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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:45pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
This is very crazy talk

Europe alone would rather NOT shoulder the bill alone in Ukraine
The same way USA couldn't shoulder the bill or manpower/logistical costs of their misadventures in Afghanistan AND Iraq

USA and Europe are partners AND THEY BACK each other up
Well, they did until this knuckleheads took over in Washington DC.

Europe held the ground for USA in Afghanistan and especially Iraq
Even Ukraine fought and donated troops (and lost troops) at the behest of the USA

So again, the argument is bollocks

The reason why America didn't directly burn Syria to the ground AFTER the chemical attack Obama warned against was BECAUSE Britain, America wingman backed out (in Obi's voice, GO AND VERIFY)

All these your takes are so funny
Ukraine is seeking to join EU, Russia is fighting them for them yet US is the one bailing and helping them out

The EU ministers are always in white house beggng for more aid

Even the EU capitulated to Trumps tarrif
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:46pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Seems like this thread is a right wing cesspool

Time to hit the unfollow button

No point further engaging here
Your non-right wingness has been a refreshing contribution, and while I'm sad to see you go, I can understand you not feeling the need to waste your time here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:46pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
That is what UK has become .. CRAP
this is additional crap from you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:47pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
This is very crazy talk

Europe alone would rather NOT shoulder the bill alone in Ukraine
The same way USA couldn't shoulder the bill or manpower/logistical costs of their misadventures in Afghanistan AND Iraq

USA and Europe are partners AND THEY BACK each other up
Well, they did until this knuckleheads took over in Washington DC.

Europe held the ground for USA in Afghanistan and especially Iraq
Even Ukraine fought and donated troops (and lost troops) at the behest of the USA

So again, the argument is bollocks

The reason why America didn't directly burn Syria to the ground AFTER the chemical attack Obama warned against was BECAUSE Britain, America wingman backed out (in Obi's voice, GO AND VERIFY)

All these your takes are so funny
You can grandstand on the internet while your leaders are capitulating to Trump

This is from UK Guardian

Surrender is always one way to end a war. The capitulation of the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, to Donald Trump’s demands for a grossly lopsided trade deal in which most EU goods exported to the US will face far higher tariffs than US products face in the EU is not only humiliating; it also does not prevent a transatlantic trade war.

Indeed, to paraphrase the Prussian military thinker Carl von Clausewitz, it is merely the pursuit of a trade war by other means. After six months of bullying by Trump, the Europeans have acquiesced to a provisional settlement that penalises their exporters and commits the world’s largest trade bloc to buying hundreds of billions of dollars of US fossil fuels and weapons for the duration of his presidency, rather than risk the blanket 30% tariffs he had threatened from 1 August.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/28/eu-capitulated-donald-trump-transatlantic-trade-war

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On Oct 07, 2025
budaatum:
I so do not endorse this statement and I label it lies.

raum should learn that millionaires are a very tiny small portion of British citizens and most of us are not leaving Britain.
They are the business owners who create jobs and when they leave the whole country becomes poorer and just a race to who is th poorest

The millionaires are going to where their success is celebrated and not punished

For the same effort in US you get rewarded more
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:49pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Ukraine is seeking to join EU, Russia is fighting them for them yet US is the one bailing and helping them out

The EU ministers are always in white house beggng for more aid

Even the EU capitulated to Trumps tarrif
Now u are grasping at straws lol

You do know that if Europe backs out of the; Bretton Woods order, it is finished for the United States ?

Trump with his gra gra and acting irrational appeal to a lot of people with 3rd world mentality because that is what you guys are accustomed to
A buffoon showing off and acting crass trying to show who is boss....

Previous American presidents also wielded influence but did not have to act like a 6 year old girl
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
this is additional crap from you.
Be wailing while the UK leaders are rolling out the red carpet and military to welcome their Daddy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:57pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Please can you provide comparative data?

Average americans do not have access to affordable health care as their counterparts do in the EU.

And I have been clear with my stance..The folks who want to migrate to the US is mainly for higher pay.. nothing more nothing less.
higher pay
.... and not wanting tax
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:58pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Be wailing while the UK leaders are rolling out the red carpet and military to welcome their Daddy
Well
by the end of this decade
we shall revisit this
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:59pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Now u are grasping at straws lol

You do know that if Europe backs out of the; Bretton Woods order, it is finished for the United States ?

