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ono:
First buda, I hope you are not the one who banned me last time I tried to respond to your posts.

Now, I am not the one who woke up one morning, communicated in English, dressed in clothes that are alien to my culture and tradition - and suddenly felt bad and ungrateful about everything I have received from my "colonisers"! It was you and your likes on this board.

I am grateful to them for what we have gained from them - medicines, Isaac Newton with his breakthrough Calculus and mechanics, nuclear physics, engineering, etc etc. This is real progress we can all see and there is no denying that it came from them.

Left to you and your likes, we should be consulting Ifa

You know very well I hate liars and people who can't comprehend what they read.

Read what that b has been quoting I wrote:

budaatum:
I never said colonisation was all bad. It is my opinion that if you had not been colonised, you'd still be selling yourselves and killing twins and believe the spirits in the forest are killing you.

My argument is, you had no choice in being colonised because you were less knowledgeable than those who colonised you, and along with that colonisation was your enslavement, which you think was good for you.

budaatum:
One should yap against colonialism in one's uncolonized language, is my preferred position, and I am thankful for my proficiency in the language of the coloniser and the books it empowers me to be able to read .

I can't ban anyone. Seun has not given me such powers.

raumdeuter:
This was a post I typed about the liberal mindset before spamboot hit me

Its how they roll, they find a cause where their virtue signal can shine on. You don't see yourself as a victim, they cry, you don't see them as a victim they cry.

You acknowledge there are racists in the world and its human nature. Focus on people who love and care for you, they still cry.

IbeOkehie:
My parents told me stories of the endemic corruption in those Nigerian Scholarship Boards.

In the book "No Longer At Ease" by Achebe, the protagonist Obi Okonkwo was on a Scholarship Board and took a bribe to give an award.

Subsidies ARE corruption and ultimately infringe on human freedom and destroy economic productivity. The USA is the best country on earth precisely because it's based on LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

Government should be restricted to ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CLEARLY impossible for individuals to undertake. The Igbo of Nigeria generally didn't have free education yet attained some of the highest literacy and educational qualifications in Nigeria. Government is always a PROBLEM, not a solution to anything.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Fight corruption itself rather than kill initiatives that are good. Scholarships aren't bad. Corruption is what is bad.. deal with corruption..

Killing or ending scholarships would be like throwing the baby and bath water together.

We all have benefited from one form of scholarship or the other.. and we were happy. you think someone who's parents had nothing but benefited from government sponsored scholarships would be saying the same thing your saying ?

I cant believe i am arguing these things with folks who may not be earning more than a million dollar a year.

Its shocking

raumdeuter:
Public education typically goes to children and they are free because the children cannot work to provide education for themselves, Once they become Adults, then Universities and colleges stop being free

Just like there is healthcare for poor children

You do know that healthcare is for the sick who can not work, right?

What good is free "healthcare for poor children", but not for their poor sick parents?

Would feeding those children not cost you more when their sick parents die?

budaatum:
You know very well I hate liars and people who can't comprehend what they read.

Read what that b has been quoting I wrote:





I can't ban anyone. Seun has not given me such powers.

That's the colonized mindset we are talking about. You are thankful for the language of the colonizers. It helps you read their books.

Since it's all bad why not avoid it?

Yes, we had no choice which is the struggle and suffering I am referring to when I said our forefathers suffered. But there were benefits too.

You cannot deny this, Infact you agreed there were benefits. You read the books. You communicate easily with people from different parts of the globe

budaatum:
You know very well I hate liars and people who can't comprehend what they read.

Read what that b has been quoting I wrote:

I can't ban anyone. Seun has not given me such powers.

....and along with that colonisation was your enslavement, which you think was good for you.

That's from you. What do you mean by this? If the conditions were reversed, and you are the ones to colonise the Whites, will you hesitate one bit, when you know it's to your advantage? Heck we should be thankful these guys didn't think of wiping out our forbears! It's not a sign of cowardice or weakness to acquiesce to superior force or knowledge. That's what our forbears did - and we are here today because of that.

budaatum:
You do know that healthcare is for the sick who can not work, right?

What good is free "healthcare for poor children", but not for their poor sick parents?

Would feeding those children not cost you more when their sick parents die?

I dont want to be responsible for another adult. If I need more dependents I will have more children

benalvino3:
That's the colonized mindset we are talking about. You are thankful for the language of the colonizers. It helps you read their books.

Since it's all bad why not avoid it?

