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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:12am On Oct 08, 2025
IbeOkehie:
You're correct. Anyone who has been self employed or paid health insurance premiums out of their own pocket should know this. Before Obama Care, premiums were somewhat affordable, but prices increased astronomically when it was implemented. It would be informative if anyone who has paid out of pocket premiums could tell the prices.

Obama Care is a terrible scheme, but healthcare is a terrible market and moral problem. It's the one thing socialists can justifiably hold onto to extract money from hard working people.

Good Luck to Nigeria.
Overall it isn't a terrible scheme..

The act can be further tweaked or modified to make it better. But to say it is a terrible scheme in its entirety is false.

Oya make ona bring a better one na..no way!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 11:16am On Oct 08, 2025
bayelsaowei:
The nigerian Force does not kill and maim innocent women and children in tens of thousands..

The IDF has done that.. including raping women too..

So how are they different from Hamas..

Or you think their killing and raping is better than that perpetuated by Hamas?

You think that's?
Hamas has genocidal intentions and IDF is on a "don't ever try rubbish again!!!" Mission.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:51am On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
Jack Smith and FBI were tracking 8 Republican Senators phone calls during his investigation. Whom they called and their respective locations.
The affected senators were

Josh Hawley (Missouri)
Lindsey Graham (South Carolina)
Dan Sullivan (Alaska)
Marsha Blackburn (Tennessee)
Ron Johnson (Wisconsin)
Cynthia Lummis (Wyoming)
Bill Hagerty (Tennessee)
Tommy Tuberville (Alabama)

Per Grassely release.
The weasels Cris Wray and Merrick Garland must have signed off on FBI targeting the Senators.
The FBI agents who participated in this illegal spying of Republicans have been fired.
...has already terminated employees and abolished the CR-15 squad just one day after it was revealed that several Republicans' private communications and phone calls had been tracked... An investigation has also been launched .
Good riddance. Democrats thought Trump would be jailed for life , they were gathering dirt on every other potential Republican challenger.
That's why I say there is a God in Heaven.
Budaatum.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:04pm On Oct 08, 2025
bayelsaowei:
who pays for the tax breaks given to billionaires and soon to be trillionaires, at the expense of the general public?

Something must pay for something.. every body has got to contribute fairly and squarely.

It now depends on what a nations priority is. Health care shouldn't be negotiated at any cost. Its peoples lives we are talking about.. I expect pro-lifers to understand these basics of being pro-life..

I ask you again.

Won't you and your family members both home and abroad prefer to benefit from affordable health care?
I believe the design of Obamacare was to win a permanent democrat voting block. Among other social entitlements and schemes pushed by democrats
Convince me otherwise is my challenge.
WAPO waited for 15 years to say Obamacare was unaffordable.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:05pm On Oct 08, 2025
kentebemoney:
Hamas has genocidal intentions and IDF is on a "don't ever try rubbish again!!!" Mission.
selective reasoning.

They are both on the same mission.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 12:20pm On Oct 08, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Overall it isn't a terrible scheme..

The act can be further tweaked or modified to make it better. But to say it is a terrible scheme in its entirety is false.

Oya make ona bring a better one na..no way!!!
Yes it is and anyone who has had to deal with the consequences...and thought them through...would agree. The shocking price of self insurance is a good example.

What about providers? Here's a REAL LIFE, first hand example. One of the requirements of Obama Care when it started was that if a patient went to a hospital for treatment and is admitted and discharged and is readmitted for the same problem within 30 days, the hospital lost all payments associated with that diagnosis. Emergency care was an exception.

How did hospitals respond? They immediately expanded their Emergency Rooms. Regular wards were put under the Emergency Dept. Emergency Department prices are much more expensive for everyone.

By the way, this Emergency Care is the same way ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS tend to get access to government funded healthcare. California has the largest population of illegal immigrants. Where other states spend 5% of their Medicaid budgets on Emergency Care for such people, California spends 50%....I forget the exact number but it's over 50%.