Trump with his gra gra and acting irrational appeal to a lot of people with 3rd world mentality because that is what you guys are accustomed to
A buffoon showing off and acting crass trying to show who is boss....

Previous American presidents also wielded influence but did not have to act like a 6 year old girl
Before its finished for US, Europe will already become Syria

Trump is not appealing to anyone, even EU people wished they had a leader with a spine

See how they all fold in his presence

NATO members are now forced to pay 5% of their GDP as defence budget, that is the power of Trump
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:00pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
And what is it?

You mean the barometer of the proliferation of guns and the affinity for child molestation ?

But never about affordable health care for the poor.
Child molestation can be found on any spectrum but it is more so on the leftist side of the spectrum.

You said you love trump but you unrighteousness call him a child molester. You don't have any basis for your claim. You are focus only on Trump, a guy you claimed to love 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:01pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Well
by the end of this decade
we shall revisit this
End of this decade? That is why the UK and EU bent to Trump tarrif demands after initial shakara

Liberalism has ruined the UK and they are on their path to ruin. Only America is saving them now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:02pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Well
by the end of this decade
we shall revisit this
gbam.

The world would have adjusted to the orange toddlers tantrums and moved forward.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:03pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Please can you provide comparative data?

Average americans do not have access to affordable health care as their counterparts do in the EU.

And I have been clear with my stance..The folks who want to migrate to the US is mainly for higher pay.. nothing more nothing less.
The folks who migrate to the UK is for what? You just proved his point. People will go to the UK because it is easier, but given the option, they will always choose the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:04pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Before its finished for US, Europe will already become Syria

Trump is not appealing to anyone, even EU people wished they had a leader with a spine

See how they all fold in his presence

NATO members are now forced to pay 5% of their GDP as defence budget, that is the power of Trump
Trump doesnt have a spine.

He's rather a childish bully.

A grifter and a swindler per excellent..

The EU does not wish to have a leader like Trump with a long list of immoral antecedents.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:05pm On Oct 07, 2025
benalvino3:
The folks who migrate to the UK is for what? You just proved his point. People will go to the UK because it is easier, but given the option, they will always choose the US.
we are talking about EU as a whole..not only UK.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:05pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
gbam.

The world would have adjusted to the orange toddlers tantrums and moved forward.
Why did they adjust and not resist and insist to show their power

Trump just showed how spineless the UK and EU is. Everything Trump wants they do, when Trump says Jump they answer how High

That is how liberalism ruined them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:06pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Absolutely, The majority of the comments are lamenting about how UK has gone to shiitt, some even asking for Trump or JD Vance to come help them
There are some ïgnorant racîst fuqs like Tommy Robinson in UK, but you'd be wise not to assume they are the majority.

Dump and jdvance are like jokers here, and would not ever win an election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:07pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Trump doesnt have a spine.

He's rather a childish bully.

A grifter and a swindler per excellent..

The EU does not wish to have a leader like Trump with a long list of immoral antecedents.
Yet EU are bending the knee at every stop

whether its rolling out their military forces to welcome him, or to agree to everything Trump wants with tariff or bring plates to beg for aids for war in their country
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:08pm On Oct 07, 2025
benalvino3:
Child molestation can be found on any spectrum but it is more so on the leftist side of the spectrum.

You said you love trump but you unrighteousness call him a child molester. You don't have any basis for your claim. You are focus only on Trump, a guy you claimed to love 😂
Oya answer. What is the barometer that the right wing folks are using?

Racism? Misogyny? Xenophobia? Hatred for the poor?

Lets discuss please. Show me that moral compass that the right folks are working with..

And to add.. is Trump not a lover and a contributor to child molestation? Himself and his party are doing all it takes for the Epstein saga to just go away.

Fantastic neighbor he is..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:08pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Absolutely, The majority of the comments are lamenting about how UK has gone to shiitt, some even asking for Trump or JD Vance to come help them
That's what Budaatum knows how to do: accuse you of lying.

I stated that Kier is the worst Prime Minister of all time, and he quickly shared an article from years ago. When presented with current polls and public sentiment, he argued that we should not trust the polls.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On Oct 07, 2025
budaatum:
There are some ïgnorant racîst fuqs like Tommy Robinson in UK, but you'd be wise not to assume they are the majority.