Yes, we had no choice which is the struggle and suffering I am referring to when I said our forefathers suffered. But there were benefits too.

You cannot deny this, Infact you agreed there were benefits. You read the books. You communicate easily with people from different parts of the globe

Hopefully you see why I avoid you like you are the plague when you read I said there were benefits, yet still ask, "Since it's all bad why not avoid it?"

Colonisation, like all things, had both good and bad consequences. Slavery, which accompanied it was good for the coloniser and bad for the colonised, and many would in fact claim colonisation's contribution to creating Nigeria is a bad thing they've been trying to destroy ever since. But that's far too complex for your black and white reasoning to get your head around I guess.

benalvino3:
That's the colonized mindset we are talking about. You are thankful for the language of the colonizers. It helps you read their books.

Since it's all bad why not avoid it?

Africa founding presidents adopted the big man syndrome, they became irreversibly corrupt . The westerners took advantage of their greed to maintain us in a neo. colonial state. Many countries are still dependent on their first colonial masters The french were the worst in terns of neo colonialism where their Central Bank holds sway on fiscal matters till today

Much of Africa woes belongs to post colonial leadership . As is wont the leaders shift blame from themselves to the colonizers. Cameroon presidents daughter is tired of her 90 something dad wanting another term.
The west has tried to help Africa in terns of orderly and democratic changing of power ,but they have also instigated coups and counter coups throughout post independence .period.

raumdeuter:
I dont want to be responsible for another adult. If I need more dependents I will have more children

Most progressive societies do not give you that option, so you might want to consider buying some island in the middle of nowhere and live there.

And for your information, you are not being asked to "be responsible for another adult". You are compelled to be responsible for your community.

budaatum:
America seems more, me myself and I.

Collective good sounds communistic, to some, especially to these Nigerians who are not so used to paying tax.

Im glad MOST Britons dont think like this
Its the few misled ones moving with Americans that think this way

ono:
....and along with that colonisation was your enslavement, which you think was good for you.

That's from you. What do you mean by this?

The person I responded to thinks slavery was good for him.

I disagree!

budaatum:
Hopefully you see why I avoid you like you are the plague when you read I said there were benefits, yet still ask, "Since it's all bad why not avoid it?"

Colonisation, like all things, had both good and bad consequences. Slavery, which accompanied it was good for the coloniser and bad for the colonised, and many would in fact claim colonisation's contribution to creating Nigeria is a bad thing they've been trying to destroy ever since. But that's far too complex for your black and white reasoning to get your head around I guess.

Tell your friends IjeBos and RodgersAkpafu, I told them you conceded to that. Why are you always sounding like it is all bad.

Ono and I are saying it's bad but also we benefitted which is good at the same time.

I try to set basilico straight on some matters, as well as raumdeuter. It is okay for you guys to see we disagree in somethings.

Trying to say I don't understand what I quoted (your post) is disingenuous.

bayelsaowei:
Fight corruption itself rather than kill initiatives that are good. Scholarships aren't bad. Corruption is what is bad.. deal with corruption..

Killing or ending scholarships would be like throwing the baby and bath water together.

We all have benefited from one form of scholarship or the other.. and we were happy. you think someone who's parents had nothing but benefited from government sponsored scholarships would be saying the same thing your saying ?

I cant believe i am arguing these things with folks who may not be earning more than a million dollar a year.

Its shocking

China that is giving scholarships left and right
Spending tens of billions on scholarships AND subsidies

They are rhe 2nd hottest economy in the world today with undeniable sophistication

How can anyone say subsidies is a bad thing?

Omo mehn
Americans are goners

RodgersAkpafu:
Im glad MOST Britons dont think like this
Its the few misled ones moving with Americans that think this way

The socialism in our capitalism is a residue from "love your neighbours" and our desire not to be seen as hypocrites, unlike the supposed Americans here who don't care about their neighbours.

budaatum:
Most progressive societies do not give you that option, so you might want to consider buying some island in the middle of nowhere and live there.

And for your information, you are not being asked to "be responsible for another adult". You are compelled to be responsible for your community.

Which s why USA is the greatest country on earth. They encourage you to take personal responsibility for your actions and which is why Europe is failing and all the people with resources are fleeing

budaatum:
The person I responded to thinks slavery was good for him.

I disagree!

I was never a slave. You are the one not understanding. How can I say it is good for me?

I said colonisation was good for Nigeria which you agreed. You put slavery to the talk.