Healthcare is a socialists dream. The MORAL QUANDRIES ENABLE government theft from hard workers. There's no solution.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:22pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
If you feel inferior to others That's on you
Amazing that you noticed. This is his other moniker.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5135#135489487

And this was to his same kick.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5373#136808030
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:30pm On Oct 08, 2025
kentebemoney:
Hamas has genocidal intentions and IDF is on a "don't ever try rubbish again!!!" Mission.
Israel is on a grab all the land mission, and that involves the extermination of all Gazans and West Bankans and Palestinians.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/200205_land_grab

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_expropriation_in_the_West_Bank
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:33pm On Oct 08, 2025
budaatum:
Amazing that you noticed. This is his other moniker.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5135#135489487

And this was to his same kick.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5373#136808030
It's a pity you get your news from. BBC. Limiting the extent of your reasoning .

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:39pm On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
It's a pity you get your news from. BBC. Limiting the extent of your reasoning .
You know very well I get my entertainment from fox, and newsmaxx, and OANN and infowars before it got taken off air, et all, too.

Lots of non-whites there?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 12:54pm On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
It's a pity you get your news from. BBC. Limiting the extent of your reasoning .
That guy you quoted is another self hating Russian cos playing as British because of his white skin

Yes when you go to areas in Birmingham
You don't see white ppl

But the question then becomes....

SO WHAT?

There are enclaves esp in Frenxh speaking african countries where ALL you see are white ppl

Heck, I hear its even similar in Bonny Island where its expatriate dominated

Dubai have entire districts where ALL you see are European and African ppl with no single native Emirati

So whats the big deal ?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:18pm On Oct 08, 2025
bayelsaowei:
if and what not...

What makes the IDF any different from Hamas?

What makes one killer or rapist or child destroyer different from another?
IDF has the ammunition and firepower to wipe out Gaza and they do not. They actually warn civilians

Does Hamas warn civilians before they behead children
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
bayelsaowei:
And the richest country in the whole world is shying away from this? But same country is willing to invest in mulitpiles in senseless military spending, over the health and livelihood of its citizens.

Its the reason why life expectancy is lower in the US than In the EU..
The richest country in the world doesnt pluck money from trees, There is nothing free in this world for you to get free healthcare either the doctors will be working for free or someone else is paying for it

That military spending is why those European countries are not speaking Russia now. They would be enjoying their free Healthcare while being overrun by Russia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:20pm On Oct 08, 2025
budaatum:
You know very well I get my entertainment from fox, and newsmaxx, and OANN and infowars before it got taken off air, et all, too.

Lots of non-whites there?
Liar, your best source is babylonbee.com
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:22pm On Oct 08, 2025
Obama Care or as it is known, the ACA is not a failure. It provided millions of people with affordable health care and provides no money for undocumented residents.
Pls do not let any liars tell you otherwise.
Once someone has shown you that they have no qualms about lying , believing them any further is a deliberate risk on your part.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:23pm On Oct 08, 2025
bayelsaowei:
who pays for the tax breaks given to billionaires and soon to be trillionaires, at the expense of the general public?

Something must pay for something.. every body has got to contribute fairly and squarely.

It now depends on what a nations priority is. Health care shouldn't be negotiated at any cost. Its peoples lives we are talking about.. I expect pro-lifers to understand these basics of being pro-life..

I ask you again.

Won't you and your family members both home and abroad prefer to benefit from affordable health care?
How is it affordable?

Is it by asking doctors to charge less for their services or by asking someone else to pay for your Healthcare bill
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:24pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
That's a very "mumuish" way of thinking
And its a very common way of thinking among Nigerians

Again, what makes me different from a British immigrant who moved abroad

We've got commensurate education, commensurate professional experience and exposure

They hold their head high
I hold mine high

So....
Whats the problem?


BTW i am so glad that Zohran is on course to win the Mayoral elections in New York
He has a bright future and is exactly what that city needs
The problem is that you’re black. The racist white people and their black kuuuns are convinced black means less than. You can’t convince them otherwise.

Even when you have same or higher qualifications, any position you occupy must be due to DEI.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:55pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So the British people who are scattered the four corners of the world, what makes their case diffeent from mine ?

They migrated
I migrated too
They are educated
I am educated too

You see why I say you have low racial self esteem
They are working in thr middle east, south east Asia and even in cape town

I am rooted in Britain and sometimes dip into continental Europe

We are peers as far as im concerned

If you feel inferior to others That's on you
You don't get it.
When they scattered and reached Nigeria, they colonized it. It was both negative and positive for the people they colonized, your forefathers.

You may cry as much as you want but that fact you cannot escape.

Of course, you are peers. It's you guys that cry racism all the time and make it look like you don't have racist tendencies in you. Some of us know that humans will be humans, we accept that some humans will like animals more than their parents.