Dump and jdvance are like jokers here, and would not ever win an election.
Elections have consequences, voting spineless men like Starmer is why UK are in a dump, like Macron is why France is garbage now

That is why your top earners who create the economy are fleeing to where they are appreciated
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:10pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Yet EU are bending the knee at every stop

whether its rolling out their military forces to welcome him, or to agree to everything Trump wants with tariff or bring plates to beg for aids for war in their country
Not even a sensible team with integrity, in a top firm would accept Trump as their line manager.

You wouldn't work with Trump as your line manager in the office or business you work in today.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
They are the business owners who create jobs and when they leave the whole country becomes poorer and just a race to who is th poorest

The millionaires are going to where their success is celebrated and not punished

For the same effort in US you get rewarded more
You must think everyone worships millionaires like you do.

Millionaires are not the only ones who create jobs. An immigrant who arrives in UK and opens a shop and hires people to help sell immigrant stuff creates jobs too. As does the citizen who is not a millionaire but hires staff to assist.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Elections have consequences, voting spineless men like Starmer is why UK are in a dump, like Macron is why France is garbage now

That is why your top earners who create the economy are fleeing to where they are appreciated
Rent seeking twaats are who you are calling those who "create" the economy ?

Lmao
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Oya answer. What is the barometer that the right wing folks are using?

Racism? Misogyny? Xenophobia? Hatred for the poor?

Lets discuss please. Show me that moral compass that the right folks are working with..
Asking for legal migration is not xenophobic.
There are racists on both sides. More on the left, once you don't agree with them you will see it and the media will turn a blind eye to your abuse. Ask Larry elder, winsome Sears or Ben Carson. Just to name a few.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2025
benalvino3:
That's what Budaatum knows how to do: accuse you of lying.

I stated that Kier is the worst Prime Minister of all time, and he quickly shared an article from years ago. When presented with current polls and public sentiment, he argued that we should not trust the polls.
You canlie with your mouth or post but your feet wont lie, See the way their millionaires are fleeing should tell you

when you see millionaires fleeing an economy, That is the canary in a coalmine situation. These millionaires have the resources to predict the economic future and also they have the resources to move when they want to unlike the poor people even if they want to they probably dont have such leeway and resources to move
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:13pm On Oct 07, 2025
benalvino3:
Asking for legal migration is not xenophobic.
There are racists on both sides. More on the left, once you don't agree with them you will see it and the media will turn a blind eye to your abuse. Ask Larry elder, winsome Sears or Ben Carson. Just to name a few.
Racially profiling people is.

Racially arresting or detaining folks, assuming they are illegal based on their race or color is racist and xenophobic..

Thats the matter here.. and it's happening in real time..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:14pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
You canlie with your mouth or post but your feet wont lie, See the way their millionaires are fleeing should tell you

when you see millionaires fleeing an economy, That is the canary in a coalmine situation. These millionaires have the resources to predict the economic future and also they have the resources to move when they want to unlike the poor people even if they want to they probably dont have such leeway and resources to move
You just have to look at the top companies in the world and ask yourself what is Europe doing. Every major stuff is from the US and China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:14pm On Oct 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Rent seeking twaats are who you are calling those who "create" the economy ?

Lmao
These above are signs of an economy going to shitt, when the owners of capital take it elsewhere. These are your tax paying base who pay the highest taxes fleeing with their money.

To continue getting the same amount of taxes, they will have to increase taxes on the poorer ones. Which means more impoverishment
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 3:15pm On Oct 07, 2025
budaatum:
There are some ïgnorant racîst fuqs like Tommy Robinson in UK, but you'd be wise not to assume they are the majority.

Dump and jdvance are like jokers here, and would not ever win an election.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/london-unite-the-kingdom-rally-organized-by-far-right-activist-tommy-robinson/
https://globalnews.ca/news/11418073/far-right-tommy-robinson-unite-the-kingdom-rally-uk/

There must be a lot of "racist fuqs" across the pond to attract hundreds of thousands of rally goers - to the extent even lilly livered Starmer was concerned.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:15pm On Oct 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Elections have consequences, voting spineless men like Starmer is why UK are in a dump, like Macron is why France is garbage now

That is why your top earners who create the economy are fleeing to where they are appreciated
Consequences like dump in USA?

Fact is, UK citizens voted for Starmer and not for dump type politicians, and that says a lot about our intellect.
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