for. He hasn't asked anyone not to join union if they so wish but that same union must be willing to employ them if the company feels threatened by their activities within the refinery.

All we should clamour is for the union to pull resources together, establish a refinery and rival Dangote and then practice their unionism freely.

Come to think of it, imagine there's no Dangote refinery today! You have obviously forgotten how you queued up at filling stations and prices jacked up arbitrarily wit the narratives of landing costs, increase in dollar rate, war in Gaza, Israel, Russia bla bla bla. They might even say that NEPA took light at the ports and the ships offloading fuel were unable to offload!

Abeg, face the government and leave this man alone. Unionism is a right but not a license to disrupt private businesses.

If they're so sincere about workers working conditions as they claim, why only refinery? Why not some other sectors too? Let them do it across all sectors, then we will no that they really meant well for the citizens. By then, all of us will even join them.

ogododo:
https://saharareporters.com/2025/09/26/dangote-refinery-says-few-workers-affected-sackings-over-3000-nigerians-still-employed

This is a private business, dangote will fire everyone, hire foreigners and put the salary on the cost of production and we will buy expensive fuel, keep forming union there when your government has failed in maintaining its own Refineries

yemre:
You're free to say all these just as if Dangote is the government!

For your information, Dangote is just a private entrepreneur doing his business! He saw a gap in the petroleum value chain and decided to invest and now you are encouraging a union coming to play politics just because he employed people to work for him?

Fine, people are free to join union but their intentions to either join or not must be subject to the policies of the organization they work for. He hasn't asked anyone not to join union if they so wish but that same union must be willing to employ them if the company feels threatened by their activities within the refinery.

All we should clamour is for the union to pull resources together, establish a refinery and rival Dangote and then practice their unionism freely.

Come to think of it, imagine there's no Dangote refinery today! You have obviously forgotten how you queued up at filling stations and prices jacked up arbitrarily wit the narratives of landing costs, increase in dollar rate, war in Gaza, Israel, Russia bla bla bla. They might even say that NEPA took light at the ports and the ships offloading fuel were unable to offload!

Abeg, face the government and leave this man alone. Unionism is a right but not a license to disrupt private businesses.

If they're so sincere about workers working conditions as they claim, why only refinery? Why not some other sectors too? Let them do it across all sectors, then we will no that they really meant well for the citizens. By then, all of us will even join them.

Can you show the reading public how the advent of Dangotes refinery has improved prices...?
That's is taking into cognizance the pump price of say petrol before the advent of this regime, compared to the present price after the coming of the socalled Dangotes refinery.
I am waiting.
DON'T RUN!

Once you have a staff strength of over 100 you must register a union.
Unless you want to hire them as contract staff, even contract staff should have a union.

Banks caused a lot of problems by introduction of the horrendous idea of contract staff, now every major employer is cashing in.

Force people to build your dreams while paying them peanuts.

If only customers knew that by patronizing these unscrupulous entities they re funding worker exploitation.

Zionmdde:
Small education for you
Union is strictly there to protect the interest of its members so you can't just wake up tomorrow and sack them for nothing without realizing that you are putting them and all their dependents into hardship

What is happening with all these Lebanese and Chinese companies is pure slavery and that's dangote's model. Unionism is one of the major pillars of the UN ILO

You guys can keep supporting injustice, it will reach everybody

I am a federal govt worker for 11 years. There are many requests approved by the industrial court 12 years ago, union cannot fight for the implementation. There are times our allowances were cut off by our local mda for 2 years, union did not ask for explanation or even fight for it. The federal minimum wage has not been properly implemented for health workers and judiciary workers, we all got 40k flat payments instead of the usual percentage increments done by government which would have given us more than 40k salary increase. Our salary structure is overdue for review 12 years ago. So many Mou signed but the union declared strikes thrice, we were even denied 2 months salary because of strikes. But at the last hour each time, once they get presidential invitation and have dinner with the presidents, they will call off the strike after they are bribed and we will be asked to resume reversing the progress made
Unionism without union dues deduction is the way forward in Nigeria because now most of these unionists are rogues feeding fat on colleagues salaries and deductions but not willing to sacrifice or fight for their colleagues. Unionism should be outright banned in Nigeria because they have outlived their usefulness and now exist to feed on workers.

