₦airaland Forum

P1PrinceKT:
You're asking DSS to go against the Law. Dangote Sacks his employees simply for joining a Union (which is their constitutional rights) and you're asking DSS to arrest the Union. Does that makes sense to you. Go and read section 40 of Nigeria Constitution and Nigeria labour act 2004.

P1PrinceKT:
When things are clear to you you will know

Zionmdde:
@ bolded. That's when dangote choose to defy the law of the country and international laws and sack workers for joining union

2nd NNPC does not give anybody license for anything, you can't write a long epistle of what you don't know

Dangote is owing nnpc a lot of money somewhere

No PENGASSAN leader is in any filling station or has any business or invested interest with any anywhere in this country

Who suffers more? Dangote, the sacked workers, the thousands of Indians replacing Nigeria, the common man, the uncommon man, together in unity we will all suffer for the injustice meted on those sacked workers

NNPC is not Pengassan and pengassan is not nnpc. Why not also call out total, Chevron, nlng, seplat, shell and the rest because their staffs are also pengassan members.

If NNPC refuses to sell crude to dangote, let him buy from total or mobil, or seplat or Chevron they are all crude producers

Go and read your books for next year utme abeg. For your mind now you have written an essay

Injury to those sacked workers is injury to everyone. When we learn to stand up for each other, oppression will end

Godfullsam:
I don't think unionisation should be mandatory, especially in the private sectors .

It should be optional and the employers should let the employees know that they will not entertain unionisation for what ever reason before employing them.
So that anyone taking the job will know he/she will not be joining any labour union.
I believe government will never ask dangote to shut down his refinery if he insisted he won't allow his employees to join any union.

P1PrinceKT:
The reason for sacking them was joining a Union. Is joining a Union against the law? As an employer you don't have power to go against the law of the land, which grant employees every right to or not join any Union of their trade.

Zionmdde:
The right to associate or dissociate is for employees not for employers. So did thr workers tell you they wanted to dissociate
Have you seen your life awon industry fuel station dispenser
Pemgassan have no business with anything truck. Oil industry worker don't know the difference between nupeng and pengassan
Now continue dispensing the fuel you are dispensing

Osezzua:
So much ignorance in one post. Most Nigerians like to comment on what they know absolutely nothing about.

NNPC doesn't issue license to refineries, infact they are competitors with Dangote refinery.

Secondly, unionization of workers isn't a privilege, rather it's the worker's right guaranteed in our constitution and also in compliance with the ILO(International Labor Organization) regulation.

We have IOCs operating in Nigeria where we have PENGASSAN as a union.

Harmony and progress have always been sustained. Why does Dangote feel that he can hire and fire Nigerians arbitrarily?

Are they slaves to only be spoken to? Who does that?

Fire Nigerians as if they are in a labor camp? Come on guys, Nigerians can't be treated that way abroad and be treated the same way in their God given land.

This act shall be resisted to the end. Unionization of Nigerian workers doesn't mean death to the organization.

This is evident in other IOCs who have been operating in Nigeria for over 50yrs and have had their workers unionized.

If Dangote doesn't have ulterior motives, why is he afraid of the Union?

Not like any confrontation has taken place yet. Let him go back to the dialogue table and discuss.

happney65:
Pengasson is capping. Real capping. Why should unionization be made compulsory? Why?

They can go ahead and do their worst and Dangote should call off their bluff. Because on this,I support Dangote 100percent

DatNiggaDaz:
Dangote must obey the laws of the Land. Workers in the Petroleum industry must be allowed to be unionized.

Dangote is not above Nigerian Law. He must run his refinery within the jurisdiction of the employment laws in Nigeria.

He should never be allowed to have the say alone and monopolize the sector like he did in cement sector

Wallade:
If Dangote Refinery get mind, then the refinery should call off PENGASSON's bluff naaaa.

We dey wait.

ilebaye2017:
Too many long epistles for me to comprehend here.
Please, I just want to know if the supposed strike is indefinite and if it will possibly disrupt fuel supply to filing stations.
Thank you.

amazonguru001:
In as much as I resisted the urge not to add a word to this ongoing argument, but for the benefits of innocently minded Nigerians like you , let me educate you a little bit.