RodgersAkpafu:
Im glad MOST Britons dont think like this
Its the few misled ones moving with Americans that think this way

Which is why the British govt are always cap in hand begging America for their defence and even innovations

Why the millionaires are fleeing UK for the poor

RodgersAkpafu:
China that is giving scholarships left and right
Spending tens of billions on scholarships AND subsidies

They are rhe 2nd hottest economy in the world today with undeniable sophistication

How can anyone say subsidies is a bad thing?

Omo mehn
Americans are goners

Chinese people are suffering 😂

Ask yourself why they are running to western countries.

budaatum:
America seems more, me myself and I.

Collective good sounds communistic, to some, especially to these Nigerians who are not so used to paying tax.

Exactly

When you mention something that helps everyone, they start crying about how it is communism

bayelsaowei:
Fight corruption itself rather than kill initiatives that are good. Scholarships aren't bad. Corruption is what is bad.. deal with corruption..

Killing or ending scholarships would be like throwing the baby and bath water together.

We all have benefited from one form of scholarship or the other.. and we were happy. you think someone who's parents had nothing but benefited from government sponsored scholarships would be saying the same thing your saying ?

I cant believe i am arguing these things with folks who may not be earning more than a million dollar a year.

Its shocking

They’re temporarily embarrassed billionaires 🤣🤣🤣
Elon and co have them convinced that they’re one good investment away from being like them. So they support measures that oppress the actual economic class they belong in. Because they believe the problem is from regular people like them not the oligarchs who are the real leeches of American society

RodgersAkpafu:
China that is giving scholarships left and right
Spending tens of billions on scholarships AND subsidies

They are rhe 2nd hottest economy in the world today with undeniable sophistication

How can anyone say subsidies is a bad thing?

Omo mehn
Americans are goners

China is 2nd after who? Will that be UK?

benalvino3:
Chinese people are suffering 😂

Ask yourself why they are running to western countries.

That is the China where govt controls what website you can browse, how many children you can have

Let these liberals migrate to China and practice their wokeness first then you will start hearing excuses

raumdeuter:
That is the China where govt controls what website you can browse, how many children you can have

Let these liberals migrate to China and practice their wokeness first then you will start hearing excuses

Its funny how they think Chinese people are enjoying.

You actually think black people don’t have any inventions to their credit? All you have to do is look it up and not take your information from your white master.

Just off the first search without any deep research, you can find hundreds of inventions by black people. None of these actually include the ones that weren’t credited to the true black inventors due them being property of their white slave masters at the time.

https://holyculture.net/read/artlcle/50-inventions-by-black-people-that-make-your-life-easier/

Literal shame on you weak men.

ono:
First buda, I hope you are not the one who banned me last time I tried to respond to your posts.

Now, I am not the one who woke up one morning, communicated in English, dressed in clothes that are alien to my culture and tradition - and suddenly felt bad and ungrateful about everything I have received from my "colonisers"! It was you and your likes on this board.

I am grateful to them for what we have gained from them - medicines, Isaac Newton with his breakthrough Calculus and mechanics, nuclear physics, engineering, etc etc. This is real progress we can all see and there is no denying that it came from them.

Left to you and your likes, we should be consulting Ifa or some dibia in Awka to know when it's going to rain, or why our crop yields is not good, etc etc.

Funny thing is that your type benefit from what these guys offered and yet you open your loud mouth to complain on end how they are bad and treating you badly!

bayelsaowei:
1) Fight corruption itself rather than kill initiatives that are good. Scholarships aren't bad. Corruption is what is bad.. deal with corruption..

2) Killing or ending scholarships would be like throwing the baby and bath water together.

3) We all have benefited from one form of scholarship or the other.. and we were happy. you think someone who's parents had nothing but benefited from government sponsored scholarships would be saying the same thing your saying ?

4) I cant believe i am arguing these things with folks who may not be earning more than a million dollar a year. Its shocking

1) Corruption enabled by subsidies and welfare can NEVER be eliminated. It's IMPOSSIBLE.

By the way, Baltimore City Schools spend about $20K per student - one of the highest expenditures in the USA - and has some of the worst education outcomes in the country.