Zionmdde:
Small education for you
Union is strictly there to protect the interest of its members so you can't just wake up tomorrow and sack them for nothing without realizing that you are putting them and all their dependents into hardship

What is happening with all these Lebanese and Chinese companies is pure slavery and that's dangote's model. Unionism is one of the major pillars of the UN ILO

You guys can keep supporting injustice, it will reach everybody

Just open your own business and allow saboteurs to crash it in the name of unionism. Who Nupeng epp

Ruke1990:
I am a federal govt worker for 11 years. There are many requests approved by the industrial court 12 years ago, union cannot fight for the implementation. There are times our allowances were cut off by our local mda for 2 years, union did not ask for explanation or even fight for it. The federal minimum wage has not been properly implemented for health workers and judiciary workers, we all got 40k flat payments instead of the usual percentage increments done by government which would have given us more than 40k salary increase. Our salary structure is overdue for review 12 years ago. So many Mou signed but the union declared strikes thrice, we were even denied 2 months salary because of strikes. But at the last hour each time, once they get presidential invitation and have dinner with the presidents, they will call off the strike after they are bribed and we will be asked to resume reversing the progress made
Unionism without union dues deduction is the way forward in Nigeria because now most of these unionists are rogues feeding fat on colleagues salaries and deductions but not willing to sacrifice or fight for their colleagues. Unionism should be outright banned in Nigeria because they have outlived their usefulness and now exist to feed on workers.

You should know better to hold your own union accountable
Am yet to see pengassan members complain what you are complaining

Everybody wants to work in oil companies, if pengassan didn't ensure staff welfare is what it is today, will people desire to work there?

As a federal worker, you should know better than to be generalizing for all the unions, if your union has outlived its purpose opt out

maiunguwar:
Just open your own business and allow saboteurs to crash it in the name of unionism. Who Nupeng epp

Can you explain how pengassan have saboteured any business?
Please if you call refinery, be specific on how they did it

So dangote refinery with highly hazardous working environment shouldn't have any union speaking for the welfare of its workers

Even business people form unions.

Zionmdde:
Can you explain how pengassan have saboteured any business?
Please if you call refinery, be specific on how they did it

So dangote refinery with highly hazardous working environment shouldn't have any union speaking for the welfare of its workers

Even business people form unions.

If NUPENG and PENGASON are so fantastic,why have all the NNPC refineries stopped working?

Zionmdde:
You should know better to hold your own union accountable
Am yet to see pengassan members complain what you are complaining

Everybody wants to work in oil companies, if pengassan didn't ensure staff welfare is what it is today, will people desire to work there?

As a federal worker, you should know better than to be generalizing for all the unions, if your union has outlived its purpose opt out

if you are old enough, you should know frank kokori. That is the union leader that sacrificed his life for pengasson and nupeng to earn the huge pay they earned. He was jailed for many years and beaten by the millitary administrations until he lost his health and was only recently released from jail (less than 5 years ago) but didn't live long after. But his struggles is what made oil workers salaries to be increased. They actually earned peanuts before his time. Do you know that many oil company jobs were given out to contractors to supply contract staff and their salaries were massively splitted. After frank kokori era, None fought for them. No one fought against turning staff to casual workers, or reduction in salaries of so-called contract staff. MTN contracted all their work out so as to pay less. Till tomorrow, the telecom workers association didn't do anything about it. If you don't understand, pengasson and nupeng are not fighting for dangote staff interest, they are fighting for dues.

Dangote employs let's say 20,000 staff multiply by 10,000 monthly dues. They will make not less than N2, 400,000,000 yearly from dues collected from dangote staff salary. Did you not read that these unions already collect N50,000 dues per tanker loaded at dangote refinery. Obviously, they don't want to peg it to fixed monthly payments because one tanker can load many times in a month and that would be several billions of naira in dues. Is that the people you think are fighting for the workers interest? Do you know how many people have been laid off by oando, agip, MRS without union making any noise? Did otedola not tell you in his book of how he sacked people anyhow in his company, did pengasson or nupeng intervene?

American companies eg Chevron are generous to workers. it is not union that make Mobil or chevron treat workers fine. Travel all over the world, in any country you find an American company you find generous pay and perks of office. In contrast, wherever you find Asian companies, you find exploitation and slavery. It is the culture of their origin countries that reflect. Nigeria doesn't need senseless and exploitative labour. What they need is a functional government. Like in Italy or UK where you can report an employer to the court or to a govt agency and the employer can be fined for not treating you right while you get compensation. The ministry of labour needs to modernize itself and come out of stone age . 99% of Nigerian labour unions have joined hands with employers to.exploit employees through dues while not providing them the promised services

Ruke1990:
if you are old enough, you should know frank kokori. That is the union leader that sacrificed his life for pengasson and nupeng to earn the huge pay they earned. He was jailed for many years and beaten by the millitary administrations until he lost his health and was only recently released from jail (less than 5 years ago) but didn't live long after. But his struggles is what made oil workers salaries to be increased. They actually earned peanuts before his time. Do you know that many oil company jobs were given out to contractors to supply contract staff and their salaries were massively splitted. After frank kokori era, None fought for them. No one fought against turning staff to casual workers, or reduction in salaries of so-called contract staff. MTN contracted all their work out so as to pay less. Till tomorrow, the telecom workers association didn't do anything about it. If you don't understand, pengasson and nupeng are not fighting for dangote staff interest, they are fighting for dues.