Unionisation is not compulsory. Workers who are willing to join the union, signify their intention to be part of the union by obtaining a form fill same and send an email to the union.

Does anyone who is compelled or forced to join an association obtain a form and fill it under duress ?

Union matters are not peculiar to our country.
Nigeria is not a stand-alone country. We are signatory to the international labour acts and a member of the international labour organisation (ILO) whose task is to seek and ensure that workers' rights and benefits are protected.

Dont be fooled by Dangote's theatrics. He, just like many employers don't mean well for their employees.
If not for the Union. Many workers would be treated as slaves. While the employers act like they are doing the workers a favour by paying them paltry salaries. Forgetting that the company exists, progresses and make profit because dedicated employees are doing their best to meet the company's set goals. Hence, it is a symbiotic relationship. And not one of master-slave.

Imagine where I work. I worked for 10 years, and I never had pension, my tax are deducted, and there is no HMO.

But the moment I and my colleagues joined the union, the Union had back and forth with the company, took the matter to the ministry of Labour, the company was reprimanded and told to do the right thing or be ready to argue their case in the court stating why they should not be prosecuted for not complying with the nations pension act.

The right thing is to pay workers pension contributions.
They immediately agreed and complied.

Today. Just 4 years after compliance to paying the pension , it will amaze you to know that my pension balance is sitting at 13M. This is just for 4 years oh.

Now I have retirement benefits, good HMO, nice take home and my tax are also taken care of by the compnay. All of which were non-existent in my over 10 years of pre-unionisation work years.

No doubt, the union (PENGASSAN & NUPENG, etc ) smile to the bank with members dues , but trust me, it is worth every penny they take from me.

Baba, forget all the cry of Dangote saying Pengassan/Nupeng is trying to sabotage the economy. Na wash.

Have you forgotten how Dangote refused to tell Nigerians how much he was selling fuel to NNPC when he first started production and NNPC was the only OFF TAKER.

The price was high.
Nigerias were crying. Asking him to tell us how much he sold to NNPC for NNPC to be selling at that ridiculous pump price to Nigerians.
For months. He refused. Not until Independent marketers decided to boycott him and keep importing saying, it was cheaper for them.

He sued the NNPC to direct the Independent Marketers to buy from him and not to import.
What is more monopolistic than this?

He was called to order and later withdrew the case.

As a way to fight back, he reduced the prices of all his products. So as to reduce the profit margin for the importers.
So this was possible earlier, yet he didn't do it. Lol.

Whatever price reduction you see today is being made possible because of the price war between him and the Independent marketers who themselves are greedy lots and evil cabals in the oil & gas industry

As a result, you and I. The ordinary Nigerians are the beneficiary of whatever cold war exists between them.

Trust me, if Dangote has his way, with his monopolistic tendency, then it's finished for the oil and gas industry.

In case you are not aware, this current union action was a result of Dangote sacking all his workers who are pengassan members.
You dont do that now. That's called work place victimisation.

Just like you are arguing. Union member is voluntary. As long as the workers are willing to, employers are expected to recognise workers' rights of membership of any legal trade union.

Without people being union members, when evil, Wicked and profit driven employers like Dangote swing their hammer against the workers, who would stand for such workers?

Just like in this case, you just wake up to see that you have been sacked for whatever reason. Especially for being a union member. Would you be happy if no one rises and stands for you.

What this means is, bread winners would suddenly lose their means of livelihood.
Families are plunged into poverty and, of course, consequently untold hardship.
This singular act adds to the unemployment rate, with the possibility of attendant increase in crime rate as human instinct for survival kicks in naturally. All because of Dangote's ill advised move, in his bid to make a strong statement to the union.

This is exactly what the union is trying to fight off.
You cant just wake up as an employer to sack your employees and then replace them with Indians.

Dey play.

Injury to one is injury to all.