Major education corruption scandal in Baltimore.

https://www.google.com/search?q=former+baltimore+mayor+catherine+pugh+book+corruption+scandal&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS837US837&oq=former+baltimore+mayor+catherine+pugh+book+corruption+scandal&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE5NzI1ajBqOagCBrACAfEFbr9p2bYEUFY&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Food Stamp corruption -

https://www.google.com/search?q=food+stamp+corruption+usa&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS837US837&oq=food+stamp+corruption+usa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAtIBCDU5NTNqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Housing Program Corruption

The Mafia was big into housing corruption in New York

https://www.google.com/search?q=mafia+school+windows+scandal+new+york&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS837US837&oq=mafia+school+windows+scandal+new+york&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigAdIBCTExNzc2ajBqOagCALACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=section+8+corruption+in+usa&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS837US837&oq=section+8+corruption+in+usa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigAdIBCTExNzUyajBqOagCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

2) No, it would be an invitation to parents to take responsibility for their children.

* Public subsidized and provided education enables the State of California to allow children to transition their sex and makes it a crime to inform the parents.

* Teachers are terrorized by students because the students know they can't be disciplined in public schools, they do delinquent stuff they wouldn't do in private schools.

* Sweden the darling of USA liberals divides up their education budget and gives each family an equal amount and they get to spend it wherever they want. Over 50% of Swedish families choose PRIVATE schools for their children the same way Elizabeth Warren chose private schools for her kids but she still tries to kill private schooling at every opportunity. Our last Governor Cooper of North Carolina I think vetoed a bill to do the Swedish thing in our state here, but Republicans made it become law. All his kids went to private schools too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xopibfXRIhA

3) Yes, but in the long term ALL government programs, especially those that are NOT naturally the duty of government, degenerate into waste and inefficiency. Over the long term, they NEVER create more or better value than privately owned equivalents.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

ono:
Bros,
1. benalvi, in reference to his post, directed that question to yourself, RogersAkpafu and buda. He has followed your posts (I'm sure historically and current, I daresay I have read some of your comments on this board too) to get to that point and ask that question.

2. The US is a majority White country. See 2020 stats below.

So, again, what are you doing there??

You read my posts and yet cannot point out where I said I hate white people.
If you are following Bemeruca you should ask him to quote me. But by following him you are already lost.
So, you basically made a post premised on lies and distortions.

My point is, this is no different than what you do on a regular basis.
You hear someone say something on Right wing media (usually a lie or distortion) and then you go around repeating it or using it as the basis of your thought processes.

It's ok do your own research and independently think through things so you are and not relying on not bright people and liars to think for you.

benalvino3:
Chinese people are suffering 😂

Ask yourself why they are running to western countries.

There are a lot of Chinese people living in the UK thats for sure

But

China has developed leaps and bounds over a 40 year period
Even USA and Britain did not achieve so much in such short time

As much as I am NOT a fan of the CCP, they have achieved so damn much and evidence full ground

And its not exactly a free country too...
So thats another factor to why they live abroad

IjeBos:
You read my posts and yet cannot point out where I said I hate white people.
If you are following Bemeruca you should ask him to quote me. But by following him you are already lost.
So, you basically made a post premised on lies and distortions.

My point is, this is no different than what you do on a regular basis.
You hear someone say something on Right wing media (usually a lie or distortion) and then you go around repeating it or using it as the basis of your thought processes.

It's ok do your own research and independently think through things so you are and not relying on not bright people and liars to think for you.

Thank you oooo

BTW America is on course to NOT be a white majority country anymore

All these gra gra white racists are doing with ICE will amount to naught
The ship has sailed

RodgersAkpafu:
There are a lot of Chinese people living in the UK thats for sure

But

China has developed leaps and bounds over a 40 year period
Even USA and Britain did not achieve so much in such short time

As much as I am NOT a fan of the CCP, they have achieved so damn much and evidence full ground

And its not exactly a free country too...
So thats another factor to why they live abroad

Yes, but their people still live like crap which is why you find them crossing the border through Mexico just like me.

The CCP is slowly trying to destroy capitalist countries using capitalism

benalvino3:
I was never a slave. You are the one not understanding. How can I say it is good for me?

I said colonisation was good for Nigeria which you agreed. You put slavery to the talk.

You can't separate slavery from the colonisation it came with.

Colonisation was not necessarily good for Nigeria because it involved the theft of millions of Nigerians. Like most things it has both a good and bad sides, depending on the understanding of who is asked.

benalvino3:
Yes, but their people still live like crap which is why you find them crossing the border through Mexico just like me.

The CCP is slowly trying to destroy capitalist countries using capitalism

China is 1.4 billion

It is NOT feasible to raise the living standards of 1.4 billion magically

Even at that
The hundreds and hundreds of millions they have lifted from poverty, and the hundreds millions more to be lifted is very commendable

You cant take that from them
Chinese tourists are big time customers in Europe