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Gabrielshow24:
Lovely, straw man😁 but the context is there 🥱.

Pls, do better and kindly provide a case for your god. I know you are vehemently trying to deflect but it won't work with me.

🤣🤣🤣Baba said I am deflecting. Oya explain the context of Luke 11:50 let's hear. what does the "foundation of the world" mean?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Baba said I am deflecting. Oya explain the context of Luke 11:50 let's hear. what does the "foundation of the world" mean?

😮‍💨 truthseeker10, afraid of seeking the truth. Hiding behind laughs and deflections. Your refusal to answer my questions proves beyond reasonably doubt that your position is flawed.

You are looking for what to attack or what to discuss to avoid the ’Crux ’of this discussion. It's too late for that. Anyone can see how you singled out on this in a bid to further your folly? Have you forgotten you posted two verses? Why not use the other one?

Irrespective, the concept is clear. I won't waste my time explaining that to you. You must provide the context of how your god created the world? Specifically, when! So that we can determine whether my use of ’eternity past’ is wrong👀. Your circumlocutions won't help you. Tell us, we are intrigued when did your god make the universe? Bring whatever proof: scientific, academical, biblical or whatever ’cal' or ’ic’ you can find to corroborate your point.

Gabrielshow24:
😮‍💨 truthseeker10, afraid of seeking the truth. Hiding behind laughs and deflections. Your refusal to answer my questions proves beyond reasonably doubt that your position is flawed.

You are looking for what to attack or what to discuss to avoid the ’Crux ’of this discussion. It's too late for that. Anyone can see how you singled out on this in a bid to further your folly? Have you forgotten you posted two verses? Why not use the other one?

Irrespective, the concept is clear. I won't waste my time explaining that to you. You must provide the context of how your god created the world? Specifically, when! So that we can determine whether my use of ’eternity past’ is wrong👀. Your circumlocutions won't help you. Tell us, we are intrigued when did your god make the universe? Bring whatever proof: scientific, academical, biblical or whatever ’cal' or ’ic’ you can find to corroborate your point.

🤣🤣Baba don run as he see Luke 11:50. He claimed that the "foundation of the world" in that verse is about context. Oya explain the context na if you are not a deceiver.

Does Luke 11:50 mean that the blood of prophets have been shed since when God started creating the universe? Simple question. You cannot emotionally blackmail me baba.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣Baba don run as he see Luke 11:50. He claimed that the "foundation of the world" in that verse is about context. Oya explain the context na if you are not a deceiver.

Does Luke 11:50 mean that the blood of prophets have been shed since when God started creating the universe? Simple question. You cannot emotionally blackmail me baba.

I don't need to. Your folly exposes you. The context is there.

Your straw man is fascinating but it shows your desperation 🥱. I asked you a question about when your god created the world and the universe? You singled out on Luke 11:50 even though you gave two verses. The other being this:
’John 17:24

King James Bible
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.’

In your bid to further your doctrine you expose yourself as a deceiver🤨. The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧

Now, tell us based on this when did your god make the universe? And how my use of the phrase 'eternity past' is wrong? 🤨I am waiting.

Gabrielshow24:
I don't need to. Your folly exposes you. The context is there.

Your straw man is fascinating but it shows your desperation 🥱. I asked you a question about when your god created the world and the universe? You singled out on Luke 11:50 even though you gave two verses. The other being this:
’John 17:24

King James Bible
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.’

In your bid to further your doctrine you expose yourself as a deceiver🤨. The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧

Now, tell us based on this when did your god make the universe? And how my use of the phrase 'eternity past' is wrong? 🤨I am waiting.

Explain the context na. If we understand what "from the foundation of the world" means then we would understand what "before the foundation of the world" means. Oya explain Luke 11:50.

Truthseeker10:
Explain the context na. If we understand what "from the foundation of the world" means then we would understand what "before the foundation of the world" means. Oya explain Luke 11:50.

Are you implying Jesus existed before the creation of man? Remember man was made in Genesis 1🤧 and Scripture has it that Jesus made everything. You also ridiculously affirmed that He is the Everlasting Father😂.

Now keeping in mind the above, when did your god make the universe? And how is my phrase 'eternity past' wrong?🤨

By the way, I have explained that. Re-read my write-up and cure your redundancy 🥱.

let us assume for a moment that Jesus actually existed, how is he different from us?