Dangote employs let's say 20,000 staff multiply by 10,000 monthly dues. They will make not less than N2, 400,000,000 yearly from dues collected from dangote staff salary. Did you not read that these unions already collect N50,000 dues per tanker loaded at dangote refinery. Obviously, they don't want to peg it to fixed monthly payments because one tanker can load many times in a month and that would be several billions of naira in dues. Is that the people you think are fighting for the workers interest? Do you know how many people have been laid off by oando, agip, MRS without union making any noise? Did otedola not tell you in his book of how he sacked people anyhow in his company, did pengasson or nupeng intervene?

You know nothing about pengassan
The frank you mentioned contributed his quota
You talk of leaders in pengassan fighting for dues, you mean people whose salaries are close to tens of millions already? Na wa oooo
The oando, agip and MRS staffs, are they pengassan members?
IOCs have been sacking people but do you know the hundred of millions they pay those people off with? You think they will care if they don't have union bodies to come for them?

Tinubu is about to sell off your Nigeria's most valued national assets, guess who is trying to fight it, pengassan. I guess people like you don't even know the effect that pia ammendment will have on your children tomorrow

1st: are you a pengassan member?
If you are not then stick your guns to where you belong
Pengassan members know how that union is benefitting them and they will join again and again and again if they are asked to do it again

The dangote workers voluntarily joined pengassan, nobody forced them oooo, so why are you complaining about their dues.

maiunguwar:
If NUPENG and PENGASON are so fantastic,why have all the NNPC refineries stopped working?

Oga I asked you a simple question
Provide me exactly how pengassan ran the refineries down

Let me come down a little, how did the normal maintenance engineer, operators, safety engineers run the refineries down? Did they have access to the monies the refinery was generating? Or did they destroy refinery equipment? Come out clean with how exactly you know they destroyed the refinery

Zionmdde:
State practically how pengassan and nupeng destroyed the refinery. Just give me two ways ooooo. And also tell me the member of which union are responsible for all the crude oil production Nigeria have been surviving on

All workers of government refineries are Nupeng and Pengasan members. If refineries are sabotaged, just tell me who else must be involved in the sabotage. Secondly, all petrol tanker drivers diverting all our petrol to neighbouring countries, are they not Nupeng members? Is your question even necessary when the answer is obvious?

youngsahito:
how did they use their members to destroy private refinery? You guyz will just talk without understanding anything. Is it Pengasan that stopped the balablu from fixing the refineries after two years of removing subsidy. We are all hypocrite in Nigeria as long as we are not affected by that matter.

Who are the workers in the refineries? Are they not Nupeng members? Who else can destroy where they work if not themselves? Who are those that diverted our petrol to neighbouring countries? Are they not Nupeng members? Who instigated petrol marketers to continue to import petrol and not buy from Dangote? Is it not Nupeng members? So why are you asking the needless question?

Mohisah:
Who are the cartels? Keep whining yourself. When over 50% of staff protest against an organization, the organization is the problem.. 900+ staff joined union which is not prohibited. Why is he (Dangote) sacking them for their own freedom..

Indian man can nvr under pay the citizen to better foreigners. The firm will close immediately

Which skill do you have that they will pay you better than expatriate? Most of them there are just coming into contact with refinery process for the first time in their life and instead of them to learn they are out there comparing what Indian expatriates are earning . This is the reason no Nigerian manufacturing business last

Eniitankorede:
Who are the workers in the refineries? Are they not Nupeng members? Who else can destroy where they work if not themselves? Who are those that diverted our petrol to neighbouring countries? Are they not Nupeng members? Who instigated petrol marketers to continue to import petrol and not buy from Dangote? Is it not Nupeng members? So why are you asking the needless question?

You dey mind them ?

Zionmdde:
Now let's do something practical
Mention 2 times pengassan have gone on strike and why?
Point of correction
Unionism benefits all members of the union
If you are not in any then you have no rights to make some assumptions. Life is not lived on social media

You don’t need to ask me the times PENGASSAN has gone on strike, they are part of the Trade Union Congress, a sister body to the Nigerian Labour Congress...

The TUC and the NLC do go on strike together for reasons best known to them, so let’s assume TUC and NLC have a disagreement with the Federal Government and they mobilize for a 2-week strike... Dangote workers must join the strike in the spirit of unionism... Dangote a private-owned company oh...

Yes, life is not lived on social media. What some of us have done with unionism, most of you can’t do half of it... But on this occasion, I’ll support Dangote.

