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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So the opinion of one diplomat is akin to Russia capability of attacking Europe
lmaoo
That diplomat matters in the scheme of things than you an ordinary internet poster. There is a reason why they dont make you the diplomat because you dont see how things really are

The EU diplomat is telling you how dependent they are on the US. Zelenky the man at the war front comes to US almost weekly to beg for support

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:13pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
All Dump wants is chaos
That's about it
Yes he wants to provoke a reaction so he can declare martial law. If he’s not careful, that’s what will consume him. This vendetta he has against people who don’t like him will most likely be his undoing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:13pm On Oct 08, 2025
raumdeuter:
That diplomat matters in the scheme of things than you an ordinary internet poster. There is a reason why they dont make you the diplomat because you dont see how things really are

The EU diplomat is telling you how dependent they are on the US. Zelenky the man at the war front comes to US almost weekly to beg for support
He is dealing with too much facts, he will soon say he is leaving the thread.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:15pm On Oct 08, 2025
Bayelsaowei you will won't answer Why you want the IDF to solve the bokoharam problem in this country if they are the same as Hamas.

I am happy that you don't believe the crap you say.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:19pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So the opinion of one diplomat is akin to Russia capability of attacking Europe
lmaoo
Another opinion from NATO Generals. You should wake up every morning and thank the great US for not being a Russian colony today or a German colony since 1945

Can Europe do it alone? The answer, at least for now, is no. There are simply too many areas — including aerial refueling, air transport, and intelligence and surveillance capabilities — where it is lacking or under-resourced. That should change as Europe aims a firehose of money at rearmament, but it will take time.

The last time Europe faced this dilemma was after World War II. It was far from clear in 1945-46 that the US would be willing to keep troops in Europe, any more than it had after World War I. Britain, the only military power in Western Europe in those years, worked intensively with France and others to agree on a system that could fight the Soviet Union.

The result was the 1948 Brussels Treaty between the UK, France, and the Benelux countries, which included an unambiguous commitment to mutual defense. West Germany and Italy joined later.

Now that Vladimir Putin may already be eyeing his next incursion west, Europe once again faces a threat from an expansionist and imperialist Kremlin.

If Trump really does withdraw from Europe, especially if it happens quickly, the continent would face serious difficulties compensating for the loss, according to Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Gordon “Skip” Davis, CEPA Senior Fellow and former deputy assistant Secretary General at NATO. “The US is needed for the theater-level expertise in running high-intensity combat at scale,” he said. “That will be one of the most difficult aspects for Europe to ever make up for in trying to deter and defend against Russian aggression.

The point was underlined by James Fennell, a security expert and former Royal Navy officer. He has pointed out that the UK, like most European countries, had simply subcontracted its grand strategy to others. “Strategic thinking, such that it was, moved to NATO in Brussels, and ultimately to the Pentagon,” he wrote. This will need to return to Europe,

https://cepa.org/article/europe-very-well-alone/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
He is dealing with too much facts, he will soon say he is leaving the thread.
Or block and complain about mental health or spazz out like snowflake Felicia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:30pm On Oct 08, 2025
raumdeuter:
Or block and complain about mental health or spazz out like snowflake Felicia
Remember when IjeBos first appeared on this thread, he wanted those of us who live in Nigeria to see him as an authority because he lives in the US 😂

This same person will complain nonstop about white people even when he spends 2 minutes in the UK.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:30pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
You can't argue with that.

Me: Colonialism is both good and bad
You:?
Me: our forefathers learn from it, although they suffered
You:?
Me: We are enjoying the fruits of the struggle and suffering
You:?

The way you behave, the language you speak are all from the people who colonized your forefathers. You prefer the country of the people who colonized your forefathers.

Our forefathers, after learning from their colonizers, used what they learnt and asked for self-governance. This happened without a single shot being fired. The ones they educated ask for self governance using they education they acquired from their colonizers.
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:34pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
Yes, because it actually brought good too

I gave you an example of the humans on Sentinel Island. They have not been colonized, and they have not seen a bicycle before. They have not invented a paddle, they still run around naked and their population is dying out because they are not evolving.