God created man as a way for Him to experience his creation.
After God has finished creation, he then took dust from the earth molded the statue of a man and then sent his spirit inside the statue
and it came to life....it became conscious of its environment.

so each of us are Gods spirit experiencing life in multiple ways.

when our number is up, we tap out, our body is buried so as to become one with the earth and our spirit returns to God who gave it
(Ecclesiastics 12:7)
so why the commotion about Jesus? if he was real, how is he different from us? That is what i still don't get and understand
what is he saving us from? when the idea of salvation was raised in the Tanakh, it is always from physical danger.

please can a well grounded Christian who understands the jargon that is Christianity enlighten me. I am waiting.

sonmvayina:
let us assume for a moment that Jesus actually existed, how is he different from us?

God created man as a way for Him to experience his creation.
After God has finished creation, he then took dust from the earth molded the statue of a man and then sent his spirit inside the statue
and it came to life....it became conscious of its environment.

so each of us are Gods spirit experiencing life in multiple ways.

when our number is up, we tap out, our body is buried so as to become one with the earth and our spirit returns to God who gave it
(Ecclesiastics 12:7)
so why the commotion about Jesus? if he was real, how is he different from us? That is what i still don't get and understand
what is he saving us from? when the idea of salvation was raised in the Tanakh, it is always from physical danger.

please can a well grounded Christian who understands the jargon that is Christianity enlighten me. I am waiting.

Basically it's your god's spirit committing crimes here and there😮‍💨... Woah, your god is experiencing a life of crime through us😳. Woah, what a god!

Gabrielshow24:
Are you implying Jesus existed before the creation of man? Remember man was made in Genesis 1🤧 and Scripture has it that Jesus made everything. You also ridiculously affirmed that He is the Everlasting Father😂.

Now keeping in mind the above, when did your god make the universe? And how is my phrase 'eternity past' wrong?🤨

By the way, I have explained that. Re-read my write-up and cure your redundancy 🥱.

Below is your statement in explaining Luke 11:50.

"The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧"

1) Are you saying that "from the foundation of the world" in Luke 11:50 refers to Adam?

2)You claimed that John 17:24 refer to before "The creation of the world" or "possibly the universe".
Are you implying that the "foundation of the world" can refer to Adam?

Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement in explaining Luke 11:50.

"The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧"

1) Are you saying that "from the foundation of the world" in Luke 11:50 refers to Adam?

2)You claimed that John 17:24 refer to before "The creation of the world" or "possibly the universe".
Are you implying that the "foundation of the world" can refer to Adam?

🥱🥱Hopeless redundancy 🤨.

Who is the subject of the 1? And who is the subject of 2?🤨 In your vain bid to continue, you expose yourself vividly. Pls, tell me how did your god made the universe? And how is my phrase, ’eternity past’ wrong? Your questions are tangential at best🥱.

Gabrielshow24:
🥱🥱Hopeless redundancy 🤨.

Who is the subject of the 1? And who is the subject of 2?🤨 In your vain bid to continue, you expose yourself vividly. Pls, tell me how did your god make the universe? And how is my phrase, ’eternity past’ wrong? Your questions are tangential at best🥱.

1)please Answer who the subject of 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24. Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

Truthseeker10:
1)please Answer who the subject 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24. Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

you are wasting your time, try as you may. My question stands, I have given the required context. You can continue with your contrived straw man🤨.

Once again, tell me how your god made the universe and how my use of the phrase ’eternity past’ is wrong? 😁

Gabrielshow24:
you are wasting your time, try as you may. My question stands, I have given the required context. You can continue with your contrived straw man🤨.

Once again, tell me how your god made the universe and how my use of the phrase ’eternity past’ is wrong? 😁

the answer to the question that you are asking me is in your answer to the questions below that is pertaining to what you explained in John 17:24 and luke 11:50.

1)please Answer who the subject of 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

i am Gods spirit experiencing life as sonmvayina
max is Gods spirit experiencing life as maximus
ken4christ is Gods spirit experiencing life as Kenneth. etc.
if Jesus was real, he would have been Gods spirit experiencing life as Jesus.

what is the faux?
why worship him? is that not idolatry? he died, just as we all will die, when our time is up too.

God is the totality of all the spirit(consciousness) in the universe. it is not a man or a human being.
we all is the totality of that spirit ( image and likeness) living within a physical body made from dust. that is the miracle if you ask me. Not magically turning water into wine.
i think we really need to educate ourselves and end this madness of worshipping a white dude as God and learn the true nature of our selves.,

Truthseeker10:
the answer to the question that you are asking me is in your answer to the questions below that is pertaining to what you explained in John 17:24 and luke 11:50.

1)please Answer who the subject of 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

It's not, it's your usual deflection and folly🥱. Answer the question or concede your loss in peace😁.