There are humans that have not been colonized today, those guys still haven't figured out what a paddle is. They figured out a small canoe, but they don't know how to fully use it. They still run around naked with bows and arrows.

I think it will be good to colonize them, teach them English or other languages, and modern culture. Abi you think that is bad?

If you ever find yourself on their island, you will be killed immediately.

So for me, I don't see it as an insult when you guys say our minds are still colonized. Our forefathers were colonized; they took the good things they learned and passed them down.
Yes, they suffered but today, we are enjoying the fruits of that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 1:58pm On Oct 08, 2025
raumdeuter:
The richest country in the world doesnt pluck money from trees, There is nothing free in this world for you to get free healthcare either the doctors will be working for free or someone else is paying for it

That military spending is why those European countries are not speaking Russia now. They would be enjoying their free Healthcare while being overrun by Russia
For the second time
The bolded IS NOT TRUE
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 1:59pm On Oct 08, 2025
cococandy:
The problem is that you’re black. The racist white people and their black kuuuns are convinced black means less than. You can’t convince them otherwise.

Even when you have same or higher qualifications, any position you occupy must be due to DEI.
Read the post after this post
That describes what you talking about
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:00pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
You don't get it.
When they scattered and reached Nigeria, they colonized it. It was both negative and positive for the people they colonized, your forefathers.

You may cry as much as you want but that fact you cannot escape.

Of course, you are peers. It's you guys that cry racism all the time and make it look like you don't have racist tendencies in you. Some of us know that humans will be humans, we accept that some humans will like animals more than their parents.

There are humans that have not been colonized today, those guys still haven't figured out what a paddle is. They figured out a small canoe, but they don't know how to fully use it. They still run around naked with bows and arrows.

I think it will be good to colonize them, teach them English or other languages, and modern culture. Abi you think that is bad?

If you ever find yourself on their island, you will be killed immediately.

So for me, I don't see it as an insult when you guys say our minds are still colonized. Our forefathers were colonized; they took the good things they learned and passed them down.
Yes, they suffered but today, we are enjoying the fruits of that.
undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:02pm On Oct 08, 2025
raumdeuter:
How is it affordable?

Is it by asking doctors to charge less for their services or by asking someone else to pay for your Healthcare bill
t's affordable because the bill is named Affordable,Care Act.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:03pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
For the second time
The bolded IS NOT TRUE
You can deny it all you want while those who matter and lead EU are screaming and begging

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:04pm On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
t's affordable because the bill is named Affordable,Care Act.
For something to be affordable or free that means either those supplying it are choosing to lower their prices or someone else is paying for it

So which one is it?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:04pm On Oct 08, 2025
Texas national guard seen arriving in Chicago.
The governor of Chicago did not request any of this.
It’s a violation of the sovereignty of Chicago.

Where are the states’ rights hypocrites now?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:05pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Read the post after this post
That describes what you talking about
He’s a mentally conquered lil man
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:06pm On Oct 08, 2025
raumdeuter:
You can deny it all you want while those who matter and lead EU are screaming and begging
So the opinion of one diplomat is akin to Russia capability of attacking Europe
lmaoo
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:06pm On Oct 08, 2025
cococandy:
Texas national guard seen arriving in Chicago.
The governor of Chicago did not request any of this.
It’s a violation of the sovereignty of Chicago.

Where are the states’ rights hypocrites now?
All Dump wants is chaos
That's about it
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:07pm On Oct 08, 2025
cococandy:
He’s a mentally conquered lil man
unfortunately
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:07pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
undecided
You can't argue with that.

Me: Colonialism is both good and bad
You:?
Me: our forefathers learn from it, although they suffered
You:?
Me: We are enjoying the fruits of the struggle and suffering
You:?

The way you behave, the language you speak are all from the people who colonized your forefathers. You prefer the country of the people who colonized your forefathers.

Our forefathers, after learning from their colonizers, used what they learnt and asked for self-governance. This happened without a single shot being fired. The ones they educated ask for self governance using they education they acquired from their colonizers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 2:11pm On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
t's affordable because the bill is named Affordable,Care Act.
Don't forget the Inflation Reduction Act that printed and spent a lot of money and supercharged Inflation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko?si=LcA0znDgMW8Zxt9p

Good Luck to Nigerians
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