Will colonization bring good to them?
They may be sitting on tonnes of natural resources they don't know exist or cannot use.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:35pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
He is dealing with too much facts, he will soon say he is leaving the thread.
These are what you lot call facts ?
Lmaooo
NATO was meant to be a partnership
An abrupt divorce would affect both sides

America benefits so much from the bases in Europe, and we both know how handicapped USA will be operations wise if all European countries expel them from their bases

USA is THE ONLY country that triggered the article 5 clause of NATO, and Europe delivered

How will the USA have coped without the European forces by their side?

All these chest thumping and bravado is what is characteristic of low level thinking

Even at that
Now that the lessons have been learnt that all it takes is for one airhead to upend decades of a mutually beneficial arrangement, Europe is now reaming
Its now every man for himself

but you olodinhos are still on the USA is boss and others are kissing the ring bs
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 2:37pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
Yes, because it actually brought good too

I gave you an example of the humans on Sentinel Island. They have not been colonized, and they have not seen a bicycle before. They have not invented a paddle, they still run around naked and their population is dying out because they are not evolving.

Will colonization bring good to them?
They may be sitting on tonnes of natural resources they don't know exist or cannot use.
So what business is it of other groups IF there are resources beneath their feet.

How they are living is fine by them
They did not complain to anybody

Its all about greed that fuels colonialism, not "helping" local populations
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:37pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
These are what you lot call facts ?
Lmaooo
NATO was meant to be a partnership
An abrupt divorce would affect both sides

America benefits so much from the bases in Europe, and we both know how handicapped USA will be operations wise if all European countries expel them from their bases

USA is THE ONLY country that triggered the article 5 clause of NATO, and Europe delivered

How will the USA have coped without the European forces by their side?

All these chest thumping and bravado is what is characteristic of low level thinking

Even at that
Now that the lessons have been learnt that all it takes is for one airhead to upend decades of a mutually beneficial arrangement, Europe is now reaming
Its now every man for himself

but you olodinhos are still on the USA is boss and others are kissing the ring bs
It won't affect US. They have more soldiers and equipments than all NATO nations combined
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:40pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So what business is it of other groups IF there are resources beneath their feet.

How they are living is fine by them
They did not complain to anybody

Its all about greed that fuels colonialism, not "helping" local populations
They are dying out 😂
They have been here for centuries, their populations has never gone above 10k, only a few hundreds are alive today.

They need colonization. If you think colonization does not bring good, you are closed-minded

Cococandy will say Millionaire and the people she works for are greedy and evil, yet she works for them because how will she pay her rent?

So good can come from colonialism. Nigeria is a good example of that.

You are just complaining for the sake of it, because to you, White Man BAD
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:41pm On Oct 08, 2025
You’re finding out in real time why I blocked them so they don’t have the satisfaction of quoting me with some low IQ level nonsense.

Unfortunately I can still see the asinine posts when I got to post a comment but at least they can’t address me directly with some nuisance air headed BS.

They’ll tell you that if you don’t stick around to validate their 60 IQ delusions, you’re running from “the truth”.

RodgersAkpafu:
These are what you lot call facts ?
Lmaooo. All these chest thumping and bravado is what is characteristic of low level thinking

but you olodinhos are still on the USA is boss and others are kissing the ring bs
RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:50pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
It should be clear to you who they are at this point.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:52pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
Remember when IjeBos first appeared on this thread, he wanted those of us who live in Nigeria to see him as an authority because he lives in the US 😂

This same person will complain nonstop about white people even when he spends 2 minutes in the UK.
Oldie but goodie.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:58pm On Oct 08, 2025
He says it as it is.
During the election period, black Americans will be at the forefront 😂

https://fxtwitter.com/TheThe1776/status/1975690562641801676

Since they have a colonized mindset like IjeBos, they are going to vote left always.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:59pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
Colonialism did bring good. Look at Singapore , Australia , America for example.
Ethiopia was never colonized and they are actually developing rapidly .
Colonialism was good in a bad way to most African countries.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:03pm On Oct 08, 2025
basilico:
Colonialism did bring good. Look at Singapore , Australia , America for example.
Ethiopia was never colonized and they are actually developing rapidly .
Colonialism was good in a bad way to most African countries.
He has a linear mindset. He has been taught white man bad so everything they did is all bad.