You can never have a stand-off with the UNION, especially when it comes to victimisation due to union membership and expect to win.

Solidarity, forever.
Workers united can never be defeated .

FOR THE UNION MAKES US STRONG.

erico2k2:
I think he can, cos he can buy crude abroad and sell PMS abroad

FreeStuffsNG:
Economic sabotage. They will definitely be arrested and prosecuted. They will answer for every death, destruction and losses.

When they were looking for jobs, same Nigerians were putting pressure on government to make laws that favour hiring of Nigerians. Now that we have piled pressure on government to hire them, this is how they want to reward us? Kolewek o.
Go and arrest and prosecute them nah... you go learn in a hard way

Now I understand why some companies in that sector don't hire them.

Wallade:
Let him try naa. If Dangote Refinery lose Nigeria market, they have lost a significant chunck of market share.

Wallade:
Let him try naa. If Dangote Refinery lose Nigeria market, they have lost a significant chunck of market share.

Wallade:
Let him try naa. If Dangote Refinery lose Nigeria market, they have lost a significant chunck of market share.

owagbeba:
Dangote imports his crude. And exports his product. When this effect hits the dollar exchange rate , then Association of bureau de change go protest. A country wey get crude oil, but factory for the country dey import crude to use…. What a country!

abuhusna1:
Freedom of association is guarantee but freedom after association in a private company is not guaranteed.

Sugarboyy:
The Nigeria constitution doesn't stipulates that every employees must belongs to a union, it's not mandatory. It's the choice of an individual to join a union or not (freedom of association) and because of the antecedents of Nigeria unions, privately own companies can decide not to employ unionised members and it's still within their right.
If my company becomes a multi national, before anyone is employed, I will make sure the person sign that he/she must not belong to any union an if the person goes contrary, I will have the right to sack the person without gratuity. If the person nor gree sign, make he/she go meet their union to employ them.
My company can't be grounded by union members because another company did fellow union members wrong

P1PrinceKT:
Then how can you rise against it?

amazonguru001:
In as much as I resisted the urge not to add a word to this ongoing argument, but for the benefits of innocently minded Nigerians like you , let me educate you a little bit.

Unionisation is not compulsory. Workers who are willing to join the union, signify their intention to be part of the union by obtaining a form fill same and send an email to the union.

Does anyone who is compelled or forced to join an association obtain a form and fill it under duress ?

Union matters are not peculiar to our country.
Nigeria is not a stand-alone country. We are signatory to the international labour acts and a member of the international labour organisation (ILO) whose task is to seek and ensure that workers' rights and benefits are protected.

Dont be fooled by Dangote's theatrics. He, just like many employers don't mean well for their employees.
If not for the Union. Many workers would be treated as slaves. While the employers act like they are doing the workers a favour by paying them paltry salaries. Forgetting that the company exists, progresses and make profit because dedicated employees are doing their best to meet the company's set goals. Hence, it is a symbiotic relationship. And not one of master-slave.

Imagine where I work. I worked for 10 years, and I never had pension, my tax are deducted, and there is no HMO.

But the moment I and my colleagues joined the union, the Union had back and forth with the company, took the matter to the ministry of Labour, the company was reprimanded and told to do the right thing or be ready to argue their case in the court stating why they should not be prosecuted for not complying with the nations pension act.

The right thing is to pay workers pension contributions.
They immediately agreed and complied.

Today. Just 4 years after compliance to paying the pension , it will amaze you to know that my pension balance is sitting at 13M. This is just for 4 years oh.

Now I have retirement benefits, good HMO, nice take home and my tax are also taken care of by the compnay. All of which were non-existent in my over 10 years of pre-unionisation work years.

No doubt, the union (PENGASSAN & NUPENG, etc ) smile to the bank with members dues , but trust me, it is worth every penny they take from me.

Baba, forget all the cry of Dangote saying Pengassan/Nupeng is trying to sabotage the economy. Na wash.

Have you forgotten how Dangote refused to tell Nigerians how much he was selling fuel to NNPC when he first started production and NNPC was the only OFF TAKER.