So many questions you got stumped by🤔—fascinating. Even with your aristotelian inquiry, you achieved nothing but continually showed your folly🤔.

sonmvayina:
i am Gods spirit experiencing life as sonmvayina
max is Gods spirit experiencing life as maximus
ken4christ is Gods spirit experiencing life as Kenneth. etc.
if Jesus was real, he would have been Gods spirit experiencing life as Jesus.

what is the faux?
why worship him? is that not idolatry? he died, just as we all will die, when our time is up too.

God is the totality of all the spirit(consciousness) in the universe. it is not a man or a human being.
we all is the totality of that spirit ( image and likeness) living within a physical body made from dust. that is the miracle if you ask me. Not magically turning water into wine.
i think we really need to educate ourselves and end this madness of worshipping a white dude as God and learn the true nature of our selves.,

That means it's your god's spirit committing crimes🤷. Deal with it; that your conundrum 🥱

Gabrielshow24:
It's not, it's your usual deflection and folly🥱. Answer the question or concede your loss in peace😁.

So many questions you got stumped by🤔—fascinating. Even with your aristotelian inquiry, you achieved nothing but continually showed your folly🤔.

Why are you also deflecting the question concerning your explanation of the two verses?

1)please Answer who the subject of 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

Truthseeker10:
Why are you also deflecting the question concerning your explanation of the two verses?

1)please Answer who the subject of 1 is in luke 11:50. Is it Adam that is referred to as "from the foundation of the world"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Answer please

I have given you the required context 😅, you also have the verse and your bible at your disposal to know who the subject of luke11:50 is🥱. You can do likewise with john17:24. Your questions profit you nothing, they can't help you. Kindly tell us, when your god made the universe? And why my phrase ’eternity past’ is wrong?

These are the ’recent' pertinent questions among others that you have failed to answer 😊.

Gabrielshow24:
I have given you the required context 😅, you also have the verse and your bible at your disposal to know who the subject of luke11:50 is🥱. You can do likewise with john17:24. Your questions profit you nothing, they can't help you. Kindly tell us, when your god made the universe? And why my phrase ’eternity past’ is wrong?

These are the ’recent' pertinent questions among others that you have failed to answer 😊.

1)You mean you don't know who "from the foundation of the world" is referring to in luke 11:50 even when you claim that it refers to when "man was made"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

Truthseeker10:
1)You mean you don't know who "from the foundation of the world" is referring to in luke 11:50 even when you claim that it refers to when "man was made"?

2) why did you make a distinction between "creation of the world" and "possibly the universe" in your explanation of John 17:24? Are you implying that "before the foundation of the world" can refer to "before Adam" instead of "before the creation of the Universe"?

🥱 you can refer to my post. Strawman, mundane aristotelian inquiry and redundancy are your ’tactics’ of deflection 🥱 but they don't work on me, son😉.

You have done this several times in the past, it's stale. Once again, when did your god make the universe and why is my use of the phrase, ’eternity past’ wrong?

Gabrielshow24:
Basically it's your god's spirit committing crimes here and there😮‍💨... Woah, your god is experiencing a life of crime through us😳. Woah, what a god!

you lack basic knowledge....is that what you picked up from what i said? shame...

you don't get it..do you?

we are Gods spirit living within a physical body made from dust. this is what man is. it is man that is committing crimes against himself and killing each other for lack of knowledge and ignorance. because they are now all clothed with dust, they do not recognize themselves.

Gabrielshow24:
Basically it's your god's spirit committing crimes here and there😮‍💨... Woah, your god is experiencing a life of crime through us😳. Woah, what a god!

do you understand anything i typed up there?

or you are contented being ignorant.

sonmvayina:
you lack basic knowledge....is that what you picked up from what i said? shame...

you don't get it..do you?

we are Gods spirit living within a physical body made from dust. this is what man is. it is man that is committing crimes against himself and killing each other for lack of knowledge and ignorance. because they are now all clothed with dust, they do not recognize themselves.

How can they be man, when they are your god's spirit? 🤷

Definitely, it's not God's spirit🥱. The spirit of God is one!

Thus, Your idea is flawed and I am exposing ... The basic knowledge you lack... In concocting such!

sonmvayina:
do you understand anything i typed up there?

or you are contented being ignorant.

🤨You made the assertion and I have given you ’your implication’, now you call me... ignorant 😮‍💨...whew, people just don't think deeply 🤕 any more.

Gabrielshow24:
🥱 you can refer to my post. Strawman, mundane aristotelian inquiry and redundancy are your ’tactics’ of deflection 🥱 but they don't work on me, son😉.