I told him it has both positive and negative part, but since why man bad, its all negative.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:09pm On Oct 08, 2025
IjeBos:
It should be clear to you who they are at this point.
Damn
This is actually worrisome to say the very least
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:10pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
He says it as it is.
During the election period, black Americans will be at the forefront 😂

https://fxtwitter.com/TheThe1776/status/1975690562641801676

Since they have a colonized mindset like IjeBos, they are going to vote left always.
Colonized mindset indeed.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:10pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
He has a linear mindset. He has been taught white man bad so everything they did is all bad.

I told him it has both positive and negative part, but since why man bad, its all negative.
How is calling out the. evils of colonialism equal to "White Man Bad"?

What are you even saying ?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:11pm On Oct 08, 2025
benalvino3:
He says it as it is.
During the election period, black Americans will be at the forefront 😂

https://fxtwitter.com/TheThe1776/status/1975690562641801676

Since they have a colonized mindset like IjeBos, they are going to vote left always.
This one does not know what he is talking about
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:15pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
How is calling out the. evils of colonialism equal to "White Man Bad"?

What are you even saying ?
Because you are not seeing the good that came out of it.

Also, colonialism is attributed to white people only for the fibble minds.

You guys wake up in the morning and say:
All the white man bad,
Orange man bad

Before you brush your teeth
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:15pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Damn
This is actually worrisome to say the very least
This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of some of the nonsense they spew here.
It's like arguing with a homeless drunk mentally ill person about what it's like to currently own a home.

I'm proudly Nigerian.
So, I feel profound sadness for them and then disgust at them, that they are so broken, they hate who they are.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:18pm On Oct 08, 2025
bemeruca:
Because you are not seeing the good that came out of it.

Also, colonialism is attributed to white people only for the fibble minds.

You guys wake up in the morning and say:
All the white man bad,
Orange man bad

Before you brush your teeth
Colonialism is NOT done with the intent of offering ANY good to the colonised

Any supposed good that came from it is inspite of it, not as a result of it

And even though the crafters of colonialists policy were a small pool of degenerate white men, the vast majority of white people have no input in it, and are very much pawns in the system as rhe rest of us

It's common sense
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:24pm On Oct 08, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

undecided
Like how much must one suffer in lack of self-worth to claim that there's good in colonialism? Men who have completely lost identity, and are completely subservient to the white man's world view.

This is how easily mean can be tricked into a cult. This is how black men become MAGA sheep.

Nuccccas don completely lost they da.mn minds.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:25pm On Oct 08, 2025
Imagine speaking of the good that came from colonialism and slavery like there’s no other reality in which white people could’ve traded with our ancestors.

We had/have immense resources, art and raw materials that could’ve been mutual exchanged for some of their newer technology that we didn’t have at the time.

Imagine thinking us learning English is a sign of development. When they could’ve have also learned our language just as we learned theirs in order for trade to go smoothly.

The kind men who currently think some “good came from it” were the exact kind of men who traded their sons and nephews for shotguns and whisky because money first obviously. And if you’re not capital minded at the cost of everything else, then you are playing a victim. SMH.


ijebosb:
This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of some of the nonsense they spew here.
It's like arguing with a homeless drunk mentally ill person about what it's like to currently own a home.

I'm proudly Nigerian.
So, I feel profound sadness for them and then disgust at them, that they are so broken, they hate who they are.
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