The price was high.
Nigerias were crying. Asking him to tell us how much he sold to NNPC for NNPC to be selling at that ridiculous pump price to Nigerians.
For months. He refused. Not until Independent marketers decided to boycott him and keep importing saying, it was cheaper for them.

He sued the NNPC to direct the Independent Marketers to buy from him and not to import.
What is more monopolistic than this?

He was called to order and later withdrew the case.

As a way to fight back, he reduced the prices of all his products. So as to reduce the profit margin for the importers.
So this was possible earlier, yet he didn't do it. Lol.

Whatever price reduction you see today is being made possible because of the price war between him and the Independent marketers who themselves are greedy lots and evil cabals in the oil & gas industry

As a result, you and I. The ordinary Nigerians are the beneficiary of whatever cold war exists between them.

Trust me, if Dangote has his way, with his monopolistic tendency, then it's finished for the oil and gas industry.

In case you are not aware, this current union action was a result of Dangote sacking all his workers who are pengassan members.
You dont do that now. That's called work place victimisation.

Just like you are arguing. Union member is voluntary. As long as the workers are willing to, employers are expected to recognise workers' rights of membership of any legal trade union.

Without people being union members, when evil, Wicked and profit driven employers like Dangote swing their hammer against the workers, who would stand for such workers?

Just like in this case, you just wake up to see that you have been sacked for whatever reason. Especially for being a union member. Would you be happy if no one rises and stands for you.

What this means is, bread winners would suddenly lose their means of livelihood.
Families are plunged into poverty and, of course, consequently untold hardship.
This singular act adds to the unemployment rate, with the possibility of attendant increase in crime rate as human instinct for survival kicks in naturally. All because of Dangote's ill advised move, in his bid to make a strong statement to the union.

This is exactly what the union is trying to fight off.
You cant just wake up as an employer to sack your employees and then replace them with Indians.

Dey play.

Injury to one is injury to all.

You can never have a stand-off with the UNION, especially when it comes to victimisation due to union membership and expect to win.

Solidarity, forever.
Workers united can never be defeated .

FOR THE UNION MAKES US STRONG.

chidiokay:
Lolzzz my very funny friend, Pls back it up in the constitution, which section mandate an employer must join Union ..

Are you aware Dangote cement is not under Union, And there are even many private companies not under Union .. be my guest nd ask people with knowledge

Unilorin didnt join ASUU for 20yrs did the school die, even the university under ASUU were they better than Unilorin then.

Maybe you dont know the story, Dangote bought new CNG trucks and deciders to employ drivers for his truck, most of this drivers turn out to be Nupeng members, then he creat is Term n condition for employment i dont want Unionism ...

Now to the employee its an open choice, decide to stick with your Union or exit nd find job elsewhere they chose Union thats is a reply itself .. literally that prompted there lay off, dangote just clicked OK

No be these country we dey a governor told all his staffs as i am defecting to APC, if any of you wont knindly resign .. why Pdp not carry them go court

Somethings are common sense walahai, You made your choice live with it

erico2k2:
I think he can, cos he can buy crude abroad and sell PMS abroad

Minjim:
What is the benefits of joining a union?
It is to protect workers from inimical policies of the company.
We all know that Dangote workers everywhere are well paid with good renumeration. PENGASSAN just want to infiltrate the Dangote Refinery so they can manipulate their operations the way they have grounded NNPCL.
If you are a biz man that have made such a huge investment, will you allow such unions to dictate how you run your company . The Refinery has its own union but PENGASSAN want to force workers to join . The same thing they're are accusing Dangote of ,they're themselves are guilty of .
My take is that , Dangote Refinery should be left alone . With unionism we've seen what has become of government owned companies.

Zionmdde:
Another ignorance. Most pengassan members have since left the refinery. Infact no pengassan member from nnpc is currently there. Stop saying what you don't know

Pengassan don't need dues from any dangote refinery. That's the wealthiest union in Nigeria you are talking about. You think someone earning 5million per month really needs the dues of a 300k salary earner. Na wa oooo