You have done this several times in the past, it's stale. Once again, when did your god make the universe and why is my use of the phrase, ’eternity past’ wrong?

1)You mean you don't know who "from the foundation of the world" is referring to in luke 11:50 even when you claim that it refers to when "man was made"?

2) even meta ai is saying that you are not sure of your explanation of John 17:24. So how does your uncertainty in your explanation equate to "eternity past"?

"The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧"

Truthseeker10:
1)You mean you don't know who "from the foundation of the world" is referring to in luke 11:50 even when you claim that it refers to when "man was made"?

2) even meta ai is saying that you are not sure of your explanation of John 17:24. So how does your uncertainty in your explanation equate to "eternity past"?

"The verse you so picked has a context, ’shedding of the blood of prophets’ this can only happen after when man was made. As for the second one, it's very clear that it is before the creation of the world and ’possibly’ the universe.🤧"

Meta ai has exposed you🥱. I have given you the context stop wasting my time🤨. Tell me when your god made the universe and how my phrase 'eternity past' is a mistake? 😁

Gabrielshow24:
Meta ai has exposed you🥱. I have given you the context stop wasting my time🤨. Tell me when your god made the universe and how my phrase 'eternity past' is a mistake? 😁

are you claiming that meta ai is lying that you are unsure of your interpretation of John 17:24? If yes, I would end this conversation now or possibly block you. I have been asking questions since because of your uncertainty in those explanations that you gave even when you were claiming with certainty that they meant "eternity past".

Truthseeker10:
are you claiming that meta ai is lying that you are unsure of your interpretation of John 17:24? If yes, I would end this conversation now or possibly block you. I have been asking questions since because of your uncertainty in those explanations that you gave even when you were claiming with certainty that they meant "eternity past".

🥱 redundancy. Your final bid is to show that because I used air quotes around, ’possibly’, that my argument is flawed in using ’eternity past’ earlier🤨. Make it make sense🤷.

Once again, when did your god make the universe and why is my use of the phrase ’eternity past’ wrong? If you like block me, that's your business. It goes to show that the truth is bitter. You were not asking questions because of uncertainty but rather as a deflection. Looking for straw to grasp unto🥱but you found me a more slippery antagonist 🤨.

When you are ready, let me know. I will compile all the questions you have evaded and avoided today along with your ’beautiful answers’ that affirmed your ’dependent and insufficient’ god😅.

Gabrielshow24:
🥱 redundancy. Your final bid is to show that because I used air quotes around, ’possibly’, that my argument is flawed in using ’eternity past’ earlier🤨. Make it make sense🤷.

Once again, when did your god make the universe and why is my use of the phrase ’eternity past’ wrong? If you like block me, that's your business. It goes to show that the truth is bitter. You were not asking questions because of uncertainty but rather as a deflection. Looking for straw to grasp unto🥱but you found me a more slippery antagonist 🤨.

When you are ready, let me know. I will compile all the questions you have evaded and avoided today along with your ’beautiful answers’ that affirmed your ’dependent and insufficient’ god😅.

Enjoy.

Truthseeker10:
Enjoy.

Take your 'L' in peace 😁. Next time, ensure your ’thinking cap’ is on when you intend to engage with me. It's become a ’routine run over’ whenever we have a discourse. You always entangle yourself and your comrades😅... This reminds me of your 'prince of peace’ ludicrous assertions—’Jehovah is the prince of peace’—some months back😂. Just like this, it was a debacle👀. That's what happens when your theology is not sound🤤.

See ya, some other time😊.

Gabrielshow24:
Take your 'L' in peace 😁. Next time, ensure your ’thinking cap’ is on when you intend to engage with me. It's become a ’routine run over’ whenever we have a discourse. You always entangle yourself and your comrades😅... This reminds me of your 'prince of peace’ ludicrous assertions—’Jehovah is the prince of peace’—some months back😂. Just like this, it was a debacle👀. That's what happens when your theology is not sound🤤.

See ya, some other time😊.

ah....baba don finally run after been exposed by Meta ai that his interpretation of John 17:24 is ambigously referring to eternal past or beginning of the universe. Sorry oo. Take heart. Bye bye.

Truthseeker10:
ah....baba don finally run after been exposed by Meta ai that his interpretation of John 17:24 is ambigously referring to eternal past or beginning of the universe. Sorry oo. Take heart. Bye bye.

🥱 Anything to soothe your wounds🤧...You definitely need it, just don't beat yourself up😁 too much.