Zionmdde:
Oga I asked you a simple question
Provide me exactly how pengassan ran the refineries down

Let me come down a little, how did the normal maintenance engineer, operators, safety engineers run the refineries down? Did they have access to the monies the refinery was generating? Or did they destroy refinery equipment? Come out clean with how exactly you know they destroyed the refinery

Who then ran the refineries down? This is the template you want to transfer to dangote, the man get sense pass una

maiunguwar:
Who then ran the refineries down? This is the template you want to transfer to dangote, the man get sense pass una

You said pengassan did, now answer my question
How did they do that?

Reason why people like you get into unnecessary problems, saying something you don't know

I knew it was lie frm d beginning. If dem sack all nigerians at once like that who will operate a refinery?I always knew it was some people that got sacked n fighting back tru media.fake news dey social media

Judolisco:
You don’t need to ask me the times PENGASSAN has gone on strike, they are part of the Trade Union Congress, a sister body to the Nigerian Labour Congress...

The TUC and the NLC do go on strike together for reasons best known to them, so let’s assume TUC and NLC have a disagreement with the Federal Government and they mobilize for a 2-week strike... Dangote workers must join the strike in the spirit of unionism... Dangote a private-owned company oh...

Yes, life is not lived on social media. What some of us have done with unionism, most of you can’t do half of it... But on this occasion, I’ll support Dangote.

And you don't realize that without those strikes trying to checkmate the government, you won't even enjoy the minimum things you enjoy
How will a common man fight for minimum wage to be increased without unions

January is coming, if.you are employed, you will be earning less in January than what you earn today. Guess what, unions like pengassan have already gotten negotiations to ensure their members salaries don't get hit down.

Until you work under the mercy of FG.and State government where you can be owed for donkey months, you won't understand the importance of union fighting for the common man

Eniitankorede:
All workers of government refineries are Nupeng and Pengasan members. If refineries are sabotaged, just tell me who else must be involved in the sabotage. Secondly, all petrol tanker drivers diverting all our petrol to neighbouring countries, are they not Nupeng members? Is your question even necessary when the answer is obvious?

Oga petrol tank drivers are not pengassan members
Now answer my question objectively
How did the mechanical engineers, process, safety etc run down the refineries? Did they provide their accounts for people lifting products to pay into?

Before you can accuse Dangote Refinery of sacking them because of unionism you have to do serious investigations. The Refinery can claim they sack for a plethora of reasons and you may not be able to narrow it to unionism
Where FG refineries now ? So if this man is taking drastic and moral steps to maintain is refinery it's for the good of all.

Zionmdde:
You said pengassan did, now answer my question
How did they do that?

Reason why people like you get into unnecessary problems, saying something you don't know

Oga, Dangote said he doesn't want union in his refinery, you either accept his condition of employment or you carry your Nupeng and PENGASON to your NNPC refineries since you said they are not dead

I'm sure you're member of the cabals in Nupeng and PENGASON that have milked the country and held progress hostage

youngsahito:
SMH for you. Dangote pushed those guyz to join union. Now they have been sacked because a capitalist like Dangote will never support any labour union

Enjoy the rhythm! Afterall, in Dangote the foreigners are well remunerated than our own people. And this is well known as their modus operandi.
Anyways, i feel for them though. But, ATASAA! ATASAAA!! ATASAAAA!!! ATASAAAAA!!!!
As we speak right now federal workers are in worse conditions than them.
We must learn a lesson....LMAO
As it is we all must be smart because this Naija is not for the weak

Zionmdde:
Am sorry for that your lil brother though. If I ask you now, you will tell me 500k. So 500k is something to you in this economy. Na wa oooo.

Truck drivers: Risk x likelihood of death while on duty Very High
Teacher: Risk x likelihood of death while on duty very low
Tell me who should earn more again

Yes dangote model is the same model being used by all these Indian, Lebanese and Chinese companies. Where workers can be sacked at will, and face all sorts of dehumanizing treatment.

Difference between me and you is that while you are talking based on internet knowledge, I know different realities on ground

If Risk and likelihood of Death is the Scale of Renumeration

So why is a Dangote driver earning less than a staff pf Dangote in HR dept

How much is FG paying soldiers and how much is a councillor earning ...

If you must Argue, @least think before you talk

Zionmdde:
And you don't realize that without those strikes trying to checkmate the government, you won't even enjoy the minimum things you enjoy
How will a common man fight for minimum wage to be increased without unions

January is coming, if.you are employed, you will be earning less in January than what you earn today. Guess what, unions like pengassan have already gotten negotiations to ensure their members salaries don't get hit down.

Until you work under the mercy of FG.and State government where you can be owed for donkey months, you won't understand the importance of union fighting for the common man

oga that's what I'm saying, Unionism under government owned agencies and institutions is understandable... Under a private firm is where I have issues....